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  1. #2450

    Commentary on Spas, Line App and Sidelines in CM

    Sorry not a trip report but rather some commentary info on App use in CM and Spas and limited info on Sideline.

    Location based apps such as Wechat are a no go for CM. CM is strictly a Line ID place. Because of the amount of PRC tourists that is all you will find on Wechat. For a while only ladyboys in CM used Wechat but even they have given up as Thais were basically swamped out of it. Line is the only way to go in CM.

    Anyhow. I have the Line ID of some 23 Spas in CM that cater primarily for Thais (so we are not talking about Celebrity or Sayuri). A basic level of Thai is critical for most (but not all of these places). Most accept Farang no problems, others are a bit exclusive and you being there can actually put Thai penis envy punters off returning so some businesses are just an absolute no. And to quote Racey "some girls will, some girls won't" as far as having a farang client. Sort it out on Line first do not waste your time or theirs. Girls are all in their early 20's at latest, some uni, all small framed, baby damage nil, silicone nil though very few have the odd nose jobs, even tattoos are pretty much a nil. This is what the local Thai demographics requires.

    Most have daily updates on their Line ID with information and photos of who is working when, promotional deals, and a few cost outline or services.

    If you are familiar with Thai and want to give it a go you could start with these as illustrative:

    Raspeberry Spa is a good example of a daily updated Line home page. There Line ID has picture of the girls, new starters, who is on roster so you can reserve a favourite if you want.

    Little Mermaid Spa will take Farangs no problem. Some English is spoken there, not a lot by any means, some days none. It is a favourite of visiting Chinese Singaporeans who again are not big fans of Issan tans and there are a few fairer toned Chiang Rai girls that speak Mandarin. Has pictures of who is on shift and is open noon till midnight. This is probably the easiest one to get to as off Chang Klan.

    Miss Spa is an example of one of the bigger spas. So popular that a few of their Line accounts reached maximum subscribers and hence the 02 addition to the current Line ID. There Line ID web page often shows costs (IE B2B 1600) and phone number and hours open (10.00 am to 2. 00 am) so handy for the early in the day time.

    If you are taking a tuk tuk ask for a landmark (restaurant or bar is a good idea) by Line or Google map away otherwise expect to pay more. I ride an mc so not much help there but for Little Mermaid there are a heap of bars / restaurants and as said it is just of Chang Klan which has numerous drop off points. I think the Singaporeans get dropped off at some Korean restaurant opposite so maybe find out the name of that. Having said that. Its August and will soon be persisting down.

    There are SideLine agents. I have two Line Ids and am known to them I am sorry but I am reluctant to post their Line ID's as do not want them flooded with google translate requests. I basically use them now and rarely go to the Spas except when there is a new girl and / or a promotion and a day time visit. Night time more uni students are off so a lot better with sidelines. CM being an uni town there are basically oodles of sidelines. Again, not all farang friendly as some are just plain scared of size, language problems, body odour, services required, etc etc, you name it.

    I would personally stay away from some of the web based Thai sideline forums featuring adverts for CM, not so much an issue with tracking but rather some "sideline" girls seem to have been at University for many many many years and really not up to the standard for spas or agents and I think this is why they freelance as sidelines. A lot of these girls have photos on their Line ID and I have sincere doubts (standard of Thai university education notwithstanding) that they would want a brother, uncle father neighbour finding out. Here I am talking about smaller Thai sites like nongsldotcom.

    If you can speak Thai then there is an option to pick up the Line Ids for sideline agents the way I did, which is talking to Thai clients in the Spas and mentioning it to the girls when there was a bit of a click and I asked for their Line ID, most gave their ID if clicked, and a few gave agents Line. Once I has agents I was happy with, and they were happy with me I stopped following up on that.

    Anyhow. It is a lot better than some believe and Loi Kroh just presents as the far smaller and easier option but realistically some Thai language skills are required not only in making arrangements but also when in the room makes everything run a lot smoother. No Thai, and tourists on a short stay or digital gonads or slackpackers or begpackers etc then Loi Kroh is your go or Celeb as a walk then Sayuri / Pandora by tuk tuk. Celeb is not that bad and an easy walk down a soi from the night market. You can get a feed and a drink one the way back Also in Celeb (sorry have not been to the others in yonks) you can take drinks bought on premises up to the room, so LEO can be a conversation lubricant. They will bring up glasses, ice, Large LEO etc while the tub is filling. It makes things run a bit smoother and have no probs eating into your 90 minutes. I just find Celeb a lot more accommodating if I am in town for parking, familiarity, un-rushed service, welcoming, non discriminatory pricing. As I recall it opens from about 1.00 pm ish and has a shift and closes around midnight if you are not already in (so to speak). If I was staying in a hotel on holidays I would not be bothered with the others, Celeb for me is just that convenient I would say that the majority of Loi Kroh will not see their 30th birthday again, and equally a few not see their feet on the 7/11 scales again. The good ones have bfs, have gone, or are in Bangkok. There are some diamonds, but there is a lot of stone.

    If anyone wants more Line Ids then I will add a heap of current ones but I say again really no use for the vast majority unless you speak (and better write) reasonable Thai, and establish that they are Farang friendly (and most are) otherwise they just do not respond or give up.

  2. #2449
    Quote Originally Posted by SirWilliam4  [View Original Post]
    Went to Shower Massage located in the Riverside Hotel yesterday. Short walk from the Night Market area.

    Walked in about 2 pm. Papasan escorted me in the door. Fishbowl with about a dozen ladies. (Probably a lot more later in the evening.) Not one of them paid any attention to me, but understandable when the papasan told me it was one-way glass and they couldn't see out. No real stunners; no real uglies. A nice collection of fives and sixes, I'd say. 1400 thb for 1-1/2 hours of "everything". There was a group of sideliners sitting off in a dark corner (1800) but I did not walk over to look too closely.

    Picked #24 because she looked thin and the best of the bunch. Off to the room. Clothes came off to reveal an okay body with no baby damage, but not really outstanding either. A- breasts and not much of a waist. Did all the usual, including a trip to the bath tub. She attempted to be nice, but all-in-all it was a "ho-hum" sort of experience. Got the job done. Didn't cost a fortune.

    WIR? Not with #24. Might try my luck one more time another day.

    SW4.
    Well good sweet Jesus son of Mary, someone finally posted some new and useful information on this thread after many months of mostly hot air. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  3. #2448

    Hummus

    Yes, very dull I know. Sorry. But does anyone know if I can buy hummus in either rimping supermarket (nim city) or the smaller big see supermarket just off sridonchai Road? I think the big see super supercenter sells it, but it's too far from me. Many thanks.

  4. #2447
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I do post my experiences on picking up sideline girls and other freelancers from the Internet, even have my own user blog.





    Please do tell. It would be a welcome change to the complaining about Badoo, escort websites, massage places and the sideline websites, and so on. Please share your ultimate wisdom and conquests with the dating websites, chat apps and freelancers. I really want to learn from the Chiangmai master. I'm not being sarcastic, this is a sincere request, I'm waiting to hear about them so I can use the info on my upcoming trip.
    There was a troll who tagged along with every post I made. Eventually he got banned. I am wondering if you are that same poster, either reincarnated or maybe have two or more IDs on here.

    We will see.

  5. #2446

    Chiangmai visit.

    Heading back to Chiangmai shortly again and it's nice to see others are having success here. It's a welcome change to the dribble of one who always complains about there being no action and online is not good and no freelancers and so on. Way to go guys. I will follow suit and report my anticipated success. I'm already making contacts with many freelancers part time and full time on the chat apps and dating sites. The beer bars seem like a great bet and the videos of Bangkok 1112 on You tube are a great help to navigate the area. I plan on going to Spicies night club as well for some freelancer pick ups.

  6. #2445

    Shower Massage

    Went to Shower Massage located in the Riverside Hotel yesterday. Short walk from the Night Market area.

    Walked in about 2 pm. Papasan escorted me in the door. Fishbowl with about a dozen ladies. (Probably a lot more later in the evening.) Not one of them paid any attention to me, but understandable when the papasan told me it was one-way glass and they couldn't see out. No real stunners; no real uglies. A nice collection of fives and sixes, I'd say. 1400 thb for 1-1/2 hours of "everything". There was a group of sideliners sitting off in a dark corner (1800) but I did not walk over to look too closely.

    Picked #24 because she looked thin and the best of the bunch. Off to the room. Clothes came off to reveal an okay body with no baby damage, but not really outstanding either. A- breasts and not much of a waist. Did all the usual, including a trip to the bath tub. She attempted to be nice, but all-in-all it was a "ho-hum" sort of experience. Got the job done. Didn't cost a fortune.

    WIR? Not with #24. Might try my luck one more time another day.

    SW4.

  7. #2444

    Ice

    Quote Originally Posted by Mostek6502  [View Original Post]
    Visited CM in July, many excellent experiences, some follow.

    One girl I met at the east gate. She worked for a courier company and started work at 09:00. We agreed to meet at 08:00, she called twice to say she was on her way, and at 08:50 she turned up. While waiting some cute Chinese girls came over and we started chatting. They then asked for me to take photos with them feeding the birds. Thank you lovely girls, their English was very good. I should have suggested we join up and go for a day out together. Stupid me. Anyway, we go into a cafe and ordered mango and sticky rice. She was a bit heavy for a Thai girl, but had a very pretty face. We only chatted for ten minutes and she was late for work. I thought I would give her a miss. She was 34, no children.

    Two days later she calls me and says she is coming to the hotel. "oh, OK then. ". Lucky for me I was uncommitted, So she turns up with an overnight bag. We go out for good dinner and return to the hotel. Have shower separately and she puts on her "cozies" and gets into bed (why do Thai girls always wear clothes to bed). I told her to drop all the clothes and get into bed. This was three weeks ago now, but I can recall that she was extraordinary, her enthusiasm was unbelievable. She absolutely loved it. She was very noisy and came hard several times. I could feel her clamping on me like a vice. After we have a nice chat and go to sleep. I wake in the morning with her giving me a fantastic BJ, we went for it and then showered. I reached for my wallet and she was absolutely aghast! I said "no, you said you collected banknotes". I gave her a A $20 note which she was very happy to have. We had breakfast and she went to work, and that was it. How good was that! She drops out of the sky into my bed and then leaves the next day not wanting anything. I love this place.

    Another encounter was a girl who had just posted herself on TF, I think only the day before, in the title she said she was freelancing (A friend told her to be honest in the description), We chat and agree to meet. Attractive, fantastic body, she went to the gym everyday. Her name was Ice, 33. She arrives on her motor scooter and we chat. Would you like a beer? Yes, ok. We walk to 7-11 buy some chiangs and chips. We watch TV, share the beers, she tells me about herself. She has just finished a professional masseuse course (she has photo of the diploma) and is short of money, so thought that freelancing might do it. I was her first customer. I took lots of photos and videos and when I asked her what she wanted, she said 1000 baht. I gave her 1500. I called her a few days later and this time picked her up from her apartment. We went out for dinner this time and had another great time and I offered her 1500 and she said, you bought me dinner, 1000 is OK. I have seen on her posts on line that she has met a guy her own age. Best of luck to her, she was really nice.

    I was looking for a girl on Loi Kroh Road. The bars at the entrance to where the Muay Thai ring is had three absolutely stunning girls and I was going to have a beer and choose one of them. I asked one of them and she wanted 2000ST. I refused, I thought it was too much after getting lucky for next to nothing the last week (many stories omitted) . I left. As I walked back to my car I started talking to a ladyboy and a freelancer. Very interesting stories about life. The freelancer started handling my junk through my shorts and I weakened. She was in her 30's, asked for 1200 baht. Took her back to the hotel and I could not do it. She did try very hard to get me in the mood, but to no avail. The fear of what I might catch scared the life out of me. She was a bit upset I could not do it and suggested I did not need to pay her. I paid her what she asked, and she walked herself out of the hotel. I had never picked up a freelancer before.

    I have found that polite conversation with girls on TF and then Line produces good results. Many girls just want a break from life, farangs offer this without anyone catching them out.

    Sorry, no photos. The quality of photos ISG is rubbish and does not do the girls justice.
    Interesting your story about Ice (33) on TF and was going to thank you for the heads up.

    So I went onto TF looking for Ice (33) freelancer, Chiang Mai. Just to make sure I searched for girls, 30 to 35 in Chiang Mai. Ice, Chiang Mai, freelancer, not a sign of her. Oh, she just happened to meet a guy of her own age after you. Darn, missed the boat again.

  8. #2443

    Chiang Mai Advantures

    Visited CM in July, many excellent experiences, some follow.

    One girl I met at the east gate. She worked for a courier company and started work at 09:00. We agreed to meet at 08:00, she called twice to say she was on her way, and at 08:50 she turned up. While waiting some cute Chinese girls came over and we started chatting. They then asked for me to take photos with them feeding the birds. Thank you lovely girls, their English was very good. I should have suggested we join up and go for a day out together. Stupid me. Anyway, we go into a cafe and ordered mango and sticky rice. She was a bit heavy for a Thai girl, but had a very pretty face. We only chatted for ten minutes and she was late for work. I thought I would give her a miss. She was 34, no children.

    Two days later she calls me and says she is coming to the hotel. "oh, OK then. ". Lucky for me I was uncommitted, So she turns up with an overnight bag. We go out for good dinner and return to the hotel. Have shower separately and she puts on her "cozies" and gets into bed (why do Thai girls always wear clothes to bed). I told her to drop all the clothes and get into bed. This was three weeks ago now, but I can recall that she was extraordinary, her enthusiasm was unbelievable. She absolutely loved it. She was very noisy and came hard several times. I could feel her clamping on me like a vice. After we have a nice chat and go to sleep. I wake in the morning with her giving me a fantastic BJ, we went for it and then showered. I reached for my wallet and she was absolutely aghast! I said "no, you said you collected banknotes". I gave her a A $20 note which she was very happy to have. We had breakfast and she went to work, and that was it. How good was that! She drops out of the sky into my bed and then leaves the next day not wanting anything. I love this place.

    Another encounter was a girl who had just posted herself on TF, I think only the day before, in the title she said she was freelancing (A friend told her to be honest in the description), We chat and agree to meet. Attractive, fantastic body, she went to the gym everyday. Her name was Ice, 33. She arrives on her motor scooter and we chat. Would you like a beer? Yes, ok. We walk to 7-11 buy some chiangs and chips. We watch TV, share the beers, she tells me about herself. She has just finished a professional masseuse course (she has photo of the diploma) and is short of money, so thought that freelancing might do it. I was her first customer. I took lots of photos and videos and when I asked her what she wanted, she said 1000 baht. I gave her 1500. I called her a few days later and this time picked her up from her apartment. We went out for dinner this time and had another great time and I offered her 1500 and she said, you bought me dinner, 1000 is OK. I have seen on her posts on line that she has met a guy her own age. Best of luck to her, she was really nice.

    I was looking for a girl on Loi Kroh Road. The bars at the entrance to where the Muay Thai ring is had three absolutely stunning girls and I was going to have a beer and choose one of them. I asked one of them and she wanted 2000ST. I refused, I thought it was too much after getting lucky for next to nothing the last week (many stories omitted) . I left. As I walked back to my car I started talking to a ladyboy and a freelancer. Very interesting stories about life. The freelancer started handling my junk through my shorts and I weakened. She was in her 30's, asked for 1200 baht. Took her back to the hotel and I could not do it. She did try very hard to get me in the mood, but to no avail. The fear of what I might catch scared the life out of me. She was a bit upset I could not do it and suggested I did not need to pay her. I paid her what she asked, and she walked herself out of the hotel. I had never picked up a freelancer before.

    I have found that polite conversation with girls on TF and then Line produces good results. Many girls just want a break from life, farangs offer this without anyone catching them out.

    Sorry, no photos. The quality of photos ISG is rubbish and does not do the girls justice.

  9. #2442

    Chiang Mai Sayuri soap place

    So folks went to Sayuri tonight.

    Prices were far ahead of the quality! Top row girls 3000, second 2500 and third 2200.

    Picked one from the top row as she looked hot, was nice but rushed the bath routine in the.

    Dingy bath, 20 second blow and couple of positions. And all over, let us leave. In and out in.

    30 min, damage 3000 THB (100 $).

    Don't know why it features as cheap and good in most internet searches!

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  10. #2441

    Absolute Angels Bangkok.

    This escort agency has a Chiang Mai section, so I made inquires.

    Hi.

    I am an English expat living in Chiang Mai and would like to hire a real female escort (no ladyboys or transgender) from your agency who is based in Chiang Mai and not having to travel up from somewhere else.

    Not concerned about the costs.

    Look forward to your reply.

    Thanks.

    THE RESPONSE:

    Good Morning Sir.

    Thank you for contacting Absolute Angels Bangkok.

    Yes, we offer services in Chiang Mai.

    We have 1 female escort (VIP Kate) who is based in Chiang Mai but unfortunately she is still on vacation. We do not have an estimate time on her return.

    Kate is our only Chang Mai based escort.

    We apologize for any inconvenience.

  11. #2440
    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurTick  [View Original Post]
    When I signed up on Badoo, used a different email address, only my first name, yet it still connected me to my facebook account and knew my gmail address. Don't know how but it did. All I can think of is that it traces me online by my IP address. I am only connected online with my home PC. So unless having another ISP I can't see any ways to hide my other social media accounts from them.

    What it means is; anyone viewing my profile on Badoo will be able to also see details of my FB profile. Not ideal and why I deleted my account on there.
    For the record, badoo is very smart with Facebook. It uses Facebook to recommend friends for you, add additional friends and allow you to qualify for free premiunim features by inviting your Facebook friends. If you are so paranoid about this then download badoo on your mobile phone as an app. You won't have that problem. If you insist on using the browser version, then clear your cookies and history first. I would stick to just the app because the app utilizes location based searches for ladies nearby you. In my opinion, this is what you need.

  12. #2439

    It

    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurTick  [View Original Post]
    When I signed up on Badoo, used a different email address, only my first name, yet it still connected me to my facebook account and knew my gmail address. Don't know how but it did. All I can think of is that it traces me online by my IP address. I am only connected online with my home PC. So unless having another ISP I can't see any ways to hide my other social media accounts from them.

    What it means is; anyone viewing my profile on Badoo will be able to also see details of my FB profile. Not ideal and why I deleted my account on there.
    You must have allowed it to connect these two. There is no link if you sign up with a different account. Tracing IP only works if I you have a static one which most people don't. Remarkable enough AIS in Thailand gives IPv6 or rather by requirement and then we will most likely see behavior your describing in the future. But as is right now 99,9% certainty you are responsible for what happened.

    My five cents!

  13. #2438

    Badoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus9  [View Original Post]
    I have had good success with badoo also. And yes, some girls are very transparent on their profiles about providing company for hire. I set up a Badoo profile without linking it to my Facebook account. I like to be a bit discreet also. I also understand someone not wanting to have a profile on any dating site. We chat doesn't require much info, but it is loaded with ladyboys in Bangkok and Chiang Mai. I've had a little luck with it in Bangkok, but not CM. There didn't seem to be that much on offer last time I was up there. I even looked into the sideline websites, but I have trouble getting the girls to respond even in Bangkok. Those sideline sites (such as fanfinfin or 69 sideline) seem to be geared towards local clientele. Those girls aren't as willing to meet a Falang yet. Maybe just a combo of language, preference, and them also trying to be discreet.

    So in my research I also found it a bit difficult to find obvious freelancers online in Chiang Mai. But I'm not as into just picking up a FL off the street. There are some late night bars and clubs that are notorious for freelancers, but I don't want to wait until after 12 pm to start hunting. I'll try out some of the other apps suggested when I get back in country. I was only mentioning my experiences as to the main successes that I had in CM.
    When I signed up on Badoo, used a different email address, only my first name, yet it still connected me to my facebook account and knew my gmail address. Don't know how but it did. All I can think of is that it traces me online by my IP address. I am only connected online with my home PC. So unless having another ISP I can't see any ways to hide my other social media accounts from them.

    What it means is; anyone viewing my profile on Badoo will be able to also see details of my FB profile. Not ideal and why I deleted my account on there.

  14. #2437
    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurTick  [View Original Post]
    Good stories about your pulling abilities and conquests, I also have lots I can tell. But it still doesn't solve the mystery as to why there are hardly any or no freelance girls advertising on the CM sections of criagslist or anywhere else. I was recently discussing this with a friend, and he thinks, especially pertaining to craigslist, that when CM girls try to publish ads on CL their posts become immediately flagged and are then deleted. I actually tried myself posting on CL asking for Chiang Mai freelance girls and my posts did not see the light of day, within a couple of hours, flagged and deleted. And there is the classified site, Backstage. I tried an experiment. Posted an ad pretending to be a 28 year old CM woman looking to meet interesting guys and for fun. Got deleted, with a message saying; this ad does not meet our terms and conditions and no other explanation.

    As regarding dating sites like TF and others. There are several girls on the Bangkok and Pattaya sections that are outright in what they are offering. But not the CM girls, they have to be very discrete. Reason I believe, if not discrete their profiles will probably be deleted. There are social media sites such as Badoo. But joining Badoo automatically connects you with your facebook profile. Not good for guys who already have girlfriends or are married.

    I find it difficult to accept there are no freelance girls in Chiang Mai. I think if they try and advertise, some kind of system is blocking them. Not just my opinion but also a general consensus among my friends.
    I have had good success with badoo also. And yes, some girls are very transparent on their profiles about providing company for hire. I set up a Badoo profile without linking it to my Facebook account. I like to be a bit discreet also. I also understand someone not wanting to have a profile on any dating site. We chat doesn't require much info, but it is loaded with ladyboys in Bangkok and Chiang Mai. I've had a little luck with it in Bangkok, but not CM. There didn't seem to be that much on offer last time I was up there. I even looked into the sideline websites, but I have trouble getting the girls to respond even in Bangkok. Those sideline sites (such as fanfinfin or 69 sideline) seem to be geared towards local clientele. Those girls aren't as willing to meet a Falang yet. Maybe just a combo of language, preference, and them also trying to be discreet.

    So in my research I also found it a bit difficult to find obvious freelancers online in Chiang Mai. But I'm not as into just picking up a FL off the street. There are some late night bars and clubs that are notorious for freelancers, but I don't want to wait until after 12 pm to start hunting. I'll try out some of the other apps suggested when I get back in country. I was only mentioning my experiences as to the main successes that I had in CM.

  15. #2436
    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurTick  [View Original Post]
    Good stories about your pulling abilities and conquests, I also have lots I can tell. But it still doesn't solve the mystery as to why there are hardly any or no freelance girls advertising on the CM sections of criagslist or anywhere else. I was recently discussing this with a friend, and he thinks, especially pertaining to craigslist, that when CM girls try to publish ads on CL their posts become immediately flagged and are then deleted. I actually tried myself posting on CL asking for Chiang Mai freelance girls and my posts did not see the light of day, within a couple of hours, flagged and deleted. And there is the classified site, Backstage. I tried an experiment. Posted an ad pretending to be a 28 year old CM woman looking to meet interesting guys and for fun. Got deleted, with a message saying; this ad does not meet our terms and conditions and no other explanation.

    As regarding dating sites like TF and others. There are several girls on the Bangkok and Pattaya sections that are outright in what they are offering. But not the CM girls, they have to be very discrete. Reason I believe, if not discrete their profiles will probably be deleted. There are social media sites such as Badoo. But joining Badoo automatically connects you with your facebook profile. Not good for guys who already have girlfriends or are married.

    I find it difficult to accept there are no freelance girls in Chiang Mai. I think if they try and advertise, some kind of system is blocking them. Not just my opinion but also a general consensus among my friends.
    I have had good success with badoo also. And yes, some girls are very transparent on their profiles about providing company for hire. I set up a Badoo profile without linking it to my Facebook account. I like to be a bit discreet also. I also understand someone not wanting to have a profile on any dating site. We chat doesn't require much info, but it is loaded with ladyboys in Bangkok and Chiang Mai. I've had a little luck with it in Bangkok, but not CM. There didn't seem to be that much on offer last time I was up there. I even looked into the sideline websites, but I have trouble getting the girls to respond even in Bangkok. Those sideline sites (such as fanfinfin or 69 sideline) seem to be geared towards local clientele. Those girls aren't as willing to meet a Falang yet. Maybe just a combo of language, preference, and them also trying to be discreet.

    So in my research I also found it a bit difficult to find obvious freelancers online in Chiang Mai. But I'm not as into just picking up a FL off the street. There are some late night bars and clubs that are notorious for freelancers, but I don't want to wait until after 12 pm to start hunting. I'll try out some of the other apps suggested when I get back in country. I was only mentioning my experiences as to the main successes that I had in CM.

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