Kyiv

[Riina]

5000 usd a month is my offer.

Just to be clear, you are an under 25 Asian sugar daddy that gives his sugar baby well over ten times the monthly average Ukrainian wage. I believe it.

[Michi T]

Ahaha, ok, that explains a lot. For 5'000 per month, such a Ukrainian girl is with everyone "together". No matter hold old, how look, etc.

[AntonySun1996]

What is a "sugar friendship" for you? Do you send her a monthly sum of money and in return she does not take a boy friend? What amount are we talking about?

5000 usd a month is my offer. I don't stay in Kiev all the time though. Sometimes I stay for two weeks, sometimes three, each month. This time I decide to stay a bit longer, around one month.

I prefer a monogamous relationship. She told me she doesn't have any boyfriend, which is true according to my intel. The reasons why I prefer monogamy are twofolds. First of all, it makes both of us more emotionally devoted to the relationship. Sex is not the only thing I need in Kiev. Second is about safety concerns. Since we do barebacks a lot, monogamy keeps the risk of getting STDs to a low level.

[Michi T]

What is a "sugar friendship" for you? Do you send her a monthly sum of money and in return she does not take a boy friend? What amount are we talking about?

[AntonySun1996]

The challenge though, Antony is not as promiscuous, and doesn't need variety. .

Pretty much an accurate summary of me. I feel handling multiple girls is too energy-demanding, so I prefer one-on-one games.

He wants a true GF. Except he looks for her in the wrong place. But that Pygmalion archetype has been represented in the Art many times.

I wouldn't be that pessimistic. I'm still trying and have already made some progress. It really takes time to get to understand Ukrainian girls' mentality but would be worth doing so. Just going to see how far I can go.

[AntonySun1996]

Antony's problem is that he thinks money will get him a girlfriend. That is never the case and he should focus on improving his status (looks, appearance, confidence). I definitely need to do the same, but I am smart enough to never to try to date a girl that I am paying to have sex with. Best bet for him is to spend some money to bang some hot semi-pros to improve his confidence until he finds a real girl.

Experience helps in future relationships. I somehow met a 8+/10 on Tinder and we hit it off a couple years ago. She was 22 yo, 176 cm, artistic and with long brunette hair. Pretty much exactly what I dream about, but I could not handle being obsessed and jealous about her. She wanted to move really slow in the relationship (which most hot girls do) and it drove me crazy which ruined the relationship. While the situation really sucked at the time, the experience has helped me a lot more in the future. Just as we always comment girls can smell money. They can smell confidence and status too.

What I expect is not necessarily a real girlfriend. A monogamous sugar relationship would work for me. Transforming your sugar GF into a real GF is quite difficult, but I don't mind trying.

Sometimes when I ask my sugar GF if she wants to have a serious relationship with me, she thinks that I just want to fuck her for free, which is not the case. I'm still willing to pay her. I just want to get more emotionally involved in the relationship.

[AntonySun1996]

If anyone lives near metro station and wants to have some drinks together, PM me.

[PhotoSlider]

Rarely is free pussy free.

Agree. I do like however that you use the adverb "rarely", instead of "never" or "always not". Pussy is rarely free in Ukraine, makes one so much happier when it does happen.

Perhaps we can differentiate between transactional hourly P4P, even GIA / KEC actresses hired for 8-12 hours, and civilian girl, that decided to have a good time. Assuming that the gentleman is already in Kiev, then it is his choice to save money and eat fast food, or go to Avalon on his own, solo. Or instead have an enjoyable female companionship, and feel the smooth skin of her inner thigh, welcoming his hand under the table, knowing that there will be a follow up soon.

I married a Ukrainian from Kiev, she was 18 I was 48. It was expensive free but I enjoyed it. I now have a 23 yo Russian GF who is also an expensive freebie but worth it to me. I have little desire to seek out lots of casual encounters, one hot GF meets my needs. I will include a taste and I would consider her an 8 - 8.5, perfect body for my liking.

Digging deep, playing all the way in! Takes substantial determination.

The frontal view is outstanding. Nothing to add or take away! 18, huh? I am trying to date the girls of legal age that are 3 times younger than me. A friend of mine from San Diego says: "We are only as young, as the women that love us!

[Michi T]

Enough pointless arguing about who is right and who is lying.

Friend of mine writes today from Kiev that he doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to visit all the girls demanding his attention. Competition is high for males with a promise of bettering girls lives. Riina, we should copyright this expression, I'll pay you royalties after opening T-shirt business.

Would be great to get some real reports. February and March are usually the slowest. April and May is when it picks up, as young hotties change into more revealing outfits, and stroll around showing off what they have to offer.

I am getting jeaouls) I also want to be Kiev! But now work and in April visit Georgia. No Ukraine for me for the moment (.

[Michi T]

Hi,

I am at the moment in Donetsk. Any tips on how and where do I get to meet some nice pleasure girls? Any good massage parlours etc, places like recommended bars or whatever?

How the border crossing from Ukraine to Donezk at the moment? Where the crossing? Still needed to give some bribe money?

[Michi T]

Rarely is free pussy free. Food, enough drink to relax their guard, all costs along with the efforts made on those who don't perform at all. I married a Ukrainian from Kiev, she was 18 I was 48. It was expensive free but I enjoyed it. I now have a 23 yo Russian GF who is also an expensive freebie but worth it to me. I have little desire to seek out lots of casual encounters, one hot GF meets my needs. I will include a taste and I would consider her an 8 - 8.5, perfect body for my liking.

Haha, well done))) That the young nice girl.

[PhotoSlider]

Enough pointless arguing about who is right and who is lying.

Friend of mine writes today from Kiev that he doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to visit all the girls demanding his attention. Competition is high for males with a promise of bettering girls lives. Riina, we should copyright this expression, I'll pay you royalties after opening T-shirt business.

Would be great to get some real reports. February and March are usually the slowest. April and May is when it picks up, as young hotties change into more revealing outfits, and stroll around showing off what they have to offer.

[JohnnyW]

I'm up for sharing the legit and good girls we find on Kiev.

https://t.me/joinchat/HNPXAw7tQXsDc-RTFYGsIQ is a channel for sharing information.

For more information about Kiev and girls.

[InDonetsk19]

Hi,

I am at the moment in Donetsk. Any tips on how and where do I get to meet some nice pleasure girls? Any good massage parlours etc, places like recommended bars or whatever?

[GDreams]

Sorry, spending between $1000-1700 on an airline, missing a couple of weeks of work, to bang a 5 or 6 is definitely, not free pussy. As I have mentioned, most guys could bang 5 or 6's in there native country, for free. . You guys might want to take a double take on the pictures you guys are posting of these supposed High Quality girls. Just normal girls, in an over inflated market.

Rarely is free pussy free. Food, enough drink to relax their guard, all costs along with the efforts made on those who don't perform at all. I married a Ukrainian from Kiev, she was 18 I was 48. It was expensive free but I enjoyed it. I now have a 23 yo Russian GF who is also an expensive freebie but worth it to me. I have little desire to seek out lots of casual encounters, one hot GF meets my needs. I will include a taste and I would consider her an 8 - 8.5, perfect body for my liking.