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08-20-14 03:00 #2843
Posts: 969As long as we have recently been on the topic of age limits and [CodeWord908], I wanted to point out an excellent cover article and editorial in "The Economist" last week on prostitution. Anyone interested in the changing economics and demographics of prostitution should check it out.
In case any of you have never heard of it, The Economists is pretty much the best news magazine out there. It is a truly politically moderate publication and unaffected by the current partisan madness in the US. Its like Time magazine, but with a broader foreign events coverage, and much more intelligent. I think that it is the highest quality periodical of any kind.
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08-19-14 22:58 #2842
Posts: 7121What are you trying to tell me? There's no forced girls in flatrate clubs? Keep on dreaming. I know what I have seen in FKK clubs and I know what actions I have taken. Did you read about the Pussy Club trial in Stuttgart / Fellbach a few years ago? That was a Flatrate Club. So a girl dancing can't be trafficked? Good one. How naive can you be?
If you want to go on provoking with stupid stereotypes and if you don't want to see the dark side of the business and that you have certainly be fucking extorted or trafficked girls. Do so. Reality bites. I'll stop discussing that matter here, the facts have been stated, opinions exchanged.
HB.
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08-19-14 14:53 #2841
Posts: 2733Legal age
Originally Posted by HessenBub [View Original Post]
Where have you seen that? Did you call the police? Because if you see a crime in progress, you are obliged to inform the police (and even intervene if possible).
Since I got the idea from a recent post of yours that you don't do flatrate, I assume you saw that in an FKK- or Sauna-Club? I've never seen anybody at a flatrate place or a gangbang that gave me any idea about the girl not working there voluntarely. Sure, they all have their bad days sometimes. But if they hop around dancing in the lounge at 22:00 all happy and cheerful after already being fucked for 11 hours, then that doesn't strike me as someone who is forced into the business.
So (without having checked the links yet) I agree with Brazil Specialist for the most part. IMO the trafficking issue is blown out of proportion as much as the STD hysteria is. And all because the men seem to be unable to send the feminists back to the kitchen.
The age of consent in Germany may be 14, but you have to be 18 if you want to work as a prostitute.
Of course laws regarding porn apply as well. That creates the ridiculous sitution that theoretically a group of 40 year old guys could pick up two 16 year old girls at a disco and take them home for an orgy, if the girls consent to it and there is no money paid; but they do not dare take pictures of that action and then show those pics to the girls, because that would be offering pornographic photos to minors. (Same goes of course for a 40-year-old woman who would take in a group of 16-year-old boys. But I guess feminists wouldn't mind in this case.) So at 16, they are basically old enough to DO porn, (as long as it's not filmed or photographed) but are not allowed to watch it. Are there any countries where laws are more stupid?
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08-19-14 02:26 #2840
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by HessenBub [View Original Post]
It is hard topic for us monger to comment on and maybe our excuse is that girl we session with in German FKK is not exactly forced to work there, but based on my experience, there are some cases that some FKK girls actually has PIMP. For example, I met a lot of girls at FKK who tattooed their name of boyfriend from hells angel on her body. I mean is it part of kind of forced prostitution or is that their choice to be pimped by their boy friend who is member of hells angel or related parties. They all provide good service and I never felt un safe and by appearance girls seemed to be fine with the situation too. Or maybe just too naive to realize the situation.
Either way, I feel German FKK is handling this sad problem well as they can and that is one of the reason why prostitution was legalized in germany, so that it can be controlled by state to protect women and also clients from these negative side of sex industry. Nothing can be done perfectly.
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08-18-14 22:25 #2839
Posts: 7121Originally Posted by BrazilSpecialist [View Original Post]
http://www.bka.de/nn_194550/EN/SubjectsAZ/TraffickingInHumanBeings/traffickingInHumanBeings__node.html?__nnn=true
The age of consent in Germany may be 14, but you have to be 18 if you want to work as a prostitute. For girls under 21 criteria for trafficking are stricter than for girls over 21. You should stay with the facts and not post some obscure links and data not relevant for the discussion (age if consent of 14).
HB.
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08-18-14 20:53 #2838
Posts: 460The sex trafficking lie has been debunked over and over
Originally Posted by breadman [View Original Post]
the site www.theantifeminist.com and the sites in his blogroll deal with sex hysteria, history of feminism. he espouses the theory of feminism as a sexual trade union, where old hags make laws and invent stories (like trafficking) to make sure their men can not enjoy young lasses.
the antifeminist says: all feminists are [CodeWord127].
feminists prevent men from having sex not only with girls under an ever increasing age of consent, but also with their 30 year old secretaries (harassment laws and "power differential" restrictions), with women who are a bit tipsy, etc.
all this with the purpose to force men to have sex with the older hags. thus it is [CodeWord123].
ever since women got the vote, their first actions was to close brothels and to increase the age of consent. it used to be around 12, world wide, before about 1900. ever since feminists have been working hard to increase it. spain just increased it from 12 to 16.
germany, as far as i understand has age of consent 14. note that age of consent does not mean that girls that age should have sex.
it means that it is not necessary for government to meddle in private affairs and it is up to parents to watch and educate their kids over the age of consent.
feminists also try hard to restrict porn, every possible sexual outlet. though it has been proven by serious academic peer reviewed researcher milton diamond, that prohibiting porn causes more [CodeWord124] and sex crimes.
note also:
mandatory 15 years jail for photos of legal girl friend: you can have sex with them; just don't photograph them:
http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-do...hotograph-them
Originally Posted by manny51 [View Original Post]
i just had an aging professional hit on me, she must have been way over 35. she said that young girls are very immature. when i said that maybe the minimum age in the fkk should be 25, she wholeheartedly agreed.
now, trafficking is the favorite lie of feminists, repeated for a century.
the most famous trafficking activist, that spoke in the united nations general assembly and in the white house has been proven a fraud. this was on the cover of time (or newsweek).
somaly mam: her own story is a lie. she had auditions for girls to train to tell sob stories to a gullible press and international institutions.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/06/s...f-personality/
http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-do...afficking-hoax
http://mythofsextrafficking.********.ch/ sorry this was censored out, it had the word blog followed by the word spot.
it is all lies, by feminists allied with religious zealots, to prevent men from having sex.
there are a few articles about sex trafficking hoaxes during super bowl, where they claim there are thousands and no trafficked women are found.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...in_time_fo.php
http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-02-...titution-hoax/
recently britain had a several month long intense nationwide police hunt for trafficked women and found about three.
Originally Posted by mrho [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by hessenbub [View Original Post]
if trafficking is almost non-existent, if it is a feminist hoax, then there are not more 18 to 21 year old girls trafficked.
and also, there are certainly more 21 to 45 year old girls traficked then 50 to 70 year olds. so we should only allow girls over 50.
furthermore, if we have trafficked unfree people that make jogging shoes, we do not outlaw jogging shoes altogether. or put the minimum age for jogging shoe factory workers up to 21 or 25.
also, giving talent work visas to 18 year old illegals could stop sex trafficking of girls who are not allowed to do the sex work they want to do and thus get trafficked willingly.
some other potential sex trafficking has to do with men threatening a girl's family in their home country. this needs to be fought by putting the home country in order. prostitutes are better prey for extortion rackets because they earn more then a construction helper. but it does not have anything to do with prostitution per se.
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08-17-14 03:11 #2837
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by HessenBub [View Original Post]
It seems it will be bigger than Artemis. It even says it will have casino. Which I do not care much as I am already gambling with girls how good their service will be in the room.
Sometimes I hit Jackpot and I get more than fkk house promised to clients. Sometimes, not. , but when I hit jackpot and make right decision choosing right girl, it is worth it.
It will even be more competition for FKk artemis, if this new fkk decides to set their entrance fee and session fee with girls cheaper than Artemis!
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08-16-14 22:49 #2836
Posts: 7121It's going to be like 25 km from Berlin city center. Hope it will be more successful than Paradise in Saarbrücken.
HB.
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08-16-14 21:17 #2835
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by Sucker17 [View Original Post]
Artemis is easy to leach both by taxi and public transport and for this reason, artemis had been real convenient to me.
However, there will be competition for Artemis, so they need to improve somethings to keep repeating customers.
Opening of new big (scale fkk has synergy affect that should lead to increase in level of girls and should put smile on our face.
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08-16-14 16:05 #2834
Posts: 580Good news indeed
Originally Posted by Sucker17 [View Original Post]
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08-16-14 13:46 #2833
Posts: 368Good news for Berlin
Somebody must have heard your wishes! A new FKK Grand Plaza is about to open in the Potsdam area, officially the 15th of October. I highly anticipate more competition for Artemis and their high pricelevel!
http://www.fkk-sauna-clubs.de/potsda...and-plaza.html
Originally Posted by MrHo [View Original Post]
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08-15-14 00:34 #2832
Posts: 293Birthday (surprise)
No one told you this, but if you get free entry on your birthday, they line up all the girls to give you a spanking.
Originally Posted by Sucker17 [View Original Post]
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08-14-14 07:00 #2831
Posts: 368Thank you for the replies. I managed to find info about the NRW clubs but since I'll be in Frankfurt due to work it won't be possible to visit those clubs. I guess Palace is possible, but I am a bit hesitant about going there. The last time was no thrill to be exact.
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08-14-14 02:43 #2830
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by Sucker17 [View Original Post]
Berlin need bit more competition because there is just Artemis. Berlin need other big FKK club and I feel there is demand for it in Berlin considering it is one of man tourist destination in Germany and considering the messe / trade shows that takes place there in frequent basis.
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08-14-14 00:36 #2829
Posts: 3480Originally Posted by UltraHappy [View Original Post]
Other clubs that offer free entrance are Yin Yang, Goldentime, Living Room, Samya and Bernds.