FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[ExpatLover]

A really good looking woman who can deliver well performed AO can make more money as an independent escort, or even in a more upscale FKK. Not that they can all manage that. Many seem under the sway of a "boyfriend. ".

And also thinking that their health is more important than the money.

[Neurosynth]

... So my theory is, that those AO / RTC clubs will always have less chances to attract really good looking women, because the service expectations from you guys is very high. ...

A really good looking woman who can deliver well performed AO can make more money as an independent escort, or even in a more upscale FKK. Not that they can all manage that. Many seem under the sway of a "boyfriend. ".

[Tp273]

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...129&viewfull=1#post2243129.


Tp273, for example, just wrote he has visited all the clubs I reported about, but didn't write a single line. These are the things that make me post only once in a while whether I travel or not. I post more for myself, as a diary to remember things, than for people who can't write a line of info.

One may like my posts or not, but I do take the time and effort to write them for the benefit of people who give nothing back or just "I was there" (and... ?) or maybe just criticism. I am practically the only one in these desolated thread bothering to write a few "Blah Blah Blah". I apologize for that.

I did put a number of posts on ISG of the larger Clubs ( Oase, Sharks, Oceans, & Babylon) I visited on my last trip but have not got around to posting anything here about the smaller clubs. My business is requiring me to spend a lot of time making up for the 3 1/2 weeks I spent in Germany. When I get time, maybe in a few weeks I will share my adventures to Arabella, Grimberg, Luderland, Fruede39 , the Deitz & my brief stop at M-Exclusuive.

I also visited other non AO clubs such as Treff 188 , SaunaClub49, & XS Sauna club.

[Member #4585]

Indeed! I am doing the Sauna / FKK club thing now for 3 yrs, but didn't so far risk the AO thing. I am just learning that RTC means also AO.

So my theory is, that those AO / RTC clubs will always have less chances to attract really good looking women, because the service expectations from you guys is very high. So even a BBFJ.

Kuni, you will find some good looking and pretty women in the AO clubs, this is partly why some guys persevere, then you have hit the jackpot fucking without a condom, pulling your bare dick in and out of her holes. Natural sex as it should be and written in the bible. You become a hunter looking for that gem in the clubs among so much coal.

[Kuni042]

Indeed! I am doing the Sauna / FKK club thing now for 3 yrs, but didn't so far risk the AO thing. I am just learning that RTC means also AO.

So my theory is, that those AO / RTC clubs will always have less chances to attract really good looking women, because the service expectations from you guys is very high. So even a BBFJ.

Kuni, I hadn't understood why you carried on posting here about Great Palace, Salome and other clubs which are not AO, now at least I found out you didn't know what AO meant. Glad everything has been cleared.

About Ludertreff, yesterday 2 friends of mine were there. I'd say the club is in a phase of transition.

8 girls, 4 from "old" club, 4 from RTCs: Larissa and Maya from F39, Denisa from Luderland and I'm not sure about Anastasia from Arabella. They all offer the same service they were offering before the "fusion". One girl, I think I was told Jasmine, even BJ covered!

Mind the prices: 20 minutes 30 euros, 30 minutes 50 and 1 h 80.

My opinion is that the survivors of Aplerbeck will soon leave and that the club will become by all means a RTC, more or less like it happened with F39 in the beginning.

Varenne, I saw you RODed my posts. And I loved your comment. Thank you.

[EastGoing]

Kuni, I hadn't understood why you carried on posting here about Great Palace, Salome and other clubs which are not AO, now at least I found out you didn't know what AO meant. Glad everything has been cleared.

About Ludertreff, yesterday 2 friends of mine were there. I'd say the club is in a phase of transition.

8 girls, 4 from "old" club, 4 from RTCs: Larissa and Maya from F39, Denisa from Luderland and I'm not sure about Anastasia from Arabella. They all offer the same service they were offering before the "fusion". One girl, I think I was told Jasmine, even BJ covered!

Mind the prices: 20 minutes 30 euros, 30 minutes 50 and 1 h 80.

My opinion is that the survivors of Aplerbeck will soon leave and that the club will become by all means a RTC, more or less like it happened with F39 in the beginning.

Varenne, I saw you RODed my posts. And I loved your comment. Thank you.

[Member #4585]

Forgive my ignorance, but your question below was not answered (maybe it was.. but by PM?). I am mostly visiting GT, YY, Sharks and Oceans. So, this thing with RTC (red carpet club -- T = Teppich = carpet). Is this just the optics of the club? Or is it a special cluster of owners? Or is some sort of special service implied here?

RTC or translated into Red carpet clubs means obtusely that the attraction is AO sex meaning that all sex services are without rubbers. Only way to go for that natural GFE feeling.

[Neurosynth]

The new club Ludertreff is assimilated to Arabella, Verena, Luderland, Grimberg, Venus, F39 (what we now call RTC, irrespective from the actual decor). It seems that some girls from the Aplerbeck saunaclub team remained after it changed to Ludertreff though, and their service might not have adapted to what you expect in an RTC.

I confirm Luder Lounge is not an RTC.

I appreciate your adding new info to the mix here, but this seems a bit vague. If AO is not the rule rather than the exception, I'd be reluctant to think of Ludertreff as an RTC. Perhaps some others can report on what fraction of providers there are comfortable with BBFS.

[Kuni042]

Forgive my ignorance, but your question below was not answered (maybe it was.. but by PM?). I am mostly visiting GT, YY, Sharks and Oceans. So, this thing with RTC (red carpet club -- T = Teppich = carpet). Is this just the optics of the club? Or is it a special cluster of owners? Or is some sort of special service implied here?

Are you sure this is a true RTC? Luder Lounge to the best of my knowledge is not, but it is sometimes confused with Luderland in Leverkusen which is.

[Varenne]

Are you sure this is a true RTC? Luder Lounge to the best of my knowledge is not, but it is sometimes confused with Luderland in Leverkusen which is.

The new club Ludertreff is assimilated to Arabella, Verena, Luderland, Grimberg, Venus, F39 (what we now call RTC, irrespective from the actual decor). It seems that some girls from the Aplerbeck saunaclub team remained after it changed to Ludertreff though, and their service might not have adapted to what you expect in an RTC.

I confirm Luder Lounge is not an RTC.

[Neurosynth]

The location where until recently Saunaclub Aplerbeck was operating, has been turned in an RTC club:

FKK-Ludertreff.

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Mausi had eventually to leave his house in Aplerbeck to move to a new location in Wambel, now named Luder Lounge. Maybe the choice of the similar "Ludertreff" name wanted to emphasize the connection?

Are you sure this is a true RTC? Luder Lounge to the best of my knowledge is not, but it is sometimes confused with Luderland in Leverkusen which is.

[Usel1]

Verena is in Dortmund as well but domain has no. Sex as the other RTCs.

It shouldn't be a problem; in Bochum F39 and Arabella.

[Varenne]

The location where until recently Saunaclub Aplerbeck was operating, has been turned in an RTC club:

FKK-Ludertreff.

Entry price: 30 (for this week, free entry 10-14 and 17-20).

Opening times: 10-24.

Website: https://www.fkk-ludertreff.de/index....udertreff.html.

The website says something like "committed to the tradition of our house". Considering this used to be the house of the (in) famous Mausi, I wonder if they will ask you to kiss the German flag by entering, or whatever? Mausi had eventually to leave his house in Aplerbeck to move to a new location in Wambel, now named Luder Lounge. Maybe the choice of the similar "Ludertreff" name wanted to emphasize the connection?

[CpHowdy]

After hanging around with Kosher Kowboy and the gypsies in Dietz I started the long drive up to NRW.

Stopped into my first NRW FKK, Arabella, tonight to see who was around. There were about 8 girls or so and probably about the same number of guys. There wasn't much I was interested in when I walked in except one girl who said she required covered so I passed. She had great tits though so it was tempting. I was pretty disappointed with the LU compared to what was at Dietz earlier in the day.

After hanging out for a while Bianca showed up. I prefer big boobs but she is slim and has a nice body aside from the boobs. On the couch she was very friendly and a great kisser so I took her to the room. She was an excellent kisser, from my point of view, and moved onto a BJ which also was very good. We then moved to her on top with a lot of kissing which I really liked then moved to mish and finally spooning which is usually the position that gets me to cum. After busting a nut we cleaned up and headed back to the floor.

While I was walking to the room with Bianca I saw another girl who looked pretty hot and kept her in mind for my next room. After I came out from my Bianca room I saw her again and she had 2 guys trying to get her so I thought I would hang out to see what happens. I needed a rest before another room anyway. I hang out a bit and she came out and nobody was there so I grabbed her and we went to the couch. It was really too soon between rooms for me but she was pretty cute, not big tits, but she was cute enough for me to overlook the boobs. Her name was Alexandria and she started off with some great kissing and a bit of rubbing on the couch and then we headed to the room. She sat me in a chair and kissed me up and down eventually moving to the BJ. She deeps throats but it actually hurt with my dick banging the back of her throat so I had her stop DT'ing and she continued a good BJ. I then laid her on her stomach and played with her ass a bit. I then started screwing her with her on her stomach which was very nice and we moved to a few other positions. It was too soon between rooms for me so I could not cum but she was a lot of fun to try with. I am meeting with her again in the morning when I should be able to come. Then I will head to F39 to see what it is like.

[Neurosynth]

Eastgoing.

My simple question was:

"The theme of this thread is 'NRW AO Clubs.' Does Club By Night offer AO as a matter of course like the RTCs do?"

You could have simply answered the question. But instead you expect the reader to decode your ramblings which you describe by saying "I post more for myself, as a diary to remember things. " You might want to reconsider what the purpose of a forum board like this is.

Back to the main point.

The simple response to my question seems to be AO was unavailable from all but one worker there. Based on that I would say posts about "Club By Night" do not belong in this thread.