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  1. #27692
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson01  [View Original Post]
    First of all there is s huge difference in the experience of a Bugatti and ford focus not mention the technicals but the girls at gusto's and the rest of the city, not so much.

    Anyways I see you don't believe in price change but how do you explain other city's in the world that have seen major price changes? Rio and Marrakesh for example.
    First of all. I like that. First of all, from a strictly functional standpoint, the difference between a Bugatti and a Ford is negligible, based upon the driving habits and abilities of most drivers on most roads. Of course it's an unfair comparison because the girls in Gusto ate not noticeably better than the girls you can find anywhere in Medellin.

    I do believe in price change. Prices are constantly changing. Prices will always change and usually the price will go up. Prices in Medellin will go up. No doubt in my mind.

    However, in a city if 4. 5 million, the price point is not controlled by 20 or 30 women. Just like the price Bugatti charges won't raise the price of a Mustang GT.

    The price in Gusto has gone up, because it's a point and click environment. Plenty of guys want that simplicity. The club is walking distance to their hotel or apartment. Buy a few drinks, a girl comes over. 15 minutes later he's fucking the hottest girl he's ever been with. He doesn't care about $200.

    But it's a closed environment. He's not working Facebook or going after any other segment of the market. What he spends in Gusto only matters in Gusto.

  2. #27691
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    "She was well worth it."

    First, what you, or anyone else pays doesn't matter to me. You could be paying 500 k for a CBJ from the toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer that hops around Veracruz and I wouldn't care. BTW, if anyone has CBJ from toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer on their bucket list, catch her before someone ruins the market.

    She was well worth it is what everyone thinks, no matter how much they paid. If they're paying $200 at Gusto, they are comparing it to spending $2000 in Miami or NYC. And they're probably getting a better fuck.

    Gusto is one club. On any night there might be 20-30 girls hoping to hit the jackpot there. Meanwhile, there are 50-75 more girls within walking distance who will happily accept 150-200 k.

    A handful of people buying Bugattis, has no affect on the price at the Ford dealership.
    First of all there is s huge difference in the experience of a Bugatti and ford focus not mention the technicals but the girls at gusto's and the rest of the city, not so much.

    Anyways I see you don't believe in price change but how do you explain other city's in the world that have seen major price changes? Rio and Marrakesh for example.

  3. #27690
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaman  [View Original Post]
    I know Girls on gustos a really well dressed for discos and have make up, but just would you think the same kind of girl can be found on casas like Energy.
    That's a plastic representation of the "added value" concept from Economics. The same bottle of wine is priced 10 EUR in a supermarket in Italy (country of legendary wines), 50 EUR when you have dinner in a fine restaurant in the same country, Italy, 250+ USD (say 200 EUR) in a fine restaurant in Manhattan. And in Manhattan you also have to add a ridiculous +20% gratuity.

    The customer pays not only the content, the same in all places, but what's around that.

  4. #27689
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Gustos over 10 x I hang out with a few of the workers there. On a slow night 200 k might be possible but unless a girl is absolutely desperate on a thurs- sat night 200 k isn't possible unless it's closing hours and she is desperate. It costs her 20 k alone to get in.

    Even the security guards I hang out with who introduce me to girls I can bang for 150 k from their side of the hood tell me 200 is the norm and some girls maybe 150 usd. This is the thurs. Sat crowd. All other days girls don't pay an entrance and it's not that busy so I'm sure anything is possible.
    How do you go from 20 k COP to 200 USD? That's madness. It costs her 20 k COP to get in so she won't go below 600 k COP for a quick fuck? And what do you mean by hang out? You mean these guys sell you drugs and hookers?

    That's just crazy talk, hahaha.

  5. #27688
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Miranda Cardona FB.

    Went to Energy and picked a flaca named Manuela. Perfect round natural ass with petite build. Tried to negotiate BBBJ for 40 k which never fails me and she counters with 100. I laugh say no pound her doggy as hard as I can lmao. It was still fun.

    Went to Gustos with my friends on a Saturday night for their Haloween party. There were 2 stunners. Long story short her opening price was 250 $. Told her I'm good. Leaving at 4 am I see she hasn't been pulled so I go over to her tell her 250 k. She says no again. My point is these girls are not going to come down off the price especially the model type ones. While Facebookis a great option the model types are few and far between.
    Just would like to ask you, have never been to massages houses on Medellin. How would you compare the girls on casas vs the girls on Gustos. I know Girls on gustos a really well dressed for discos and have make up, but just would you think the same kind of girl can be found on casas like Energy.

  6. #27687
    I have been to Gustos over 10 x I hang out with a few of the workers there. On a slow night 200 k might be possible but unless a girl is absolutely desperate on a thurs- sat night 200 k isn't possible unless it's closing hours and she is desperate. It costs her 20 k alone to get in.

    Even the security guards I hang out with who introduce me to girls I can bang for 150 k from their side of the hood tell me 200 is the norm and some girls maybe 150 usd. This is the thurs. Sat crowd. All other days girls don't pay an entrance and it's not that busy so I'm sure anything is possible.

  7. #27686
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhagolo52  [View Original Post]
    I agree, it is a shame that the chicas in Gusto are charging this much theses days. And Yes it is both of our fault, the inexperienced / lazy gringo and the chicas for this problem. I have only payed 400 K pesos once and that was once! She was well worth it and to this day we have stayed friends. I am afraid that it will turn like CR also where ugly chicas are asking Cien and they will expect it or they will get upset and ruin the city..
    "She was well worth it."

    First, what you, or anyone else pays doesn't matter to me. You could be paying 500 k for a CBJ from the toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer that hops around Veracruz and I wouldn't care. BTW, if anyone has CBJ from toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer on their bucket list, catch her before someone ruins the market.

    She was well worth it is what everyone thinks, no matter how much they paid. If they're paying $200 at Gusto, they are comparing it to spending $2000 in Miami or NYC. And they're probably getting a better fuck.

    Gusto is one club. On any night there might be 20-30 girls hoping to hit the jackpot there. Meanwhile, there are 50-75 more girls within walking distance who will happily accept 150-200 k.

    A handful of people buying Bugattis, has no affect on the price at the Ford dealership.

  8. #27685
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Went to Gustos with my friends on a Saturday night for their Haloween party. There were 2 stunners. Long story short her opening price was 250 $. Told her I'm good. Leaving at 4 am I see she hasn't been pulled so I go over to her tell her 250 k. She says no again. My point is these girls are not going to come down off the price especially the model type ones. While Facebookis a great option the model types are few and far between.
    I've pulled 3 times from Gusto and never paid 200 USD. I also had the one chica who bumped into me leaving Gusto (I was at The Beer Store on the other side of the park) and she was fine with 200 k.

    Were there other people within earshot of you? I'm pretty sure there's a group of chicas at Gusto who only do 200 USD and pressure each other.

    EDIT: There was a comment earlier about "educating" customers at Gusto. Or at least the dudes who are spending 200 USD. Friendly advise, don't do it. Don't show up to these places and tell customers what they should be paying. It's bound to [CodeWord140] someone off. Either a customer or one of the chicas and that could lead to problems.

  9. #27684

    Days 3-5 and a thought on Gustos

    Miranda Cardona FB.

    Tiny girl definitely girl next door type. Not really my style but I committed a date so went through with it. She is very sweet will want to smoke some weed before hand. BBBJ is decent can't DT and she has braces but wasn't an issue. Damage was 200 k.

    Went to Energy and picked a flaca named Manuela. Perfect round natural ass with petite build. Tried to negotiate BBBJ for 40 k which never fails me and she counters with 100. I laugh say no pound her doggy as hard as I can lmao. It was still fun.

    Went to Gustos with my friends on a Saturday night for their Haloween party. There were 2 stunners. Long story short her opening price was 250 $. Told her I'm good. Leaving at 4 am I see she hasn't been pulled so I go over to her tell her 250 k. She says no again. My point is these girls are not going to come down off the price especially the model type ones. While Facebookis a great option the model types are few and far between.

  10. #27683
    Quote Originally Posted by ThadMax  [View Original Post]
    I will be returning to the Eternal City of Spring for my 4th visit. !
    FWIW, it's the City of Ethernal Spring.

  11. #27682
    Quote Originally Posted by SBTiger  [View Original Post]
    Are Casas like Loutron, Energy, etc. Just walkin? Or need to call upfront, etc.

    Prices / services have to be negotiated? Language seems to be serious issue- Google Tran can help but only that much.

    Any choice between the 2 (Loutron, Energy), what are the going rates?

    Thanks.

    Sam.
    They are all walkins.

  12. #27681

    Casas walkin?

    Are Casas like Loutron, Energy, etc. Just walkin? Or need to call upfront, etc.

    Prices / services have to be negotiated? Language seems to be serious issue- Google Tran can help but only that much.

    Any choice between the 2 (Loutron, Energy), what are the going rates?

    Thanks.

    Sam.

  13. #27680
    Quote Originally Posted by Nclpimp  [View Original Post]
    I remember a few years back the mansion sent out pics from their party. Can we get that again or from people that were there for us poor schmucks that didn't have the pleasure of being there.
    This girl had an interesting costume.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails costume.jpg‎   no costume.jpg‎  

  14. #27679

    Agreed

    I agree, it is a shame that the chicas in Gusto are charging this much theses days. And Yes it is both of our fault, the inexperienced / lazy gringo and the chicas for this problem. I have only payed 400 K pesos once and that was once! She was well worth it and to this day we have stayed friends. I am afraid that it will turn like CR also where ugly chicas are asking Cien and they will expect it or they will get upset and ruin the city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson01  [View Original Post]
    I think we need educate these guys when possible, the information is available for anyone with little effort. But if these guys keep coming and pay the 200 USD at Gusto, then more girls will flock to Gusto and it should have an effect on the rest of the market long term. This could end up in stunners being hard to get outside of Gusto prices range.

    I can't see how these two market can co-exist long term (we shall see), where one is asking 200 USD and next door is asking price 200 K pesos. I know the guys paying 200 USD are still an extreme minority and novice travelers, that's why the the market hasn't changed but when the tourist volume to MDE increases I would expect changes to have an effect. Unless guys stop paying those dumb 200 USD we may have a Morocco situation here which was inflated by rich arabs. I can understand that occasional 200 USD where you say I can't find a girl like this anywhere else but that excuse is not valid in Colombia.

    The question is are these guys aware of what they're doing (probably not) to their pocket and possibly the market, because stunners are not exclusive to Gustos. If I heard those guys talking in the balcony I would definitely ask them to open their eyes or fly to Paris or London and pay 200 USD and sleep at a 300 USD hotel, there you can live your western life to the fullest and no need to learn spanish, win-win.
    .

  15. #27678

    In Medellin from 10/31-11/4 -- 4th visit.

    I will be returning to the Eternal City of Spring for my 4th visit. I had originally planned to try somewhere else (I've been to Cartagena as well) - but Medellin keeps pulling me back!

    I'm happy to link up with fellow mongers if anyone wants to meet. I'm staying at a new hotel that just opened. Then Poblado for a couple of days. I was wondering if there are any new / emerging casas / strip clubs that one should look out for (I haven't been to MDE in 2018).

    Last time I tried to hit Loutron. But couldn't find it. Could someone please confirm that this is the correct address: Calle 16 a Sur # 9 e-500.

    If anyone wants to grab a drink / dinner before a night of fun in the city. Let me know!

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