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  1. #16159

    Very good point

    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    If you were talking to her on We Chat you could have simply done a video call. It's built right into the app.
    Very good point. Point taken. Good advice. Will think about that next time.

  2. #16158

    Should I stay or should I go?

    I have 3 weeks holiday coming up in SE Asia at the end of October.

    I have an early morning flight that arrives into CGK, but I'm a bit undecided what to do next. I can either stay in Jakarta for a few days or just get the first available flight over to Bali. I've been to Bali many times, but never to Jakarta. Having looked on the internet I'm confused by what's on offer in Jararta and where exactly it is. I've been to most of the other SE Asian countries, and what I prefer is:

    1) decent hotel within walking distance of the action.

    2) strip clubs / go go bars or similar where there is something to see.

    3) clubs where you can take girls out.

    4) not into singing or dancing.

    5) not into clubs where you can talk to the girls but not take them out.

    So am I looking for somewhere around Blok M or somewhere else? I looked to see what was available on line and the agency girls look to be asking for silly money ($200 and up for an hour).

  3. #16157
    Your story prompted my memory that I was in that bar a number of years ago or one very similar in KI.

    The pricing differential is to do with ethnicity. This all goes back to a battle in Bubat Square in 1279 when the Sundanese royalty were raped, pillaged and wiped out women children the whole lot.

    To bring you forward to today, it's common for a Javanese man to marry or keep as a concubine a sundanese woman. But it's almost taboo for a Sundanese man to marry a javanese girl. As a result Javanese girls are seen as being more exclusive or purer.

    My Javanese is fairly poor but I do remember speaking javanese to the girls in the afore mentioned bar and it did seem that all the girls were of Javanese origin. Ironically most were from Lampung as their ancestors had been transmigrants from some smelly village in Central Java and been moved to Southern Sumatra / lampung.

    A typical Javanese girl does tend to be rounder and darker than a Sundanese girl which would normally make you think that Sundanese are more desirable. But that's not how it works when it comes to pricing.


    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    I went into that "new bar" at KI and found one attractive one in the bunch. Was about to head upstairs when MMS told me she was 700 k (this was a year ago). I said "oh no no no, no freelancers. How much is normal girl?" She said they're ALL 700 k here. Stunned, I took a second look around to see what the difference was. The bar looked the same as any KI bar so I don't know why the ladies were charging double the going rate of the other KI's. I left and went to one of the other joints. If anyone can advise why that bar is so special at 700 k (now 750 k). Is it all bb anal or something?

  4. #16156
    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    Dang, those carts look awful shady. I'm seriously concerned that either 1) I'll knock down something narcotic or toxic or 2) It's just wasted my 7 bucks on a placebo. Harmless sugar or saline pill.
    The guys have been selling there for years, they are outside one of the biggest hoorhouses in SE Asia. Their regular customers are local Chinese blokes, men not noted for their gullibility or willingness to pay good money for poor quality goods that they are going to consume themselves (their willingness to sell poor quality goods for other people to consume is a different story.) If the product didn't work the stalls wouldn't be in business long. I buy off "99", no particular reason other than he is the guy I always stop at, I have never had a problem yet with his merchandise. I never buy the overpriced "genuine" stuff in pharmacies (which is probably made in the same factory that produces the knock-off goods).

    Edited to add: He did offer me a free sample of a new product a while back, long, green tablets whose name I can't recall that were sold in a little tin box. I tried them out and found they were pretty useless, no worries, like I say they were given to me free and he wasn't passing them off as Cialis.

  5. #16155
    I was at Mega Ayu's soft opening a few years back and I remember talking to a manager about the place. As I recall, the general idea was that this would have classier, model type ladies supposedly and they would charge a premium over the other KI bars. I only ever sessioned once there, in 2019. The lady was average in all ways including attitude. I don't get it at all. I was there again in June. The ladies seemed older, slightly heavier and had more attitude than the other KI bars. I hung out and had a drink with one of the ladies I found acceptable, but didn't like her "my shit don't stink, I'm hot as fuck" (but she wasn't) attitude. I didn't go upstairs and left. I'll always give the place a quick look on a visit, but unless things change, I can't see spending much time at Mega Ayu.

    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    I went into that "new bar" at KI and found one attractive one in the bunch. Was about to head upstairs when MMS told me she was 700 k (this was a year ago). I said "oh no no no, no freelancers. How much is normal girl?" She said they're ALL 700 k here. Stunned, I took a second look around to see what the difference was. The bar looked the same as any KI bar so I don't know why the ladies were charging double the going rate of the other KI's. I left and went to one of the other joints. If anyone can advise why that bar is so special at 700 k (now 750 k). Is it all bb anal or something?

  6. #16154
    Thanks for the update and report.

    Are you referring to Emporium / Emporivm on Pecenongan Street? Interesting if it re-opened. It was closed as recently as June during my trip there and the gate out front was shut and locked. I thought I remember some construction going on.

    Re: King Cross. Half of the downstairs was blocked off and there were only two or three small couches of ladies in June. Numbers were way down compared to what they use to have with the more open layout and couches full of ladies on both ends. Happy they are still even in business, as the pandemic seems to have seriously impacted them and they haven't recovered yet. Glad the top floor is still open too. I didn't check out the top floor during my last visit. The other places I have heard about in the same complex as King Cross and MTR2 are Sumo, Vermouth, and Hermess Karaoke Executive & Traditional Massage. The only other one I have been to was Sumo, although it has been years. Sumo use to be awesome with the massage ladies and then the dancers and also Chinese imports. The layout of the lounge now though is kind of challenging.

    Also interesting about Medika. That was on my list of places to visit, but I rarely make it out to West Jakarta. When I was in Jakarta, Royal was celebrating its 17th anniversary. They had some kind of sign congratulating them and it had all the KI bars listed, but then also listed New Medika for some reason. That got me thinking about giving it a visit again.

    Quote Originally Posted by ABCinLA  [View Original Post]
    Now a bit refreshed, I explored the areas I sort of remembered. Went over to the grogol area to see if Medika was still operating and it was. Talent level has gone down with the girls on average looking like they gained 10 to 20 pounds. Its 400 K and I did managed to find one to my liking. Overall somewhat lower in total number of providers and consequently not worth a return visit, but I probably will when I return back Jakarta at a later date. Now when one tries to go over to the big malls some will ask for a vaccine card or evidence of vaccination on your cell phone on a random basis. Be prepared to wear a mask at all times in those places as well as public transportation at all times.

    BTW someone had mentioned Emporium was closed, I guess they've reopened at 1,200 K and 1,400 K. I did not actually go inside but was mainly checking out status. Reportedly King Cross was supposedly closed; however, that area in Kelapa Gading was full of opened venues with at least four big massage shops. MTR2 was still going, although their asking price was 570 K definitely not worth it. King Cross has renovated into a pool hall on the ground floor with girls there at 350 K (not worth taking a cab ride over for them). Now the top floor has some very nice ladies at 600 K which I found worth the price (had to pay 6 K for their condom). The prior stage area is gone and the top floor had more of a cocktail lounge vibe now. The mamasan did write down 900 K and 1,200 k also on a piece of paper along with 350 K and 600 K, however I didn't see any of them the higher price girls around. I will definitely take another cab ride there again.

  7. #16153
    Now a bit refreshed, I explored the areas I sort of remembered. Went over to the grogol area to see if Medika was still operating and it was. Talent level has gone down with the girls on average looking like they gained 10 to 20 pounds. Its 400 K and I did managed to find one to my liking. Overall somewhat lower in total number of providers and consequently not worth a return visit, but I probably will when I return back Jakarta at a later date. Now when one tries to go over to the big malls some will ask for a vaccine card or evidence of vaccination on your cell phone on a random basis. Be prepared to wear a mask at all times in those places as well as public transportation at all times.

    BTW someone had mentioned Emporium was closed, I guess they've reopened at 1,200 K and 1,400 K. I did not actually go inside but was mainly checking out status. Reportedly King Cross was supposedly closed; however, that area in Kelapa Gading was full of opened venues with at least four big massage shops. MTR2 was still going, although their asking price was 570 K definitely not worth it. King Cross has renovated into a pool hall on the ground floor with girls there at 350 K (not worth taking a cab ride over for them). Now the top floor has some very nice ladies at 600 K which I found worth the price (had to pay 6 K for their condom). The prior stage area is gone and the top floor had more of a cocktail lounge vibe now. The mamasan did write down 900 K and 1,200 k also on a piece of paper along with 350 K and 600 K, however I didn't see any of them the higher price girls around. I will definitely take another cab ride there again.

  8. #16152

    Jakarta day zero

    Messaged a contact from Badoo, and she was at my hotel in no time. However, she was significantly different compared to her online photos. I considered turning her away, but after a looooong layover in KL, and after the VOA and cab ordeal, I needed a release. On the one hand, she was different from her online photos, she was a little chubbier, and fatter, and also had some sort of a dermatological problem with the skin on her face. She had red patches that she was getting treatment for. However, on the other hand, she had a warm pussy. Went ahead and let her into the room, and we started small talk. She was an ex-bank employee and a DJ who got divorced because her husband wouldn't let her DJ and was controlling in general. We got comfortable with each other, and we started the first session. We both stripped, and she did so to reveal the body of someone who once was fit, but had recently let go. We played with each others' bodies for a while, and she started off with a BBBJ. She was adequately skilled or experienced at it, and I enjoyed it immensely. In the heat of the moment, I floated to her the idea of doing it without a condom, and to my absolute surprise, she agreed! We slowly started in missionary with a focus on getting her wet and going deep. However, she wouldn't let me kiss her face due to her rashes. Oh well. I came relatively soon, not having released previously. She let me come in her pussy, and I made it a point to come deep inside her. In hindsight, I shouldn't have done it bareback; while we were talking she did indicate that she had been working for a while. But since the damage was done, I thought I'd might as well satisfy my breeding fetish. She didn't seem to mind at all, and was joking about getting pregnant! We both separated to clean ourselves.

    Initially she had indicated that she would travel back to her place after 2 shots, but I think we got comfortable with each other, so she decided to sleep over. We had the normal conversation about backgrounds between the 2 sessions, and we went out to get some food. There were a lot of food stalls in Jl. Mangga Besar, and we had decent Sop Iga there. We popped into one of the marts and got some water, and proceeded to go back to the room. Properly fueled and hydrated, we began the 2nd session. While we were talking earlier, we spoke about fetishes, and decided to do the next session with the curtains open, so that the next building could see us fucking. This time I did use the condom. However, I was using the condoms I got back in Thailand, and I think they are a little on the smaller size. A few minutes into the 2nd session, the condom was starting to pinch, and I guess she wasn't so well lubricated. The head started paining a little bit, so I removed it and started fucking her again. In hindsight, again, I shouldn't have done that, but it happened in the heat of the moment. But I couldn't help myself, I was pulling her by her tits into every one of my thrusts. I could see that she enjoyed it through the pain. Again, I came deep inside her pussy in the missionary position.

    I had negotiated with her for 3 shots for 600 k. I was 2 shots down, and planned the last one for the next morning. We fell asleep naked. The next morning, she woke up before me, and was already dressed and ready to leave by the time I was in any position to open my eyes. She asked for payment. Although it wasn't what we agreed on, 600 k for 2 shots wasn't something I was going to fight or raise my voice about. I handed over the cash, made sure all my belongings were where they ought to be, and saw her away.

    Other observations:

    1. Someone here was talking about Jl. Jaksa, the backpacker's hub earlier. I went there around 5:30 pm or 6 pm the other day, and it was deserted. Decent graffiti, but deserted.

    2. Kimochi Mabes isn't easy to find. It's a road off Jl. Mangga Besar, and there is a sign that says "Kimochi" 50 meters away at the turning off of Jl. Mangga Besar. However, once you take the turning, there is no indication of where it is. I walked up and down the road twice in the hopes of finding it, but no joy. I had other stuff to do, so I left the pursuit.

    BBD.

  9. #16151
    Quote Originally Posted by JimThom  [View Original Post]
    Back to Orchardz and had WeChat girl over who hit me up on the nearby function. Again, one of the reasons I'm not excited about social media. Can't view the goods beforehand.
    If you were talking to her on We Chat you could have simply done a video call. It's built right into the app.

  10. #16150
    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    Dang, those carts look awful shady. I'm seriously concerned that either 1) I'll knock down something narcotic or toxic or 2) It's just wasted my 7 bucks on a placebo. Harmless sugar or saline pill.
    Have bought bottles of Cialis from those carts many times and never had any problem with product quality. Sure, it's fake in the sense that it's not real Cialis, but the ingredient appear to be the same. I suggest striking up a relationship with one of the sellers. Tell him you'll buy one and if the product is good, you'll come back and buy a lot more. It's in their interest to sell a working product. If you can't be bothered returning, take a bite of one there and use the bitter (or lack of bitter) taste as the litmus test.

  11. #16149
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77  [View Original Post]
    Pretty much everywhere around Mangga Besar, also outside Classic Hotel there's a cluster, they usually set up after about 5 pm. The "Semut Afrika" pills are useful too and a lot cheaper.
    Dang, those carts look awful shady. I'm seriously concerned that either 1) I'll knock down something narcotic or toxic or 2) It's just wasted my 7 bucks on a placebo. Harmless sugar or saline pill.

  12. #16148
    Quote Originally Posted by ABCinLA  [View Original Post]
    First trip back since I left on March 2020. As I flew over from Narita using ANA I did get a text from them starting a negative PCR test was required to enter Japan. Consequently I obtained one but found out later at the airport it was required only for those actually entering Japan versus those transiting. Entering Jakarta was very trying due to the lines; however, only passport, a vaccine card and boarding pass were required for inspection. I say be prepared for being on your feet for two hours continuously. Of course increase traffic with no much staff additions had a big impact. For my first few days I'll say Kota Indah is jumping with a total of seven girlie bars with minimum pricing now at 400 K. One newer bar on the other side of the you shape alleys wanted 750 K. The Kimochi Mabes near Sparks hotel is still open with the normal amount of providers and I was told by them the #33 Rebecca is now married and retired. The other Kimochi near Hotel 88 #120 is closed. Travel Hotel was also very lively especially in the front; however the back area seems to have only one group. Anyway they did have semi nude dancers which I don't remember from 2020. Still adjusting to the time differential.
    I went into that "new bar" at KI and found one attractive one in the bunch. Was about to head upstairs when MMS told me she was 700 k (this was a year ago). I said "oh no no no, no freelancers. How much is normal girl?" She said they're ALL 700 k here. Stunned, I took a second look around to see what the difference was. The bar looked the same as any KI bar so I don't know why the ladies were charging double the going rate of the other KI's. I left and went to one of the other joints. If anyone can advise why that bar is so special at 700 k (now 750 k). Is it all bb anal or something?

  13. #16147
    Quote Originally Posted by JimThom  [View Original Post]
    It was a mediocre trip to Indonesia this time, but I have to admit probably due mostly to my resistance to getting with the times and engaging with social media.

    ...But in the end, there was another number to contend with. Drama queen factor: 10. On my last day when I told her no we were not going to get married and move in next door to her parents she exploded not into one of her usual orgasms but a fit of rage. Had to deal with that before I finally got her out the door...
    Reminds me of the old saying that "we guys don't pay girls to have sex, we pay them to leave afterwards."

    Sorry you had to deal with that.

  14. #16146

    Mediocre trip

    It was a mediocre trip to Indonesia this time, but I have to admit probably due mostly to my resistance to getting with the times and engaging with social media.

    After being disappointed that the spa at Orchardz Bandara was closed, a staff member at the hotel actually offered to send a massage girl to my room. That's usually a pretty decent option since if the girl is no good it's no good for everyone. But she got to my door and I was like WTF? I decided to let her do her thing but with a mid-30's face 5, body 3 (fat, kids) and service 5 (gave FS but not great), it was a total ripoff for 1 million for the girl and 200 k for the staff member.

    Disgusted with the whole scene, I took off for Lake Toba to just get some relaxation time in and forget my anger at the paucity of the post-covid scene in Jakarta. By sheer chance hooked up for a few days with a mid-40's Danish MILF who was looking to blow off some steam after a nasty divorce. Good times for sure but definitely not a long-term strategy heading to legit places and hoping to hook up.

    Back to Orchardz and had WeChat girl over who hit me up on the nearby function. Again, one of the reasons I'm not excited about social media. Can't view the goods beforehand. She sent current pics before that were accurate but concealed deficits under deceptive clothing. Face 6, body 4 (fat, had a kidwould have been a 3 had she not been early 20's), service 6. Managed to get off, but again not a great experience compared to the former smokin' hot repertoire at the Orchardz spa and the cute enthusiasm of FM1 girls. 800 k FS plus 100 k "taxi. ".

    For a finale, had a memorable tryst (for both the right and wrong) reasons with a mid-thirties Indo Cupid woman. When she showed up at my door, turned out her profile pic was 10 years old and 20 kg skinnier. She immediately knew I was not happy but said she was super horny and really wanted it. Well, that part was right. Spent 4 days with her. Face 5, body 4 (fat, no kids at least), but horniness level 11. Insatiable. Moaning, screaming, shuddering DATY orgasms, eager CIM. She just couldn't get enough. But in the end, there was another number to contend with. Drama queen factor: 10. On my last day when I told her no we were not going to get married and move in next door to her parents she exploded not into one of her usual orgasms but a fit of rage. Had to deal with that before I finally got her out the door.

    My experience this time was that Indonesia is a sad skeleton of its pre-covid glory but I'm going to try to follow the advice of some here and get into modern times with social media to make my next trip better.

  15. #16145
    First trip back since I left on March 2020. As I flew over from Narita using ANA I did get a text from them starting a negative PCR test was required to enter Japan. Consequently I obtained one but found out later at the airport it was required only for those actually entering Japan versus those transiting. Entering Jakarta was very trying due to the lines; however, only passport, a vaccine card and boarding pass were required for inspection. I say be prepared for being on your feet for two hours continuously. Of course increase traffic with no much staff additions had a big impact. For my first few days I'll say Kota Indah is jumping with a total of seven girlie bars with minimum pricing now at 400 K. One newer bar on the other side of the you shape alleys wanted 750 K. The Kimochi Mabes near Sparks hotel is still open with the normal amount of providers and I was told by them the #33 Rebecca is now married and retired. The other Kimochi near Hotel 88 #120 is closed. Travel Hotel was also very lively especially in the front; however the back area seems to have only one group. Anyway they did have semi nude dancers which I don't remember from 2020. Still adjusting to the time differential.

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