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05-12-19 18:25 #12127
Posts: 25Re Kama.
Thanks for the report. I Googled and found Kama's website (located on Wyndham).
Question: Their website quotes 900 for 60 min in the VIP room, or 900 for 90 min in the Standard room -- the difference in rate being the naturist therapy feature. "What is the naturist therapy"?
Thanks in advance.
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05-10-19 15:07 #12126
Posts: 5849Originally Posted by FarEastTrader [View Original Post]
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05-09-19 13:10 #12125
Posts: 95Originally Posted by BearFoot [View Original Post]
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05-09-19 13:08 #12124
Posts: 95Originally Posted by MrRainman [View Original Post]
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05-07-19 11:26 #12123
Posts: 5849Originally Posted by MrRainman [View Original Post]
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05-06-19 11:41 #12122
Posts: 15Kama Spa.
Hello,
Not being too fussed about all the to and fros of trying various apps etc, I usually go to Kama Spa as an easy 'go to' place, it is central for me, offers more GFE than the cheaper more mechanical alternatives (E. G. K-Pressure. Although if you haven't been, do try it!
Visited Kama the other night, had a main lander available for HK $900 for an hour. Really decent firm massage, spent ages working out the knots after a long flight, then into the half way point, the tickling and kissing started. On the flip there was more all body kissing and stroking, before on go a flipsy piece of plastic and a BJ, followed by her mounting on top for vigorous outside rubbing action. This combined with more kissing got me over the edge, and the session was then completed with more massaging of head and shoulders.
It is pricier than what else you can get, but it is reliable and easy. I'm happy with that.
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05-06-19 11:37 #12121
Posts: 15King Hing Intel.
Hi,
What is the news re King Hing building? Still worth a visit? Still a mix of foreign and domestic workers + the Europeans?
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05-05-19 16:11 #12120
Posts: 1Report on Hong Kong from a first-time visitor.
I've gleaned some helpful info here recently, and thought I'd post a report on my experiences as a first-time visitor to HK, for other folks like me landing on these pages.
Like others have mentioned, much of the action in HK seems to be centered around walk-up brothels and incall situations. I personally prefer a good outcall, and I'm happy to pay a premium for quality, convenience and reliability. I won't entertain stupid prices, but in general price is not high on my list of concerns -- it's about the quality of the experience, as I don't do this often, and I'm picky to a fault. And "free" options like Tinder or Skout or SA just require too much time and energy.
Smooci worked. The selection is thin in HK and the girl was not as attractive as the pictures but it was the same girl and she was on time and a good sport. I'd use it again if they had better selection. Price was higher than what you hear about for the incall options in HK but far from outrageous and it's fine by me because I get what I want and it's an outcall.
Next I tried a honeygirl. For fellow noobs, a honey girl, supposedly part-time SP from outside of HK (often the mainland) who is in town for a brief period and open for business. If you click the honeygirls link on Go141 you'll see they're often hot. Are they real? Can a foreigner do this? Well, I read here that you should go for one with a video, since videos are harder to fake. I found one, texted the number and had an appointment and address to go to within minutes. Easy. Too easy.
I said I much prefer outcalls but hey, I've never been to HK before and I'm up for an adventure. If this is actually real maybe I could get into this, I thought. Got to the address and then was given a room to go to via text. It was in a regular hotel with tourists and I tried to blend in and not look like a ham sup lo. Get to the room and the girl was most definitely not the one pictured. Similar age, but yeah not even close to the one in the video on the website. I came close to leaving but I had put all this energy into this and thought I'd see where it went. Maybe not the right move. Overall experience was depressing. Mechanical, awkward service with fake moaning, more or less resulting in self loathing Not something I'd do again. Thought about texting the guy behind the scenes again to give him a piece of my mind but why bother?
Next I thought I'd try one of the escort agencies you can find with a search. The girls on Smooci are generally from local agencies so maybe it's fine. Started to try and book one and then read on here about absurd prices from them ($7000+ HKD for 1 HR). Lame. Gave up on that.
The walk-up building thing is something I considered just for the adventure but after the honeygirl experience I doubt I'd be into it. I definitely don't want to be rubbing shoulders with other dudes in the hallway, etc.
So general take on HK: not my cup of tea I guess. Great city otherwise.
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05-03-19 15:38 #12119
Posts: 1076Originally Posted by JeffZeke [View Original Post]
The HK / Asian experience is much different to be sure and a lot less ladies involved and I am amazed at how many mainland girls put their info up and not in English. I don't know a lot of guys that are going to go across the border to meet a girl they cannot communicate with on an ongoing basis.
You are correct about college towns, Denver is teeming with Univ of Colorado gals, same for Orlando, Atlanta, etc. I suspect that most of the girls are receiving less than they tell their friends just because of the competition. I'm not very active, just because the whole purpose for me would be to meet someone to have an ongoing arrangement without all the work that goes into a full time relationship, my experience is the gals still want to be pursued and don't seem to get the dynamic, and then complain when they aren't taken seriously. I do pay them for showing up, as long as they dress and act like they are serious, even if we don't click, I think they deserve something for the effort. My success has been in the 28-35 range. They have some life experience and know how to show appreciation for being treated like a lady.
As I said, I did find a gem here in HK, but have not had the opportunity to reconnect, but need to "send up a flare soon" and see if we can enjoy another evening together.
Sky.
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05-03-19 01:02 #12118
Posts: 40Originally Posted by Flyboy2000 [View Original Post]
Some notable differences I can think of are as follows:
1) Price per punt: There may be some real value in seekingarrangement newbies, but I seem to come across many who are trying to overcharge. Especially saw this in NYC, where everything is inflated, but starting to creep up in different cities. The good thing about the pros is that the price is already set and predetermined. The negative is that pros tend to stay for just the allotted time (either 30 or 60 min, or whatever) and are usually clock-watching. Semi-pros tend to not pay too much attention to the time, and it's common to have drinks / dinner / lunch etc beforehand, just to get to know each other better. It's more GFE, in the sense that it's almost like a date.
2) Pros don't care if you are married, in fact, sometimes they prefer it that way, so you won't be clingy or too needy of their time. A few of the seekingarrangement profiles specifically say "NO MARRIED GUYS" The reason is maybe some self-consciousness, or sometimes they are afraid of a crazy wife coming after them.
3) BYOC. Need to bring your own condom for semi-pros, usually. I suspect some bareback is going on, since some of these semi-pros don't know the business that well, and are a bit naive. But I always insist on a cover.
4) There's quite a bit more pre-meeting work when punting on seekingarrangement. Emails back and forth, sending pics of yourself, getting some rejections. Some girls take a few days to even respond, and some won't respond at all. I've gotten some who will ask for a picture, and then go silent. I'm OK with that, no biggie.
5) The few girls I talk to all say that seekingarrangement is HUGE in the college campuses. LOTS of girls know about it, and they love meeting up with rich old guys, LOL. The sugar-baby scene is apparently quite popular, and they will introduce it to each other.
6) There are apparently some sugardaddies out there that are looking just for friendship, companionship (non-sexual), someone young and pretty to dine with, strictly platonic set-ups. This surprises me, but apparently it's out there.
7) I've done too much punting throughout these past few years, and I've become desensitized to the pros who see multiple clients a day, who are mechanical, and go through the same routine with every punter they see. In my early years, this was OK and I could still have an enjoyable time. But these days, the thought of being in line with 10-15 other punters seeing the same girl. Kinda grosses me out. That's why the seekingarrangement peaks my interest. So far so good, almost all of these ladies have been super-horny! One way to tell, they get extremely wet down there upon some nominal stimulation, DATY, FIV, etc. NO LUBE NEEDED!
8) With pros, they have a "business" so they have incentive to be on time, show up when they say they will, and generally try to give good service. Otherwise, they might suffer from negative reviews, which will in turn hurt their business. With semi-pros / seekingarrangement ladies, there's no such mechanism for checks and balance. So if they flake out and don't show up, there's not much recourse for the punter.
Here is some advice I have to anyone who would like to try sugar arrangements:
1) Some girls out there do not have a good understanding of the "sugar" relationship. They either put out nothing essentially, and expect to be paid, some just to talk to them or even for the initial "meet and greet". Make sure to weed those out right away.
2) You can tell a LOT from their profile. Some just talk about themselves exclusively, even being bold enough to call themselves "spoiled", "love to shop", expensive taste, "spoil me rotten", what can you do for me attitude shines through. AVOID these. The profile can also reveal some underlying attitude issues, "don't waste my time" "any REAL men out there" AVOID these.
3) I am weary of 18-20 year olds. The maturity is usually not there. Of course you have to always watch out to make sure they are at least 18 years old!
4) You have to be an expert in evaluating photographs. Some end up much less attractive than their glamour shots they took 10 years ago. Some, however, have average pictures, but turn out to be very pretty in person!
5) Moving to texting / phone call is my goal. That shows some intent and openness on their part.
6) Watch out for the crazy / bipolar / depressed ones.
7) We all like different things, but I tend to prefer college educated, or even ladies with higher education, graduate degrees. Just more in common, for me. For some of you, education level might not be a big deal.
8) When to discuss the money aspect of the arrangement. This has varied, but it has worked well both ways. Sometimes we get that agreement beforehand, even before we meet. Other times, we discuss in person only after dinner / drinks etc. When we both want to proceed with the arrangement.
9) If the sugarbaby LIKES you, you are GOLDEN For providers, almost all of them will proceed with the act and basically pretend (if they are skilled) to give you some affection and let you bang them. For the SB's who connect with you, WOW, they will be all over you, dripping wet pussy, tongue lashing, humping you like crazy in cowgirl, leg-shaking, multi-orgasmic events! It's unbelievable what can occur, and it would be highly unlikely to duplicate for professional providers, at least in my limited experience.
10) Set boundaries about phone calls, frequency of texts, frequency of visits, and expected allowances. If you are a hunk, they might fall for you, LOL!
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05-02-19 14:25 #12117
Posts: 1211Originally Posted by ImRickJames1 [View Original Post]
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05-02-19 14:24 #12116
Posts: 1211Originally Posted by FarEastTrader [View Original Post]
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05-01-19 23:53 #12115
Posts: 1778Originally Posted by SkyRyder [View Original Post]
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05-01-19 22:22 #12114
Posts: 1076Mostly misses
Originally Posted by Flyboy2000 [View Original Post]
I did meet one lady, that I truly enjoyed the time with her, and look forward to being able to see her again, when the planets align. I hear a lot of the SA ladies talk about Salt Daddies, and don't waste my time, those I automatically dismiss. My time is just as valuable and I've coined a new phrase of "Salt Baby", which means a gal that doesn't understand what "mutual benefit" means in an arrangement. I am not overly impressed with "cute", and the availability of attractive gals at reasonable prices in the P4 P market puts a premium on class, intelligence, and what it means to be a good companion, as opposed to just being cute. I suspect that is more "me" than them, but it is nice to have the ability to say "not interested".
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05-01-19 15:11 #12113
Posts: 10Agencies with outcall.
Anyone got any helpful names? Indies are great, but looks like there isn't a good place on the inter webs to find them for outcalls.