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  1. #13940

    Just reply RTFF

    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

    But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.
    The best way to handle such people is either to ignore or just reply "RTFF", I recommend spelling it out as "Read The Fucking Forum" as lots of new internet users may not be aware of the abbreviation.

    I absolutely see no point in invoking racial slurs or stereotyping / generalizing 650 million men of a sub-continent speaking 780 languages among them and having more genetic diversity than whole of native western Europe.

    P.S: I would like to thank Smoothy for his amazing contribution to the forum though and agree some posters do not respond back with their trip reports and intel they found.

  2. #13939
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSnake  [View Original Post]
    All it took is one line of message to answer the person than 2 people responding with replies not asked for.

    Type all that you want it won't matter.

    We know our history and will take what is needed of this forum from people who are caring and sharing or from those who do not generalize and since we are also part of internet community and that this Indonesian page does not belong to any one person we will ask for information.

    May be some one like me will respond to them.

    There is no heat its just a sex forum.

    Hope I have not crossed any line and just want to put my point across.

    OS.
    OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

    But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.

    The forum has been setup with the intention of sharing intelligence on the hobby we all love. And that has to be a 2 way street. In order to work well. It also revolves around the expectation (which is clearly stated e RTFF) that one will read and learn. No more difficult that using a simple Google search.

    The criticism comes when people cruise by asking questions without reading enough. That suggests that they have no respect for other people's time or effort. And once they are done there is usually no follow up report or even a thank you. That irritates folks who spend a lot of time in sharing information here.

    If one were to only read Smoothy's posts over a few days you can write an entire fiction story about a trip to Jakarta complete with details like restaurant names discos bars girls with names and prices hotel and the cuisine the bands and city landmarks and their history. His reports are that good!

    I have my personal opinion on some of his views but on reporting and helping with information. No sir. He is ahead there.

  3. #13938

    None understood my post.

    All it took is one line of message to answer the person than 2 people responding with replies not asked for.

    Type all that you want it won't matter.

    We know our history and will take what is needed of this forum from people who are caring and sharing or from those who do not generalize and since we are also part of internet community and that this Indonesian page does not belong to any one person we will ask for information.

    May be some one like me will respond to them.

    There is no heat its just a sex forum.

    Hope I have not crossed any line and just want to put my point across.

    OS.

  4. #13937

    Streetwalkers on Jalan Hayam Wuruk

    Streetwalkers are available on Hayam Wuruk. Details:

    Location:
    Starting from the Hotel Grand Mercure Harmoni up to the Dunkin Donuts. The girls are spread out approximately over a 1.2 km stretch (0. 75 miles).
    They are either sitting on a motorbike or pacing on the street. Some of them wave at passing cars to attract the driver.
    The Grand Mercure, Hotel Ibis and a McDonalds are all located next to each other. This McDonalds is open 24 hours and includes a McCafe on the second level.
    This is a good spot for a first meeting. The McCafe is not very big and you will see folks chatting or browsing on their phones all hours of the night.

    Girls:
    The girls show up after midnight. On two consecutive nights, I observed 8 to 10 girls. Most of these girls are accompanied by a pimp / handler.
    I would rate three of the girls a solid 5. (One of these girls could be even rated 6). The others were not worth rating.

    Price:
    I inquired for reporting purposes only. The "list" price is 500,000 IDR. When I started to walk away, the pimp quickly said 400,000 IDR.
    I offered 200,000 - this was flatly rejected. My impression is he would have settled for 350,000. These prices are for ST only.
    These girls will be in and out of the room in one hour or less.


    Why bother?:
    This is an option:
    (1) If you wake up at 3 am with a raging erection and need a girl in your Hotel room.

    (2) You have a BAD session at Classic and could not finish. It is past 2 am and closing time. From Classic, these SWs are only 5 minutes away by Taxi / Ojek.
    You come up Jalan Samanhudi and make a left on Hayam Wuruk. You will see the Grand Mercure on your left side.

  5. #13936
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolGuy0476  [View Original Post]
    If you have nasty comments you may please keep that to yourself. This is not a sparring match. Back where I come from, fellow mongers help each other on this forum and are not sarcastic to fellow forum member.
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolGuy0476  [View Original Post]
    And to think of it I only asked for a budget range. Should have committed a bigger crime by asking for details like girls who are the best lays, what all are they open to doing, which floor of Classic has the best ones, what's the best time to go etc etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolGuy0476  [View Original Post]
    And you think I got to know about Classic and CJs in my dreams!!
    If the time spent on reading "sarcastic and nasty" comments and writing responses to them had been spent in reading the forum, it would have saved a lot of your own time, but I guess that cannot be expected from you.

    If you thought the comments were nasty, then I have news for you. Don't enter the kitchen if you can't take the heat.

    If back where you come from people are more loving and caring and sharing, please feel free to go back there. You will not be missed here.

  6. #13935
    [Racial Epithet(s) Deleted by Admin]

    EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing racial epithets.

    Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports deleted for personal attacks, racial epithets or other derogatory comments, will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.

  7. #13934
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Very quick witted today Smoothy, but your point is valid.
    And to think of it I only asked for a budget range. Should have committed a bigger crime by asking for details like girls who are the best lays, what all are they open to doing, which floor of Classic has the best ones, what's the best time to go etc etc.

  8. #13933
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    One look at your post asking others to do your leg work for you when the information is already available here, and I immediately knew you were Indian. {Snip}
    Very quick witted today Smoothy, but your point is valid.

  9. #13932
    Smoothy,

    And you think I got to know about Classic and CJs in my dreams!!

  10. #13931

    Do not generalise please

    Hi Smoothy,

    Do not generalise as Indians not reading. Sure more would have asked that doesn't mean some thing bad about Indians. I am sick of people stereo typing Indians as they see the whole thing from Pattaya to every where from their perspective.

    They go in groups as many have not been outside India in their life and they have language and confidence issues.

    Going to prostitutes is very much frowned upon and there are guilt issues its at a whole new level in India.

    For cool guy not reading the forum he had specifically mentioned he didn't go further and he needs the help. To him. Classic and travel 400 k for the girl mailo and other places 1 mill and above man.

    The mongering world does not revolve only around white men so don't expect all to be in line with your prowess in this hobby. You can't criticize a culture / Person if you haven't walked their way of life. What you feel is bad is totally fine in this part of the world.

    OS.

  11. #13930
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolGuy0476  [View Original Post]
    Friends. I will be in Jakarta for a business trip 2nd week of March. Read the first few pages of the forum and could figure out CJs and Classic as the places to surely visit. Would really appreciate if someone can help with the damages for girls at these places so I don't get ripped off.

    It's probably mentioned further down in the forum but a quick refresher willl help save the effort.

    Thanks in advance.
    One look at your post asking others to do your leg work for you when the information is already available here,[Deleted by Admin]. The other request they have is contact information for girls to come directly to their room. I used to reply, but I'm sick of giving information when they do not reciprocate. Of course it's not all Indians doing this, I have some good friends who are Indian, but they are more respectful.

    I'm with Blanquiceleste, you need to respect other guy's time and make the effort yourself. The information has already been posted many times. When you provide some information of value about Jakarta, others will be glad to reciprocate. For your first visit, you have to at least make the effort to read the friggin forum.

  12. #13929
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolGuy0476  [View Original Post]

    It's probably mentioned further down in the forum but a quick refresher willl help save the effort.

    Thanks in advance.
    So make that effort. What stops you?

  13. #13928

    Jakarta Trip.

    Friends. I will be in Jakarta for a business trip 2nd week of March. Read the first few pages of the forum and could figure out CJs and Classic as the places to surely visit. Would really appreciate if someone can help with the damages for girls at these places so I don't get ripped off.

    It's probably mentioned further down in the forum but a quick refresher willl help save the effort.

    Thanks in advance.

  14. #13927
    Last time I saw her, was last year at Cjs. She was occupied with a guy, looked like a BF. The way they behaved. I was with a girl who knew her too. It was she who said she was off market. That was the first sighting of her for me in a couple of years, and I'm quite regular at both Bats and Cjs. But if you say she may be "available", I'll check my luck tonight, as I already had plans to check out Bats!

    Bernard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    You have good taste. She is one of my favorite Indo girls ever. I knew her well between 2007 until 2009. She was a Top Gun girl fresh out of Indramayu. At first she dressed modestly, she never wore a dress and only wore jeans or shorts with cheap tops with a jeans jacket and didn't really know how to apply makeup. It was interesting watching her evolve. By 2009, she was wearing fancy dresses and lots of makeup. By 2011, she was a hard core pro. She went from a shy girl who hid in the corner to the queen of glam. We had a bit of a falling out, so I haven't taken her home since 2009. I still see her around on occasion. She's not off the market as far as I know, and I think you can find her at BATS. I didn't go with her the last time I saw her, but I got her new number. She seems to have forgiven me almost 10 years later. LOL. It would still be awkward if I were to take her home again, but I would like to give it a shot. Here's a photo of her after she had already learned how to glam it up.

  15. #13926
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    You have good taste. She is one of my favorite Indo girls ever. I knew her well between 2007 until 2009. She was a Top Gun girl fresh out of Indramayu. At first she dressed modestly, she never wore a dress and only wore jeans or shorts with cheap tops with a jeans jacket and didn't really know how to apply makeup. It was interesting watching her evolve. By 2009, she was wearing fancy dresses and lots of makeup. By 2011, she was a hard core pro. She went from a shy girl who hid in the corner to the queen of glam. We had a bit of a falling out, so I haven't taken her home since 2009. I still see her around on occasion. She's not off the market as far as I know, and I think you can find her at BATS. I didn't go with her the last time I saw her, but I got her new number. She seems to have forgiven me almost 10 years later. LOL. It would still be awkward if I were to take her home again, but I would like to give it a shot. Here's a photo of her after she had already learned how to glam it up.
    Damn Smoothy, seems like you and I have followed the same trail as far as girls go, although being only a visitor I certainly haven't had the pleasure of as many. I found Indo late in life and Frida was one of my first pick ups there. Met her in TG early 2010, certainly stood out amongst the crowd :-) Must have been the figure hugging gold dress she was wearing at the time.

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