Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

[Rick Rock]

Yeah but those are Japanese traveling abroad, and some of them do have money. The average guy in Japan is flat broke. It's getting worse every time I visit Japan.

Any tourist in Japan is way richer on average than guys in his home country. Even those from poor countries have plenty of money to spend, because they're not the poor ones.

I think it's like anything else. There are classes in every country. A Japanese pal of mine just took me to a very expensive yaki niku restaurant in his G-Class. The bill was shocking. Multiple times the most I have ever paid for food in my life.

But some friends in America, the world's top economy, have been complaining about the price of milk.

So just depends.

[Traveler X]

Maybe depends who you ask. In Bangkok a lot of girls prefer to go with Japanese guys than white guys, because they spend more money.

Yeah but those are Japanese traveling abroad, and some of them do have money. The average guy in Japan is flat broke. It's getting worse every time I visit Japan.

Any tourist in Japan is way richer on average than guys in his home country. Even those from poor countries have plenty of money to spend, because they're not the poor ones.

[Rick Rock]

Had some time in Osaka and didn't want to deal with trying to figure out a totally new (to me) place. So I went with the reliable THC. First time using them in Osaka. Actually I think it was even a little easier. If that's even possible.

Contacted on WeChat to see who was available on short notice. I took Sai, age 23. https://hentai-osaka.com/profile?cc=2669 I am shallow so my choice was based on the shape of her ass and her age. Turned out the age seemed to be accurate and her ass is like the photo. So it was a win for me.

Sai showed up on time at my hotel. I brought her up in the elevator. She was very pretty and had a look of sophistication. Sai speaks English well, but I only found out a few minutes in after breaking the ice. She is somehow a little bashful but also a real thoroughbred in bed.

In the shower she seemed to really unleash and got naughty fast. Her body rocks! Perfectly shaped rack, bubble butt, firm legs, completely shaved everywhere. All natural body with no tats or cigarette smell. Very pretty cat eyes, and a cute smile. She might be a little short maybe or probably more like average for Japan. Depends on your taste. For me this is a plus. I like smaller Asian babes. Especially if they have the meat in the right places to go with it.

Sai used my body like a jungle gym, and really worked me over. What a change from the opening few minutes when she seemed so demure. She offered basically everything on the menu and I was happy to partake.

We did BBBJ, DATY, 69 (great lips, top and bottom), rimming, denma play, sumata and at the end I shot all over her face. Paid for the photo option and I saved it for the end so I could get pics of her covered with my load.

Wasn't sure how it was going to turn out being away from Tokyo. For 36,000 why it was definitely worth the spend, and I was glad I made the choice. Thinking I should have taken the anal fuck option but on the other hand I have this great memory of my jizz ruining her makeup which is awesome.

[Rick Rock]

In no other first world country would this not be considered gambling.

In most other first world countries, and a lot of 3rd world ones too, gambling is totally legal.

But your point remains relevant. It's right up there with porn that censors vagina and penis, prostitution that allows anal but not vaginal, and places where you pay for a drink but just happen to get a free BJ.

Different place, different way of thinking. It helps to adjust. It doesn't matter so much what the official reasons are, just look at the reality of what is happening.

They know we have the money. They hear stories of girls going abroad and getting 50% to 100% more.

Maybe depends who you ask. In Bangkok a lot of girls prefer to go with Japanese guys than white guys, because they spend more money.

[Traveler X]

In the past I rarely saw Japanese streetwalkers, perhaps because they can get work in shops (unlike foreign tourists). I prefer a longer, multi-shot session, which is something that can be negotiated more easily face to face.

The rates upper-tier women get in North America and Europe is impressive and quite a bit more than Japanese women get hourly (except those who cater to foreign men or are top class soap ladies).

Japanese people including their women do not want any trouble with the law. Streetwalkers are at risk of arrest. So for most women, that's for dirty thai and filipino women to risk. It is only some desperate women forced by hosts that will stand on the street, and it so limited that half of that in the entire country happens in one street of Kabukicho. When women work at Tobita, they use solid loopholes and nobody bothers them. It has never been illegal to have sex with people 'you know', so at Tobita you pay the girl to entertain you (100% legal) and she serves you a snack (100% legal), then you go where nobody can see and bang (100% legal).

I used to be obsessed with Japan and even living there when I was younger. So I studied Japanese legal customs long ago, and unlike the US there is no such thing as probable cause. Japanese police must have a warrant to raid a place, they cannot raid based on suspicion (ex. They hear noises or just assume the obvious). It is a trope in drama where the villain criminal laughs at the helpless police asking where their warrant is, go fetch it. No matter how obvious the criminal makes it clear they did it (using innuendo rather than direct admission). The only exception is a crime in progress that the police personally witnesses with their own two eyes. What happens in the back is none of the law's business without a warrant. And I'm pretty sure I can cum before a judge would approve one (I don't "take all day" right).

Hope this clear ups why Japan has such ridiculously flimsy loopholes. The pachinko loophole is even more ridiculous. Someone insisted I go pachinko with them, which is "not gambling" since you "can't win money". Well somehow I won tray after tray of metal balls. I literally did not want them but he was jumping with joy. We turned them in, you can buy prizes with your balls. Oh wait, one of the prizes is an IC card, we'll buy two of them labeled '10000 en' each. I asked what it's for. He explained it becomes money. We leave the pachinko parlor and go NEXT DOOR to a tiny window in the wall. A place where they just fucking love to collect these IC cards, they're willing to pay money for them as 'collector items'. For exactly what the pachinco shop said! Wow, how convenient. In no other first world country would this not be considered gambling.

That to me blows away the Tobita example because we are talking blatantly obvious gambling here, which is officially illegal. Hope this helps.

Top shelf women in the US are $320 to $350 an hour. There is heavy competition keeping it there, though some corgs push $500 pricing for a few girls. But those very same girls will come to my shop and then charge $320 again. I have hours of video and photographic proof.

Of course, the base rate is not what matters, they can charge $100 for bb and $200 for video. At some corgs they even charge $100 or $200 for cip which is ridiculous. Korgs never allow that (separate upcharge for cip). Of course, they are competing with top shelf girls who are $320 bb inclusive. Including kgirls, thai, viet, cgirls. Two of the girls I banged are literal models. Most models do not get paid enough let's just say. I have to keep that secret but once again there is proof, it's not just some marketing claim. Competition is wonderful.

I still encourage people to sample Japan because there is a lot of fun to be had. You are right a lot of places recently have added gaijin taxes. Even Kira Kira that I visited in July was not gaijin taxed, but now is. They know we have the money. They hear stories of girls going abroad and getting 50% to 100% more.

[Lion]

The RLDs are cheap for what they offer. Pretty girls you can choose on the spot. The gaijin tax is pretty small compared to other FS options. If you take a freewalker, you pay for the love hotel which works out to something under 4000 yen anyways. So a tax either way.

Kanto no longer has these "pick a girl you see on the spot" options. I watched them bulldoze the glass houses one area after another. Even met the mayor of Yokohama who personally vowed to bulldoze them as an election promise, then saw him follow through. I went to many of them before they were gone. It's a similar concept to Tobita except they were Amsterdam-styled with full length windows you could see and pick the girls. No mamasan, the girls handled it all themselves. Ichiman for about 15 minutes.

Unless you really don't like Japanese girls, there isn't much advantage to foreign streetwalkers. One group of Thai women hung around love hotels near Koganecho of Yokohama. Up to you of course, hope that helps.

So the one true thing is foreigner customers tend to be wealthier on average. And there are indeed always going to be a few Japanese customers with bad hygene and disgusting. But it's a wash since there are going to be bad foreign customers too, except with the language barrier it's harder to solve.

Everything else is pretty silly. First, there are a TON of foreigner friendly soapland and delivery health now. More than before Covid-19. Also, many shops ban Indian customers, some of whom treat SWs the way they do back home. It takes just a handful of guys to ruin it for everyone else, sorry.

What I have encountered is the Japanese assumption that "richer" customers are "better". When I saw Elsa in the US, she had worked NYC where she was used to $400 to $500 rates per hour. When she worked West Coast, the house rate was $320 for an hour. I noticed she was nervous and later she confessed the lower ate made her scared, like poor bums were going to show up knocking. But she saw it was the opposite, the rate had little to do with customer quality / behavior. The branch I saw her at mainly screens just professionals, so a fair share of rich customers. Her top customer dropped $1600 on repeat visits plus upgrades like video. Due to the wild menu options available, the base rate isn't what really matters. So these assumptions can be deceiving. Good customers come at every price range.

I know so many guys here are into fs shops, but for everything else I've written a detailed guide based on my travels in Japan. 90% of it applies to all of Japan. I spend most of my time at the mid-level shops like oppai pubs where it is dirt cheap for fun.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2946666

Just to give the most extreme example, there were strip clubs in Japan where handjobs started at 2000 yen ($13). Like, a few bucks more than Thailand ($5-$10). Blowjobs were double at 4000 yen ($26). It isn't the most fair example because the shop is a strip club where most customers pay the entry fee, so they already made their profit with most customers watching the show and leaving. These are just upcharge options if you see a stripper you liked. Which is what made them so cheap. The girls would give you 5 minutes on a busy day, or 10 minutes on a slow day. I once went 3 times in a row to see the same girl one morning, and she gave me a funny look of recognition but was sucking me off once again. Ah, to be young:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2928099

Some great advice there.

The foreigner-friendly deriherusu seem to be either adding a gaijin tax. Calling a place and using decent Japanese I can get the regular price, but it can be hit or miss regarding the quality of the girl and how much effort she puts out.

In the past I rarely saw Japanese streetwalkers, perhaps because they can get work in shops (unlike foreign tourists). I prefer a longer, multi-shot session, which is something that can be negotiated more easily face to face.

The rates upper-tier women get in North America and Europe is impressive and quite a bit more than Japanese women get hourly (except those who cater to foreign men or are top class soap ladies).

[Traveler X]

I have been reading about more and more foreign women (and Japanese too) appearing in the Yokohama / Tokyo pickup areas. Apparently some prefer non-Japanese clients as they know they won't be undercover cops.

Curious whether anyone has seen a similar situation in Osaka.

Osaka / Kobe / Kyoto is frustrating as service is either on the older end of spectrum or with an added gaijin surcharge.

The red light districts are an easy solution, but time is quite short unless you splash out a bundle.

The RLDs are cheap for what they offer. Pretty girls you can choose on the spot. The gaijin tax is pretty small compared to other FS options. If you take a freewalker, you pay for the love hotel which works out to something under 4000 yen anyways. So a tax either way.

Kanto no longer has these "pick a girl you see on the spot" options. I watched them bulldoze the glass houses one area after another. Even met the mayor of Yokohama who personally vowed to bulldoze them as an election promise, then saw him follow through. I went to many of them before they were gone. It's a similar concept to Tobita except they were Amsterdam-styled with full length windows you could see and pick the girls. No mamasan, the girls handled it all themselves. Ichiman for about 15 minutes.

Unless you really don't like Japanese girls, there isn't much advantage to foreign streetwalkers. One group of Thai women hung around love hotels near Koganecho of Yokohama. Up to you of course, hope that helps.

Looks like a good option for wealthy visitors, but truly foreigner friendly as in high fees. Note they even mention 'stupid' foreigners give tips in addition to overpaying!

This is a rare foreigner specialty store in Shinjuku! We only target wealthy foreigners, so our customer base is GOOD! In the current COVID-19 pandemic, many stores that accepted foreigners have withdrawn, but our store has consistently maintained its style as a foreigner specialty store. As a result, our store has almost the entire share of foreigners staying in Japan, and foreign customers who used other stores in the same industry before COVID-19 are now concentrated in our store. Foreign customers will not do anything unreasonable or unpleasant!! The majority of them are gentlemen rather than Japanese people!

So the one true thing is foreigner customers tend to be wealthier on average. And there are indeed always going to be a few Japanese customers with bad hygene and disgusting. But it's a wash since there are going to be bad foreign customers too, except with the language barrier it's harder to solve.

Everything else is pretty silly. First, there are a TON of foreigner friendly soapland and delivery health now. More than before Covid-19. Also, many shops ban Indian customers, some of whom treat SWs the way they do back home. It takes just a handful of guys to ruin it for everyone else, sorry.

What I have encountered is the Japanese assumption that "richer" customers are "better". When I saw Elsa in the US, she had worked NYC where she was used to $400 to $500 rates per hour. When she worked West Coast, the house rate was $320 for an hour. I noticed she was nervous and later she confessed the lower ate made her scared, like poor bums were going to show up knocking. But she saw it was the opposite, the rate had little to do with customer quality / behavior. The branch I saw her at mainly screens just professionals, so a fair share of rich customers. Her top customer dropped $1600 on repeat visits plus upgrades like video. Due to the wild menu options available, the base rate isn't what really matters. So these assumptions can be deceiving. Good customers come at every price range.

I know so many guys here are into fs shops, but for everything else I've written a detailed guide based on my travels in Japan. 90% of it applies to all of Japan. I spend most of my time at the mid-level shops like oppai pubs where it is dirt cheap for fun.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2946666

Just to give the most extreme example, there were strip clubs in Japan where handjobs started at 2000 yen ($13). Like, a few bucks more than Thailand ($5-$10). Blowjobs were double at 4000 yen ($26). It isn't the most fair example because the shop is a strip club where most customers pay the entry fee, so they already made their profit with most customers watching the show and leaving. These are just upcharge options if you see a stripper you liked. Which is what made them so cheap. The girls would give you 5 minutes on a busy day, or 10 minutes on a slow day. I once went 3 times in a row to see the same girl one morning, and she gave me a funny look of recognition but was sucking me off once again. Ah, to be young:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2928099

[Lion]

This could be in both the Tokyo and Osaka, but take a look at GFE Japan in Kawasaki. I made a visit there this past week, and had a great time. As I was leaving the front desk workers (all were Pinay but the providers were all Japanese) proceeded to hand me a discount card for their Osaka location. I guess it will be opening up soon. I of course didn't take it with me, don't need that kind of evidence laying around the house for the Mrs. Dr. To find. But check out GFE Japan and their Osaka branch. Truly foreigner friendly.

Looks like a good option for wealthy visitors, but truly foreigner friendly as in high fees. Note they even mention 'stupid' foreigners give tips in addition to overpaying!

Here is their recruitment advert:

This is a rare foreigner specialty store in Shinjuku! We only target wealthy foreigners, so our customer base is GOOD! In the current COVID-19 pandemic, many stores that accepted foreigners have withdrawn, but our store has consistently maintained its style as a foreigner specialty store. As a result, our store has almost the entire share of foreigners staying in Japan, and foreign customers who used other stores in the same industry before COVID-19 are now concentrated in our store. Foreign customers will not do anything unreasonable or unpleasant!! The majority of them are gentlemen rather than Japanese people! Since you will be serving foreigners, we will give preference to those who can speak English!! The unit price of the salary is also quite high, so we welcome those who want to earn a lot or earn a high income in a short period of time!! We look forward to seeing you with the best treatment in the industry! We will definitely provide you with an easy-to-work environment. First of all, please feel free to contact us.

Girls get 100% of the "option" add-ONS, plus these rates:
60分x1&;15000円.

90分x1&;21000円.

[Lion]

I have been reading about more and more foreign women (and Japanese too) appearing in the Yokohama / Tokyo pickup areas. Apparently some prefer non-Japanese clients as they know they won't be undercover cops.

Curious whether anyone has seen a similar situation in Osaka.

Osaka / Kobe / Kyoto is frustrating as service is either on the older end of spectrum or with an added gaijin surcharge.

The red light districts are an easy solution, but time is quite short unless you splash out a bundle.

Delivery Health can be great but is always a bit of a gamble.

[Pompy090]

Went to thc but didn't end up taking their girl. Better option is to go to a soapie there are many in dotombori near the lane next to hotel 88 shinsaibashi. There's a different rate for foreigners ie straightaway adding 10 k yen to the actual rate. The service is quite decent with mat play and wash. New experience for someone who's never tried this.

[Enter The V]

Very interesting how different mongering is is other cultures.

Its called freedom something America doesn't have.

[LucBlake]

Matsushima Sinchi (2 experiences):

Young beautiful women but distant, subpar, rushed and pricey service: no BBBJ, CBJ only when BJ. Almost no kissing. Mechanical. I'm taking it that despite being welcomed by the mamasan, the women were not that eager at servicing a foreigner, especially a non-white foreigner. I read reports in another website "Tokyo Adult Guide" that some women named Rina and Rio provide good service to foreigners.

Fukuhara soaplands and Osaka delivery health:

Only the old and less desirable ladies seem to be willing to give good service to foreigners. If you get a younger lady, they tend to be mechanical and have restrictions such as no BJ, no kissing or no BBBJ.

Conclusion: Rather save my money for trips to Bangkok. Better selection, cheaper and the soaplands there work pretty much like the Japanese ones. They have bathhubs, nuru gel and inflatable mats for mat play.

Very interesting how different mongering is is other cultures.

[Enter The V]

Mitsuki from Profile-Deli https://www.dto.jp/official/gal/3610269.

Booking was smooth in English using Line. They use a translation service to chat on Line.

Girl physically looks like the photos, except her skin is darker in real life. She can understand and speak a little bit of English. Shy girl attitude.

Basic service as per Profile Deli's website includes deep kissing, BBBJ (raw blowjob) and CIM (mouth firing).

I only got shallow kisses for a short time, I got BBBJ but not a very skilled one. It was one of those shallow BJs with one of her hands gripping the base and the other holding her hair away and I'm pretty much only seeing the too of her head and can't easily see her face. I had to repeatedly direct her on how to do it better..

I wonder if Osaka has the pink salons BBBJ bars like in Tokyo?

[Baygon01]

Mitsuki from Profile-Deli https://www.dto.jp/official/gal/3610269.

Booking was smooth in English using Line. They use a translation service to chat on Line.

Girl physically looks like the photos, except her skin is darker in real life. She can understand and speak a little bit of English. Shy girl attitude.

Basic service as per Profile Deli's website includes deep kissing, BBBJ (raw blowjob) and CIM (mouth firing).

I only got shallow kisses for a short time, I got BBBJ but not a very skilled one. It was one of those shallow BJs with one of her hands gripping the base and the other holding her hair away and I'm pretty much only seeing the too of her head and can't easily see her face. I had to repeatedly direct her on how to do it better.

As for CIM (included in basic play as per their website), she was trying to avoid it by switching to HJ when she sensed that I was close to cumming but that only contributed to delaying my orgasm or deflating my erection. Since I understood that she was trying to avoid CIM, I gave it to her by surprise by playing it like I was not yet close to cumming. She pulled out my dick after she got the first squirts of cum in her mouth.

Only the old women that I had via a different Osaka delivery service and Wedding Bell Fukuhara would take a full on CIM and keep me in until I finish cumming.

[Baygon01]

How was her pussy though matsushima? May I ask what race are you? As why the girl seem distant.

Beautiful young women. But I couldn't get it up on the 2 occasions due to the feeling of being rushed, lack of engagement and lack of BBBJ. So I didn't get the chance to give the literal pussy a run drive. I'm Latino.