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08-13-17 07:00 #9812
Posts: 421Yes we are on a prostitution forum, not on a forum for tricking women into doing something they did not previously agree to do. You must think you're the only guy, or the smartest to have ever tried it.
You can try to play the dumb foreigner trick every time the girl notices you trying to stealth her, but one thing I've learned about the profession in Korea (and other countries) is that hookers talk, mostly to each other and sometimes to their pimps / mamasan. It's only a matter of time before you're pinned as the dodgy guy who tries to take the condom off without their knowledge.
And no, licking a girl's nipples without discussion / permission beforehand is not the same as stealthing her. If a girl had said at the start that she doesn't like her nipples being touched, and then the punter went on to deliberately touch / lick them. That would also be a shitty thing to do. With a condom, 99% of the time, the girl puts it on you, which means there is a mutual understanding between both of you on condom usage, so for you to take it off without her knowledge is you taking THAT CHOICE away from her.
80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done, and if I ever get the feeling a girl doesn't want to service me I walk. It's that simple! The good thing about girls refusing tonservice you is you can be rest assured they aren't being forced and are doing the job out of choice.
The few times where I started CFS with a girl, and ended up doing BBFS, either I or she made the suggestion and the other party agreed. There have even been times when a girl agreed to BBBJ or BBFS and then tried to sneak a condom on afterwards during the BJ. Guess what, that's a shitty thing to do as well!
You can doubt my experiences all you want. My record here on ISG is there for all to see, and it only details about 20-30% of my experiences in Korea. I stopped giving advice here a long time ago because too many people in this thread are happy with paying KRW 300-500 k for vanilla sex and one shot (LOL). I imagine a lot of other experienced Korea mongerers who are still in country simply decided to stay quiet for the same reason as well, and keep their gems to themselves.
Good luck with your stealthing and overpriced pussy. As for me, I'll continue to get an understanding from my providers BEFOREHAND.
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08-13-17 06:12 #9811
Posts: 98Originally Posted by KyleIrving [View Original Post]
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08-13-17 05:15 #9810
Posts: 303Originally Posted by AllForBb [View Original Post]
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08-13-17 02:40 #9809
Posts: 228Magic Johnson.
Originally Posted by Wimble [View Original Post]
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08-13-17 01:14 #9808
Posts: 19Originally Posted by RainMania [View Original Post]
Secondly I am beginning to question your experiences. Taking it off is not as simple as "***** take this dick weather you like it or not and shut the fuck up". I take it off. Go "oops it fell off" they either go "it's OK keep going " or "oh OK let me go get another one" in which case I leave it on.
By your example you better never have sex or touch a girl at a club because they are to drunk to consent to anything. So make sure you don't do anything at all or you're at risk for [CodeWord123] and jail time! Your examples are so extreme and out of touch with reality. It's not black and white and takes a rational decision in the moment to make an adult decision.
Half the experiences on here say "the girl was mechanical and not into it". Clearly they do not want to fuck you but that doesn't matter to you cause you want to treat this woman as an object and fuck her regardless. But that's morally OK to you. In these situations, I would never take it off, do my business, and be on my way.
If the girl is making good conversation, seems into you, willing to give her her kakao, then sure I'll give it a shot to take it off. At worst they say "wait a sec let me get a new one" and at that point I would agree would be amazingly ass hole to force it off or keep going when they say wait.
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08-12-17 21:51 #9807
Posts: 19Originally Posted by RainMania [View Original Post]
Its honestly quite disappointing to be preached to about morals on a prostitution site mention to spread information. What information does saying "that's fucked up you shouldn't be an ass hole" provide? Most anyone could come on this site and go "you all are fucked up for even hiring prostitutes. You are all assholes. " in the same light as trying to shame me, we all are contributing to a horrible business. You think every prostitute is some college girl paying off her bills? Not in the slightest. Most are forced to because they don't have talents, skills, or education and forced to or be homeless. You could argue "they are providing a service" but try explaining that logic to literally anyone in your daily life and see how that goes. Prostitution in and of itself is immoral. You are paying a woman to use her body. Half of us on here are married or dating as well. Is cheating on them OK? Or should we scold people for being married or dating.
I'd personally argue, what makes foreigners look worse is being fat ugly fucks with larger than Korean cocks and the stereotype of having foreign infections. I've noticed the cheaper you go the more they care about looks. In MVP VIP, they offer to go BB and CIP. But I went to a few higher end pick-your-girl, sing karaoke, hang out, drink with them for a hour or two with friends and all the girls, then individually go upstairs to your rooms to fuck. Those girls were expensive. Like 400-500. And they honestly didn't give a fuck that I was half my coworkers age and in good shape. The chick I picked was not having it when she found out I wasn't t buying tons of drinks. While my coworker was getting all the attention. We all paid but he got much more attention and they genuinely looked interested in him. Also, it goes all the way down to free. Back when I used to club in Hongdae two years ago, they gave zero fuck how much money you had. You could buy one drink all night and still fuck if you look good and are charming.
So my experience is cheaper = more personal and want not fat fucks. Expensive = don't give a fuck and wants money.
Anyways, it's a pity this has turned into a pissing contest. I came here to spread information with others who enjoy the same hobby and instead I am being scolded. It's very disheartening and makes me not want to help you guys with anything.
To all for BB, I can't help you man. I tried to explain it as best I could but at this point I think you have to try it and get a personal feel for how it works for you.
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08-12-17 21:26 #9806
Posts: 421Originally Posted by AllForBb [View Original Post]
You really have no idea how much trouble it can get you into do you? If you're lucky the girl might simply call the police and cry rap3. You'll be charged and will have to pay her compensation, you might even face some jail time if the prosecutor really wants it. If you're unlucky she'll call the pimp, who will call his security and they'll go party on your face.
In both scenarios you not only fucked up for yourself, but you also fucked up for other foreigners who would most likely be blackballed from that service provider / agency.
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08-12-17 20:17 #9805
Posts: 275Originally Posted by AllForBb [View Original Post]
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08-12-17 15:48 #9804
Posts: 228Be nice to your fellow mongers.
Originally Posted by LovinAsia [View Original Post]
You just cannot believe a person who fucked over 3000 women need to learn more skill? Halfner, over 2000, a man in news in Japan (a principle of a high school) fucked over 10000 in Philipine, a NBA player, people say he did over 10000, but he recently admited only did 1000, they all say they still need to learn.
You are too naive, too young, to look down your fellow mongers. You sound a Korean.
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08-12-17 15:26 #9803
Posts: 275Originally Posted by AllForBb [View Original Post]
And why do you want me to be your teacher. Your man crush on Kyle will keep you busy LOL.
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08-12-17 15:09 #9802
Posts: 303Originally Posted by AllForBb [View Original Post]
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08-12-17 14:41 #9801
Posts: 228Sex education
Originally Posted by LovinAsia [View Original Post]
Please aswer the questions I posted below: "Please explain how to do "pull your hips up against your finger... ". Is hip involved this technique? Excuse my understanding of this Engish word. I just want to learn from KyleIrving, his techniques. He is an expert. If everyone understand how to do it, I will try to learn more on English. Maybe hip mean pelvis here, not haunches or buttock. Please clearafy".
I am still a serious learner even I did 3287 pussies (believe or not, it up to you, however, there is no need to make it up for me). I just want to make a point, sharing information and experience is much better than joking other members unfriendly, or hypocritically.
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08-12-17 13:44 #9800
Posts: 275Originally Posted by AllForBb [View Original Post]
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08-12-17 13:33 #9799
Posts: 228Originally Posted by LovinAsia [View Original Post]
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08-12-17 12:42 #9798
Posts: 228Hypocritical integrity
Originally Posted by RainMania [View Original Post]
If you are a person with so called integrity, you really should not be here. You should be with your wife or your girl friend, and never fuck a prostitute, and never visit ISG.