Makati

[Mr Enternational]

The mama and her girls are usually at the white column on your left as you face the escalator. She shows 11 am-12 noon, the only day she is not there is Sundays. She is hard to miss, she is flamboyant, late 30's, chubby, short light brown-reddish hair.

I might drag my ass over there just to fuck her!

[WestCoast1]

I read in these forums that near Starbucks is where the FL will be. Bought myself a drink and parked my ass outside for maybe an hour or so, scanning for potential FL. There were a couple girls sitting by themselves but were not so good looking so I ignored them but I could not for the life of me find any FL to give signals to or even approach.

Sitting at the tables at the railing, facing the atrium and upwards escalator, are 2 large, white columns (one on either side of the escalators). The mama and her girls are usually at the white column on your left as you face the escalator. She shows 11 am-12 noon, the only day she is not there is Sundays. She is hard to miss, she is flamboyant, late 30's, chubby, short light brown-reddish hair. She approaches many unaccompanied white men as they pass, and she will follow them up the escalator. She hugs, she cajoles, she insists you get her phone number (or give yours to her for an instant txt). If you have communication apps she can send you pics of her many girls. She usually has 2-3 girls standing in the atrium area (not necessarily at the white columns), often standing together between the white column and Starbucks. If both / all of her girls are gone with customers she has more in reserve on her phone (with pics).

FL don't normally sit at have a drink in the Starbucks. However I posted a pair of fatties in the PG 2 years ago, and one of them was recently sitting there (with her fugly friend) as I passed by one morning recently. She waved me over and we spoke, she was desperate for any kind of quick money, even offering a massage for 300. I was in / out of the mall several times that day, and she (and same friend) never moved from that spot. Speaking to her later in the afternoon she was even more desperate with the pleading, offering a ST 3-some with fugly friend for p1000 total, "We can split 500-500". No, but thanks.

She was pretty good in the sack, but Was resistant to kiss.

Do you discuss all your desires in the bar before you agree to take the girl? Discussing them on-the-spot in the heat of the moment pretty much guarantees no success.

Do you take any STD preventive pills or something?

Such as?

Perhaps some of you veterans recognize her?

Give us a pic?

[Chocha Monger]

She was pretty good in the sack, but Was resistant to kiss. One kid but great body. This was the first girl I briefly did raw dog just to lubricate better (she was wet down there during foreplay so I just thrust it in a few times to lubricate better, then put on condom). Really wanted to bang her raw the whole time but too scared of STDs. Dunno how you mongers do it. Do you take any STD preventive pills or something?

I just sing this verse from Titanium as I bang away, "I'm bulletproof, nothing to lose. Fire away, fire away. Ricochet, you take your aim. Fire away, fire away!" Then make sure to cum-in-pussy to flush out anything trying to swim up my dick, and pull out within five seconds of dropping my payload.

Strange girl, she would not kiss but enthusiastically sucked your dick and took it bareback in her soggy pussy until you lost your nerve and put on a rubber to finish. Maybe she charges extra for kiss and CIM, or she was just sparing you the lingering taste of the previous monger's cock. Then again, I have heard all kinds of stupid ideas from Filipinas such as; it is okay to cheat on their husband / boyfriend as long as they do not kiss the other man. Suck his cock CIM w / swallow, yes. Let him fuck them raw dog cum-in-pussy, absolutely! Anal cream pies, okay. Kiss in mouth, not okay! LOL!

During our drinks she said she normally doesn't CIM but said she will try when I told her I wanted it. But when I told her I was almost ready to come in her mouth, she said not in mouth, only on tummy. So I just finished missionary, inside condom.

She had already agreed to CIM, you were talking when you should have been squirting on her tonsils. The only notification you should have given her was a loud groan and a fuck face, right after you scalded her tonsils with your cock porridge.

We then had dinner and had a good chat. Went to that Japanese restaurant across the street from AG new world. As she opened up more, she revealed she is from a small city about 2 hours away (via public transportation), and has a job in a beauty store. She shared some pics on her phone of her store and young son, and comes to LA cafe around twice a week to supplement income. Perhaps some of you veterans recognize her? Not sure I would repeat due to the kissing issue but I am tempted. I was tired after that single session and called it a night.

Yeah. That is pretty much the standard cover story the tramps at LAC tell newbies. Stick around long enough, and you will find out that they are there every night turning tricks unless a john takes them for a few days or a week to another town. The truth is that they live in low rent boarding houses in some nearby slum, and they go home about twice a week. They use mongers' hotel rooms for naps, showers, shaves and shits. They only rent a space on bunk beds at the boarding houses commonly known as "bed spacers" in case johns are scarce on a particular night.

Apprentice, you are a gentleman. However, now you are realizing that it does not pay to be too transparent nice and generous with your rentals. They see it as weakness and naivety, and later fail to deliver on their agreements leaving you less than satisfied. You are going to have to harden up a bit, and that means no more taking your rented tramps to expensive dinners. You should not be surprised that the EDSA tramp suddenly changed her definition of LT after she saw you drop 1,500 pesos on Korean food. I can assure you that she was not thinking what a nice guy you are for taking her for a pricey feed. She was thinking that you should be paying her much more than 4,500 pesos for fucking all night as you are a rich foreigner who drops 1,500 on a single meal.

Furthermore, once she told you that she sold pussy abroad in Japan, you were on notice that she was not GFE and a hardcore pro. Pay more attention to details during the chitchat and lady drinks in the bar. You are not just socializing, it is a job interview where you have a short time to obtain enough info from the candidate to decide whether or not they are worth an on the spot offer. Remember, she is on the clock and you are paying for those 700-peso drinks during the interview. Ask the questions that matter like what, where, when, why, how many, and how long. Is she feeling well? Is she on the rag or due for it? You noticed that she was "demure" in the bar and sure enough, "shyness" became an issue during fucking in the room. Ask what time she has to leave in the morning before paying bar fine.

The girls at Pegasus are hot but it is KTV-style, expect things like table fees. The girls may or may not go with you, and it is unlikely that they want their politician and business elite sponsors to see them leave with you. Expect spending a ton on LDs to get a phone number to contact her to meet on the next day. The risk is that you are out pesos, and she may not show up or respond within your time frame. If you want Pegasus quality women without blowing a ton of pesos in the KTVs, you need to network. I would not recommend Pegasus for a mongering apprentice, as it is already at the master monger level.

[Breadman]

This was the first girl I briefly did raw dog just to lubricate better (she was wet down there during foreplay so I just thrust it in a few times to lubricate better, then put on condom). Really wanted to bang her raw the whole time but too scared of STDs. Dunno how you mongers do it. Do you take any STD preventive pills or something? .

Yes, its a well known rule that you won't catch an std if you keep the raw dog down to under five thrusts. First thrust gives you pretty much the same risks as going all out raw dog.

[TheApprentice7]

Today I accomplished very little. I decided to try picking up a FL at Robinson's place mall, but perhaps all this rain has been taking a toll. I read in these forums that near Starbucks is where the FL will be. Bought myself a drink and parked my ass outside for maybe an hour or so, scanning for potential FL. There were a couple girls sitting by themselves but were not so good looking so I ignored them but I could not for the life of me find any FL to give signals to or even approach. Eventually I made my way down to LA cafe.

At LA cafe I saw the waitress who previously tried to con me by asking for $$ to spend time together with no sex. She gave me the cold shoulder and I ignored her. I saw one attractive girl who said she was 25 but looked to be in her late 20's or early 30's with excellent skin complexion. We agreed to ST 2500 which may have been a bit high but I was worn out from my unsuccessful hunt at Robinson's. Because traffic was so bad we just went to nearby ST hotel down the block, which cost another 600 pesos. She was pretty good in the sack, but Was resistant to kiss. One kid but great body. This was the first girl I briefly did raw dog just to lubricate better (she was wet down there during foreplay so I just thrust it in a few times to lubricate better, then put on condom). Really wanted to bang her raw the whole time but too scared of STDs. Dunno how you mongers do it. Do you take any STD preventive pills or something? During our drinks she said she normally doesn't CIM but said she will try when I told her I wanted it. But when I told her I was almost ready to come in her mouth, she said not in mouth, only on tummy. So I just finished missionary, inside condom.

We then had dinner and had a good chat. Went to that Japanese restaurant across the street from AG new world. As she opened up more, she revealed she is from a small city about 2 hours away (via public transportation), and has a job in a beauty store. She shared some pics on her phone of her store and young son, and comes to LA cafe around twice a week to supplement income. Perhaps some of you veterans recognize her? Not sure I would repeat due to the kissing issue but I am tempted. I was tired after that single session and called it a night.

[SaltyPete]

You can read the entire ISG as a newbie, and that might help a little bit, but you will never be able to hide the fact that it's your first time.

You are right, of course. But the knowledge one retains will help avoid being scammed. Information exists on taxi scams, trans scams, "coded word" scams, how to dress to avoid being mugged, pregnancy scams, "send me money" scams, how to circumnavigate the globe on a Great Circle Route, and proper prices to pay.

But it is impossible not to keep from smiling like a kid in a candy shop when you visit for the first time.

[TheApprentice7]

You can read the entire ISG as a newbie, and that might help a little bit, but you will never be able to hide the fact that it's your first time.

Got to agree with Mogwai here. I did a lot of research and prep for this trip, but my first time at LA cafe, when those grannies started stroking my back, my involuntary facial expression and body shiver revealed my first timer status no matter how much I tried to play it off.

[Mogwai]

Never tell anyone that it is your first time in the Philippines! You may as well wear a tee-shirt saying "Take my money. Please!" If you do your due diligence here on ISG, you will (for all intents and purposes) be a veteran.

You can read the entire ISG as a newbie, and that might help a little bit, but you will never be able to hide the fact that it's your first time.

[Mogwai]

I never wear seat belts when I drive either. LOL! I trust my driving instincts.

So you trust the driving instincts of all other drivers on the road too? You are a brave man.
I suppose you have also removed the airbag because you trust your driving instincts? And you don't care you might get launched through the front windshield if you ever get involved in an accident?
And you don't care that you migt be crippled for life and your insurance will not pay you a dime for your medical bills because you didn't wear your seat belt?
Or even worse: you have a passenger sitting next to you and someone slams into your car on your side and you slam into your passenger, crippling him or her for life.

I thought you were a wiser man Natty.

[TheApprentice7]

Mongers,

Let this apprentice continue his report. Today when I was going down elevator I bumped into a tourist girl. I asked her if she was Korean And she said Japanese. I have a huge fetish for Jap girls and decided I will spend some effort to conquer this super innocent, naive looking chick. She just finished college in Japan and was here with her parents, to visit some family here in Manila. When her cab arrived, I asked her where she was going and she said to the market in BGC. I said I am headed nearby there too let's split the fare and she agreed. She was so Japanese traditional polite even though I myself felt I was somewhat creepy. In the cab she was mostly on phone but we chatted lightly throughout the ride. I managed to get her digits but long story short my game is insufficient. She still hasn't responded to any of my texts and declined dinner or next day breakfast saying she's busy this week.

I decided this was somewhat expected and headed back to try LA cafe. The very young and handsome cab driver suggested an alternate venue. He said LA cafe girls are low grade. He recommended a few high profile places such as Pegasus and AF1 for top quality girls, a place called Wensha for top quality massage (possibly no extras he was unable to confirm) and said he will introduce me to new place in Makati. The place was called Cacha spa. It was a massage place with extras. He asked for a bit more tip for introduction and I obliged. Cache spa has room fee of 650 pesos. Asked for lineup and aw about 8 girls, only one of which looked cute. I chose the cute one and just before she dragged me to shower I told her what I want. From our discussion, she tells me CBJ is 1500, BBBJ is 2000, and make love is 3000. And she tells me she will only make love and does not do blowjobs or massage. She said she can bring another girl to give BBBJ, then she can provide sex after, but I would have to pay the other girl 2 k for the blowjob. WTF! I went back to mama and asked to see the girls that will provide all 3 - massage BJ and sex. She gave me a 3 person lineup of fuglies. I apologized and said I will leave, and mama gave me refund. I gave her a small tip for her troubles and for the sake of karma. Mongers I hope you will have better luck.

Oh yeah one more thing, the young cabbie said he used to work at white bird, which is a club where guys dance for girl clients. He said that is where the Korean girls with $$ and Philipina escorts go to have fun. Ever watch working girls glory? Was good to know that Korean girls will likely decline my free contribution to pleasure them and pay good $$ for native pinoy sausage.

So I headed to EDSA. This was around 8. I have to say the girls here are a tier hotter than Burgos bar. And there were a lot of hot girls. I did a tour of all the bars here. Large collection of very hot girls. I happened to spot a demure, Japanese looking chick. I spoke to her in Japanese and she replied back in Japanese. Turned out she is half Chinese but looks Japanese and used to work in Japan for awhile at some karaoke bar. After getting her fatty friend and her a LD, I eventually ditched the fatty, paid the BF of 2500 and negotiated LT for 4500. Plus the drinks were about 700 pesos. Expensive. So I bring her back to my place, and she initiated some slow dancing, then we shower, and do the deed. This girl was weird. She was very into sex but refused to do some positions like doggie, saying she was too shy. After pounding her too hard, I think her menstrual cycle which had just ended started leaking again. She freaked out a bit and rushed to clean up the mess on my cum-filled condom. We then went out to eat Korean and I blew 1500 pesos on the food! Ouch so painful but I enjoyed her company so didn't mind it too much. Then she throws the bombshell. I will stay with you until 3 she says. Then need to go home to be with daughter. When I insisted LT means spending the night she said LT usually means 4-5 hours and spending the night needs to be specifically requested as the girl may not be able to. I once again realized life is hard as an apprentice. She returned back to hotel and she did not give sex as she started to leak blood and had some abdominal pain. Ended up blowing load #2 with BBBJ and jhandjob. Unfulfilling. I sent her off and went to sleep at 3.

Mongers do you think Pegasus is worth the $$? I hear price is so, liar to AF1. Also I thought AF1 is a karaoke thing and the girl may choose not to have sex. Is that not the case? I always visit flight 168 the massage place next door so never tried the actual AF1 girls.

[Member #4698]

So how do you deal with that constant chiming noise then?

You really want to know? HA HA. 1st, you have to understand that I really hate seat belts. They are confining and I consider them an infringement on my rights to drive the way I want to. It's downright friggin' un-American! So on the same week I bought my new SUV, I went into the back seat and cut off one of the metallic seat belt buckles with a sharp razor knife. I keep that buckle part permanently inserted into the driver's side seat belt receptacle and there is no dinging. Occasionally someone gets into the back of my SUV and asks where the seat belt buckle is and I laugh.

P.S. I understand there is now a product that you can buy on the internet called "The End-Ding Seat Belt Alarm Stop" for 8 bucks. I am not sure it works for all cars, but Google it and see.

[Member #4698]

A hustler can tell a mark no matter what they say or don't say.

Right. A mark has that deer in the headlights look. A hustler can spot that look in a crowded bar although there are plenty of false positives in their line of work. Hustlers are really just fishermen (women). The con is their lure and whenever their con doesn't work, they just sit back and wait for the next fish to come along to try their luck (or skill) again ... And eventually they get a bite.

[Mr Enternational]

That said let me add that, THERE ARE NO RULES if you know what your doing. On that 1st visit to the PI, AC was my 1st stop, I told every girl I EWR'd that I was a "cherry boy," a 1st time visitor to the PI. They all laughed at my joke and then we got it on. The girls instinctively knew I knew what I was doing, so nobody tried to take me for a rube and I had a great time.

A hustler can tell a mark no matter what they say or don't say. That is why it is hilarious to me people talking about wearing certain clothing in attempts to blend in in certain countries. As if people are only targeting foreigners that are not blending in. Hell, they will get their own people; why wouldn't they get you just because you call yourself blending in.

[The Cane]

I never wear seat belts when I drive either. LOL! I trust my driving instincts.

So how do you deal with that constant chiming noise then? Ear plugs? Hehehe!

[Member #4698]

NEVER tell anyone that it is your first time in the Philippines! You may as well wear a tee-shirt saying "Take my money. Please!" If you do your due diligence here on ISG, you will (for all intents and purposes) be a veteran.

The ISG, despite all the clutter and nonsense, offers up a lot of solid info if one cares to take the time and do some research. I remember sifting back through a year or more of reports in the AC, Makati, and Cebu forums before my 1st PI trip back in 2011. The relevant information I found combined with my experience everywhere else made that 1st trip a breeze. This is why I still continue to post trip reports here.

That said let me add that, THERE ARE NO RULES if you know what your doing. On that 1st visit to the PI, AC was my 1st stop, I told every girl I EWR'd that I was a "cherry boy," a 1st time visitor to the PI. They all laughed at my joke and then we got it on. The girls instinctively knew I knew what I was doing, so nobody tried to take me for a rube and I had a great time. The only rule I have is to follow my bliss and trust my instincts, but I understand why others might find certain rules useful. Whatever works for you is fine with me. I never wear seat belts when I drive either. LOL! I trust my driving instincts.

One final word: although the ISG can be very helpful and informative, things were better before the internet. I miss the good ol' days when I used to arrive in a town and know almost nothing about the bar scene or the girls and have to find it out all on my own. Travel was much more adventurous pre-internet. There were not nearly as many mongers around and almost no Northern Asian Mongers. And the girls put out more. Oh well. That's progress.