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  1. #13743

    More hotels similar to travel and classic.

    Guys,

    You have more places like travel and classic? With the line up. I believe city like Jakarta would have more like them I am talking along the same economy scale.

  2. #13742
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Took grab to BART (Bar at The Roof Top) last night which is located at Artotel Thamrin. There was a live band playing but there was not much of a crowd that Thursday night. So, the hearsay about freelancers working there is not true at all. Anyway, the place was quite hip, more tailored towards the millennials with open area, pretty much like the Cloud lounge albeit at a much lower level. The cool air and low humidity makes this place a great place to chill out.

    Anyway, I was able to strike up a conversation with a new, young, and very friendly waitress. She is from Bandung who just started work there three weeks ago and it was her first time to Jakarta, and was into clubbing and likes EDM. She offered me her WA info and asked me to bring her along the next time I hit all these clubs. Too bad I had already arranged myself a date (who am I kidding. An escort essentially and possibly with her good friend if her schedule lines up) for this weekend plus she had to work. Well there is always a next time. It is just amazing how I am able to easily build up this list of contacts for my future trip.

    After a drink, I headed over to BATS (Bar at The Shangri-La). I have to admit that I had never been to BATS and just want to check out the place. My first impression of the lineup was a big Meh. The girls were definitely more mature than CJ. There were a few hot ones but in terms of quantity and quality, I think CJ's selection is much better. The only upside is that the live band was better and I think the drink was also slightly cheaper. It cost 150 K for a cocktail vs more than 200 K that CJ charges and also not get a watered down gin and tonic for that cover drink. One thing that I noticed is that girls outnumbered the guys that night. I didn't see many leaving with the guys in the bar that night. I even saw one girl trying to shake down an old white guy next to me for a tip. I asked him later what the damage was and he said about AUD10.
    This is similar to my experiences in Jakarta.

    I read the forum, hear all these great things about CJs, get there and it's old women that have dolled themselves up. Average age of the hookers must have been in the 30's. Not to mention 200 k for a beer. Just a hotel hooker bar tourist trap.

    So if you're saying BATS is a step down from CJs, it must be bad.

    I've probably stopped by Blok M 10 times in 4 years. Huge disappointment every time. Even after 2 am when it's busier. People on this forum should be warning others to not even bother. People talk it about it as though it's a legitimate mongering option.

    Malio I haven't been to since they got rid of the naked dancing. But before that everything about it was overpriced. It felt like a clip joint with the high prices then arbitrary 30% service charge on top of everything. They had some nice girls there (too many not so nice girls for the prices they charge), but I didn't think they were any girls there that you couldn't get at Classic for a fraction of the price if you were patient (I enjoy the hunt). In Malioboro itself I thought the quality was inferior to Malio Club. For what they charge at Malio I'd rather stick to Thai gogos. More fun, can go to my room, maybe turns into long time, works out cheaper, more transparent.

    Where Jakarta excels (only my opinion and many will disagree), are the places like Classic. Good price at 365 k, mamasans don't hassle me for tips, can usually find a cute 19 or 20 year old, drinks reasonably priced, pricing is transparent (I think Classic have a 30% service charge on drinks but it's still a reasonable price), rooms are spotless.

    It's interesting how people can have a completely different perspectives on the same venues and same city.

  3. #13741
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Though the lead girl did not have great boobs, kind of saggy, she more than made up in her blowjob skill. I can tell she had great practice and can feel that she also truly enjoyed it. It is rare for any girl to want receive CIM, but to suck you dry like a vacuum and swallow is even rarer. Her friend was also looking at her for directions on how to pleasure me. As they each took turn do the deeds with me, the other girl would hold the camera and filmed us, and when it comes to the lead girl holding the camera, she would guide the other girl on what to do. It was at truly unique and great experience.
    Sorry to hear about all the trials and tribulations. But kudos for persevering through it all and coming out with a night to remember (in a good way)!

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  5. #13739
    One thing that I had learned from my trips to Indonesia are that Indo girls are not reliable and making any plans ahead of time is a futile exercise. My MO in Jakarta is undoubtedly more different than the typical mongers. I value my limited time here in Jakarta more than the money I could save if I am to do XYZ. I prefer quality over quantity, and I perceive the dollar value of my experience over what I would otherwise get back at home. Hence, I want to share my experience and maybe the lessons that could be learned from it somewhere if any. Here's my version of this event.

    I went to Malio on Monday night looking for a girl recommended by a fellow ISG member, and had a great time with her. Very GFE quality with DFK, BBBJ and even CIM. I asked her if she might have a friend where we can have an enjoyable 3 some overnight that weekend. She recommended her friend who lives in Cianjur (four hours drive away from Jakarta). We connected and agreed to meet up on Friday. Given that she hardly had any money to come to Jakarta where she even showed me a screenshot of her account balance (only Rp. 2000, seriously? I transferred some money to help her cover the transportation cost.

    Mistake Numero Uno: We did not previously come to an understanding to an agreed price. I assume that given she is not a city girl, maybe 1. 5 million per night would suffice. After arriving Jakarta that Friday, she asked how much I was willing to pay her. She expected 3 million for LT but was willing to settle for 2 million given the effort she has already made coming here to Jakarta. At that point, I have lost interest with that girl with the back and forth negotiation but continued to play along expecting her to meet me that Friday night. I needed a backup just in case a date that I had with the waitress that I met at BART the previous night did not go anywhere. Unfortunately, it did given that her protective sister kept asking where she was (that's a separate story). So I decided to go with the original plan. Even that got messed up.

    Looked like the Cianjur girl was not even coming over to meet up as she was with her friends in a KTV room. I can tell from her WA status update. Okay, I said screw it and headed over to CJ instead. CJ lineup that Friday night was good. There were plenty of good looking girls, definitely far better than the ones in BATS. Going in, I noticed a girl that I liked, but decided not to commit that early yet.

    Then I saw a very hot girl with her friend standing by the table, and decided to ease my way there and had a conversation with them.

    Mistake Numero Dos: If interested in any girls there, bring up pricing agreement sooner rather than later. I failed to do that and had paid for a few rounds of their drinks (and pretty high end stuff too), and later could not come to an agreement. She wanted 3 million for LT while I am only willing to settle for 2 million. I even told them that I can include her friend as a package. As hot as she is, I am not willing to deviate from my original offer. She can look hot, but she is of no guarantee of a quality service in bed. I told her that's fine by me, even when later on her friend hinted to me that she is willing to settle for 2. 5.

    Anyway, I moved on and settled for the previous girl that I saw. Since this girl brought along her friend who is doing this p4 p stuff for the first time, she was not willing to go with me unless I took them as a package. As I was also looking for a package, it works out nicely. I told them straight up that I would give them 2 million each and not to pull stupid stunt like needing to leave at dawn, they were very happy to accept my offer.

    I am actually glad to end up with these two girls, and frankly had one of the best threesome so far in Indonesia. It was also hilarious when we had to order room service because the girls were hungry, and as the service boy delivered the food, these two girls were already in a state of undress. To him, it was obvious the things that were going on in the room and he tried to appear nonchalant. I tipped him and he left quickly, and we all laughed about it afterwards.

    Though the lead girl did not have great boobs, kind of saggy, she more than made up in her blowjob skill. I can tell she had great practice and can feel that she also truly enjoyed it. It is rare for any girl to want receive CIM, but to suck you dry like a vacuum and swallow is even rarer. Her friend was also looking at her for directions on how to pleasure me. As they each took turn do the deeds with me, the other girl would hold the camera and filmed us, and when it comes to the lead girl holding the camera, she would guide the other girl on what to do. It was at truly unique and great experience.

  6. #13738
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Took grab to BART (Bar at The Roof Top) last night which is located at Artotel Thamrin. There was a live band playing but there was not much of a crowd that Thursday night. So, the hearsay about freelancers working there is not true at all. Anyway, the place was quite hip, more tailored towards the millennials with open area, pretty much like the Cloud lounge albeit at a much lower level. The cool air and low humidity makes this place a great place to chill out.

    Anyway, I was able to strike up a conversation with a new, young, and very friendly waitress. She is from Bandung who just started work there three weeks ago and it was her first time to Jakarta, and was into clubbing and likes EDM. She offered me her WA info and asked me to bring her along the next time I hit all these clubs. Too bad I had already arranged myself a date (who am I kidding. An escort essentially and possibly with her good friend if her schedule lines up) for this weekend plus she had to work. Well there is always a next time. It is just amazing how I am able to easily build up this list of contacts for my future trip.

    After a drink, I headed over to BATS (Bar at The Shangri-La). I have to admit that I had never been to BATS and just want to check out the place. My first impression of the lineup was a big Meh. The girls were definitely more mature than CJ. There were a few hot ones but in terms of quantity and quality, I think CJ's selection is much better. The only upside is that the live band was better and I think the drink was also slightly cheaper. It cost 150 K for a cocktail vs more than 200 K that CJ charges and also not get a watered down gin and tonic for that cover drink. One thing that I noticed is that girls outnumbered the guys that night. I didn't see many leaving with the guys in the bar that night. I even saw one girl trying to shake down an old white guy next to me for a tip. I asked him later what the damage was and he said about AUD10.
    Too bad about BART. Thanks for checking it out for us. Totally agree with your assessment of BATS vs. CJs.

  7. #13737
    Took grab to BART (Bar at The Roof Top) last night which is located at Artotel Thamrin. There was a live band playing but there was not much of a crowd that Thursday night. So, the hearsay about freelancers working there is not true at all. Anyway, the place was quite hip, more tailored towards the millennials with open area, pretty much like the Cloud lounge albeit at a much lower level. The cool air and low humidity makes this place a great place to chill out.

    Anyway, I was able to strike up a conversation with a new, young, and very friendly waitress. She is from Bandung who just started work there three weeks ago and it was her first time to Jakarta, and was into clubbing and likes EDM. She offered me her WA info and asked me to bring her along the next time I hit all these clubs. Too bad I had already arranged myself a date (who am I kidding. An escort essentially and possibly with her good friend if her schedule lines up) for this weekend plus she had to work. Well there is always a next time. It is just amazing how I am able to easily build up this list of contacts for my future trip.

    After a drink, I headed over to BATS (Bar at The Shangri-La). I have to admit that I had never been to BATS and just want to check out the place. My first impression of the lineup was a big Meh. The girls were definitely more mature than CJ. There were a few hot ones but in terms of quantity and quality, I think CJ's selection is much better. The only upside is that the live band was better and I think the drink was also slightly cheaper. It cost 150 K for a cocktail vs more than 200 K that CJ charges and also not get a watered down gin and tonic for that cover drink. One thing that I noticed is that girls outnumbered the guys that night. I didn't see many leaving with the guys in the bar that night. I even saw one girl trying to shake down an old white guy next to me for a tip. I asked him later what the damage was and he said about AUD10.

  8. #13736
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    The lady sitaution was so bad that even that band couldn't keep me there. I bolted after about 10 minutes. LOL.
    Special events there have hotties.

  9. #13735
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    That is the way it used to be in the West before suffragette. The feminist movement has destroyed Western girls and the result is no one in the West is happy anymore. The proof is the so called Western Democracies can't even maintain their populations. Me: I can't wait for the day when I permanently escape and leave this Western cultural wasteland behind.
    Those fanatical feminists are doing more damage to women than to anyone else. Supposedly the suicide rate among millennial girls is up 70% from the previous generation.

  10. #13734

    Action near Bintaro Mall

    Visitong Jakarta next week for a few days, staying near Bintaro mall. Any recommed Massage plus establishments in the area? PM or reply here if you have any suggestions.

  11. #13733

    Having your cake. Eastern style

    Quote Originally Posted by IronQuinn  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how many on this forum are under forty, but that's the demographic I represent. By the time I was born, feminism was securely rooted in US culture. Growing up in school, that was just the way it was, there were so many. I had my share, and looking back, I deserve a medal for getting what I did in this society. It took a lot of work telling them what they wanted to hear, never saying the wrong thing, playing the waiting game, or god forbid you have a wandering eye. Then, I started traveling (once I had a chance to save up my pennies), and discovered places like SEA and South America. I remember my first trip to Colombia and saying, "Son of a *****, I was born too late!
    Not trying to show off just inform others esp Westerners about what's possible.

    Grew up in Western society but luckily had my fair share of experiences and some more due to a number of factors. Soon got the Asian fever.

    Now am in a 10 year relationship with beautiful Asian lady (yes she's nearly 50 but looks 35) who lets this almost 60 year old travel and surely knows I must be enjoying myself when OS. She doesn't ask and I keep it very discrete. No, she works in a good job and pays her way but obviously I am the higher income earner.

    If she asked me to give up my travels I would but she would probably never do that. She even encourages me to travel. Once I went with an male relative of her's to a MP overseas that caters for us type of gentleman- pretty sure he got full service. I thought it was a test so I acted surprised and didn't take up the option. This relative is married to a member of my partner's immediate family and he seems to be getting some enjoyment too, with knowledge of his spouse.

    Now not saying this would happen in every Asian / Western relationship but it does happen. If you are stuck with one of those fugly feminist white bitches I pity you. But did you know YOU do have an OPTION. Don't you?

    Just sayin'.

  12. #13732
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Making advances on another man's wife while he is away on business. Mongering may not be the most honorable activity but there is still a line to be drawn. You are the scum of the earth!
    This is satire right? Tell me you are joking.

    If you think hitting on a married woman is the moral line that may not be crossed, dude you are very naive indeed.

  13. #13731
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    the Indo band I saw at Eastern Promise was actually pretty decent. My only good memory of Eastern Promise.
    The lady sitaution was so bad that even that band couldn't keep me there. I bolted after about 10 minutes. LOL.

  14. #13730
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Their band not playing that night can't help. I think Sunday is the deadest night of the week everywhere in Jakarta.
    Unless there is a good female lead singer this would actually be a bonus for me since I am not a fan of live bands, although the Indo band I saw at Eastern Promise was actually pretty decent. My only good memory of Eastern Promise.

  15. #13729
    Quote Originally Posted by Marky1  [View Original Post]
    Sunday night is ladies night too right?
    It's not only ladies night, it's man's night. Everyone gets in free on Sunday night. It's still the deadest night of the week. Their band not playing that night can't help. I think Sunday is the deadest night of the week everywhere in Jakarta.

    Quote Originally Posted by UsPete  [View Original Post]
    Tahi Lalat is a mole

    Probably a dangdut song about this, there is for everything else.
    I did a search and there are some dangdut songs about tahi lalat, but only bad ones, unfortunately.

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