North China - Beijing

[Tony Knight]

http://www.sayoli.net/

This website came up as Lilly massage

[Chris42]

All. I'd appreciate your help with this. I met a lady and we'd like to find a hotel / spa for some private time. This is not overnight. Just during the day.

Do you know any spa / hotel in Beijing (not too far from the CBD) that will rent a room without asking for my passport or her I'd?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Tors Ham]

Homosexuality is legal and there are several gay bars in BJ. A lot of things that you do not see as a tourist.

I know there are gay bars here and there in China, I have even encountered lady boys in remote places, I lived there for 5 years and I have spent at least 8- 9 of my last 15 there, just not been to in Beijing that often, haven't even seen the great wall after all this years, but a lot of other things, it doesn't make me an expert but I hope I have experienced a little bit more than the normal tourist at least. But I stand corrected, it was sodomy that was banned and that indirectly banns homosexuality at least among men, I don't think it was so long ago so I guess a lot of moral taboos exist even if the law allows it today, and a lot of Chinese still thinks it's banned, and I heard rumors about crackdowns in gay clubs true or not I don't know but I assumed that it was still banned then. But I guess somewhere here is reason why it's difficult to get some bi 3 some action and why it's so rare to see gay couples walking around, in time it will change to be more like the rest of the world I guess.

Cheers

[Loveasiangirls]

That theory I think is in some part correct but not 100.

As long as sex doesn't sell the same way it does in west, you probably have to wait before its common that girls accept to take it in the bum and so on and correct me if I am wrong, I don't think homosexuality is legal. Or is it? But if it isn't you know why you have problems finding, The most extreme I have seen lately years is ads for SM activity starts to pop up more and more in men spa clubs.

Years ago I was visiting a temple during some Chinese holiday (can't remember witch holyday or temple not that interested) that had a whole section dedicated to sexual activities. I think it was the source of the yin yang thing and that man who built the temple. The interesting thing there was that it was OK for women to have sex, much sex and reaching climax was a god thing for them while for men it was more restrictive to reach climax and it was according to what I understand not god for men's health to reach climax in the same level as women. Men were supposed to hold back as long as possible and there was documented different ways on how to do that. And if I don't remember wrong it was OK to have different sexual partners. I realized then that sex wasn't just only sex for them, it was an form of art and sexual positions was well documented not only as an art form but also why and what happen when using certain position, and how to stimulate women to reach their climax, how to stimulate men without reaching, and so on. Anyway that man lived a long life with his philosophy having a lot of different partners, not the reason he is famous but I figure that a lot of those things still live in the Chinese culture, Spa, sauna and the different ways they stimulate you during those sessions. I still have an inner picture of an old favorite sauna girl, she sometimes started the sessions with ripping down my pants and gave me a bbj and just when I was about to burst she stopped and sent me to the bath room, and the skills she had to keep me in the zone and playing with me just woow.

Someone wrote. What do I miss paying 1000-1500 for a session compared to 300, well nothing I guess if shooting the load is the only thing that cunts, but if you like the teas and pleas and the complete package, the feeling of being completely pampered and satisfied walking out from a god sauna / spa, well for me nothing beats that. And I think if you don't get the chance to experience a really god spa / sauna girl that knows her things then you missed Chinese sex culture at its best and what it is about.

I think the culture make Chinese more sexual liberated than we think, and the fact that most marriages is not based on love, its more networking with someone they like and have a family that creates a even bigger network for their family probably makes the sidesteps more acceptable. The inching feeling for each other is just not there.

So I don't think it's only the numbers that makes it, it's more to it than that. Personally I prefer the pros, they have a bigger skill set than normal girls and in the end I only have one goal. To get off their pants and I think p4p saves me valuable time and gives me the satisfaction I am after. But if I had more time, China is probably the easiest place to find freebes, in fact I have never hunted them, they have hunted me, the few ones I had, and I am far from Brad Pitt in looks.

Anyway I have 3 days in Beijing soon and a little update with god bars / clubs to visit if I want to chase FL girls, or what's hot and what's not at the moment, and if anyone has a god spa / sauna to recommend I am grateful.

Cheers

Homosexuality is legal and there are several gay bars in BJ. A lot of things that you do not see as a tourist.

[Loveasiangirls]

I'm seeing one regularly, and I have another on chat (lives in Tianjin) who wants to try but has not yet had the chance. I'll be giving her that chance before long.

GM.

Yes, I have plenty of female friends or Gf who want to try but to find the 3rd is nearly impossible. Plenty of people looking on Craiglist as well.

[Gualtier Malde]

That theory I think is in some part correct but not 100.

Years ago I was visiting a temple during some Chinese holiday (can't remember witch holyday or temple not that interested) that had a whole section dedicated to sexual activities. I think it was the source of the yin yang thing and that man who built the temple. The interesting thing there was that it was OK for women to have sex, much sex and reaching climax was a god thing for them while for men it was more restrictive to reach climax and it was according to what I understand not god for men's health to reach climax in the same level as women. Men were supposed to hold back as long as possible and there was documented different ways on how to do that. And if I don't remember wrong it was OK to have different sexual partners. I realized then that sex wasn't just only sex for them, it was an form of art and sexual positions was well documented not only as an art form but also why and what happen when using certain position, and how to stimulate women to reach their climax, how to stimulate men without reaching, and so on. Anyway that man lived a long life with his philosophy having a lot of different partners, not the reason he is famous but I figure that a lot of those things still live in the Chinese culture, Spa, sauna and the different ways they stimulate you during those sessions.

You are describing classic Daoism (Taoism). The original Dao philosophy was essentially as you describe above. The woman has Yin, the man has Yang. Bringing a woman to orgasm releases her Yin, which is healthy for a man to receive. Therefore, the Dao taught the man to bring the woman to several orgasms before experiencing his own. Dao was essentially a sexual philosophy that became a religion over the ages.

I think the culture make Chinese more sexual liberated than we think, and the fact that most marriages is not based on love, its more networking with someone they like and have a family that creates a even bigger network for their family probably makes the sidesteps more acceptable. The inching feeling for each other is just not there.

Totally agree.

GM.

[Gualtier Malde]

I agree with your theory about numbers. Just a lot more of everything as there are more people. One exception though, very very hard to find a bi-girl for a 3-some!

I'm seeing one regularly, and I have another on chat (lives in Tianjin) who wants to try but has not yet had the chance. I'll be giving her that chance before long.

GM.

[FreebieFan]

Met a lady for a morning session in a hotel. She had stated on her website she was 36, when we talked she became 38 "ish" and when we met she admitted that her 40th birthday had passed a "few" years before. Never mind, I'm not 21 either.

I think the one I'm meeting tomorrow night falls into the same category, but now I know, to draw the curtains a bit, so that " you look better in the moonlight honey ".

Where are the 20 year olds when you need them!

[Tors Ham]

I agree with your theory about numbers. Just a lot more of everything as there are more people. One exception though, very very hard to find a bi-girl for a 3-some!

That theory I think is in some part correct but not 100.

As long as sex doesn't sell the same way it does in west, you probably have to wait before its common that girls accept to take it in the bum and so on and correct me if I am wrong, I don't think homosexuality is legal. Or is it? But if it isn't you know why you have problems finding, The most extreme I have seen lately years is ads for SM activity starts to pop up more and more in men spa clubs.

Years ago I was visiting a temple during some Chinese holiday (can't remember witch holyday or temple not that interested) that had a whole section dedicated to sexual activities. I think it was the source of the yin yang thing and that man who built the temple. The interesting thing there was that it was OK for women to have sex, much sex and reaching climax was a god thing for them while for men it was more restrictive to reach climax and it was according to what I understand not god for men's health to reach climax in the same level as women. Men were supposed to hold back as long as possible and there was documented different ways on how to do that. And if I don't remember wrong it was OK to have different sexual partners. I realized then that sex wasn't just only sex for them, it was an form of art and sexual positions was well documented not only as an art form but also why and what happen when using certain position, and how to stimulate women to reach their climax, how to stimulate men without reaching, and so on. Anyway that man lived a long life with his philosophy having a lot of different partners, not the reason he is famous but I figure that a lot of those things still live in the Chinese culture, Spa, sauna and the different ways they stimulate you during those sessions. I still have an inner picture of an old favorite sauna girl, she sometimes started the sessions with ripping down my pants and gave me a bbj and just when I was about to burst she stopped and sent me to the bath room, and the skills she had to keep me in the zone and playing with me just woow.

Someone wrote. What do I miss paying 1000-1500 for a session compared to 300, well nothing I guess if shooting the load is the only thing that cunts, but if you like the teas and pleas and the complete package, the feeling of being completely pampered and satisfied walking out from a god sauna / spa, well for me nothing beats that. And I think if you don't get the chance to experience a really god spa / sauna girl that knows her things then you missed Chinese sex culture at its best and what it is about.

I think the culture make Chinese more sexual liberated than we think, and the fact that most marriages is not based on love, its more networking with someone they like and have a family that creates a even bigger network for their family probably makes the sidesteps more acceptable. The inching feeling for each other is just not there.

So I don't think it's only the numbers that makes it, it's more to it than that. Personally I prefer the pros, they have a bigger skill set than normal girls and in the end I only have one goal. To get off their pants and I think p4p saves me valuable time and gives me the satisfaction I am after. But if I had more time, China is probably the easiest place to find freebes, in fact I have never hunted them, they have hunted me, the few ones I had, and I am far from Brad Pitt in looks.

Anyway I have 3 days in Beijing soon and a little update with god bars / clubs to visit if I want to chase FL girls, or what's hot and what's not at the moment, and if anyone has a god spa / sauna to recommend I am grateful.

Cheers

[Old South]

Hi,

How can I get their numbers?

Z

What can be the problem? I also forgot their numbers and I went to classified and found both Lily and Angle in 30 less then a minute.

I was in BJ for just one day and I had one girl from Angel and one from Lily, both wonderful experience and the qulity of these two were above and beyond what I would normally get in BJ, what is happening here?

OS

[GregoryB]

Hi,

How can I get their numbers?

Z

Hi "Z" you must pay to be able for mails (PM) : Phone nrs only there.

In the meantime just go to.

"classifieds" forum and check for Angels or Kitty.

Gregory

[Zhallart]

HI, check your mailbox.

GregoryB

Hi,

How can I get their numbers?

Z

[Loveasiangirls]

Before I came to China I would have never believed how many women here are players, either with or without their husbands' knowledge. I've had the opportunity to play with both types. In fact, I was just with one on Friday, invited to play with her by her husband. He observed but did not participate.

A few others I know just love screwing men. They can't get enough, so they play. Good for them!

I've thought about it a bit, and concluded that it isn't necessarily a cultural thing. It is just the pure numbers. If you think about how many people there are in this country, a small percentage of the women will either be players or seriously want to be players. While the percentage is small, it represents a lot of women, considering this is a country of over 1. 3 billion people.

So we get the benefit of large numbers. Sweet place to be!

GM.

Ps: I wouldn't completely discount the couple who fed you yet. Give them time.

I agree with your theory about numbers. Just a lot more of everything as there are more people. One exception though, very very hard to find a bi-girl for a 3-some!

[UnoMas]

So I played around with Momo, WeChat, Tagged, and Badoo for a while. Seems like Badoo and Tagged are mostly for foreigners, though some 30 and up Chinese women are on there as well. Tagged in a spam-athon and doesn't work very well. The girls on Momo look like something from a cartoon. All of them are blinged out with makeup and charms and poses. It seems that most girls are between 18 and 24, and anyone above 30 looks 20 years older than their stated age. Some kind of cronological divide. Most girls seem to ignore requests, probably due to the age gap, but a few respond. For someone like myself in my mid-30s though, WeChat seems to most successful. It is not purely a dating app, and actually the dating funtionality is a side-feature, giving it legitimacy with the SO around. The problem is, all of these are location-based, and being a person who has lived in Beijing for several years, many of the girls I chat with turn out to be connected to me in one way or another. One knew some of my friends, and another remembered seeing me at an event. Too dangerous for my chicken-ass. I have friends that invite their mistresses to parties where their wife is in attendance, and I don't know how they keep their cool. I am a paranoid ninja with all of this, constantly analyzing every movement and scrap of potential evidence, plugging every potential leak. I think I'll have to stick to MPs for now unless on a business trip.

[Knobrm]

Plenty of information in China Classifieds Ads section on Beijig providers.

HI all, so I RTFF, but can't find contact information for Angel, Maria or any of the other "reputable" out-call services. Where do I pick up that info?