Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Syzygies]

I strongly recommend other barebackers take are the only true technical means to avoid catching as well as infecting your sexual partners with anything nasty along with avoiding unplanned pregnancy.

Understanding and appreciating the reasons women take all kinds of physical and emotional risks with a man and he with her, being more acquainted with the man and he with her, etc. are all nice additions to the mix. But nothing compares with taking those actual pro-active actions and measures I listed above and have repeated several times previously. If anything, those pro-active measures very much trump any well-meaning effort of most guys I have ever known who say they always try to use a condom and so should everyone else. IMO, they are letting themselves off easy with that approach compared to the far more effective pro-active measures they could take instead.

You start to get carried away here. I don't see which measure you mention can help the girl not get pregnant.

Also you seem to claim your measures are more effective than a condom, which is extremely fanciful and I doubt there is any evidence for it. Condoms ARE known to be effective against HIV. I don't see any reason to belittle those using a condom at all. They are going to be at less risk of catching many diseases and obviously less likely to cause a pregnancy, one of the highest risks.

I never ever got any girl pregnant, however it must be that some guys are causing unwanted pregnancies somehow, and there are girls claiming to take precautions of some sort that were not effective. After a condom accident I did make sure the girl took other precautions, and naturally condom accidents are fairly rare if lube is used properly and ensure no air bubbles when putting it on, with good technique. For marathon fucks it can be necessary to change the condom. I don't like condoms sure, but put up with some thin Japanese ones, that I supply myself. I have cancelled with girls insisting to use her own thick or wrong sized condom. Would probably be useless for me. Fortunately 98% of girls are O.K. with my condoms, and maybe 99% for Thais. I have definitely met a few Thai girls that accidentally had a baby from a non Thai man, probably a customer in each case. Even more met hookers stupidly getting pregnant to Thai boys, with boy often doing a runner to a new girl at some point. Teenage pregnancies are high, and abortions low. Why would a hooker be so stupid as to have a baby? Hard to fathom. Why not wait?

[PedroMorales]

I imagine
I theorise.

I know. I went up to Nan (north of see Mai) years ago when the hookers there were supposed to have a 75% infection rate. I also read BS about the low risks for makes of catching the clap and got an awful dose in Pattaya, in part as a result of that unscientific advice. There are real risks out there and mercurial theories do not change them. Junkies, bisexuals, homosexuals and ladyboys have high rates. You don't have to be a genius to see how that ups the infection rate in places like Pattaya.

Theories like these are like the Buddhism of the Pattaya hookers, who believe sacrificing a chicken will cure them. The Pattaya "Buddhists" might be more scientific.

The risks are real. Deal with them and be careful about what you read on the Net.

I'm adopting a new approach: bonking airline cabin crew who are glad of the extra $$, more so the Americans who are taxed on their per dime but not on what I pay. I figure the risks are lower as they are unprepared, are only doing one customer a day (I have my suspicions about yesterday's stack them high bonk) and they have to be uber careful). I get a good rate too and so far, so good.

[EihTooms]

There most certainly are HIV infected heterosexual men. It's simply a question of how much risk there is and whether she wants to take whatever that risk is by having BBFS with a stranger she has just met. I accept this is greatly reduced when results of a recent test are available.

I also accept you have found lots of ladies from all strata of society who took this risk but in my opinion they are foolish and furthermore I suggest they only do so to please the man which can be for any number of ulterior motives from desperation for a mate, loneliness, horniness, money and yes also out of ignorance.

I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.

I agree. In fact, I would and have gone even further than you and others in my postings regarding if you're going to go bareback, do it as safely and with as much consideration for your partners as possible.

I will repeat now what I have posted several times, almost as many times as the subject has come up, that IF you are going to indulge in a life of bareback fucking, I strongly recommend you get yourself circumcised, get a vasectomy, don't go bareback unless you have a current (within 1-2 months) negative HIV + other STI blood test result document from a qualified clinic, avoid any obvious visual or otherwise seriously problematic and suspiciously unhealthy vaginas, keep every pertinent body part well lubed at all times, avoid as much as possible prolonged "rough" kinds of sexual activities that might cause skin abrasions, always roll out of bed and wash your package with soapy water within minutes after finishing and take a leak (avoiding the Code Word trigger here) soon after.

IMO, for men who routinely engage in bareback fucking AS WELL AS the occasional "forgetting" to wear a condom, being "too drunk" to wear a condom or that the girl "didn't ask me" to wear a condom guys, those pro-active measures and actions that I have taken and that I strongly recommend other barebackers take are the only true technical means to avoid catching as well as infecting your sexual partners with anything nasty along with avoiding unplanned pregnancy.

Understanding and appreciating the reasons women take all kinds of physical and emotional risks with a man and he with her, being more acquainted with the man and he with her, etc. are all nice additions to the mix. But nothing compares with taking those actual pro-active actions and measures I listed above and have repeated several times previously. If anything, those pro-active measures very much trump any well-meaning effort of most guys I have ever known who say they always try to use a condom and so should everyone else. IMO, they are letting themselves off easy with that approach compared to the far more effective pro-active measures they could take instead.

[Syzygies]

I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.

The reality is the BBFS women are taking a significantly higher risk than the guy. Mean number of fucks to catch it from a HIV person are much lower. Circumcision could reduce risk for guy even further. I have a BBFS regular, and am completely honest with her. However she knows guys in general, will lie about how many or which girls they did BB with, or have condom accidents, and hence is ultra suspicious, requiring a regular blood test. If the guy did the odd girl BB the risk is pretty low, but of course there is far more emotional thoughts about HIV than knowing exactly the technical risks.

If I did needles, gays, LBs, etc. I sure she would be doing anything with me at all.

Needles and BB ass fucking remain far greater risks, and quite hard to identify males that really caught HIV another way, and they can easily be lying about exactly what they did. There are probably a lot more likely ways to die. Plenty of studies showed persons did not catch it from their HIV partner with certain safer practices. E. g. I think DATY was considered pretty safe. We don't use protection for that and is unlikely to be needed. I think it is possible to catch Chlamydia from a BBBJ (although rare) and that is how I believe I got it once.

For all those village kids, who lost both parents to HIV, would be interesting to know the percentages of the causes, if could be obtained truthfully. Could be a high percentage of cases where needles were involved at least for the guy. Could be that some of the women were ass fucked, using wild speculation, although they could catch it from BBFS. It really isn't that easy for the male partner to get it, one would think, if he is not a bisexual and not a drug user. Can be the male caught from his wife too, but that might be less than 10% of the cases. If fuck the HIV person BBFS enough times, eventually the risks catch up with you or just get unlucky.

I imagine that older guys are thinking that they have only so many years left anyway, so why not enjoy, taking a few faint risks. There are riskier things, like how many Farangs joined the Pattaya Flying Club, "jumping" (or being jumped) off tall buildings. How many guys caught HIV from a blood transfusion? I certainly met at least one Hemophiliac (spelling) years ago that got HIV from blood transfusion. Blood banks don't want any guys that do hookers, but I am not sure that hookers are actually riskier than non P4P population.

I theorise that doing BBFS with a very small number of well known women, is less risky that BB with any girl that is always willing as a matter of course. Early days in Thailand I was less careful as had no wife to pass on any type of STD. So that is the vastly bigger risk. Catching any type of very transmittable STD, and passing on to GF, wife, etc. HIV gets an unproportionate amount of the publicity. There are plenty of STDs including ones I never heard of before.

[Breadman]

I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.

There are risks involved period. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Picked myself up a hottie tonight that had way too many free tequila shots that the bar gives the girl to loosen them up. And we all know what happens with lose women. Take a step back, other areas the women keep a close watch on the activities. Here the lights are out, the girl is feeling very relaxed ie drunk and there's no telling if the guy really had on an intact condom. She feels something and is satisfied. With the next customer the same thing might happen. Over and over again. Guy isn't spending $60 in lady drinks for no reason at all. Hundreds of drunk gogo girls walking out of the club every night needing to earn a bit more cash, what are the chances she doses off without checking for protection. Accept the risks associated with this hobby, there's a reason why this part of Asia is ripe for catching something. I'm not preaching safe sex at all, quite the opposite. Accept that every point might have a shark in it and deal with it however you feel it needs to be dealt with. Well written responses won't save your ass.

Next time your about to get it on and pull out the condom, pay attention to detail for a change. Notice how the girl didn't inspect the package? Didn't bother to check the condoms integrity. Just accepted that the condom was a normal condom when in fact it was anything but. Girl can want to practice safe sex but when you add liquor, overnight stays and dark rooms to the mix anything goes. She didn't check your condom then she didn't check the condom if the guy who cut off the tip.

[MeatMan]

For me, if you can't take care of a child then you have no business having one. It is really unfair for the child to be born into a situation as such. I explained that to my own daughter. She decided to have my grandkids anyway. But of course I live in a country where the government gives women free stuff when they can't take care of their kids and throws men in jail when they can't take care of theirs. So my daughter does just fine with the government's help.

Same situation. Just a few days ago, my daughter just had a child from some guy who's currently in prison and is now currently living in a shelter. I gave her a few options but she's a stubborn fuck like her mother. If she wants to do things her way, she can go right the hell on ahead. Reality is a hard pill to swallow.

[RedMau5]

These are just some interesting facts to reflect on.

1. The first post in "Stupid Shit in Medellin was made by Admin and says "I've been trying to use the Medellin forum while I'm here and for some reason some of you guys seem to think that criticizing or reviewing other guys posts on the pussy threads is what this forum is about. It's not, and doing that creates and environment that inhibits growth of the forum because seriously people don't want to deal with your bullshit. ".

2. Wikipedia defines an internet troll as "In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community. "

3. So far this thread has 131 or so posts.

4. 36 of the 131 posts expresses negativity towards me, Monkeypaw.

5. 15 of the total 36 negative comments come from one user..

Point proven MP. I'm in the Angeles City thread and it's the same problem. Some posters are now complaining about how off topic conversations and the comments are. There are threads with assigned titles like "General Discussions, Politics" but some guys seem to just want to use the main thread like Bangkok or Angeles City to flood random conversations unrelated to sex or hookers. I guess this is like trolling as well. It distracts from the purpose of a information sex board. Hopefully something can be done to change this. Prayers maybe.

[Mr Enternational]

If the unborn child will be retarded or if the birth will create serious problems for the parent, these are cases where there can be an exception. I think abortion should be approved or disapproved according to each circumstance.

For me, if you can't take care of a child then you have no business having one. It is really unfair for the child to be born into a situation as such. I explained that to my own daughter. She decided to have my grandkids anyway. But of course I live in a country where the government gives women free stuff when they can't take care of their kids and throws men in jail when they can't take care of theirs. So my daughter does just fine with the government's help.

[Blanquiceleste]

I think it is more of a personal decision like almost everywhere else and not a cultural one. A friend of mine was recently pregnant by an American guy. I told her if she was not married then she did not need to have the baby. She argued with me that maybe they would marry later and they loved each other, etc. She never argued that abortion was not acceptable. When she got to be 5 months pregnant the guy disappeared. Then she told me that she did not want to have the baby. Pretty much too late then. All I could do was say I told you so, especially after the baby was born in May and she has been struggling since. She said yes you were right.

To quote the Dalai Lama from the NY Times, 11/28/1993.

Of course, abortion, from a Buddhist viewpoint, is an act of killing and is negative, generally speaking. But it depends on the circumstances.

If the unborn child will be retarded or if the birth will create serious problems for the parent, these are cases where there can be an exception. I think abortion should be approved or disapproved according to each circumstance.

[Mr Enternational]

So, I think many Thais would not look kindly on abortion.

I think it is more of a personal decision like almost everywhere else and not a cultural one. A friend of mine was recently pregnant by an American guy. I told her if she was not married then she did not need to have the baby. She argued with me that maybe they would marry later and they loved each other, etc. She never argued that abortion was not acceptable. When she got to be 5 months pregnant the guy disappeared. Then she told me that she did not want to have the baby. Pretty much too late then. All I could do was say I told you so, especially after the baby was born in May and she has been struggling since. She said yes you were right.

[Franciscass]

how rare if not practically unheard of in their observation for demonstrably heterosexual men who don't share needles to have acquired HIV .

There most certainly are HIV infected heterosexual men. It's simply a question of how much risk there is and whether she wants to take whatever that risk is by having BBFS with a stranger she has just met. I accept this is greatly reduced when results of a recent test are available.

I also accept you have found lots of ladies from all strata of society who took this risk but in my opinion they are foolish and furthermore I suggest they only do so to please the man which can be for any number of ulterior motives from desperation for a mate, loneliness, horniness, money and yes also out of ignorance.

I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.

[Mostek6502]

Is abortion a no-no in Thai society? Or is it fairly commonly used?

I have an ex girlfriend who has a six month old daughter. I broke up with her more than a year ago and she called me out of the blue to tell me she was pregnant with a local guy who deserted her as soon as she told him. She was not asking for money, but some advice from a father figure (yes, I know). I asked her what were her options. She was in a very dire position.

She was about six weeks pregnant and I asked her about an abortion, she said that this option was not negotiable at all, it was completely against Buddhist teachings. She was resigned to having the baby, but she was extremely resentful of the position she was in. She eventually accepted it and gave birth. She now is a content and happy mother and absolutely devoted to her daughter. Her father died three years ago and she lives on the farm with her mother and sister. I help her a little. She has grown up and she has matured greatly since we were together.

So, I think many Thais would not look kindly on abortion.

[MonkeyPaw]

Chubby guy selling translation books on the sidewalk when phones do it faster and for free. He can't be making any money so how does he stay chubby?

He stays chubby because life has moved on without him. He has not adapted to the changes of the world around him. He is still stuck in the ideas of 30 years past. And because of his inability to progress, he loses out in other aspects of life, like his health. Think about those who cannot change their ways of thinking. Those are the most unsuccessful type of people living miserable lives, while trying to express their beliefs in the old ways, so they can bring others down with them. If he can't change his mentality, he can't change his weight. Standing or sitting all day on the street like those Thai street vendors doesn't help. Most are all unhealthy looking. Therefore it's his "personal hell" to stand on the sidewalk to sell translation books which I doubt is very successful. If he was open minded enough to change and progress, then perhaps he would have success doing something else. Then he can start living life as it should be lived, and lose some weight. Preaching and doing the same old shit, while the world or industry has changed will make guys end up like the chubby guy on the sidewalk. Be progressive. If you see something that works better, than you'the better ask, learn, and adapt. There seems to be many experts and teachers, but those who really know how to live life will forever be students. I don't want ever to be the chubby guy selling books. Be progressive!

[Syzygies]

Chubby guy selling translation books on the sidewalk when phones do it faster and for free. He can't be making any money so how does he stay chubby?

Depends on his sales ability and if he really has a product that cannot be got on a phone App. Many phone Apps for teaching a language, leave a lot to be desired IMHO, and I know that many dinosaurs still prefer a book. Not me. Books are too heavy. However I do have a small book of Thai North Eastern Dialect (Isaan). It has a lot of inconsistencies and errors (they could not find a good proof reader obviously). There is no App for this that I know of. Perhaps I need to search again. I can find two learn Lao Apps, but I am not that optimistic they will be good. So many Language Apps are really shitty, or just not in a style that I like. Have to try though.

I believe in learning vocab, pronunciation, and usage of words in a sentence or phrase, plus drills to change the sentence slightly to get a new meaning (for repetition and brain programming purposes). Grammar is typically not an issue, very simple in Asian languages. Vocab should start with most commonly used words more so than subjects or categories. E. g. I don't need to study all the food names (probably know them already LOL). I don't need to start with travel words, sports words, etc. Yet many Apps like to do this. One Lao App in beginners level has a category called Halloween. What a joke! We don't need to talk about that in Lao language. This App is clearly fucked as a learning tool. LOL Basic chit chat must be the beginning. The 2nd App I tried has this. Looks a lot more promising.

There was a really good small English to Thai phrase book years ago, sort of a Dictionary of basics and basic phrases. Books that do single English words to Thai are too difficult to get context and meaning right. I haven't quite seen the App that could best replace it. I learned a hell of a lot from that small book.

If he sells travel guides, I agree would be very stupid to buy them.

[EihTooms]

Some girls giving a no, are scared of pregnancy as well as STDs. So many young Thai girls get pregnant unintentionally, due to lack of birth control, not knowing how to make it safe properly, or birth control failure, etc. Pregnancy is a far bigger problem than HIV, I think. I known a lot of girls that got pregnant where was not the intention of both partners. I don't know a lot of HIV girls. Only 1 I heard about that I actually met previously (27 years ago). I realise many can be secret.

Double pregnancy protection with condom and also with other measures is a good idea. Some might use morning after pills after a condom accident, I don't know for sure. I have dosed a girl with morning after pills in that event before. The last thing these girls need, is another baby, or 2nd last (after HIV). Many of my girls had a baby already, and a high percentage were not exactly planned.

I was impressed by the awareness of these issues in an English fluent FL I met on ThaiCupid (I think) a few months ago. She was fine with my recent HIV test result document but asked if I had taken a recent follow up test to show how low my sperm count on emission is since I got my vasectomy. LOL. First time I was ever asked about that. By any female anywhere. Of course, unlike a blood check document, I don't have a document showing that I've had a vasectomy. I assume I got a payment receipt for the procedure decades ago. Probably should have kept it and had it laminated. lol. And, yes, there is some slight chance that a vasectomy can "fail" afterwards if the tubes manage to reconnect inside your scrotum and facilitate more sperm cells joining your semen. So I was quite impressed that she knew enough about how a vasectomy works to also know how one can fail.

In fact, I have not had a follow up test in years to confirm that my sperm count on emission is so low or zero so as not to produce a pregnancy. Maybe not since a few weeks after getting my vasectomy. That is, except for all the empirical evidence results testing I have been engaged in for decades where no pregnancy has occurred after barebacking countless times with countless different women of prime child-bearing age. And, while there is some very slight chance of a "rehealing/reconnecting" of what has been cut in a vasectomy, I think the rare failures are far more likely to occur soon after the surgery, not decades later.

She did come around to feeling comfortable that my vasectomy was good enough reason not to fear pregnancy and my recent blood check document offered enough feeling of safety to go ahead with a bareback session, even though I have not yet gotten back to her to set up a meeting to know for certain what will occur at crunch time.