Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.

In June of 17 my roommate broke her phone and Movistar told her repair would take 2 weeks. Went with her to Jumbo, picked up a new SIM, which was registered in her name, took it back to the apartment and stuck it in my old Motorola GSM phone. Worked fine. In August I broke my S7 edge. Went back to Jumbo, bought a new Claro SIM, to replace the Movistar SIM she had bought, took it home and stuck it in the Motorola and it worked no problem. Two weeks later I bought a Huawei Mate 9, which has 2 SIM slots. Put my old T Mobile SIM in one and my Claro SIM in the other. It continued to work fine on either SIM until I left at the end of March this year. The Motorola sat until February when a chica with a broken phone took it and put her Tigo SIM in it. It was still working 6 weeks later.

I confess, I don't know anything about cellphones in Colombia. I just know what worked for me.

[Fun Luvr]

Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. ...

I am not disputing that everything you write has happened to you, but it is not correct. Earlier this year, I gave a cellphone I bought on ebay to a friend and she registered it. I gave her a picture of the receipt from ebay, but I don't know if she needed it. The only identification on the receipt was the manufacturer and model. I registered my cellphone and all I needed was a copy of my passport.

I think the reason for requiring registration is to curtail the thief of cellphones. Once a phone has been reported stolen, it can't be registered by another person.

[Argo1990]

Playing with the idea of coming to Medellin, Bogota or my usual destination Pattaya in December. Never been to Colombia before but I decided to tinder plus into the 2 stated cities and damn those girls look fine. My question is: would you recommend a solo trip to one of those cities for 2 weeks or should I stick with Pattaya?

I wouldn't mind Pattaya honestly but I am slowly getting bored of Asian girls and want to try something new.

My absolute priority would be to go for young 8+ kinda girls. Think that is a realistic expectation?

[Cheerfull]

If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.

Was at the Mansion in August. Pricing varied from 180 to 250 COP or more, the lamer the gringo the more the girl makes. And the gringo needs to be entirely clear what he wants before walking into the bedroom with her or could end up disappointed. First visit to the Mansion since last year. The policia appeared on a number of occasions while there (a new development). Two types of cops, the neighborhood beat types out to shoot the shit and check out the babes and collect there tu sabes, and the other type of police all business looking for [CodeWord902] girls. People from the adj buildings call police occasionally to report suspicious activity. All it takes is one slip up for the whole place to come crashing down, along with everyone in it. The local office workers do not like the Mansion there.

[StripperMan]

That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?

In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.

[PolloNegro]

That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?

BTW; its possible to change your IMEI, its just takes a little work. I'm considering doing this due to US taking IMEI for no apparent reason. Who wants government stalkers.

Number but I have ran into someone in Centro who does & they changed the IEMI number on my phone & it now works without any problem. Now if I can pay him to sell me the program or teach me how he did it! Pollo negro is out!

[Jayson01]

Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me..
...So far, I've been using claro recently and I've been able to keep the phone on with the same number for the last months, I still receive text messages telling me to register the phone or risk having the phone blocked.

That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?

BTW; its possible to change your IMEI, its just takes a little work. I'm considering doing this due to US taking IMEI for no apparent reason. Who wants government stalkers.

[PolloNegro]

Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me, I've been through the fiasco of trying to get my phone unblocked by the official Tigo office. Foreigners cannot register phones in Colombia without a Cedula. End of story. I have my Colombian cellphone registered to my Colombian girlfriend's name, I've had too many phones blocked over the last 8 months. So far, I've been using claro recently and I've been able to keep the phone on with the same number for the last months, I still receive text messages telling me to register the phone or risk having the phone blocked. I know the cell phone business in Colombia up, down, round, & inside out. Have deep pockets & patience if you want to enter that game. Imagine, if unauthorized persons in Colombia bought a shipment of cellphones and just turned them on, it would counter set the cellphone market and make police job incredibly hard. In an effort to stop this from happening, if you do not register the phone in 30 days, the cellphone companies block the entire phone. Another hurdle, if you bring a phone into Colombia from somewhere else, in order to register it, you will need a factura. Good luck getting one for under $80 mil pesos. The alternative to this is going into an official Tigo, Claro, Movilstar office & buy a phone directly from them, then they know the phone is good, it will be registered right then and there and the Colombian government will have fleeced you just like they do the Colombians. Do I know anything about phones in Colombia? Huh, you can bet your bottom dollar I do. Plus when you register the phone officially, you leave the office & 4 hours later your phone may or may not work, especially if it came from outside of Colombia. What do I do? I bring a different unlocked phone with the box everytime I come to Colombia, & before I leave, I sell the phone for $300-$400 mil pesos. Just make sure you have a Samsung or Old iphone, Colombians will buy them hands down. Pollo negro is out!

[Paulie97]

I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.

But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out.

I've seen it again and again, the hotter Centro casa girls graduating to places like Energy or Loutron. Two Venezuelan friends I've known for a year recently moved from a Centro strip club to Fase Dos. Can be hard to bring yourself to pay three times as much for the same girl that may not look quite as good as the life takes it's toll.

Have also seen the same in San Jose, Costa Rica with the move from the MPs to the Del Rey.

Same girl, triple the price though in this case some go back and forth daily.

[Knowledge]

I'm a little less confused now, thanks. I'm not curious enough to visit but my remaining confusion is about the women knowing why you are there being. Isn't that true of any other venue like strip clubs, casas, and Lleras bars. I think the part about it being a gringo spot is the attraction for some. As best I can tell, that is what sets it apart. It's just me but I doubt I will ever understand the value proposition. We all have to find our happy places.

If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.

[JjBee62]

Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation..

You're both right. Most Colombians would be thrilled with 45 k per hour. At that rate, he only needs to work 25-30 hours per week to live well, after paying gas and maintenance. However, if you're looking for someone who can handle everything you described and you're comfortable with the price, it's a good deal.

As for the 8+ women only being found at the top venues, you missed completely. If you want to pay the highest price, usually for the lowest service, go to the hottest girls at the top sites. If you would rather get girls just as hot, with better service at a much lower price, you have to look elsewhere. Head up into the hills some time. Take a walk through the estrato 2 neighborhoods. You'll find plenty of 8, 9 and 10 girls who aren't playing the gringo game. They aren't going to be point and click, but if you can handle a conversation, there are plenty of opportunities.

[PolloNegro]

Here yee Here yee! Why is there so much disagreement on the board, LOL. I love this place. Love it so much, I actually rented 3 rooms, 3 different locations. Won't complain about prices call most of the board are pro's and get girls at the cheapest rates. So in this report I will allow you to see what a $18/ day room looks like, what a $30/ day room looks like, and what a $58/ day room looks like. The girls are plenty, but I have my own stable, and I like the centro girls. Just my own liking. I am actually seeing many skinny girls on this trip, as I come to find out many guys are looking for spinners and petite girls. I'm a ass man myself. But as a good monger I switched it up just to see what the rave was about all the skinny girls? I am seeing at least 3 girls daily, plus my girlfriend, and one of her cousins. I did eat my Wheaties and drank my Gatorade. I will be posting a few pics on my next few posts. If you feel you're paying too much, you have 2 choices. 1. Find a cheaper date. 2. Bring more coins on the next trip! Complaining about cost in Colombia tells everyone on the board a whole lot. I'm not saying be a fool. I am saying, put in the ground work and you will lower your costs significantly! Pollonegro is out!

[Mr Enternational]

If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state.

I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.

Some of you who are Soi 6 regulars will know this girl Tukta. I must have bonked her at least thrice when she used to work at Soi 6. Butterfly Bar if I remember right. I have not seen her in 2 years and it has been over a year that I visited Pattaya. And now she magically pops up at. Hold your breath. Sapphire. Now that is some serious upgrade.

But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out, then pick them up in the more popular venues when they are overpriced.

[ShawMan74]

45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.

Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation.

I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.

I understand when something gets played out, and becomes more of a fraud than anything else (thailand, netherlands) but all the talent is in the commercialized / legalized areas. Its a balance. I've learned this the hard way (see my posts in Buenos Aires forum). If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state. This is clearly witnessed in the difference of quality to be found between Cali and medellin. Medellin girls blow Cali out of the water, and the few stunners in Cali usually came from medellin for a reason. Otherwise the real talent goes running to medellin by any means necessary, her gifts / value are wasted in the small towns. HER availability in the first place is courtesy of legalization and her price is wonderful only by dint of the exchange rate.

[IamLookin]

If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.

I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.