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09-09-16 17:55 #16005
Posts: 732Originally Posted by Uoykucf [View Original Post]
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09-09-16 12:54 #16004
Posts: 332I fully agree. It is hard for us, given our background, to act that way. We have been taught to respect women too much. Whereas that might be necessary at the workplace or with strangers, but not when you are in a relationship, long or short. When you get to the bedroom, even more so, particularly for Eastern European Women. Western women are too brainwashed by feminism, and even if they enjoy the private time, might regret it the next day, or week, or year. Read up on the trial of Ghomeshi in Canada. The guy liked rough sex, and the girls liked it, until they talked with their girlfriends and reasserted their feminist ideals. Luckily, he persevered in court, but lost his job, and lost his status in society.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ling-1.3504250
Anyway, back to Ukrainian girls, I never mistreat them, but I am decisive outside the bedroom and certainly dominant in the bedroom. It is the only way they will give you good sex. So, do not be rude, but do not be a pushover either. They actually appreciate a polite but forceful man; for them it is a break from the Ukrainian assholes they usually meet.
Originally Posted by JonathanPine [View Original Post]
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09-09-16 12:51 #16003
Posts: 75Kiev this year is definitely worse than last year, price wise and quality wise, IMHO.
Kiev this year is definitely worse than last year, price wise and quality wise, IMHO.
You may think you get a better deal because of the better exchange rate, but you are WRONG! The girls, especially the better looking ones quote prices in dollars or Euros, 100 $, 200 $.
Lots of agencies pretend to be girls, bait and switch. You've got to be really careful.
For people who want quick P 4 P, pros seem to be the only viable option this year unless you are into old be's, women in their 40's and up; so you might as well go elsewhere, where the pastures are greener.
Don't even mention all the scams that are going around as many have pointed out on this forum.
Think about it for a moment: Is it worth the time, money and the trouble to come here to Kiev for sex?
Good luck to you all. (Blink).
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09-09-16 12:17 #16002
Posts: 75Been here 6 days already; Haven't Found anything that excites me!
I am into only young girls.
I've been here 6 days already, but I haven't found anything that excites me in the up to $100 range!
Only average looking girls next door types around this price range, usually short, small built, too thin, a bit overweight or big built, nothing comes close to standard model figure; so no sex for me yet.
If I have to shell out more than that or have sex with averaging looking girls, I might as well just stay home, where things are better and cheaper.
If I were a sex tourist here (which I am not) , I wouldn't have stayed, and would not come back because there are better pastures elsewhere.
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09-08-16 16:43 #16001
Posts: 2844What you need to do first?
Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
Before you start with anything else. You didn't mention kissing her hand at your first meeting, looking straight into her eyes and in a sexy voice tell her.
"— after all, one must start somewhere" LOL.
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09-08-16 16:25 #16000
Posts: 74No no no, Michi! No!
First, have backup plans in case it doesn't workout with this 39 year old woman. You don't want to be stranded in Kiev by yourself. Before you go, arrange for plan be, see, the,.
Second, don't pre pay her hotel room yet. Yon can book it, but don't pay for it yet.
Thirdly, take her for a walk, maybe to a cafe, you'll need to know that she's genuine before you take her to an expensive restaurant.
Locals guys wouldn't simply take some girls to expensive restaurants without first having a sponsorship deal. No sex, no expensive dinner!
Just because you can afford a nice dinner doesn't mean you should. If you do that in Ukraine without demanding sex in return, she'll lose all respect for you.
It's a fucked up mentality I know. But you need to play hard ball with them. I learned it the hard way. Someone, I think it's Riina on the board says that if you accommodate them, you'll open yourself up for manipulation. Very well said. I'll also add that if you accommodate them, you'll bring out their worst behavior.
Treat them like dogs, if they lick your dick. Then you throw them a bone. If they don't play ball, kick them to the curb. Punish them. Now before anybody accuses me of being a *******, I can tell you I'm anything but. It's just the dynamics between local men and women. You must play hard ball with them. No mercy, make no exceptions. The only language they understand is strength.
And don't worry about offending them. Trust me, they're used to this treatment from local guys and expecting it from you. If you don't do it, they'll think you're a fool and will only try to extract money from you without fucking you.
Be tough, Michi! Now go score one for the team!
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09-08-16 14:16 #15999
Posts: 201I agree with Russel.
But just to have a expensive dinner, give good tips etc. All of these are fine, but by the end of the day NO guarantee for a bang if she isn't a pro.
LMR is very wide spread among Russians / Ukrainians.
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09-08-16 13:57 #15998
Posts: 50Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
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09-08-16 13:44 #15997
Posts: 50Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
There is also a Russian version called "Potential". It is about half the price of Kongra. However, even I am not brave enough to trust Russian pharmaceuticals (especially in Ukraine).
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09-08-16 08:44 #15996
Posts: 480Act like a local
Originally Posted by JonathanPine [View Original Post]
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09-07-16 17:17 #15995
Posts: 74Hold your ground, put your foot down
Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
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09-07-16 17:09 #15994
Posts: 732Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
Every individual girl has to be evaluated. The more beautiful and experienced, the more manipulation you can expect. I like the college age GND's, it just seems to stay more honest.
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09-07-16 16:47 #15993
Posts: 480Originally Posted by Riina [View Original Post]
Would I have to act differently in Ukraine? Can you please describe?
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09-07-16 15:21 #15992
Posts: 732Originally Posted by Stevie69 [View Original Post]
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09-07-16 08:41 #15991
Posts: 480Originally Posted by Russel4339 [View Original Post]