Kyiv

[Gentleman Travel]

Ten hours of glorious sleep later it was time to make the most of my last day in Kiev. While laying there I felt a strong urge for someone fun, and NOW. Call it lazy, call it wasting money, call me a shill if you want. I called Gia again. It worked so well last time that with just 24 hours left in Kiev I wanted one more absolutely guaranteed hotty.

Polina showed up within 45 minutes. Dressed in very classic business attire, this tall, sort of innocent looking girl with a gorgeous smile looked WAY to good to be true. The coolest part is she was giving me an amazing passionate kiss seconds after walking through the door. She proved to be a total Energizer Bunny. Site says she is 29, I didn't believe it, but she insists. On the pencil thin side, but I finally got to cum watching that amazing ass slap up against me. We got along like a couple long lost friends. Love it when you run across a pro that enjoys what she's doing, and makes you crazy in the process. Those that say Gia is overpriced, may be right, but based on a worldwide market I say they offer damn good value for the money. Prices are well below top quality US agencies, and exactly the same as in Montreal. When an agency goes two for two at the quality of who they sent me I call it top notch.

I'm interested in quality p4p rather than freebies. Already have a couple of emails from the Mamba girl that spent the night. The expectations that come along with messing with someone's head like that amount to karmic debt I'd the rather not mess with. Remember this was intended, and probably is my only visit to Kiev.

Hey Romany, thanks for the detailed reports, not everyone does this after mining the forum for advice.

Glad you had a great time, although I think you made things difficult for yourself with your "no repeats" policy. The ROI goes up dramatically when you don't incur the work and risks of finding a new pussy every time. But to each his own!

How much was the GIA girl? If you say "same as Montreal" I assume that is $200-$250 per hour? But it sounds like you got a real GFE from her and probably more than one hours time?

[Cruiser D]

Maybe, if there was I'd probably do it. .

There's a great business opportunity for someone who could be a "Mr. Wolf" who can make all the arrangements for a wild party with minimal angst. If anyone knows of a person who does this, please let me know!

[Jojosun]

I don't know who posted this. The quoting is a little messed up.

Girls like that are a dime a dozen in most major cities. You guys need to get out more.

If you are paying more than $300 for a girl like that in NYC you are either too lazy to look or there are other issues. Which of course explains the Rio-GIA-Buddha Bar triangle.

Now we are not talking Pies in the Sky or a Mermaid called Wanda, but the above girls looks in LJ's first post.

[/QUOTE]The quoting about the NYC prices in relation to London's Amelia & Gloria, was made by Liljoey in his first report.

As for NYC, I had a blast at the infamous Plato's Retreat swingers Club, just before it closed.

It only cost me the few dollars entrance fee. That's what I call a freebie.

Another freebie in NYC that I truly remember pulling, was in Tavern on The Green.

Sadly closed as well. But I am still going strong and more than 20+ years older, with a strong preference for P4P with 18/24 Tanned Blondes, don't mind them being Bimbos either.

Call me a Pervert.

[Jojosun]

Why even bother replying when you haven't been there? You are neither experienced in Chisinau or apparently Kiev. What is the sound of one hand clapping? Little Joey as he types a post on ISG.

You talking about Rio endlessly is about as interesting as you doing a cost comparison about the value menu at the McDonalds on Khreshatic, which I'm sure is probably next.

Just so there is no confusion about why the experienced members of the board react the way we do to you posts. Everything about your posts screams, I don't have a clue and apparently you are willing to write very long disjointed essays to that effect.

Please stop, it's extremely tedious. You can take girls out of Rio for sex, some are okay looking. We get it. Stop.

The board didn't jump back to life because you posted your 100th dissertation on Rio. It came roaring back to life because I started posting and some other senior members joined me. People that actually have something to say other than I went to Rio (Buddha Bar, GIA) , my apartment, Arena to eat and then back to the airport.

It stuck in my mind the first time I asked Old UkeBoy about the Meaning of Salons in Kiev, never heard it before. His swift reply (Read Borat 69 reports & do exactly as he says, or do you want us to change your Nappies for you?).

To this I replied (No need to be so Huffy mate, I have my own Baby sitter.).

I mean can't you & Ukeboy adopt the Style of a very good diplomat, when he tells you to Go to Hell, and actually makes you look Forward to It.

Its not what you say sometimes, its the way it is said.

BTW, wasn't lecturing anyone here. Just my thought for the day.

Keep them coming, your Posts.

[Ronaldinjo]

Hi Joey. Planning to fly to Kiev in the beggining of may for 2-3 days. I know the summer is not the best time for Kiev as a lot of hotties travel to the seas, but what about April-may? If there are a lot of students there as you mentioned so they are going to be in study vaccations. Does somebody know when the studies end in Kiev this year? Suppose earlier then last year because of euro 2012. Joey, you have been there last April, did you mention some abcence of hotties in that period of time?

[Jojosun]

Actually little Joey and Hunter Dave got hammered for different but somewhat similar reasons.

Little Joey goes on and on and on about one place in Kiev. The most noobiest of noob places now after the loss of RP.

Hunter Dave went on and on and on about the 7, 8.9s that were dropping all over him from mamba and I think River Palace. He was just painting too rosy of a picture and needed to adjust his scale by two notches. Kind of reminds me of what a first timer to RP who didn't know the place was p4p said, 'wow the girls here are really friendly. ' Really? Really.

Yes you brought back some life into the Kiev thread when you re- appeared again.

And to tell you the truth, I was beginning to think & wonder if liljoey had some kind of a vested interest in Rio Club. I did post that reading between the lines. Made me wonder, especially when I went back to read his First Detailed report (Where have all the River Palace girls Gone?).

Then (The Knight) posted in time with his honest opinion as he saw it, after meeting LJ in the club. Although I never met The Knight, or LJ, I think I can trust The Knight's judgment on LJ/

But with Hunter Dave versus Ukeboy&Bez bezarra, it was more of a banter, than anything else.

And what about posters walking into a Strip Club or a Bar I. And nailing a stunner in record time & For Free.

[Dave Carrera]

(I recall our PM correspondence where you were seeking advice regarding having a batchelor party in Kiev, and I reference my post on this thread of February 23, 2012, concerning my ideas for your batchelor party, see:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf.=1#post1251303

So, how have your plans progressed for the batchelor party?

I have reported previously on the website you asked about.

www.escort-models.com

I have also seen reports by other members about this agency.

Unfortunately, Goobye Lenin is correct. The photos look and are too good to be true. So don't rely on the photos of this agency to order girls to staff your batchelor party.

However, this does not mean you can't get good looking girls from this agency. It merely means the pictures are fake, and you will have to do some work to reveal what this agency is capable of delivering. I reported my own experience with such websites, where a really extremely skinny spindley blond girl with an ok face showed up in response to my invitation to send one of the website hotties, and I complained to the girl who came and told her that I wanted a girl like the one on the website that I showed her on my laptop. She said she will arrange things with her agency and a pretty girl will come. I did wait a longer time than they said, and the agency was not that reassuring on the phone when I called, so instead I made other arrangements and a girl I had been with before was soon on her way. But then lo and behold a very pretty girl did show up from the agency. So I got it cleared with both girls and had an impromptu 3some. What it means is that you must do the investigative work I wrote to you about and go throught the websites and make dates and send away the girls who don't make the cut, and try out the girls who look good and come up with some girls who make the grade to be invited to the batchelor party, so it will be a good one.

At the time Gentleman Travel wrote some good advice which I will cite to you again.

This is the way to get enough good looking girls for your batchelor party at a reasonably low cost.

I wrote to you about the higher cost option at the strip club which would not involve a lot of preliminary investigative work to find good looking girls, since it reliably has a lot of good looking girls present at the club on any given night, but there the risk is in performance of the girls once you get them home, and therefore even at the strip club it would be best to try out a few of the girls in advance, until you know you have winners to invite to the batchelors party.

Lastly, I wrote to you that an FKK trip would be a blast for a batchelor's party, especially if you haven't been to FKK's before. It will literally knock your socks off, and you may become addicted, as so many on this forum have.

I will be hitting the FKK's later in April. I will be in Berlin's Artemis on the night of April 19, and I will be in Frankfurt for weekend of April 20 to 22 and plan to hit FKK Oase and FKK Palace, two of the best FKK's. If you want to do a preliminary expedition then, I would be glad to show you the ropes.

So where are you along the process of planning your party? Never heard back from you.)

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo;1259979

Our flights and hotel are now set. We are coming to Kiev for 4 nights mid April, and staying in a suite and 2 regular rooms at the Hyatt. We will do as you have suggested; wish there were a site with verifiable photos as so much to choose from and we are trying to maximize fun and ease.

There's a great business opportunity for someone who could be a "Mr. Wolf" who can make all the arrangements for a wild party with minimal angst. If anyone knows of a person who does this, please let me know!

[Prosal]

Pro, just because there are more fat chicks in the US and Western Europe doesn't change the scale. .

Totally agree. Problem is that most guys are just SO happy to get laid (by something with a hole, even if have to pay for it) that they fool themselves to the point to rank as a 9 a girl who is actually a 6 or a 7.

[Mhansen1]

I went to Kiev some weeks ago, just for the weekend, and it was my first time in Kiev, and I do not speak any Russian at all. I did not have time to read all 634 pages in here, but saw the reports from Rio.

I planned to start out with a massage from Rakuena, but never managed to find the place.

Then I went for Roksolana, which was also very hard to find. I ended up in a womens haridresser salon, with a sign outside, saying "THIS IS NOT ROKSOLANA". Then I tried the alley next to the hairdresser, and ended up in a quit scary entrance hall, and up the stairs. Turned out to be the right place. Had a 90 mins erotic session, including shower, massage (not the best I have had) and 2 handjobs. Not to be repeated, but ok for 700 UAH.

Had dinner on the top of Hyatt hotel, with a great wiew of the churches nearby.

Went to Rio around 10 pm, as it was the most mentioned place in this board. Paid the 100 UAH entrance, and was placed in a chair, where 2 strippers were dancing in front of me.

Had a walk around the club, and saw the other strippers. I never figured out how many girls were actually working there, as girls kept on coming and leaving.

Finally saw a great looking girl, which was a 10 for me, maybe for others as well, but maybe just 1 for some. It is up to you guys.

Had a private dance and finally took her to my hotel for 2400 UAH for 3 hours.

It is the best ever WG experience I have ever had. She did everything exept BBBJ, and we had great sex for nearly 3 hours. Only drawback was her loud screaming, as I was afraid that the neighbours would come and complain.

Unfortunately her English was limited, and I never got her name. Something ending with ana. She was blond with huge natural tits, and a big ass.

I would go back to Kiev, just to see her again.

Finally I would suggest to start a thread just for Kiev strip clubs, then the more experienced mongers can stay in the Kiev thread.

Thanks to everybody for reporting on Rio.

[Cruiser D]

Worst advice I ever saw on this forum, which is saying a lot.

If you are clear with the agency that you want the girl in the photo (which has about a 20% chance of happening) or super hot girl and they send a troll. Send her packing, if you want to be a nice guy and give her taxi money (60uah) that is on you. If you give her some of the fee to stay in the good graces of the agency, you are an idiot.

I generally meet agency girls on the street (not in front of my building. d-oh!) so I can just walk away if need be.

Please note if you send the girl back with just the taxi fare, they would not serve you again even though it is their fault to post a fake photo in the first place.

[Cruiser D]

Actually little Joey and Hunter Dave got hammered for different but somewhat similar reasons.

Little Joey goes on and on and on about one place in Kiev. The most noobiest of noob places now after the loss of RP.

Hunter Dave went on and on and on about the 7, 8.9s that were dropping all over him from mamba and I think River Palace. He was just painting too rosy of a picture and needed to adjust his scale by two notches. Kind of reminds me of what a first timer to RP who didn't know the place was p4p said, 'wow the girls here are really friendly. ' Really? Really.

BTW, I am glad to see that you posted in time about your honest opinion of Liljoey, who was getting at times the same reception as Hunter Dave got, when he first posted.

At those times even some posters were doubting that a monger by such name existed.

Cheers

[Cruiser D]

My issues is guys with limited experience rating trolls over a 5. Which on sites like this is generally par for the course.

I mean come on! Maybe everyone here hasn't fucked a 7, 8.9 but we've all seen them unless you are a shut in.

Every now and then, this forum gets into weird debate of how to scale girls. For the sake of common ground, I use the oThER major sex forum as the template of what constitutes a 7 or 8 and so on. Eighty percent of the many thousands of mongers of that forum concur as to what is what in appearance. Sure some members skew it with overly personalized ratings but a common denominator is generally reached among the mass.

For the members that state 10's don't exist or Victoria Secret models are 8's, well I have no idea what to say to that.

[Cruiser D]

Why even bother replying when you haven't been there? You are neither experienced in Chisinau or apparently Kiev. What is the sound of one hand clapping? Little Joey as he types a post on ISG.

You talking about Rio endlessly is about as interesting as you doing a cost comparison about the value menu at the McDonalds on Khreshatic, which I'm sure is probably next.

Just so there is no confusion about why the experienced members of the board react the way we do to you posts. Everything about your posts screams, I don't have a clue and apparently you are willing to write very long disjointed essays to that effect.

Please stop, it's extremely tedious. You can take girls out of Rio for sex, some are okay looking. We get it. Stop.

The board didn't jump back to life because you posted your 100th dissertation on Rio. It came roaring back to life because I started posting and some other senior members joined me. People that actually have something to say other than I went to Rio (Buddha Bar, GIA), my apartment, Arena to eat and then back to the airport.

Assuming you've read the thread on this forum for Chisinau and Kiev, and you are therefore aware that p4p is highly developed and available in Kiev, whereas in Chisinau the p4p scene is more limited, it's a no brainer that if you're looking for p4p action that you should go to Kiev.

However, if you are able to speak Russian and are looking for freebie action and adventure, then different criteria apply and since I've never been to Chisinau, I will defer trying to answer that question to someone who does have the experience to give you a meaningful response.

[Cruiser D]

The report of distinction area is the FAQ.

The map is a definitive newbies guide to Kiev. Too Funny. .

needs a FAQ.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...c9d40f14d29d51

[Cruiser D]

Only the FSU hotel security guys are looking for a hand out. If they try that at a Western hotel just laugh at them and continue on without breaking stride.

Hey Immy. It would have been very handy for R. P. Bit far out for me.

I imagine there's a fair chance security will sense a chance to line their pockets.