Pattaya Reports

[Phazze93]

Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?

Such as openly groping them in the bar? Never.

Not unless the girl is super aggressive & insists on it. IE: grinding / dancing on me. But the "top" girls I usually go for don't behave like that anyways. They simply don't need to... since they could be standing still and every guy would still be drooling
At the very most I'll keep any physical contact casual / minimal to at least express interest & not give off the wrong impression of being disinterested.
It really just doesn't arouse/do much for me to do anything right then and there. i like the first titty grab to be when she's full naked in my bed & the first ass grab when she's about to ride me cowgirl.

In the gogos, I'm usually more focused on screening the girl to gauge personality, chemistry, whether or not she'll be good in bed, etc.
My eyes are enough to determine whether a girl has a firm ass, nice tits, flat stomach, etc. I mean. They're practically dancing naked anyways.

Looking at a second trip in summer.

Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.

Cheers.

depends on what you're looking for. i think BKK is better for finding regular girls.. i mean its a bigger city after all not just a sex destination.
no smooci in pattaya yet, but i'm personally not a fan of calling girls online when you can see them in person.
plenty of SW in pattaya
no personal experience with BJ bars.
you don't HAVE to drink beer at gogos, you can get soda, water, seltzer water, etc.
yea the music in gogos is mostly shit.

presumably you're older - so i will say, if you go into top gogos, there are going to be a whole lot of young guys there you're competing with... just being honest.
seems like soi 6 would be a spot you'd enjoy. only 1 way to find out

Dude, you don't know what you're missing out on. Ain't nothing better than a skilled provider doing her thing because she wants to be there, no strings attached. 😁.

More seriously, there sure are benefits of keeping things transactional. Certainly if you don't need any more complications in your life. If a punter is not careful, "Freebies" can be incredibly expensive.

Enjoy, G.

i've honestly never been offered freebies. except maybe once?... but i paid for it in other ways... took a stunner in BKK out during the day for a nice lunch & a movie. it was one of those premium theaters w/ daybeds. ye we fucked in the theater. movie was dogshit (murder on the orient express). thank god i imagined the scenario and brought a condom with me

but i have had working girls make attempts at being "girlfriends" to which i usually make it very clear that i'm not looking for a girlfriend.
just friends is ok... but then again, what is there to talk about with these girls? really not much. language barrier is already a pain in the ass as it is.

[Penguin69]

Looking at a second trip in summer.

Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.

Cheers.

[EihTooms]

Top girls aren't going to appreciate being groped & treated like sex toys or you asking them to bareback the first time you guys meet, etc. Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others.

Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?

[Goferring]

i know you're comment wasn't directed at me, but since my post sparked it...
i'd never take a session for free. better to keep it transactional and avoid it becoming anything more than services rendered.
prepared to pay because I have the cash to pay & find no pleasure in leaving expectations up for interpretation

Dude, you don't know what you're missing out on. Ain't nothing better than a skilled provider doing her thing because she wants to be there, no strings attached. 😁.

More seriously, there sure are benefits of keeping things transactional. Certainly if you don't need any more complications in your life. If a punter is not careful, "Freebies" can be incredibly expensive.

Enjoy, G.

[Goferring]

No. I am merely putting myself in a 20 year old hooker's shoes.

All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.

I just don't see the difference between being "ick" because of age, looks or behaviour. Girl's react to guys based upon their preferences across all of them.

[Phazze93]

This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?

Lets be honest. Doesn't matter how good looking the customer is. Most of these girls probably don't want to be banging random dudes all night.
But I'm the customer and I'm paying her for her time. I'm not going to hold her past our agreed upon time but I'm going to do what I can to make the time enjoyable. NOT for her sake. For mine.
If my attempt at bringing some level of enjoyment for her gives ME a far better experience. Then I'm going to do it.

lets be clear, I'm not talking about making a girlfriend cum because I love her oh so much... on that note, find me a working girl that WANTS to be treated like a hooker/sex object... and ill show you a girl with a few screws loose

and yea. i'm still young & relatively good looking so our perspective/experiences might be different.

if you read my post, i specifically said... there isn't 1 specific factor thats going to make you shine like a diamond. kempt nails... smelling nice... small factors. but whats the flip side? smelling bad with long curly nails? you want the girl to hold her breath while you're fucking her?

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

per my post... i mentioned having money being "an obvious pre-requisite". my point is that you can't just show up with money & expect stunners falling all over your dick. unless you're Jeff Bezos and you're gonna retire them after 1 session lol

Funny how the same guys talk about all the undesirable chicks in the bars and the gogos that they would not give the chance to treat them right, but all the sexy desirable chicks would be putty in their hands if they were to be treated decent. Go over and let one of those chicks you don't find so attractive to service you. Then you might see how the 20 year old sexy gogo chick really feels when she is treated decent. All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.

yea i've already tried. its like dating below your league.
4th night, cute girl from Whats Up gogo. Not my usual type, but she was "girl next door" cute.
Putty in my hands.... I could have gotten away with playing starfish/corpse. had to ask her to leave after 1st pop short time.

but that experience... was simply BORING. At my age, i still enjoy a challenge. Hence my post which was in regards to STUNNERS.

Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?

i know you're comment wasn't directed at me, but since my post sparked it...
i'd never take a session for free. better to keep it transactional and avoid it becoming anything more than services rendered.
prepared to pay because I have the cash to pay & find no pleasure in leaving expectations up for interpretation

[Mr Enternational]

Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?

No. I am merely putting myself in a 20 year old hooker's shoes. I guess if you were a 20 year old male hooker you would not be able to wait until the 70 year old chick that treats you half decent turns you on and makes you cum. And that session would be on the house!

Funny how the same guys talk about all the undesirable chicks in the bars and the gogos that they would not give the chance to treat them right, but all the sexy desirable chicks would be putty in their hands if they were to be treated decent. Go over and let one of those chicks you don't find so attractive to service you. Then you might see how the 20 year old sexy gogo chick really feels when she is treated decent. All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.

[Goferring]

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?

[Mogwai]

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

Just because we pay them doesn't mean we cannot turn them on or make them cum. Of course it helps when you're still young and handsome but when you're old and ugly you can compensate that with your experience, tongue and fingers.

[Mr Enternational]

OMG. You still have a lot to learn my friend.

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

[Mogwai]

This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?

OMG. You still have a lot to learn my friend.

[Mr Enternational]

**Want a girl to give better service? TRY to turn her on / make her cum.

This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?

[Phazze93]

1st trip to Pattaya
9 nights
Nov 16 - 25.

Overall tips / advice for getting stunners (not exclusive to Pattaya).

*A few additional points I forgot to mention*.

**Whether you're physically attractive or not. How you present yourself still matters.
Dress like a bum & expect to be treated like one.
Don't try too hard or risk coming off as a weirdo or looking like a newbie.
Just keep your outfit clean & simple / appropriate.
Maintain basic grooming habits.
-brush your teeth (nobody likes bad breath).
-Shave your face if you can't confidently rock a beard. (scraggly hairs look gross).
-Smell nice. Don't have to wear cologne but at least don't be smelly. So shower before you go out.
-Want a good BJ? At least keep your shit trimmed & neat. (girls don't want to pick pubes out of their mouth or have your rough pubes roughing up their face).
-Nails, keep them trimmed. Nobody wants to feel like you're shanking them while fucking.

At the end of the day, these girls are going to have to walk out of the GoGo with you in front of all her friends, mamasans, customers, in-public, hotel, etc.
And for many customers, more likely than not, these girls would be out of your league if they weren't working girls. So try your best to bridge that gap haha.
Imagine. How would you like to be seen with a fat / ugly / unkempt looking girl with everybody knowing that you're about to fuck that monstrosity for money?

We're talking about stunners after all. You don't get to be the best by fucking the worst.

**Want a girl to give better service? TRY to turn her on / make her cum.
While lots of these girls are lesbians / into tomboys and won't be attracted to guys in general. Do you really expect to get good service if you just lie there and say "get to it"?
-assuming the girl is clean & is ok with it, don't hesitate to go down on her or at least start with a bit of foreplay to ease her into it.
Being a starfish goes both ways.
-don't want to go down on her? Bring some toys. No need to get crazy since not all girls are into kinky shit. But what girl wouldn't appreciate a bullet?
Always. If you can make the girl cum, you'll be better off than if you can't.
-if you like to fuck hard, first start slow until she seems comfortable. Otherwise you risk her trying to rush the session & get the fuck out ASAP.
What working girl wants you to immediately mount her like you're an aspiring bull rider?
-if you're into something specific. Ask first if she's cool with it.
EX: just like how you probably don't want her to stick her thumb in your ass w / o asking. The reverse is likely to be true too.
Hair pulling. Lots of girls wear hair extensions so don't fuck up by tearing her extensions out LOL! I'd imagine its a quick way to end a session.
Choking. Uhh she's being paid to fuck a stranger that might or might not be a psychopath serial killer. Don't scare them.

In general, just like with a regular girl. Chemistry doesn't just happen w / o at least some effort on your part.

#2 Cheers you fuckers.

[Phazze93]

1st trip to Pattaya
9 nights
Nov 16 - 25.

Just got back from my 1st trip to Pattaya. Below is a general report of my key takeaways / experiences during my stay.
Hung out with Monkeypaw (2nd time), FL Hawk (1st time), Banana Boi (1st time), Lew Ashby (1st time).
Feel free to reach out if you'd like any additional in-depth details.

Little about Myself
*Asian-American, 27 y/o, Chinese / Taiwanese background.
*Not the rowdy type, generally more quiet & prefer discretion.
*Prefer stunner type: tall, slim, pretty face, fair skin, no baby damage, girls that would make you hard just looking at them, etc.
**Given my preference. I'd just like to preface my report by saying that I can come off as a super picky motherfucker (LOL).
But at the end of the day, I didn't come here to fuck "normal" looking girls that I wouldn't have much trouble getting back home.

Hotel#1- Hilton (1st 7 nights).
*Pros: Great overall experience, fantastic views, good breakfast, nice rooms, friendly staff, NO joiner fee, mall w / food & banks, great pool.
*Cons: priciest 5 star option, not walkable to & from WS (especially with a girl), gym could be better.
*Misc: while it may not be a huge factor, I'm sure girls are more receptive to a nice place as opposed to a dump.

Hotel #2- WAVE (last 2 nights).
*Pros: Spacious rooms, smaller hotel / fewer rooms = more lowkey, NO joiner fee.
*Cons: pricey for a 4 star option (comparable to Hilton), not walkable to & from WS (next door to Hilton), ground floor pool, exposed to street noise, etc.
*Misc: Hilton > WAVE. Pretty straight forward, it is what it is. Breakfast is AYCE but comes in set menus, not as good as Hilton.

Regular Daytime activities
*Pros: if you like beach / water activities, seems like there's definitely enough to keep you entertained.
*Cons: aside from beach / water activities, not a whole lot else to do. (But then again, I didn't come here to "travel")
*Misc: I really didn't do shit during the day, just chilled by the pool, smoked cigs, drank & napped.

Food
*Pros: lots of cheap eats, no shortage of good thai food, lots of seafood options.
*Cons: fine dining is lacking, overall not great. (especially if you come from a major metropolitan city IE: NYC, LA, Hong Kong, etc.).
*Misc: fine dining generally not cheap even compared to what you'd find in 1st world countries. Not worth the price.

Soi 6.
*Pros: cheaper alternative to WS, opens before WS for you to pump one out before evening, lots of girls.
*Cons: if you're like me & are looking for "stunners". They'll be harder to come by here. After all, there's a reason why they're here and not in a top GoGo.
*Misc: never ended up taking a girl from Soi 6, but from what I was told. Girls are likely to try harder & provide better service than their WS counterparts. Makes sense.

Soapies
*Pros: several within walking distance of each other, cheaper than Bangkok, convenient.
*Cons: overall quality of girls not as great as Bangkok, fewer establishments than Bangkok.
*Misc: never ended up taking a girl from soapies, I think I ended up getting spoiled w / my trips to the Lord in Bangkok.

Walking Street (found all my girls here)
*Pros: shit load of GoGos, shit load of girls, more entertaining than BKK scene (if you enjoy a challenge), best overall quality of girls IMHO.
*Cons: shit load of girls, so again if you're looking for true stunners... you'll still have to search. Not cheap, expect to drop $$ if you want the best.
*Misc: lots of tourists. Some can be rude & just plain obnoxious, annoying fuckers trying to sell you on sex shows etc.

Favorite GoGos
1-Palace, 2 (tie) -Panda / Baccara, 4-Sensations, 5-Sapphire.
*Overall, Palace just had the highest concentration of "stunners" & IMHO the best ambiance / setup.
Small in size, harder to find seats, but keeps you closer to the girls on stage & more interaction with girls walking around.
Girls here definitely hustle you more than other bars due to the close proximity, but its fun if you're not cheap.

"Stunner" Experience.
Just like with non-hookers, the prettier the girl, the more options she has, the more difficult it is for you to get what you want.
Thus, its only natural that the top girls will naturally be more receptive to youth, good looks & overall charm / game. (Money being an obvious pre-requisite, IE: can't be CHEAP).
Highly doubt this fact would change regardless of where you go to monger.
So to be completely objective, if you are older or less attractive or lack charm / game. You are going to have a harder time getting the best looking girls plain & simple.

Regarding customer demographics, the "top" GoGo bars are predominately asian. Live with it, you're in Asia. It's the same in Bangkok.
Do we smoke? Yes. If you don't like it, don't come or sit further away. With me, I make it a habit to blow my smoke away from others but that is the extent of how much I care about what others think of my smoking in a GoGo.
From what I've seen, not just in Pattaya, east asian customers are less likely to be rowdy / disrespectful, less stingy / cheap & are overall more chill / relaxed.
These traits aside. These are ASIAN girls. Don't be surprised if they are more inclined to go with ASIAN customers.
EX: lot more similarities between Thai culture/behavior vs. Chinese, Korean, Japanese than say Thai vs. Non-asian American, European, etc.
These girls are still human after all. Not mindless fuck machines. They'll go with what they're most comfortable with.
EX: on more than 1 occasion, girls have told me after that they like the fact that they can be seen walking with me in public & it look like they're with their boyfriend/guy friend rather than a customer. i suppose less shame/judging looks from others... which seemingly translated to them being more comfortable in bed as well.
(not have it been completely obvious that they're about to fuck me for money)

Overall tips / advice for getting stunners (not exclusive to Pattaya).
**Be mindful / respectful, but still have fun.
Yes you're in a GoGo bar or w/e, but you're not at a frat party or a den of sex slaves. Staff aren't going to appreciate you making a mess or bothering other customers.
Top girls aren't going to appreciate being groped & treated like sex toys or you asking them to bareback the first time you guys meet, etc. Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others.
Girls talk, so don't think that if the girl hasn't seen you or been with you that she doesn't know about you via her friends.
(A girl I took from Palace showed me her group LINE chat w/ other girls wherein they talk shit / give feedback about customers LIVE)
Ultimately, girls will be less likely to go with you if you have a bad rep / image.

**don't be cheap / stingy. But this doesn't mean flash / flex like an idiot. Spend where you SHOULD spend. Tip when it is appropriate.
Flex like an idiot and girls will just see you as an easy target for money. Spend too little and girls won't even bother with you.

**know what you want. Unless what you want is to fall in love... In which case, don't come LOL or else you'll be the one getting fucked the hardest.
While these girls might not be the most educated / book smart, they're queens at bullshitting. Keep your lies believable & be honest / direct with what you're after.

Between Bangkok & Pattaya, haven't been turned down by any girls. Doubt it's because of any one factor I've listed but rather a healthy balance of them all.
Won't guarantee you good service every time, as i've had my fair share of bad experiences... but will better your chances overall.

EXCEPT #174 at Palace. Who seemingly has also turned down everyone else on this board LOL. If anyone manages to get her. Share please.

Cheers you fuckers.

[Turgid]

.................Decided to have a 2nd session with an abnormally tall girl who turned out to be a post-op. Fell for it line hook and sinker because she was at the "right" end of the street, had a superior body but with small tits and none of the tell-tale overexaggerated curves or ladyboyish tics and mannerisms. What should have made me suspicious was that "she" was still available. I walked away from the room in a huff. Well no I didn't. Having already drawn blank once and money not growing on trees for me I made the most of the situation and managed to finish. Yes I know, shame on me, but look, I fuck my own hand sometimes and it is not even post-op yet. I am to have it operated but I keep putting it off.

You have my sympathy. Happened to me once in HK. Thai in walk-up; I could not get hard. Only after leaving I realized it was a post-up. Hope it never happens again.