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  1. #14509
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Can't understand why a punter would fly half way around the world spending thousands on flights and accommodation and then spend 20 US on WG that do 6/7/8 clients a day. Its like driving my Lamborghini to McDonald's and being happy that I got cheap fries.
    Not all of us are high-flying executives from half way around the world. Plenty of local or regional punters flying into KL on Air Asia for $30, lah!

    Personally, I don't think that in our hobby we're NOT getting what we pay for, especially in scenes like Malaysia where decent service is NOT the norm. Better 80 RM for a basic quickie at ACE, which occasionally turns out nicer than expected, than 800 RM at Beach Club for what often ends up being a disappointing quickie too, albeit with more overhead (taxis, your hotel etc).

    Regarding looks, more expensive places usually get a higher number of better lookers, but you can always judge for yourself, and presumably only pick ones that appeal to you. Finding a diamond in the rough can be fun, more fun for me than finding what turns out to be a nicely made up bushpig in the relative glitz (but to each their own). As an aside, some nationalities are only available on the low end.

    As for the number of clients, every WG has seen 1000's upon 1000's of dicks. At their level, it doesn't really matter if they average 8 per day or 3 per day. We're not talking Lamborghinis here anyway, but either a Proton for $20 or an old Toyota for $200, both with huge mileage.

  2. #14508
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Dude, really? ... in what country?

    I mean, maybe I'm in California, but we pay our interns way more than that.
    What industry are you in? Software engineering or legal? I'm California as well and know big tech companies and top law firms pay interns about $5,000 to $7,000 per month, but most industries don't. Even at that pay rate, the net is about $3,500 to $5,000 after taxes.

    I met lots of guys from the US whose companies flew them on business class and put them up in 4-5 hotels, but didn't want to spend a lot of personal money. You got to consider high cost of living, taxes, and family to support.

    No need to criticize others. Each to his own.

  3. #14507
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Dude, really? ... in what country?
    I mean, maybe I'm in California, but we pay our interns way more than that.
    I am in Europe.

    I said "net", having deducted everything. In USA, the monthly salary is ultra-gross, because one has to pay taxes, health insurance, retirement investment funds. The last two are not mandatory, but in Europe they are automatically deducted and shared between the employee and the employer. The good point is that if I fall sick and I cannot work anymore, I cannot afford an insurance anymore, whatever, still for all my life I can get say a heart transplant at the best hospital from the public health system without paying. Good luck in California if you need a heart transplant and you are POOR! I rather keep my lower salary, but at least I am safe.

  4. #14506
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Y...Most engineers I know who are sent overseas for meetings or training are paid 2000-4000 USD montly net...
    Dude, really? ... in what country?

    I mean, maybe I'm in California, but we pay our interns way more than that.

  5. #14505
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Surely if they are working for a company that can pay their travel expenses, they are on a wage that can afford less than 100 US per night for a girl?
    NI.
    You are overly optimistic. The travel budget allocated to an employee has little to do with his salary.

    Flying someone from Europe to KL in Economy and paying his stay there for a week at a 4/5 stars hotel with good restaurants is about 1500-2000 EUR. Add 500/800 for Premium Economy (maybe via Singapore) or 1000/1500 for business. Total say 2000-3500 USD.

    If someone pays 100 USD for a girl every night (actually more likely 150 with ongoing prices at BC / TC), in one week is 700-1000, which proportioned to one month is 3000-4500 USD/month. Most engineers I know who are sent overseas for meetings or training are paid 2000-4000 USD montly net. I am not surprised that cheaper alternatives are considered by a few ones. Not everyone is so high level to be an executive or financial advisor.

    Personally, I could not afford (or I would be irresponsible should I) to spend one week in KL drawing girls every night from BC, or even worse in Singapore going every night at OT, but I move to Batam instead of going to ACE. I spend less and enjoy more!

    To EXSPAT:
    Yes, the reason I was digging Chowkit 10 years ago was not to save money but exactly to feel that special thrill!
    Said all this, I stay away from ACE and Petailing.

  6. #14504
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Surely if they are working for a company that can pay their travel expenses, they are on a wage that can afford less than 100 US per night for a girl?.
    If guys with such a paycheck go usually with 300 $ hookers, maybe it's a special kick for them to pay 20 bucks / shot in a rundown cubicle. Just a guess.

  7. #14503

    Geez are they that cheap

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Because flight and accommodation are paid by the employing company, but the bill of BC cannot be added to the expense refund form.
    Surely if they are working for a company that can pay their travel expenses, they are on a wage that can afford less than 100 US per night for a girl?

    NI.

  8. #14502
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Can't understand why a punter would fly half way around the world spending thousands on flights and accommodation and then spend 20 US on WG that do 6/7/8 clients a day. Its like driving my Lamborghini to McDonald's and being happy that I got cheap fries.
    That's if I had a Lamborghini.
    Because flight and accommodation are paid by the employing company, but the bill of BC cannot be added to the expense refund form.

  9. #14501

    Beats me

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Ace is open. Richmore Hotel is just another name for the same place. Prices are 50-120 RM, though 80 RM seems to be the going rate for most providers these days. Plenty of Bangla and Indian guys at Ace. The place is grotty, but there are no safety issues as long as you pay, and move along when instructed by the friendly mafia guys. They don't want trouble any more than you do. At Ace, I like that you deal directly with the girls, and that you can sit (or stand) and gawk as long as you want.
    It's still tempting to take a look, though given the facilities and attitude I almost never care to partake.
    No massage in either of these places.
    Can't understand why a punter would fly half way around the world spending thousands on flights and accommodation and then spend 20 US on WG that do 6/7/8 clients a day. Its like driving my Lamborghini to McDonald's and being happy that I got cheap fries.

    That's if I had a Lamborghini.

  10. #14500
    Quote Originally Posted by Ekspat  [View Original Post]
    The "glory hole" in the wall in a non-sexual meaning, hehe.
    99% of today's readers are probably not understanding what is the surprise on the other side of the glory hole, but I like this camaraderie among oldest KL diggers and ISG posters in this thread.

  11. #14499

    Yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    The (in)famous wooden wall...
    The "glory hole" in the wall in a non-sexual meaning, hehe.

  12. #14498
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Unlike the low-end places in Chowkit which were notorious for theft (so much you could expect them to try)
    The (in)famous wooden wall...

  13. #14497
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolGuy85  [View Original Post]
    For cheap sex: ACE, Richmoore hotel. Are these places safe for an Indian guy. Are they still open and what are the prices?

    Petaling Street. What's the scene there?
    Yes, Ace is open. Richmore Hotel is just another name for the same place. Prices are 50-120 RM, though 80 RM seems to be the going rate for most providers these days. Plenty of Bangla and Indian guys at Ace. The place is grotty, but there are no safety issues as long as you pay, and move along when instructed by the friendly mafia guys. They don't want trouble any more than you do. At Ace, I like that you deal directly with the girls, and that you can sit (or stand) and gawk as long as you want.

    Not far from Ace, there's also One Stop Food Court (Jln Gelang), with a 100 RM going rate and slightly better service. Worth checking out, but it's mostly a Chinese zone, I haven't seen Indian customers there (not sure why).

    Petaling is just about the most awful brothel scene imaginable in terms of facilities and service, although occasionally there are a few cute women around. Pimps are a major nuisance, and perhaps the women are a nuisance too. As an Indian, you have the advantage of a 30 RM to 50 RM going rate, for white guys they seem stuck at 50 RM minimum with some asking 80 RM (too much for a 10 min pump in a rat-infested craphole like that). Petaling has about 8 places on both sides of the road (past the market). There are a few other Petaling-style brothels elsewhere (Jln Tun HS Lee, Jln Gajah).

    Unlike the low-end places in Chowkit which were notorious for theft (so much you could expect them to try), I never felt unsafe at either Ace or Petaling. However, I felt unwelcome at Petaling, since I take my time to look around and choose, and most pimps and girls are jumpy and don't like that at all (though one or two pimps are chill and reasonably polite). It's still tempting to take a look, though given the facilities and attitude I almost never care to partake.

    No massage in either of these places.

  14. #14496
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    I would suggest you are close to paying double to what you need to but up to you.
    And note the "no kissing"! Considered that "her breath smelled of pussy", it would have been quite an experience.

  15. #14495

    700 for ST

    Quote Originally Posted by Akumababa  [View Original Post]
    Got the hotel folks to get me a nuru massage, you can ask them for leads on a nuru or B2B massage. Lady from China came, she was young, tall, and looked fertile to boot. Gave me a nice massage that got me hard so I asked to fuck her, it was 1 HR 20 mins into it then and we only had 40 mins to fuck but I said what the heck to the price quoted. The massage was pretty good, she was soft and gentle and pressed all the right places and gave me and me weiner adequate attention.
    She had a banging body with firm tits, only thing I didn't like was that her breath smelled of pussy (it was likely just unbrushed) but she was hot and the whole experience was pretty much on the up side.
    300 + 400 for FS, no kissing.
    I would suggest you are close to paying double to what you need to but up to you.

    NI.

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