Monterrey

[Marius 67]

Am doing a copy/paste here from one of my members:

DEFINITIVAMENTE VALERIA SPA masaje E X E L E N T E, final feliz y no hay extras.
yo en lo personal he hido una vez y me gusto mucho
VALERIA masajista profesional, damas y caballeros
1648-0205
cel. 811389-6546
SALUDOS

Valeria a masseuse that offers massage and happy ending, no other extras.
Seems she has her own spa.

Thank you!

Hopefully. I will be able to find her and enjoy a well deserved massaje. I am deeply in your Debt. Amigomio.

If I can ever do anything. Just ask. Again Thank You Sir.

[MonterreyDude]

Am doing a copy/paste here from one of my members:

DEFINITIVAMENTE VALERIA SPA masaje E X E L E N T E, final feliz y no hay extras.
yo en lo personal he hido una vez y me gusto mucho
VALERIA masajista profesional, damas y caballeros
1648-0205
cel. 811389-6546
SALUDOS

Valeria a masseuse that offers massage and happy ending, no other extras.
Seems she has her own spa.

I often liked going to the Massage Parlors in Waco, Tx. But since I moved here to South Texas I can't' find any decent massage parlors that offer a decent HJ at the end of the session or anything else?. I know we do not go for massages in Monterrey, But can any body point me in the right direction to get a legit massage with with optional HJ towards the end of the session.

Thanks

[MonterreyDude]

It's almost 1 pm local Monterrey time and my friends at my Yahoo group are asking me: "why just a handjob???"

LOL...

Give me 24 hours.
Let me check it out with my yahoo group members here in Monterrey.

[MonterreyDude]

Give me 24 hours.
Let me check it out with my yahoo group members here in Monterrey.

I often liked going to the Massage Parlors in Waco, Tx. But since I moved here to South Texas I can't' find any decent massage parlors that offer a decent HJ at the end of the session or anything else?. I know we do not go for massages in Monterrey, But can any body point me in the right direction to get a legit massage with with optional HJ towards the end of the session.

Thanks

[Member #3453]

Amigomio and me are like brothers...so, there is never really a seriously heated discussion, just passionate, but totally friendly disagreements, mostly discussions concerning his liberal ideology versus my conservative politics. But, for some reason, only where the USA is concerned. We have not yet applied our respective political viewpoints as they concern his own country, which I find kind of curious when you consider Mexico's HUGE range of Social, Criminal, and Corruption Oriented Political problems, he always wanting to critique the United States with very little analysis in comparison to Mexico's range of political antics.

My friend, I just counted up the number of girls I am currently seeing. I have no less than (7) "girlfriends," and one "Real Mexican Girlfriend." Amigomio doesn't really know the full range of my activities. He only observes my lack of interest in girls at El Prestige, Obsession, Casino, Harem, etc...and he has very little appreciation for what I am really up to most of the time. You see, his bars are not my bars...that's a huge distinction. Simply put, he has no knowledge of my endeavors outside his main bars.

And, regarding Prestige and Obsession, I go there strictly for the buffet, and some titillating conversation, just playful fun, nothing more, mostly for the very reasons that Amigomio stated concerning the types of girls working the afternoon shifts. So, why waste your time spending too much on them, or making any significant effort with them.

So, the accusations that I am not playing the field as much as I should be, when you also consider that I am not Mexican, Spanish being my second language, that I split my time between my home in the USA and my home in Monterrey...well, I don't think I am doing too badly overall.

And, when you consider the constraints of my admittedly narrow criteria for acceptance into the USB circle of amigas, I am not progressing too badly in comparison to Amigomio based on his confessions here as to his numbers of girlfriends. I don't have Amigomio's advantages either, being constantly available to work the girls 24 hours a day.

So, you see Amigomio, I am not at all squandering my opportunities...Far from it. I'm actually having some difficulty juggling them all, especially with a real GF in the mix. But, the real analysis is this...of the girls I have found to be acceptable, I've probably thoroughly interviewed ten times that number, and disqualified as many as 200 girls as being a useless endeavor. That's my point about Mexican Bar Girls. There are a ton of real clunkers, and it requires work to find the good ones.

Actually at Prestige, right now, only 1.

Thing is that the afternoon girls are more the domestic/home kind of nice/decent girls than the night shift girls.

The night shift girls are pro's, the afternoon girls are only there for a quick buck, make some money for school and get out of the business if possible.
Many of them, when they finish their shift, prefer their boyfriends, their parents, their pets, over extra money.

And let me remind mongers reading this that USB has a very narrow margin in mind when selecting girls. (something that is changing, hopefuly) cause he speaks of being able to count all the girls worth it on one hand.

Me, right now I have 2 regular GFs that don't work at the clubs, they are escorts (USB has met them). 2 regular club girls (one at Harem and one at Casino) and 5 backups (the Prestige girl, 2 at Harem and 2 at Infinito).
That makes it 9.

Asides from that, there are my regular quickies, my alternates, any extra that lands on my lap.
Of all of those, USB has only paid attention to one, the Prestige girl.

For him, the rest are too old, too tall, too thick, not a flaca-morena... things we talked about here a couple of days ago.
I mean, it is USB's style and I respect it, but I have been begging for him to widen his horizons.
He has been losing so many opportunites neglecting some of the girls that want USB's friendship.
Again, hopefuly I will be able to change his mind one of these days.


PS: I used to have more girls, but am slowing down a little. I can't go to as many clubs as before... not enough time.

[Marius 67]

I often liked going to the Massage Parlors in Waco, Tx. But since I moved here to South Texas I can't' find any decent massage parlors that offer a decent HJ at the end of the session or anything else?. I know we do not go for massages in Monterrey, But can any body point me in the right direction to get a legit massage with with optional HJ towards the end of the session.

Thanks

[MonterreyDude]

Actually at Prestige, right now, only 1.

Thing is that the afternoon girls are more the domestic/home kind of nice/decent girls than the night shift girls.

The night shift girls are pro's, the afternoon girls are only there for a quick buck, make some money for school and get out of the business if possible.
Many of them, when they finish their shift, prefer their boyfriends, their parents, their pets, over extra money.

And let me remind mongers reading this that USB has a very narrow margin in mind when selecting girls. (something that is changing, hopefuly) cause he speaks of being able to count all the girls worth it on one hand.

Me, right now I have 2 regular GFs that don't work at the clubs, they are escorts (USB has met them). 2 regular club girls (one at Harem and one at Casino) and 5 backups (the Prestige girl, 2 at Harem and 2 at Infinito).
That makes it 9.

Asides from that, there are my regular quickies, my alternates, any extra that lands on my lap.
Of all of those, USB has only paid attention to one, the Prestige girl.

For him, the rest are too old, too tall, too thick, not a flaca-morena... things we talked about here a couple of days ago.
I mean, it is USB's style and I respect it, but I have been begging for him to widen his horizons.
He has been losing so many opportunites neglecting some of the girls that want USB's friendship.
Again, hopefuly I will be able to change his mind one of these days.


PS: I used to have more girls, but am slowing down a little. I can't go to as many clubs as before... not enough time.

While you are getting rid of your disappointments, I am ten miles ahead of you, not even patronizing most of them to begin with. That's why they see me as a "NO CUSTOMER." Because, that's exactly what I am. The best move is not to waste your time and money to begin with if you perceive them as scam artists.

Besides, I'm talking about lazy girls inside the club environment that misrepresent themselves to you, promising the moon, and delivering San Nicolas. I'm talking about lazy girls on salida. That's where the rubber meets the road. And, lets face it, most of the bar girls we know are scam artists. We can both count on one hand how many of the bars girls we know are worth anything. You know full well that the majority are a waste of time.

Lets take an example, of all the bar girls at El Prestige that are working, how many does Amigomio believe are worth spending time and money on? I'll tell you...probably about 4 out of 40. Not terribly impressive odds, verdad?

I say that the process takes a lot more work and experience if you expect to get even close to PSE out of the majority of bar girls we know. So, for someone to come down to Monterrey with little or no experience, little or no time on the ground here, etc...and have them expecting to find that they will routinely achieve PSE from the pool of bar girls we know...I still say FAT CHANCE!

[Trainman]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the heated discussions.

If you could just let me know, which places to go to to find the girls, in your opinions, which is the best place for the hottest looking totty, and which hotel to book into.

If any of you have experience of any escort agencies or if the doormen of the hotel if bribed a few dollars will get me what I want, and which hotel.

Cheers, keep up the good works.

Trainman

[Member #3453]

While you are getting rid of your disappointments, I am ten miles ahead of you, not even patronizing most of them to begin with. That's why they see me as a "NO CUSTOMER." Because, that's exactly what I am. The best move is not to waste your time and money to begin with if you perceive them as scam artists.

Besides, I'm talking about lazy girls inside the club environment that misrepresent themselves to you, promising the moon, and delivering San Nicolas. I'm talking about lazy girls on salida. That's where the rubber meets the road. And, lets face it, most of the bar girls we know are scam artists. We can both count on one hand how many of the bars girls we know are worth anything. You know full well that the majority are a waste of time.

Lets take an example, of all the bar girls at El Prestige that are working, how many does Amigomio believe are worth spending time and money on? I'll tell you...probably about 4 out of 40. Not terribly impressive odds, verdad?

I say that the process takes a lot more work and experience if you expect to get even close to PSE out of the majority of bar girls we know. So, for someone to come down to Monterrey with little or no experience, little or no time on the ground here, etc...and have them expecting to find that they will routinely achieve PSE from the pool of bar girls we know...I still say FAT CHANCE!

Mexican girls are lazy, cause USB is not the kind of man that commands the presence of a demanding customer. The girls know the moment USB lays foot on a club, what he wants, instead of being an enigma, he is marked as a "no customer". They know he is looking for certain types of girls and USB will find them. But the mayority do not like what USB wants. That's why they act lazy, not willing to do their job, etc. And reflecting on what BBond mantioned in his post, the best move to this kind of attitude is, like what he and me do when dealing with girls, just get rid of the girl and show them we know our stuff, not show the weaknesses that they can use against us.

[MonterreyDude]

Albert, Misses has uploaded real pictures of their girls.

www.misses.com.mx

And right now, at least for a brief perioed of time, I can vouch that they have some nice ladies working there.

I have noticed some fresh meat in their website,
which is not bad at all as there is now more choice for my taste.

[Albert Punter]

I have noticed some fresh meat in their website, which is not bad at all as there is now more choice for my taste.

...
By the way Albert, a rumor says half of lucesazules girls have gone rouge.
Seems they went to another agency.
When I get the link I'll post it here, see if they are the ones you know or just the agency getting rid of the excess fat.

[Albert Punter]

Well I cannot comment about relationship between services and security.
I can only tell you that I never personally bribed anyone.

Albert, come on: What do you think the services that places girls in your room do?

Bribe security.

Your tally includes the bribe.

[MonterreyDude]

My friend USB is going to kill me after this:

"Many Mexican Girls are very lazy. Many of them do not want to work for what you've agreed to pay them. Many are content to let you do all the work, simply contemplating the thought of where they're going to spend the money."

Specially since after commenting on his post, am meeting him for lunch.

Mexican girls are lazy, cause USB is not the kind of man that commands the presence of a demanding customer.
The girls know the moment USB lays foot on a club, what he wants, instead of being an enigma, he is marked as a "no customer".

They know he is looking for certain types of girls and USB will find them.
But the mayority do not like what USB wants.

That's why they act lazy, not willing to do their job, etc.

And reflecting on what BBond mantioned in his post, the best move to this kind of attitude is, like what he and me do when dealing with girls, just get rid of the girl and show them we know our stuff, not show the weaknesses that they can use against us.

Granted, the PSE and GFE are concepts that are truly subjective to each monger.

I find that if a girl, through her personality, and her approach to me, is able to convince me that she has a legitimate interest in seeing me, apart from just the money, then GFE, and certainly PSE, is just an almost natural outcome. And, I draw everyone's attention to this as well...Notice that I said that they are able to "convince" me of their sincerity, not that they truly possess it.

There are girls out there that exhibit those characteristics, and meet my kind of criteria. But, most of the girls that we draw upon have very hardened hearts, and they are not open to what I look for. So, the field narrows considerably because the pool of selection is full of really cold, really hardened contenders.

Then, when you heap on my superficial criteria that Amigomio accused me of, criteria I am also quite guilty of, then it just narrows the pool even further, making my actually finding them a relatively big job.

But, they're out there. Hence my criticism that, for me, there are very few that I would categorize as GFE. With respect to my trying to find PSE, I would say that I drop the "carino" criteria, and rely mostly on whether they "initiate."

Many Mexican Girls are very lazy. Many of them do not want to work for what you've agreed to pay them. Many are content to let you do all the work, simply contemplating the thought of where they're going to spend the money.

There are so many Mexican Girls that are totally clueless about what will make their sessions better, and an even greater number that could not care less about even wanting to make their sessions better. There are even more of them that are not even smart enough to recognize that you may be a very lucrative gravy train were they to invest some effort in the experience. They do not respect us as clients, and as literal cash cows. To their own detriment they lack the intelligence to recognize what they should be doing for their own good.

I believe this is due to the Mexican Girl culture, that it has them entering into agreements with almost a larcenous attitude. So, very often, more often than not, the result is girls that are simply going through the motions. Once the scam is complete to get you to agree to go on salida, any prospect for actual delivery of expectations is totally disregarded.

I would rather be sitting in my room alone when I mistakenly bring one of them back to my room, one that has turned on the charm in the bar, is clearly capable of the PSE, if not the GFE, only to abandon all sense of responsibility and obligation to deliver upon anticipations they created, only to reveal their true nature, almost like they have split personalities once you get them back to the hotel. There are a ton of them out there like this. Hence, my reason for having a prejudicial and critical assessment that so many Mexican Girls are a disappointment. Because, so many truly are...at least within the club scene.

I do think there may also be a huge distinction between the Escorts many of you see, versus the club girls I endeavor to find, and this may account for some of my prejudice. The escorts rely on their ability to "sell." Maybe they deliver the PSE more consistently because that's their business. Whereas, the club girls are engaged in a public persona designed to sell drinks and privados in the near term, which requires a certain amount of "personality" to achieve success. But, maybe if they're not selling drinks or privados, they just stupidly turn off the charm once they sink the hook. It's like once some of them "leave the stage," the public persona they use to sell drinks and privados, they abandon any awareness, or sense of self serving urgency, that the selling never really stops. Whereas, the Escorts know that the selling never really stops.

[MonterreyDude]

Bbond... "some believe me to be a total asshole"

Good for you.
Exactly the same thing I do when confronted with the same situation.

My "Don't tell me this is the first time you've noticed?" comment was written only in irony.
Of course I know you are fully qualified for stomping ho territories.

Amigomio, I have quite a reputation with the girls here in NL, some believe me to be a total asshole. Why? Before I bring a girl home I get some assurance from her considering what she is comfortable with, we get back to my place and she hesitates, she is fired, on the spot, NO COMPENSATION.
I brought a girl home one night, she promised the world, when we got her she wanted me to pay her first, then opted for me just to put money where she could see it, no foreplay, -0-, no BBBJ that she agreed to. She tried to put a condom, after agreeing to BBFS, on a 1/2 hard dick, then tried to shove a 1/2 hard dick in her. She was fired, NO COMPENSATION, get dressed get the fuck out, fired. She stood looking at me asking for her payment, I told her go and go now, if you won't deliver as we agreed, then get the fuck out and don't bother trying to negotiate a return.

A kicker, tho, I went back and found her sister, who told me she was not like that and I would have a good time, and boy did I.

[MonterreyDude]

I was going to recomend Azul too, but the gentleman is asking a lot.
Lesbian, all nighter with 2 of lucesazules' girls might carry a hefty tab.

That's why I asked Trainman for his budget for starters.

By the way Albert, a rumor says half of lucesazules girls have gone rouge.
Seems they went to another agency.
When I get the link I'll post it here, see if they are the ones you know or just the agency getting rid of the excess fat.

May I suggest you try Azul ?
Probably she is what you look for: available to everything you may imagine and not outrageously expensive.