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[ThousandMiles]

These are from medical journals:

In July of this last year- 1998-99 reference year when the aids epidemic was at its peak and ART was not at its peak, a group in Spain published an excellent paper from serodiscordant couples, who were heterosexuals, where they evaluated for risks of HIV transmission through unprotected oral sex, and in over 19,000 unprotected oral-genital contacts with HIV-infected partners, there was not a single case of seroconversion to HIV.

Roger Detels paper in which 232 men out of 2,915 MSM were followed and two of those reported no anal-genital sex in the seroconversion period in which their infection was detected, but in fact only one of those could be reliably reported as being inside the range of this infection period and so this very early data goes back and shows extremely low risk. This was again giver of BJ who was at risk.

The documented case that I spoke in my last post on HIV through BJ which was so rare that it was documented. Point to note. Case in this report did involve a man getting bitten when he received oral sex and also involved the presence of blood.

G. Bratt et. Al. International Journal of STD & AIDS 1997.

Vol. 8 pages 522-525.

S. Edwards, C. Carne.

Sexually Transmitted Infections.

1998 Vol. 74 #1 pages 6-10.

Concentrations of the HIV virus in saliva are so low; chances of infection are realistically extremely small. Receiving oral sex would only pose a significant risk if there were visible blood in the persons mouth. Because people do not normally have visible blood in their mouth, the risks of infection are extremely low or negligible. And I stand by my first post.

2002 medical journal in SFO reported 20 cased (7%) as being infected with HIV on account of Oral sex. But subsequent papers couldn't prove if they indeed never had any unprotected sex apart from just Oral Sex.

The HIV-1 pandemic has been ascribed primarily to bloodborne, vertical, and sexual transmission of the virus. 1 Oral transmission from infected salivary secretions, genital secretions, or breast milk2 does not seem to be as efficient.

Limits on oral transmission of HIV-1 Medical Panel: Myron S Cohen, Diane C Shugars, Susan A Fiscus.

And to keep my post neutral this is one which states that Oral sex is risky. But there is no documented evidence in any of its references which can be used to go for HIV from BJ.

Although most of the several dozen case reports to date have been of receptive oral intercourse, it should be noted that there have been reports of HIV transmission associated with insertive fellatio as well as two reports of transmission associated with cunnilingus and one of insertive anilingus. The presence of inflammation in the mouth, caused by sores, trauma, or infection is described in some of these reports. The relative rarity of cases of HIV infection attributed to oral transmission is likely to be influenced by the rarity with which oral exposure has occurred without other forms of penetrative sexual contact and the tendency of attributing HIV transmission to any higher risk exposure which can be identified.

And one of the favorite article which states that it is possible (you need to read it in detail to understand and also the numbers) It states it is possible:

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/37/6/1255.full

Theoretically, anything and everything is possible. But realistically, the chances are.

Receptive Oral Sex- 0.01% - Odds 0 to 1 in 7000 (almost close to 0).

Giver for Oral Sex- 0.04% - Odds 0 to 1 in 2500.

All the above data is from Medical forum and Google will land you to some of these pages as well. My last post on this topic. I had worked in this area with NGO so am slightly aware and was taken aback by the language of the below post and hence went in depth to reply to the one liner. I always stand by take care and stay safe.

Do you even Google? There are tonnes of cases where HIV was transmitted through oral sex. Heck, there are people who have got it just from DFK.

[Hank75]

Do you even Google? There are tonnes of cases where HIV was transmitted through oral sex. Heck, there are people who have got it just from DFK.

You are wrong. Please read medhelp where specialists answer these questions. HIV is not transmitted by DFK and there is no documented evidence of it being transmitted by oral sex (unless you are given a BJ by a vampire).

[DesiMan1]

Good review. Just wanted to update on a generic point. If the girl is looking very young make sure that she is legal age. If not; or doesn't look; or you don't get the confidence please don't venture. I have couple of times refused after seeing the girl both from ethical point and also legal implications. The law is very tough on girl complaints and arrests.

For this very reason I did not try Mona's girl although she was offering her for 4-5 K full night outcall. She just would not confirm that the girl was not [CodeWord902]. The girl seems quite cheerful but it is never worth the risk with potential [CodeWord902] girls IMO.

[DesiMan1]

Bro,

Share t contact. I have something similar. College gals.

Prepare to lose your contact and get nothing back if you're foolish enough to share first with this guy.

[DesiMan1]

As to STD yes its possible and that is a clear risk in both the cases. Good part is most of these STDs are curable. Bad part is that it can remain hidden inside you and you may pass it across to people you care.

So what are the recommended tests to get done to confirm you're not carrying STDs and not passing them on to your non WG sex partners?

[DesiMan1]

In Shanghai you can get Chinese as well as Russians. Best and safe practice is to call the spa that is in the hotel ask them for massage at room your own room.

All girls there offer HJ and rest is on you. But remember they are very money minded and you will need to negotiate when she is holding your Jonny.

And that Makes it difficult. Like really difficult.

The massages in hotel are expensive if you are staying at a five star or 4 star hotel it will cost 600 to 800 RMB just for massage. Plus 300 to 500 for extra.

You can also use Chirags L that also works. But. Negotiations are tough. And they are too greedy.

The spa girls are normally the one who come from rural China. Normally petite and small. But all are hygienic and have amazing skin.

If you get one from Chirag list they are glamours. Really glamours. Nothing that you can ever get in India. These ones are bad in massage.

And there are many spa almost everywhere and they will be a lot cheaper.

I never had a great experience with the in hotel massages in Shanghai. Go out for a walk find some spas. Much better VFM.

[DesiMan1]

Hi friends,

I am new to this site as well as to Bangalore. Interested to try out some MPs. I really don't know anyone here. Don't know whom to ask help or support. Couldn't figure out any MPs names which provides good service. I don't have any contacts to reciprocate your help. But your help will be something special to me. Hope I will make some good friends here and get introduced to the senior persons. I would love to mingle with the group. Your suggestions will help me to cope up with the group to have more lively fun.

Thanks and cheers to everyone.

Buy a subscription and activate your PM. I will send you some MP details to start you off. Without PM no one can help you.

[ThousandMiles]

No, don't think so. I had checked in medical journal. Can you PM me those cases. Google is not always right in these cases. When I said documented cases these are medical cases whee the reason for the same can be contributed to only oral sex leading to HIV. DFK, BBBJ and Datty have never been the root cause of HIV. Most of these cases have been coupled with sex with non protection. HIV doesn't spread through saliva. It can spread if both the partners have open sores in their mouth and bleeding gums. Then also the chances are rare as the volume of HIV present in these cases is difficult to infect. Can you please PM me the source where any medical journal or aids society forum has documented any cases which have led to this HIV. Couldn't find any medical forum or doctors forum which have any of these cases. I would like to be corrected and can you please direct me to few cases where it was transmitted and confirmed that it happened through Oral Sex. I am talking only about HIV. The only documented cases in medical journal (Don't remember the number but very few and in few of that there were non protection sexual homo encounter) was from the case of people who were giver of BJ and not receiver. And I do Google; but this information is from Medical Fraternity. If wrong, I would love to send it to my friends for correction and hear from them.

Do you even Google? There are tonnes of cases where HIV was transmitted through oral sex. Heck, there are people who have got it just from DFK.

[Pratyu123]

Met her two weeks before. Very good GFE. She is ready for out call also. I will suggest forum members to avoid in call, place is not safe.

Total damage- 4000 for 2 shots.

Why are you over paying? She comes down to 3 k for 2 shots. My exp. She is not even worth 3 k. Her place is unsafe. No fans. She is just mechanical.

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[Romance11]

It is going to be very warm at this time. Even walking around will be a great effort. The best time between Nov- Feb. I am scheduling my next trip in Nov-Dec (before Christmas). The room rates are reasonable at the time.

Thanks for the suggestion dude.

[Eliksir]

there is no single documented cases of receiver of BBBJ getting HIV and giver of DATY getting HIV.

Do you even Google? There are tonnes of cases where HIV was transmitted through oral sex. Heck, there are people who have got it just from DFK.

[StudIndia]

I guess Victoria NE is back. Asking for reference.

Can someone provide a reference I can use?

Hi Banglore brothers,

Where has Victoria NE gone too? From her watsapp status it appears she has left Bangalore.

Any leads on her whereabouts would be welcome.

[OLoveIt]

I am also looking for some nice phone sex contacts. Those who talks Malayalam and English.

In Shanghai you can get Chinese as well as Russians. Best and safe practice is to call the spa that is in the hotel ask them for massage at room your own room.

All girls there offer HJ and rest is on you. But remember they are very money minded and you will need to negotiate when she is holding your Jonny.

And that Makes it difficult. Like really difficult.

The massages in hotel are expensive if you are staying at a five star or 4 star hotel it will cost 600 to 800 RMB just for massage. Plus 300 to 500 for extra.

You can also use Chirags L that also works. But. Negotiations are tough. And they are too greedy.

The spa girls are normally the one who come from rural China. Normally petite and small. But all are hygienic and have amazing skin.

If you get one from Chirag list they are glamours. Really glamours. Nothing that you can ever get in India. These ones are bad in massage.

And there are many spa almost everywhere and they will be a lot cheaper.

[ThousandMiles]

Thanks for reading and most importantly being aware of it. HIV doesn't spread through BBBJ and DATY. Theoretically yes it can; but there is no single documented cases of receiver of BBBJ getting HIV and giver of DATY getting HIV. I said theoretically yes; because it is possible and we can come up with various incidental circumstances which can lead to this like bleeding gums coupled with Vaginal fluid having traces of menstrual blood etc. But the risk is negligible or close to zero. As to STD yes its possible and that is a clear risk in both the cases. Good part is most of these STDs are curable. Bad part is that it can remain hidden inside you and you may pass it across to people you care.

Hello fellow mongers,

I have been following all the reports.

Continuously for almost a month and just wanted to provide.

Some advice. Noticed most of the fellow mongers are very.

Much interested in BBBJ and DATY.

I googled multiple websites about HIV and STD. They have.

Mentioned the virus could spread even from BBBJ and DATY, so better please avoid. Use cover from beginning.

To end. Just an advice. Its up to you whether to follow or not.