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  1. #13845

    Tokyo. Day 2

    In the same location as Treasure Box is a club that operates from 6 am to 2 pm called Jewelry Box. Yes, same exact club but apparently different owners. One operates during the morning and the other at night. Link below. Knowing all too well that I would likely get booted and refused entry, I decided to learn my lesson from my time with my Japanese friend. Upon being immediately turned away, I professed that I had been there the week before with my Japanese friend and that they promised to let me in if I came back. After a lot of back and forth and a phone call to my friend, they relented and actually let me into the club after a 15 minute hassle. Similar to Luxe, the club was not all that special and not worth the hassle. They gave me one girl that I had previously seen on their site. She looked NOTHING like her web site photos, but she was nice and provided good service. I believe I spent 13,000 yen ($85 USD) on my 40 minutes with this girl. They did not offer me another girl.

    I did learn something from my visit to Jewelry Box. The girls seem to love white men and have no problem with foreigners but the men that work there do. I was repeatedly told about it being difficult to communicate and foreigners walking out on their tabs. Personally, I just don't think these men want foreigners with their Japanese girls.

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11179/

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g...tail/o_113677/

    Upon leaving Jewelry Box, I walked around the corner to an odd place where all of the girls wear nurses outfits. Once again, immediately upon getting off the elevator I was told "Japanese Only" and refused service. Using the same technique as earlier, I simply lied and explained that I had been there before with my Japanese friend. They agreed to let me in if I paid upfront. Similar to Sweater Moon, you are escorted into a booth and they bring a girl of their choosing to you. My first two girls were very average but super nice. Good kissers, nice boobs and plenty of stick shifting. My third girl was very skinny but very ugly and had terrible body odor. Two minutes in I just had to stop her and told her I needed to leave. I did not put up any fuss and just decided to cut my losses and leave. I think I spent 10,000 yen here.

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11233/

    I decided at this point to make my way to Soapyland in Yoshiwara. I used the following web site as my guide. My friend had suggested Luxe, Versailles and Lavieen Rose to checkout.

    https://camikaze.cc/soapland/yoshiwara/

    https://camikaze.cc/wp-content/uploa...asoapland.webp

    I have been to so many places all over the world and have never seen a anything like soapyland in Yoshiwara. If you look at the map on this web site, you will see how many there are in this concentrated area. I started at Luxe and Casanova. I walked up and down the streets and probably went inside 15-20 places. Per the Camacaze web site, "Foreign visitors are welcome to the area, though discrimination based on ethnicity and possibly your Japanese comprehension may be faced. " This was exactly my experience. As a Caucasian American, I noticed that I was required to pay more for services, that discounts listed on their web sites were not available to me, some had a minimum time of 120 minutes, and there were limitations on the providers available / offered to me. I could go to a web site and see 10 or 15 girls scheduled, but only 2 would be offered to me. Versailles actually told me "no insertion" for foreign customers because foreigners are too big. I noticed that the prices ranged from 70,000 to 90,000 yen. Some accepted credit cards with a 20% surcharge and some were cash only.

    If you have been to places in Thailand, Vietnam, Jakarta, Manila, or Macau, you know that most places like this have a selection process. In Thailand many places use a "fish bowl" where spas in Macau bring out all of their girls for a lineup where the girls line up right in front of you. In Yoshiwara, they hand you an ipad or they present you with photos in a picture frame which you can tell are heavily edited. I was very tempted a few times to roll the dice and select a girl to try the experience, but I ultimately decided NOT to spend $600 and I returned to my hotel. Had they allowed me to select the girl that I really liked I might have done a session. I am sure there were some amazing girls in soapyland, but they were not available to me and they will not be available to you.

    After getting a little rest, I decided to make my way back to Ginza. My new Japanese friend messaged me that he was already at Vogue with one of his clients, but I told him that I planned to go to O to see the girl from the prior night.

    Upon getting off the 3rd floor and walking into O I was once again stopped almost immediately upon entering. I was told "Private Club" and "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners". To say they were hostile towards me would be understatement. Believing that I could work through this, I politely told them that I was there to see a lady that I had met the night before. I provided her name and they brought her out to the entrance. As I saw her walk towards me in the entry, she looked stunningly gorgeous and seemed happy to see me. She spoke some Japanese to the managers and I have no idea what she said. They then brought out a beautiful young lady that spoke perfect English. They asked me what I did for work. Oddly, once I told them what I did for work and the company I worked for, they smiled and handed me a portfolio that showed their prices. They told me that it would cost 100,000 yen to enter ($650 USD). When I told them that I was not planning to drink, they showed that it would cost 50,000 yen. I agreed to this and they escorted me to a table.

    While these places may not appeal to most of the readers on ISG, I think it is worth sharing what is offered in Tokyo. First, O is not a big club, but it is definitely highclass and they definitely cater to a much older clientele than Vogue. I saw many men in their 70's and 80's but the women were a step above the ladies at Vogue. These women were 10's! The lady I was there to see was not immediately available, so they had the English speaking lady join me. She was gorgeous too! I sat with her for about 45 minutes and got a really good education on these hostess clubs. These places are part of the Japanese culture. Beautiful young Japanese women work in these places and often marry their customers or they have arrangements / affairs with wealthy older Japanese men. I saw many women with designer handbags, expensive designer shoes, and expensive watches and diamond earrings. I asked this lady if her watch was a gift and she told me that most Japanese men do not buy gifts. She indicated she makes very good money working at O and she is able to buy nice things for herself. I asked if she saw customers outside of the club. She indicated that O closes at midnight and she will go out with men after the club closes. She did not proposition me, but it was clear that she was interested in seeing an American man. When I asked how much she typically charges to go out with a customer, she indicated that she will accept tips but she goes out with customers that are generous in the club.

    Eventually the lady I was there to see became available. She did not speak English but I was able to use Google translate with no problem. Once again, some readers might not care about spending money or time with a beautiful lady unless she offered sex, but this was actually an enjoyable experience. I get why my new Japanese friend and other Japanese men get addicted to these places. There was something sort of hypnotic about spending time with an extremely gorgeous woman and just having a delightful conversation. This woman was very honest and indicated that she was very conservative. She indicated that she does not leave the club with men and that is why I saw her leaving the club alone the night before. She indicated that some girls leave the club with customers but she did not typically do this.

    Okay, so while I am sitting with this gorgeous lady, the girl I met at Vogue the night before was blowing up my phone. Since it was approaching midnight and there was no way this beauty was leaving with me, I closed out my bill and she walked me to the elevator and gave me a warm embrace and thanked me for coming in.

    I took the elevator down to Vogue and was immediately greeted with the same "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners". Fully prepared, I pulled out my credit card receipt from the night before and was immediately escorted to a table. My girl from the night before was not immediately available so they had a lovely lady sit with me. Eventually the girl that had been blowing my phone up arrived at my table. She politely explained that a customer came in and purchased champagne and a vip room. She said would not be able to spend time with me and she was honest that she needed to go out with this customer once the club closed. For some reason this didn't bother me like my visit to Soapyland bothered me.

    I got the impression from all of these hostesses that they really do not have the freedom to pick and choose who they spend time with. I got the impression these girls are paid by the club to come into work and are brought over to customers by the hosts. If customers do not find the girl attractive and appealing, they are not asked to work again. If these girls are not able to get their customers to spend money on drinks or champagne, they do not make money and are not asked to work. I believe these girls get paid a commission on what they drink and what I drink. I got the impression that these girls are highly encouraged to go out with customers of the club to keep these customers coming in. Essentially, you come in and see me at work and I will go out with you after. Or, I will meet you for dinner before work if you come in and see me at the club after dinner. It is really about getting men hooked and coming into the club regularly. If a girl does not have a following of customers that spend money, she is not making money for the club and is not working there for long. I think the girl at O is so gorgeous and classy that she does not need to go out with customers to keep them coming in to see her.

    I do not know if a hostess club like the ones in Tokyo would be successful in any city in the USA, but there really is something appealing about the places I visited and I only visited two. It is so relaxing and enjoyable to spend time with these hostesses. I admit that I could get hooked too!

    As I was returning to my hotel, I decided to cut my visit to Tokyo short. I had satisfied my curiosity and realized that Tokyo just did not offer the same value that I look for. I booked a flight home for the next evening.

  2. #13844

    Spontaneous Tokyo Visit. Day 1

    This is going to be a tough post to write. I have long held a desire to check out the adult entertainment scene in Tokyo, but never had the city high on my list. Despite having numerous tried and tested international cities under my belt, I spontaneously booked a flight to Haneda to satisfy my curiosity of Tokyo. Since I have traveled all over Asia for business and seen Japanese men in adult venues acting like drunken sailors, I was apprehensive of what they might have available in their home country. Since I find Japanese women incredibly beautiful, my mission was to identify the most beautiful women in Tokyo.

    Arriving at HND and making my way through Immigration and Customs at terminal 3 was a breeze. I booked a stay at the Hyatt Regency Tokyo knowing that it was a short walk to Shinjuku and I had plenty of Hyatt points to burn. Fortunately, the Hyatt Regency is one of the stops using the Airport Limousine bus service. They have a kiosk right as you exit Customs to get your ticket and then you take the elevator down one level. It was about a 45 minute ride into Tokyo before I arrived at my hotel. I highly recommend this service. I think it was 1,400 yen each way.

    The first agenda item on my list was to check out the oppai clubs in Shinjuku. I would later learn that Japanese call these places "booby clubs". I used the following web site as my guide. My first stop was to the Treasure Box on the 10th floor of the Daikan Plaza (link below). As I got off the elevator, I was rudely met by a man telling me "Japanese Only" and redirecting me back to the elevator. Using Google Translate I did my best to make my case for entry, but he was clear "No Foreigner. Japanese Only" so I left.

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_list/c_shinjuku/

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11180/

    As I left the building I walked toward the action and stumbled upon a place that helps you book visits to these booby clubs in Shinjuku. I was told that most of the places in Shinjuku are Japanese only and there were only a few that were foreigner friendly. I was encouraged to check out a place called Sweater Moon. Link below. Since I was a foreigner, they required me to pay upfront and then escorted me down some stairs and into a small curtained booth. They served me a cold draft beer and a few moments later brought me a very average looking lady. She was someone passable if she was free, but not someone I would ever pay for. I spent about 20 minutes with her on my lap and then it was time for girl #2. This girl was not passable and I did my best to politely ask for another girl. The answer was a clear no. You get what they give you like it or not. I decided to cut my losses and leave.

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_10960/

    After leaving Sweater Moon I came upon another location that helps with booking these clubs. I told the guy my type and told him I wanted to go to Leicester. He made a call and then had one of his guys escort me to the club. Knowing where Leicester was and where I was being escorted, I asked where he was taking me. He pointed out Luxe was where they had booked me. Since I had heard about this place, I allowed him to take me in. Of course, they had me pre-pay. Luxe is not really luxurious and quite small. The seating is open but they did have some private vip rooms. Similar to the first place, the first girl was passable but the second girl was big and not attractive. They refused to offer me another girl and I decided to leave.

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11288/

    After 3 disappointments, I made my way to Leicester to see if they would allow me in. Similar to my first stop, there was no way they were letting me in their club. "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners" is what I was quickly coming to terms with. I couldn't bribe / tip these guys to let me in. They didn't care how much I was willing to spend, they were not letting a mid-age white guy from the USA in their club. You have to accept it, but it doesn't feel good to be not allowed into a club because of your race.

    https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11306/

    Given that my night wasn't going too well, I opted to take a taxi to 7th Heaven. I had heard that it was the closest thing to a western style strip club. Entry was 7,000 yen and that got you two drinks. Lap dances were 7,000 ($46 USD) in a private curtained booth. Oddly there were no Japanese girls. Most looked to be from Europe (the Cubans have not made their way to Japan yet! I saw one girl I liked and had her brought over to me. She put the heavy push for me to buy a bottle of champagne. She tried to convince me that I was required to buy her drinks so I might as well buy a bottle. A 15,000 ($100 USD) yen bottle got you one free lapdance so you are essentially paying 8,000 for the champagne. Not a great value, but my night wasn't going well so I agreed and then took this Romanian for a dance. Her dance was nothing too special so I only did one. I grabbed a seat near the stage and made some small talk with a Japanese guy that spoke perfect English. We agreed 7th Heaven was terrible. I explained that I was in Tokyo looking to see the most beautiful Japanese women. He suggested that we go to a hostess club in Ginza. He invited me to go and I accepted. He was paying for the taxi so why not.

    Arriving near the Ginza Grand Hotel, we arrived at a place called Vogue. Unlike the places in Shinjuku that I previously visited, we were warmly greeted due to me being escorted by a Japanese man. Vogue was a very luxurious club with absolutely gorgeous women. My new Japanese friend told me there was no touching, but it might be possible to bring the girl back to my hotel at the end of their shift. Since I had been to KTVs in China, I sort of knew how these clubs worked, but Tokyo is much different. It was clear as a foreigner that I was not taking my favorite girl back to my hotel on my first visit. My new friend wasn't able to get his girl to go with him either. He did share how addicting these places are for Japanese men and that he probably spent millions of yen at these places. A good girl can easily make a lonely Japanese man fall in love with her and have him coming in night after night in the hopes of eventually getting her to go out with him. Frankly, I had a great time at Vogue and my time flew by. Total damage was 101,000 yen (about $662) for our drinks and the time with the girls. Was this a good value. Absolutely not!

    Upon leaving Vogue, I was educated on this area of Tokyo. I saw tons of men leaving clubs with gorgeous women. My new friend shared with me that this street was lined with clubs similar to Vogue. While he claimed Vogue was one of the top hostess clubs, he showed me how the clubs lined the street and how the drivers for wealthy Japanese businessmen stand along the sidewalk waiting for their bosses to exit the clubs with a lady before going to a love hotel. He explained that these men regularly go to these clubs and spend a lot of money. The girls leave the clubs with their regular customers. These Japanese men go into these hostess clubs and the hostesses often go out with their customers after work to keep them coming in. Please note, I never had a girl solicit me to leave the club for money or offer me sex.

    As we were standing along the sidewalk outside Vogue, the most gorgeous woman I have ever seen was walking towards us. It was clear she was leaving her work at a club, so I asked my new friend to go up to her and ask where she worked and to get her name. It turned out that she worked at O which was on the 3rd floor above where Vogue was. I told the girl that I was going to be in the next night to see her.

    Given my lack of sleep, I decided to call it a night and made my way back to the Hyatt. End of Day 1.

  3. #13843
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    Japan is a bit unusual in that pretty much everything is paid up front. On the other hand it's pretty rare to get ripped off in Japan. Never happened to me in 20 years of visiting.

    At a soapland you are going to get wash, nuru, BBBJ, FS (covered or uncovered). Differences between places are:

    - Price.

    - Cleanliness.

    - Quality of girl.

    - Quality of service.
    Thanks RR. Very helpful. Sounds like soaplands catering to foreigners might be place to focus.

    With the exception of maybe one response from a busy body member without a life and nothing better to do than give personal opinions (hunter) I appreciate the input from members of the board. Japan trip is booked in March! I'll continue research and report after trip. Cheers.

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  5. #13841
    I've only frequented a few shops here and the price on website was always tax-inclusive, including at THC. Amateur Tokyo was the only one where the final price I got was different, but still went ahead.

    Won't name the girl, hasn't been reviewed here but I looked at their Japanese page (Shibuya Garden AFAIR) for reviews on the girls. I only talk of extras with the girl directly so hadn't taken CIM option while booking but she gave BBBJ anyway without asking. Sex is 10 k.

    Their Japanese page also doesn't mention that prices are tax-exclusive (different prices though).

  6. #13840
    Quote Originally Posted by John557  [View Original Post]
    Booked a 2 h outcall from amateurtokyo.com few weeks ago, wanted to give a heads up which I haven't seen detailed yet on the forum. 10% tax is charged on the prices listed on the website, this is not the credit card surcharge, this is even for cash. But they removed the admission fee 2 k.

    So for a Shinjuku 2 h outcall, it was 34 + 2 choice + 2 delivery plus 10% tax on all this, total 41.8 k.

    Girl was nice, as expected.
    AFAIK, every place in Tokyo charges the consumption tax.

    Who was the girl? What did she do? BBBJ or more?

  7. #13839

    AmateurTokyo

    Booked a 2 h outcall from amateurtokyo.com few weeks ago, wanted to give a heads up which I haven't seen detailed yet on the forum. 10% tax is charged on the prices listed on the website, this is not the credit card surcharge, this is even for cash. But they removed the admission fee 2 k.

    So for a Shinjuku 2 h outcall, it was 34 + 2 choice + 2 delivery plus 10% tax on all this, total 41.8 k.

    Girl was nice, as expected.

  8. #13838
    Here's another good find in Tokyo:

    Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/system.

    In room massage, and they are pretty quick and hassle free about setting it up. No need to show ID, have a Japanese phone number, or any of that annoying stuff that so many places require. Also foreign friendly and English speaking.

    I was able to get a nice Japanese women in her 20's sent to my hotel in about 2 hours. She was English speaking. Tight clothes. Lots of flirting and joking around. She never got naked. Not that kind of place. But after a really good massage she flipped me over and worked a nice load out of me.

    60 minutes was 20000 Yen, no delivery fee or tipping.

    The website says "no sexual services" but I ended up getting a world class hand job with nuru lotion on my first try. Is this the norm? YMMV.

  9. #13837
    Quote Originally Posted by CCRider1008  [View Original Post]
    Is the 55000 fee paid upfront?

    Is there ability to negotiate addons with girl in private, or is the whole experienced pretty much scripted from girl perspective (was, bbj, covered sex, wash. Repeat for next guy)?
    Japan is a bit unusual in that pretty much everything is paid up front. On the other hand it's pretty rare to get ripped off in Japan. Never happened to me in 20 years of visiting.

    At a soapland you are going to get wash, nuru, BBBJ, FS (covered or uncovered). Differences between places are:

    - Price.

    - Cleanliness.

    - Quality of girl.

    - Quality of service.

  10. #13836
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
    https://casanova-soapland.com/

    I made initial contact over WhatsApp. Everything in English. They suggested making an appointment. I asked to visit in 2 days. A Friday afternoon. They said it was fine. I made arrangements to meet Asuka.
    Wonderful, thanks for confirming another place as foreigner friendly. That's the trend now with the exchange rate, economy, and with COVID restrictions fully lifted (Apr 29 2023). More places are paying attention to the inbound market. More places are also adding a foreigner tax, which we don't like, but at least identifies the place as opening its doors. The higher end places do have better girls on average, especially DH where you can pick a girl matching your type.

    I believe as this market share slowly grows, competition will moderate the tax. It seems to range from 5000 yen to 15000 yen in most places I've checked. Some small tax does makes sense for the added risk they take, and the labor to service non-Japanese speakers. Time will tell, I expect in 1-3 years more and more places will turn and drive down that tax to something reasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by CCRider1008  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I can go back to Thailand only for the 5th time now, but it's becoming harder to explain to family and friends. After getting back from Brazil they're starting to figure out I travel to sex tourist.
    This video was made for you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctDjnG8J9cY

    Quote Originally Posted by CCRider1008  [View Original Post]
    I don't think I've been to a place (6 punting countries and counting) that isn't welcoming of foreigners. Sort of odd to me.

    1. Is there enough foreigner friendly soaplands and escort services (health delivery) with quality and friendly girls? Or it this just one big hassle with disappointing results?

    2. Is any foreigner able to get "raw" (bareback) sex from these venues even if they pay a little more? Yes, I'm polite, clean, well dressed, friendly, clean cut.
    Japan has had COVID restrictions since Apr 2020 to Apr 2023, and even after they were lifted tourism spots were not properly trained or staffed let alone all flights available. They have just barely recovered perhaps 1 year ago after being depressed for over 3 years. Business are still getting used to the idea of servicing inbound tourists again. The exchange rate has made Japan more attractive, and thereby soaplands more open but also greedy. There are now many options for you that have been posted that are foreigner friendly, some fully English friendly.

    From a friend, I will try out this one next year. It has a hefty foreigner tax of 15,000 but I don't care since it has a few girls I want to see.
    https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html English page (it is a single page with everything summarized).
    https://gingira.jp/system.html Japanese page explaining just the system. Scroll down and you'll see 2 ad videos showing you what you get. Wonderful.
    https://www.img-bank.net/gingira/mov...n%E5%A4%A7.mp4 Link to one video with Nanase.
    https://gingira.jp/profile/NANASE Nanase's profile.

    The most important thing about Gingira is I know they use legit ads for the girls. Specifically, I know two of the girls actually look better than their ad. That's how it should be, people aren't going to be disappointed that way and will come back. Cannot say that of the majority of other shops I've tried (though in Japan it is usually close). And of course I can't vouch for any but those two but that's a good sign that it's 2 for 2. It will be many months before I visit, but I will have a report next year assuming it goes as planned.

    Nanase graciously allowed the naughty ad to be filmed. I wanted to narrate some excerpts from the ad, as if I were the guy (humor me). First, notice how nice jgirls look with clothes on. Jgirls are famous for looking their best with clothes on, but it is a dice roll when the clothes come off. She and I exchange 'gyu' for hugs. I have a huge grin like a simp and tell her how much cuter she is than the ad, I'm so glad I paid money for sex with her. Really she asks. Really, yokatta. I forget I'm paying by the minute and focus on hugging her, so the scene has to skp forward. Now we are in the lotion bath, what beautiful white A cups she has. Many guys have turned at run at this, but I am all-in. I have to say they found the perfect actor here to represent the average guy coming. They want people watching this ad not to hesitate. It can be me they should think.

    And so on. Damn, this ad really shows Nanase's good sides. If you don't mind A cups, book her before I do. There are dozens of soaplands like Gingira, many with English sites now explaining the process. Enjoy and no more need for Rosetta stone to learn Thai.

    First photo attached is Nanase's profile photo. It says Nanase is 20. Surprisingly, at this store the ages aren't too off. Another girl is advertised as 19 and it turns out she was 19 when she started, but now 22 - it still says she's 19. So in a very backwards way this shop at least doesn't just make up a number, the ages were at one point correct (unlike many other shops).

    They have quite the extras. If you see "A girl enter the room, fellatio Immediately" that's exactly what you means - she sucks your dick right away. I'm not sure I'm ready for that one, but I want to be brave. "Piss show" apparently in Japanese it's called "holy water" in kanji and you're just supposed to know that means piss. Huh. Note "Drinking cum", options like these depend on the girl, see a girl's ad page and if it shows O or not meaning they will do it. Most important, see if the girl is "foreigner okay" which a lot of them are. Triangle means "maybe" - either they roll a 20-sided die or they see I can speak in complete sentences and gives me the okay sign.

    Some girls also support 3P. What a coincidence, so do I!

    Seriously, it turns out just today I had my first 3P. Even blindfolded myself and correctly identified which girl it was by her ass before shoving in. Well, I will try to do the same in Japan once I get up to date on DH again. I love my oppai pubs but there are specific girls I want to see now.

    This is one of the better shops with some great looking girls (I've seen them at a different shop before they moved here)and charges accordingly. The theme is 'disco era', love the look.
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  11. #13835
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.

    Total damage was 55,000 Yen for 80 minute. Got a drink and free ride to the train station after.

    Definitely would repeat when I want real soapland service in Tokyo.
    Is the 55000 fee paid upfront?

    Is there ability to negotiate addons with girl in private, or is the whole experienced pretty much scripted from girl perspective (was, bbj, covered sex, wash. Repeat for next guy)?

  12. #13834
    Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.

    https://casanova-soapland.com/

    I made initial contact over WhatsApp. Everything in English. They suggested making an appointment. I asked to visit in 2 days. A Friday afternoon. They said it was fine. I made arrangements to meet Asuka.

    I showed up a few minutes early. They had my reservation by name. An older guy in a suit welcomed me and brought me to a waiting room. By the time he brought me some tea Asuka was already ready.

    I came out and there she was. Friendly and waving. She's pretty, quite petite, speaks little English. Pretty much looks like her pics. But she did a great job. It was a full on soap experience.

    Took off my clothes and put them away for me.

    Washed my body with little sucks and licks in between.

    Gave me a nice hot bath.

    Full on soapy body slide with lots of mouth and tongue play.

    Good rimming, great BJ.

    FS with condom in several positions.

    I laid back and let her do all the work. I go to a place like this to get serviced. And serviced I was! She rode me for a solid 15 minutes without taking a break. I was amazed by her effort. Felt great rubbing and touching that slim body with the lotion all over it too. No wonder Diddy buys oil by the truck load!

    Total damage was 55,000 Yen for 80 minute. Got a drink and free ride to the train station after.

    Definitely would repeat when I want real soapland service in Tokyo.

  13. #13833

    Straight Credible Advice

    Okay gentlemen. Hoping for some straightforward answers from credible recent visitors to Japan. I need to decide whether to spend time and money visiting Japan. I've gone back and forth 10+ times now. I combine vacation / tourism with mongering each trip. Japan Plus: I'd like to see the country from tourist perspective. Japan Minus: the blatant anti-foreigner sex scene. I don't think I've been to a place (6 punting countries and counting) that isn't welcoming of foreigners. Sort of odd to me.

    Yes, I can go back to Thailand only for the 5th time now, but it's becoming harder to explain to family and friends. After getting back from Brazil they're starting to figure out I travel to sex tourist.

    Destinations.

    So, my very specific questions which will help me decide if Japan is worth the expense and time are:

    1. Is there enough foreigner friendly soaplands and escort services (health delivery) with quality and friendly girls? Or it this just one big hassle with disappointing results?

    2. Is any foreigner able to get "raw" (bareback) sex from these venues even if they pay a little more? Yes, I'm polite, clean, well dressed, friendly, clean cut.

  14. #13832
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    For a detailed explanation of the sex business in Japan, with all the nuances of legality, here is a detailed interview with a Japanese SW. It will answer every question I have ever heard on this board about delivery health and soapland:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68
    This was great.

    Both the interviewer and the woman are good talkers and seem to be pretty intelligent.

    She says she's 33 and will probably retire at 35.

    Any idea where she works? I suppose with 1000 customers on her list getting a booking is pretty tough.

  15. #13831

    Okubo park article

    Someone else just found out that there's this place called Kabukicho where women actually prostitute themselves. They wrote a whole article about it:

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...n-sex-tourism/

    Articles like these are often embellished with rumor and exaggeration. I recognize many of the sources of the article and it is all too easy to fill in the blanks with whatever you want to finish an article.

    "At Okubo Park, there are no pimps just men, including foreign nationals, looking for paid sex and young women there to give it. By 8 pm, there were around 30 women waiting to be called on. ".

    This is true enough. There are some daily livestreams showing the lineup. Like with all things there are peak and busy times. Keep in mind youtube, tiktok, etc. Will play things up for shock value. Half the videos I've seen aren't even of prostitutes but claiming them to be. Simply reading the sign the girls are holding in Japanese would show they were advertising for a no touch girls bar. Totally different. But it gets the clicks.

    "In the past, Japanese men used to be criticized for going to Southeast Asia for sex. Now, it appears to be the other way around, with foreign tourists and residents flocking to the area, fueled by a weak yen, robust inbound tourism and social media posts. ".

    This is a shifting trend for sure, but to be clear 95%-98% of business is still Japanese locals obviously. This is not Thailand. In the same way, some Japanese women go abroad to neighboring countries to work. Asia, Austrlia, Canada, US, etc.

    "Foreign tourists at times come in groups accompanied by an interpreter to help them negotiate. Some girls prefer foreign nationals, fearing that Japanese customers may turn out to be undercover police officers. ".

    Certainly this happens but it is not the norm. The author is conflating Okubo park with other places staffed by foreign SWs, who do prefer foreigners and interact with them more often. And most approaches by foreigners are not going to involve a translator, though I have done just that when I was young. It's not common.

    "The reality is that Japan has become a country where foreign men can obtain young women and essentially buy sexual services.

    Most people understand this is an unusual outlier. We're talking a street in a district of a city where this happens. It is not the norm nor do people consider that to represent Japan. What is more well known is Japanese women at corgs around the world who may pleasure you on the clock including bb upcharge. It's everywhere now. I'll look up a girl I like and they make quite the tours around the world.

    "The average price per session is around 20,000, but this can be lowered to 15,000 if business is slow. ".

    Wow, thanks for the tip. Sounds about right.

    "A Japan Times reporter on assignment witnessed several sex workers going straight to host clubs after working on the street and then heading back to the park again to earn more cash after the clubs closed at around 1 am ".

    Good on them for doing personal research. They now know as much as I knew 20 years ago. Anyone with eyes can learn this information. This is a reminder not to take these articles too seriously, they are trying to give the facts with research but are not experts on this.

    "Sex workers face many dangers, including physical violence, extortion and sexually transmitted diseases. ".

    These are real risks, but not the norm. It's true it is hard to report violence in this work but anyone caught doing it should be punished.

    "A friend was physically beaten by a foreign customer, who demanded she return half of the money he paid because he could not reach orgasm. Since her friend didn't want to risk being arrested, she called Miya for help instead. When they ran away from the man, he kicked Miya in the back and chased them, refusing to stop until Miya's friend returned the money. ".

    This is one of those tell-tale made up stories where the villain patiently waits for a witness to show up before continuing their crazy behavior. No doubt it can happen, but this particular story of the violent but very patient customer did not happen. See these juicy fibs all the time in their articles to meet some deadline.

    "Support groups and lawmakers say legal loopholes are to blame for what's happening. In Japan, buying and selling sex for money is illegal, but the ban is limited to penetration only. The anti-prostitution law imposes a criminal punishment of up to six months in prison and a fine of up to 10,000, but only for the seller and not the buyer. ".

    Wow, thanks for the tip. It is true the police are going to suck their teeth on John's if they are just customers. Remember that only PIV is illegal, paying a woman for HJ / BJ / Anal / Sumatra is legal as long as she is of legal age. What men get in trouble for is being pimps / brokers, which is illegal.

    Conclusion
    It must be said that prostitution is not taken seriously in Japan. Nationally, about 400 arrests are made per year. Versus about 7,000 in the US now. Note the US used to average 70,000 in the year 2000 but has dropped enforcement 10-fold to just 7,000 in 2024. It is barely a drop in the bucket and not taken seriously in either country, hence big headlines for every case that makes the exception.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-sex-industry/
    https://oppaga.fl.gov/Documents/Repo...20prostitution

    This article is just about one notorious street in Kabukicho, a sub-district of Shinjuku in the city of Tokyo. Let me just say there are other streets where things are different obviously. I have written about them in the appropriate sub-forums.

    I only know things because I have two eyes. If you have seen street action to be had, you too can write a report and warn us about naughty streets we should avoid.

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