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  1. #22198

    Day 12: Disappointing MiChat and an Unexpected surprise

    This was my last day in Jakarta, had a flight next morning so didn't want to linger around at Classic and KI closing timings, wanted a quick 2-3 hours action in the hotel room and wanted it to be over by 1 am so I could get some rest.

    Given previous not so bad of an experience I decided to give Michat another try expecting some unearthed gem to drop by, but this time it just turned out to be waste of time and money. I talked to many girls and had deal confirmation with 3 girls and of all those, here is a short summary of what happened with each of them.

    1. All things were ok till I gave her hotel name, confirmed pics etc, and when it came to travelling, she asked me to transfer money. I am a seasoned monger and know never to pay girl in advance like this before you meet or see her, so I said you come to hotel, I will pay the cab fare once you arrive. This triggered something obnoxious in her and started talking about me being liar and other bla bla stuff, they saying she will report me to authorities for cancelling deal and all, I laughed hard and then blocked her Whatsapp. Howeer 1 hour was wasted in this to and fro.

    2. Girl 2: Excellant pics (next door homely beautiful looking girl type pics), and then what arrived was a chubby unattractive girl, I told her that we had agreed if you don't match the pics I will send you back, she asked to talk in the room, and then started debating that she is the same girl I talked to bla bla. Then mentioning I will need to report this to papa and so on, I gave her a 100 k for the taxi, she started asking for 200, I said no this is all you get, and got her out of the room somehow. Then I got a message from the same number after some time that 'Why did you reject my girl', I told that she does not match her pics at all, he offered me to send other girls but by that time I had lost interest. This was another hour wasted.

    3. Another girl again slim in pics claiming to be 24 agreed to come. I had already ordered food and drinks for the girl to arrive but my plan was being derailed by these annoyances. Long story short, I asked this one to meet in the lobby, she wore a mask, met me near elevator got in, I asked her to take down the mask. 24 my ass it was more like 54. Once the lift reached my floor I said again you don't match the pics and I want to cancel this right now. She was more polite than the earlier girl and said give me taxi money and I go, I said ok and asked how much, she quoted 500 k, I gave her a 100 k again and said this is it, take it or leave it.

    After above debacles I wanted the night to go right so remembered the hot club 36 hot girls who came with a very high price tag, but I had money left which I had planned to spend anyways so said what the hell and thought I will add the karaoke experience to my list also, but what was quoted to be 2. 9 juta for experience with 1 girl and 1 bottle of whiskey actually came to a sum total of 4 m after taxes and all the other charges, good thing I got this calculation done at the reception only and decided not to engage. Hopes for the night were fluttering away while the ordered food in room was getting cold.

    I tried getting hold of my Classic and KI contacts but they were already on their shifts, so that was a dead end too, it was already 11 pm, I was coming out disappointed from club 36, while I heard a whooshing (don't know what is the correct word for some calling you with sounds), it was the doorman of club 36, I usually just smile and say Hi / bye from a distance to this kind of communication but since I was running out of options I engaged in a small talk, after some small talk the keyword came into play 'do you want ladies', I said ok, show me what you got. He showed me 3-4 options on his phone and those photos look over beautified, but as the clock was ticking I said ok, send them over. He took my hotel name etc and after about half an hour 2 girls showed up, my first preference turned out to be chubby and wasn't wearing any makeup, other girl was slim and wearing too much make up for my taste but chose her anyways. By that time I thought I will just use the company and skip the sex, however after a bottle of beer she started getting her wares out (the listerine, tissues, lube etc), she asked me to join shower but I said later, signalling that I may not have any sex, I was just enjoying beer and playlist of some Rihanna and other seductive songs. She went in the bathroom by herself anyways, got showered and came back by wearing just the white towel. Although I was not too attracted to her I was a little intrigued by the sight and asked her to sit on the arm rest of my couch type chair while another thought playing in my head was whether she was rushing to the finish line to get out faster. That is when I wanted to kiss her, but she started massaging my arms instead, she was good at it and told me she worked somewhere as a massage therapist also. She spent a good 15-20 minutes on my arms and legs while I was seated. I think she took it as a challenge that I wasn't too interested in her and started building her moves slowly and steadily by comforting with me with a good massage first.

    After this she came back to her original position on arm rest of my chair, I hinted her to kiss me, but she instead went for ear play, although I don't express an explicit interest in this activity (don't ever ask girls to do this of my own volition) I have met a handful of girls who use this as a seduction technique and I won't be lying when I say that it turns out to be a huge turn on for me and only a seasoned champ can do this right, I remember another recent memory of this was a young massage parlour hottie in Prague (she was from Ukraine). This event got me buzzing and after this I pulled her in for long and hard DFK, while her hand was caressing johnny over the soft cotton cloth of my boxers, and mine was exploring the edges of her wrapped around towel, just enough to get the first sexual touch but not eager or rushing to pull it off instantly, we both were getting in the zone/building up to the blockbuster at a slow, steady and sensous pace. Just when I thought that she had played her ace card to pull me in and rest is going to be routine sex, she started kissing my arms followed by my underarms and then on to my feet, legs, calves, thighs, I was loving the discovery and experience of this wild ride and was now fully in the act, she took my hands in her hands got me up from my slumber aka couch, helped me undress and damn what followed can only be described as a total bliss, once undressed we locked into yet another kissing contest and after that she took charge and kissed me from head to toe and everything in between from the front (literally), with a succulent sloppy BBJ and licking of entire genital area, I was already on cloud 9 and while I was still thinking that this girl is wild she turned me around by holding my shoulders, I thought she is trying to get me into some position or hinting me to do something I did not understand, but noooo that is not what she had in mind, she kissed my entire back from neck to my ass till the back of my legs and every crack / crevice in between. I was super turned on and concurred with myself that I have stumbled upon a rare gem. I know in our sexual journey we come across many kinds of girls but in my past 15-20 years of mongering journey I have met very few girls who are wild themselves or have a sexually forward personality, most girls just put up with our actions and either pretend to be happy or are sometimes genuinely happy, but to find a girl who is so forward with a man's body is rare indeed. I am not as handsome as I once was (still do ok for a middle aged guy) and hence a girl appreciating me and my body this much was an overwhelming feeling.

    Our actions then moved on to the bed where she gave me a sensational lickaroo BBJ again and my soldier was hard and enthusiastically reporting for duty, we banged in all the obvious positions I ploughed hard and she was more than happy to receive it, while going missionary first I also found my way to her underarms and licked it in reciprocation of her doing it to me earlier, she was clean shaven so it wasn't a problem and man the reaction that I got from that kiss and later lick is undescribable (her whole body vibrated while her mouth produced audible moans and she kept shifting her head from left to right and vice versa frantically), despite having so much fun, I did not want to let one go off in a cheap manner (with just one excited moment or one high pleasured blow), I instead endured and stretched the sensation in various positions (Miss, Doggie, WOT) we fucked for more than half hour and were still going at it. She knew how to work with a man's body, meaning she gave me a blowjob after disconnecting from every position ensuring my peak of enthusiasm doesn't fade and it did not. My mind kept on wondering how far can I take it without it being too much for this gem of a girl, she was enjoying her time in WOT and I was enjoying looking at her sexually enthusiastic body and personality, then my mind went to one of my more coveted kinks I. E. CIM, I took her in my embrace and sucked her tongue dry (our mouths as our bodies were working in unison) while she was still in WOT position, I slowly disconnected from the kiss and whispered the CIM question in her ear, she blinked for a moment of thought and then agreed with a smile, gradually after disconnecting from WOT position, she took off the condom in a professional manner (with tissues and all that), and thereafter put the lollypop in her mouth, licking it all over like it is the tastiest thing in the world, after some time she drooled on it from by taking her mouth slightly above the tool, so I could see her release the drool on my tool, man what a sight, I was loving every moment of everything. Perfect sucking technique as well, where I could feel all the walls / boundaries of her mouth just in the right amount to keep me pushing further after 10 odd minutes of being in a heavenly BJ, I warned her that my plane was about to land, she nodded her head giving her consent while increasing the the pace and vigor of sucking leading to me exploding in her mouth, she didn't let a drop spill out despite me being on my back while I climaxed. I wished she would have swallowed the load but I think she kept it in her mouth and went to the bathroom but that was a night for my history books.

    We showered together and once again I enjoyed her pampering me by soaping / washing my whole body from inch to inch, I left the shower first still mesimerized by the whole experience and trying to come to my senses, I settled down and offered her the dinner that I had ordered before along with another beer. I tipped her a very well deserved 200 k tip, rest of the deal was 600 for 2 hours. We exchanged numbers and sweet goodbye kisses as she left.

    The morale of the story seems that sometimes we judge too soon as our brains are tuned to reading between the lines which means anticipating or forecasting the whole story rather than living it, despite saying this going forward also I might reject a girl based on appearance alone, but life has a way of throwing us pleasant surprises every now and then, realize them, respect and live it to the max, I will also call this a lucky break and leave it at that (will try to contact the same girl again when I visit next time and try to spend more time with her)

    Pardon moi for this long post but I enjoy writing my experiences in detail as I relive them again while my hands do the typing and mind tries to remember every detail, and this was certainly one for the books for me.

    Final day in Jakarta concluded in a musical symphony of sex.

    Cheers and peace out, until next time or Sampai jumpa lagi!!

  2. #22197

    Quick replies and Day 10-11 FR. MiChat

    Thank you for your replies and comments: Futureguy, werqwerq, Vendelo and Maximus V.

    Quick replies on your comments:

    Loksari: Intention was just scouting and checking the wares, never been one to pick streetwalkers otherwise, but if something met my fancy then I would have taken the chance.

    Michat: I finally took the chance and tried it out, Detailed FR on the same below (won't recommend it to anyone else though).

    @ Vendelo: The girl I was talking about was already assigned to a customer, she wasn't part of a line up, but I understand your approach and reasons why sometimes going on the front foot helps especially if someone catches your eye.

    Day 10-11: Michat girls.

    Tonight I had decided to stay in, rest have a couple of beers and call it a night but after the beers went in my instinct for adventure took hold but it was already 1 am and I didn't want to venture out. So I was casually browsing the wares on Michat, got talking to many girls one of whom met my criteria (at least on the pics and agreement to what I want and for how much). So yeah she asked for the hotel name, and after arrival room number, I was expecting to pick her up from lobby but she ended up knocking my hotel door instead, so yeah as mentioned by Werqwerq don't give them room number too soon, luckily she turned out to look good, so after a brief convo. On the doorstep she kinda made her way in, she got to talking about this and that and then mentioned that she wants to check my dick, I asked why? Then cited some BS reasons like I have not had a child, and I don't want my pussy to get loose etc bla bla, she wasn't exactly a spinner so I didn't care if she decided to leave, while talking she suddenly pulled my pants down and did actually check size of johnny by giving it some analyzing looks it almost felt like she is acting like a customer LOL. Then she said she won't be able to do it with me, so she called 2 more girls, I chose a slim one out of them, decided figures of the deal. They asked and took all money in advance (I usually always strongly believe in paying after the deed, but since this was something new, I just went with it).

    The girl they left behind was ok, wasn't engaging in conversation or entertainment I was watching, I asked if she wanted to watch something on youtube answer was anything I want, plan was to have couple of beers and go for a bang after that, but while we were sipping beers I went in for long DFKs and she obliged obediently. She was a little passive so needed a nudge every now and then. Deed was done after some time, but time was agreed for a longer period. Post deed also her engagement in dialogue and other companion aspects was minimum, I was getting bored so asked her to leave an hour earlier, she asked for tip while leaving I gave her none as the sex was alright but everything else was meh. I had already paid 1 juta for 4 hours and she was leaving in 3 so I said no tips for you today and this is how my first michat encounter went.

  3. #22196
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]
    2 years ago I made this report about Ramadan.
    Holiday happens annually with a 10-day shift. Same questions come anually with the same answers. Easiest way is to search back as plenty of in-the-know posters like Future Guy have laid out the picture. If one depends on the public meat markets like Classic, IMHO best to skip as the scene will be dimished or unavailable. OTOH, last year I was in Jakarta smack in the middle of the holiday and all of my North Jakarta network girls were online from morning to night and hungry as ever to trade pussy for cash. Depends on your situation. AR.

  4. #22195

    Well my timing sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by Safado70  [View Original Post]
    I thought Ramadan is not the problem, only the week after Ramadan.
    LOL, I arrive on the last day of Ramadan, so my timing sucks, I guess I'll experience the holidays, it's not solely a mongering trip, but still, I might have to see if the online stuff works if places are closed.

  5. #22194
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]
    2 years ago I made this report about Ramadan. So yes: there are girls, in a reduced number. But also reduced number of customers. Meaning the ration of customer-to-girl is not too different from usual times.

    What could be the alternative to Jakarta during Ramadan? The prices are still the same. Maybe Bali is a better option, as it's not majorly Islamic? But many of the working girls in Bali are likely from other regions of Indonesia.
    I thought Ramadan is not the problem, only the week after Ramadan.

  6. #22193

    Ramadan

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]
    As posted previously: quite a few of the girls have family in different parts of Indonesia and will visit these places for most of Ramadan. It's like Thanks Giving and Christmas combined.

    Careful: many places will give the impression to be closed. But that's not necessarily true. E. g. The main entrance to the underground girls club at Travel Hotel is officially closed during Ramadan. However: there is a covert second entrance, not visible to the public. You have to ask the guards (using Google translate) about directions. The number of girls will be about half the usual number and most will arrive after sunset. As the girls are indeed strapped for cash just before and until late Ramadan, they are more eager to please (still the standard rate applies - 375 for covert sex).

    At Lokasari (7 minutes on foot from Travel) you will find the usual girls, as they are all local girls from North Jakarta. See my previous posts about that place. Prices are 400-450 for BBFS CIP (bring your own lubrication! Either you have your own hotel or you have to pay another 200 for that. I'm generally meeting these girls at my AirBnB and I'm attaching some pictures to give an impression of choices.
    2 years ago I made this report about Ramadan. So yes: there are girls, in a reduced number. But also reduced number of customers. Meaning the ration of customer-to-girl is not too different from usual times.

    What could be the alternative to Jakarta during Ramadan? The prices are still the same. Maybe Bali is a better option, as it's not majorly Islamic? But many of the working girls in Bali are likely from other regions of Indonesia.

  7. #22192

    Freelancer and local girls during Idul Fitri available?

    So apparently, all the brothels will be closed for a week (or 2?) during the Idul Fitri celebrations. How about freelancer, tinder girls and the few classic girls which are actually from Jakarta? In your experience, will they be completely busy with family activities or still available for some fun?

    I wonder if there is any point in staying in Jakarta during Idul Fitri.

  8. #22191

    Ramadan effect

    Gents.

    I am planning a trip in 2 weeks and I am hesitant to choose Jakarta because of Ramadan starting on 17th Feb.

    From the reports, it seems the number of girls will be less and the time will be restricted in all adult establishments.

    I would love to know. If the fall in girls headcount is big enough to warrant a change of destination? ?

  9. #22190

    Lokasari

    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldNe  [View Original Post]
    I know I skipped from Day 1 to 6, but since this was a casual walkabout I thought I will share it immediately, I will soon write my other day experiences also.

    I was in walking distance of Loksari square, so decided to check it out, overall the place is a good market square will all kinds of shops, hair salons, some massage options (which I may check out tomorrow), eating places, place is buzzing with people moving about their business, so it isn't a run down place or anything unlike what I had gathered from the posts here. The market square is surrounded by Olympic hotel (which by the looks of it is a 4-5 star hotel) and Luminor on the main road opening.

    As people have mentioned before here there are guys sitting bang opposite to KFC they will call you out and cannot go unnoticed, while I walked past them initially, one woman in hijab+mask+all covered came up to me and straightaway asked me for sex in hotel, I was a little taken aback but expected something like this and that is honestly why I went there to check out the offerings but had no intention to actually engage, this woman by her hand looked old (only her hand was visible), she offered FS for 300 k. Then I went to another lane where there were few massage places, one of them had the whole sauna, 90 minutes massage, hot / cold pool etc for 250 k (I intend to check this place tomorrow). On my way out I engaged with the KFC guys they showed me one decent looking girl who was standing right there (400ST, 1 M LT, I got the sense that this is negotiable), but I asked them to share more pics on WA, in retrospect this seemed like a mistake as these guys turned out to be very pushy, kept calling on WA, sent a few pics I personally did not like anyone from the pics, then they video called to show someone, I rejected told them to share photo only. While I came out of the square and started walking on the main street one middle aged lady also approached me first I thought she was selling something in her hand, but later she mentioned massage, boom chika boom and all the other keywords that pointed to the obvious for 200 k.

    There are couple of alcohol stores in the square if anyone wants to buy Whiskey or any other hard liquor, there were few promos running as well but it was nothing that I would not get back at home, so I just bought one different offering that I found I. E. Sapporo beer (Japanese). Most of the offers were for Whiskey bottles and Soju etc.
    Pre-pandemic Lokasari used to be a fun place. Due to an upgrading of the area, the hangout spots got lost. Nowadays you can find girls, somewhat older, either hidden away or at the open street bars between KFC and Hotel Prinsen Park. You have to deal with mamasans. Just keep in mind the price points: takeout to your hotel in Northern Jakarta is 400-500 for about one hour. You can send the girls back alone (she will carry a smartphone for contact with the mama). If you do it at Lokasari you should not pay more than 500-600 including the Hotel room for 1-2 hours (organized by the mama). Be prepared, that these are crappy hotel rooms around the area.

    However, it's best if you just collect the girls Whatsapp number at your first meeting (for the Americans: nobody uses Apple Chat). Talk to them by Google Translate Voice-to-Text. In the future you will meet the girl and her friends from Lokasari directly at your hotel, no involvement of Mamasan. Price point is still 400-500 per girl. As the mama is not taking her share of 150-200, this still means they are very happy to meet you. They can bring other Lokasari girls along for 3 somes. Of course, ask them to send a short video of the girl before you arrive.

    All prices BBFS (unless you stink, have a neckbeard etc. - so just be well groomed), about 70% of girls agree to video sessions for 400 tip.

  10. #22189

    Love This!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    "Bro code" - You snooze; you lose. I arrived at T2, walked passed the mamas, checked out every girl, made a list of top 3, suddenly a mama called her girls to a table. My Number 1 was in that group. Fuck bro code. I walked to the table as the girls were surrounding two guys. I tapped the mama on the shoulder and pointed to my Number 1. Mama directed Number 1 to follow me. Two hours. She was 100% GFE and also gave me an outstanding massage for about 30 minutes.
    Fucking love this! Bold!

    I can count on one hand my buds that qualify for Bros before hos. 98% I'm hos before bros!

    Absolutely bold power move. Love it.

  11. #22188
    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldNe  [View Original Post]
    Out of nowhere a girl came and sat in front of me (after asking me if she could sit), she had come in with another customer but she struck my fancy like no one else did that night, I have not felt that striking attraction with anybody of late, but alas she was with another customer and went to room eventually with him after some time. I still took the initiative to ask her for her name while her customer was chatting with another friend. I did not want to appear rude to make advances at a girl who someone had already chose (bro code! first) but kept her name in my mind as a bookmark to visit soon again.


    I went rushing to her like a school boy before someone else snatched her while trying to appear composed as a customer in Classic should be, man she was the sweetest girl to talk to, and I got her to my table, we sat down, I told her how I have waited for her…..
    "Bro code" - You snooze; you lose. I arrived at T2, walked passed the mamas, checked out every girl, made a list of top 3, suddenly a mama called her girls to a table. My Number 1 was in that group. Fuck bro code. I walked to the table as the girls were surrounding two guys. I tapped the mama on the shoulder and pointed to my Number 1. Mama directed Number 1 to follow me. Two hours. She was 100% GFE and also gave me an outstanding massage for about 30 minutes.

  12. #22187
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Are they allowed to visit me in my room at Classic Hotel?
    Your question has been answered numerous times and within the last 2-3 months. Read the forum.

  13. #22186
    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldNe  [View Original Post]
    Michat seems to work with people nearby option, most of the prospects will either message you immed. themselves or respond to your messages promptly. I just window shopped through it everyday and prima facie seemed like a lot of good and economical options also, but I don't like to go through the ordeal of vetting out strangers on say a tea / coffee and then calling them to my room if they qualify, so I didn't venture into this territory. The girl from Classic who was staying with me advised me against using Michat, she said it is not good, I did not fully understand her reasons for saying so but I figured it maybe something to do with scams.

    Anybody who has used it can chime in with their thoughts here.
    Good reports from you here, so allow me to give something back.

    No need for tea or coffee on michat. You are not dating. Unlike tinder/bumble/etc., it's all hookers on michat, and in most cases, though not all, you are not even talking with the girl herself, but to some man / woman the girls seem to call "admin".

    1: agree on price.

    2: do not give your real name or room number. Only name of hotel. If asked for photo of room card, send that, but not the part that shows the room number.

    3: video call before agreeing to meet. In 95% of the cases, there will be some problems arranging that, or you will be disappointed with how she actually looks, and things will end there. Since michat does not support video call, you need to prepare a dedicated monger whatsapp number for this, so that you can enable / disable / mute that number when not looking for p4p.

    4: agree to meet in lobby of hotel (or somewhere nearby outside perhaps, if you are too shy for lobby).

    5: video call again from your room when she's arrived in the lobby. Half the time, it will be somebody else, but funnily enough, they may still look just as good. I've had a handful of threesomes via michat, and one time the photos were of a pair of girls I remembered having banged before once, so I didn't bother verifying beforehand, assuming it would be the same two girls. Who turned up were two completely different girls, but who looked about the same on the 1-10 scale, so it turned out ok anyway.

    6: if the girl is decent and you think you may want to repeat, ask for her whatsapp so you can contact her directly later. The admin account may or may not be working when you contact it again later, and the girl they send then may or may not be the same. Plus the girl will get the whole fee herself that way, so in her best interest too.

    If you do not video call, be prepared to go up and down to the lobby a dozen times before, only maybe, somebody resembling their photo and looking half decent will turn up. I'm not a fan of video calling random hookers, so didn't do that the first few days I used michat, but it was a time wasting mistake, even if I was just relaxing or working in my room while waiting to go down to the lobby and reject the strange woman who was waiting for me there.

    Price:
    - normally 300-400 for one girl, up to 500. A handful rejected and wanted 600-800, but I didn't bother with them. Most I paid was 500 I'm pretty sure.
    - 800 for two girls (make it clear before booking that you want two shots in this case, if that is what you want), or I guess 700 would also be accepted, but didn't bother trying. 800 was quickly accepted in all cases.

    BTW: one of the girls I met from michat was also working at Classic, though I'd never choose her in a Classic line-up. A 5 at best lookwise, though personality and service was good. I blame low-res video for this.

  14. #22185
    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldNe  [View Original Post]
    Michat seems to work with people nearby option, most of the prospects will either message you immed. themselves or respond to your messages promptly. I just window shopped through it everyday and prima facie seemed like a lot of good and economical options also, but I don't like to go through the ordeal of vetting out strangers on say a tea / coffee and then calling them to my room if they qualify, so I didn't venture into this territory. The girl from Classic who was staying with me advised me against using Michat, she said it is not good, I did not fully understand her reasons for saying so but I figured it maybe something to do with scams.

    Anybody who has used it can chime in with their thoughts here.
    Michat, WeChat and all the other chat apps, that allow you to use the nearby function. Yes, you can get lots of girls to come to your hotel or apartment. The problem is 95% of the time the girl you think is coming based on her picture does not actually show up because it was bait and switch! So as long as you are comfortable getting ANY girl to show up rather than the girl you actually want, then go for it.

  15. #22184
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    So the girl has big baby damage, gave a covered BJ and was not much into you and all of that for 1.5 M and you still think it was worth it?

    I hope their 1.9 M girl are much better than their "bargained" girls for that price.
    Some guys like to get fucked these days it s obvious.

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