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................. I was in El Centro today and haven't been there in five days and noticed all kinds of new Vzs. The problem I have with all of them is how many of them are fat and pudgy, Yes there are fat and pudgy Colombians, but now because of the sheer numbers of Vzs the place is overrun with fat and ugly ones.............
It appears that among the problems in Venezuela food is not one of them.
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At #30148:
It was reported he had criminal record for gun running.
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They (Venezuelans) will not be leaving anytime soon as Maduro has sunk his boots into the ground and is there to stay, think Castro after 50 plus years.
I just read yesterday that Peru, as of this Saturday (tomorrow) will require all Venezuelans trying to enter into Peru to have both a valid passport and Visa, which none of them have. What does this mean? They will only be able to stay either in Ecuador or Colombia so get ready for the coming wave of even more venies in Colombia including Medellin in the coming months and years as word gets back that newcomers cannot get into Peru so they migrate to Colombia or Ecuador.
The Tall Man.
You are spot on with your analogy of Maduro and Castro, and short of somebody taking out Maduro, he's going to be around a while. In regards to countries accepting the Venezuelans, I was in Santa Marta this week, and three Vzs were telling me that Ecuador is much better for them to go to as apparently the government does offer some type of financial assistance and I guess wants them there to augment their population by providing for them whereby Colombia just lets them in. I think Colombia will eventually go the way of Peru when the government has to raise taxes on the Colombian citizens to cover the costs associated with them being here. A generation ago during all the Narco killings in Colombia, millions of Colombians left for Venezuela who accepted them when they were very prosperous. Of all the Colombians I have spoken with, about 80% of them don't want them here and I guess after a generation ago, lots of people don't remember what Venezuela did for the Colombians, but the older Colombians do.
In regards to all of the Vzs in El Centro, the problem I have is just the sheer numbers of fat and ugly ones. The wave of them is in just the last few months has been insane, and is only going to get worse as you mentioned. I was in El Centro today and haven't been there in five days and noticed all kinds of new Vzs. The problem I have with all of them is how many of them are fat and pudgy, Yes there are fat and pudgy Colombians, but now because of the sheer numbers of Vzs the place is overrun with fat and ugly ones. So as a comparison if you were in El Centro prior to the Vzs coming with 100 Chicas and 20 of them being gross, imagine with the Vzs being there with 500 Chicas, and 250 of them are gross. Maybe the numbers don't make sense, but I just believe there is a much higher proportion of fat and ugly Vzs than Colombians in El Centro. Just my personal observations being there almost everyday.
The other thing I wonder about with this heavy influx of the Vzs is how the Colombian guys are doing with all this, seeing that they probably make up at least 95% or more of their customers. With all of the Vzs here, prices have to be dropping dramatically for them as simple supply and demand would dictate. There's also the issue of the Colombian Chicas getting squeezed as a result of all this. They hate them because it's cut into their business and existence.
My bet is that something will happen soon enough in El Centro with all of the Vzs there, like the local government or Police taking some type of measures, etc. It may go something like, Botero Plaza is a tourist destination now and the surrounding area is very historical, etc, and the area has to be cleaned up or controlled during certain hours.
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 Originally Posted by TheTallMan
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Yep I just returned from Ecuador, Guayaquil is one city where I checked out the P4P, my best simplistic generality statement is that with very few exceptions the cuties that are available anywhere in Ecuador will be either Colombian or Venezuelans.
The Tall Man.
But good Pygmies!
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I agree
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I for one would like to know myself? With all the beautiful women available after awhile I would love to take a break and get a nice relaxing massage. I would imagine the price for a massage must be very reasonable as well. If anyone knows where please share?
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Sometimes you just want a massage. I went to Zanzéand (near the Mansion) twice. First time got a great one hour hot stone massage for 80 k. The girl (small ok looking blond) kinda got near my package making me thing the extras were available on request but I was happy with the massage. Second time I went I got this chunky pleasant looking brunet. Same massage but at the end before I could even object, she doused my johnson with oil and began with the HJ. I thought about waiving her off but admittedly once a girl touches my junk I just am incapable of saying stop LOL. I tipped her an extra 30 k which she seemed dissatisfied with but I didn't ask for a HJ. I had also heard from a friend that he got full service there. But again, a really good therapeutic massage (so many are just so so) is great and if someone can recommend I'd be interested too.
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Yes they are. A few years ago this girl made a ton of money live streaming her video's. Her name is Kloe la Maravilla aka NATALIA TAMAYO. She is still popular in Colombia, she even had a TV show at one time. Some of her more explicit video's are on PornHub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj0AEIgK8Lc
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I for one would like to know myself? With all the beautiful women available after awhile I would love to take a break and get a nice relaxing massage. I would imagine the price for a massage must be very reasonable as well. If anyone knows where please share?
 Originally Posted by MiamiSammy
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Why would you go to a monger site to find out about legitimate massage? Are you daft?
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 Originally Posted by Surfer500
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Lots of good information in your Post about casas and other stuff, however the part on the Venezuelans needs clarification as it is misleading.
You will see lots of girls selling candy, however they are not all from Venezuela, lots of Colombians sell candy as well. The main congregation of Venezuelan hookers in EL Centro is in and around the Museum de Antoquia, the park directly in front of it, and the pedestrian walkway to the Veracruz Church. Yesterday afternoon there was at least a hundred of them out there if not more. They typically are in groups of two to four girls. In the last two months there has been a major influx of them. However the majority of these Venezuelans are disgusting being overweight and ugly. There are very few "quality" girls among them as you state in your post.
In my opinion the Venezuelans have squeezed the Colombians out in the area I mentioned to a certain degree just based on there sheer numbers and rock bottom pricing. It's been harder and harder for me to find nice Colombian girls in this area over the past months and my Colombian regulars don't like what has happened in the area. There has also been robberies and violence occurring with some of the Venezuelans as well. Up until a few months ago it was cool having the Venezuelans show up, putting a little pressure on pricing, etc. But know I wish the situation in their Country would get resolved and they leave..
They (Venezuelans) will not be leaving anytime soon as Maduro has sunk his boots into the ground and is there to stay, think Castro after 50 plus years.
I just read yesterday that Peru, as of this Saturday (tomorrow) will require all Venezuelans trying to enter into Peru to have both a valid passport and Visa, which none of them have. What does this mean? They will only be able to stay either in Ecuador or Colombia so get ready for the coming wave of even more venies in Colombia including Medellin in the coming months and years as word gets back that newcomers cannot get into Peru so they migrate to Colombia or Ecuador.
The Tall Man.
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 Originally Posted by Balboa
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Haha, that's funny!
Just like the girl ay Gustos told me the other night that they have to charge a minimum of $200 dollars! LOL.
Then the next day she's texting me, saying Ok papi, 200 mil pesos will do, LOL.
Best thing I've found going in Medellin is just walking about Botero, Veracruz, etc, daytime.
Reconning for something sweet looking.
I hit gold 2 days in a row!
One 18 year old Vennie in Botero, another on the street with the Tavernas.
And actually another cutie working as a waitress passed me her phone number as I was leaving, and said, escrbame!
It's not that hard..
You must be my brother from another mother as I too love the hunt in centro. Yesterday I had to drop off my all night from the day before on oriental and so just parked about noon and walked around the whole area until about 4 pm, so over the course of 3 hours I found 2 or 3 newer venies that I have not seen before, all available, did not get any number but I will return this afternoon. Just need to mention how many chicas were out and about, probably double, seriously double from what I usually see on a Thursday afternoon.
I will head out this afternoon back to botero. My kind of place.
The Tall Man.
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 Originally Posted by BlackPage
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I have been missing the night adventures in El Centro more than you miss my reports LOL. To be fair, I must say that the MDE scene at night today is much more legal and quiet than years ago. Safer but less thrilling.
I won't be back to MDE soon. My next trips will be to Guayaquil (where ladies are ugly, cube-shaped, and also generally not available for casual sex, not to mention their "high Catholic moral standard", which is an aggravation), followed by just few days in Cartagena. Darth Vader is in hibernation currently, but ready to get back to life. Who knows when!
Yep I just returned from Ecuador, Guayaquil is one city where I checked out the P4P, my best simplistic generality statement is that with very few exceptions the cuties that are available anywhere in Ecuador will be either Colombian or Venezuelans.
The Tall Man.
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 Originally Posted by MiamiSammy
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I've spent a great deal of time in El Centro at all times of the day- and while you certainly don't want to be a dar papaya, it's not nearly as scary as people would have you believe.
Trust me 10 years ago at midnight it was scary for me. Now it is not so bad as before, but yet I would not recommend the majority of readers to stroll under the metro at Prado or in Cl. 54-55-56 after say 11 pm. I prefer to recommend caution.
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 Originally Posted by BlackPage
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My next trips will be to Guayaquil (where ladies are ugly, cube-shaped, and also generally not available for casual sex, not to mention their "high Catholic moral standard", which is an aggravation), followed by just few days in Cartagena. Darth Vader is in hibernation currently, but ready to get back to life. Who knows when!
If your looking for Pygmies, shouldn't you be going to Africa or South East Asia, or is there a concentration of them in Guayaquil.
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 Originally Posted by MiamiSammy
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Some of the worst lays I ever had were also the hottest. Some girls get to the point they think they're so hot all they have to do is allow a guy her favors. Give me a 7 with a good work ethic and a desire to please over a bored 10 any day.
But how would you know until you try it? There are no absolutes. The 10 could have a good work ethic and desire to please, while the 7 thinks she is so hot all she has to do is allow a guy her favors. Or it could even be possible that neither chick knows what they are doing in the bed. YMMV.
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 Originally Posted by MiamiSammy
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I've spent a great deal of time in El Centro at all times of the day- and while you certainly don't want to be a dar papaya, it's not nearly as scary as people would have you believe.
This may lead some to believe that El Centro is not scary, which really isn't the issue. The issue is that it can be quite dangerous, especially at night! So if your an obvious gringo, lot's of caution is advised in the night and early mornings.
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Gringo Popped In Meddy
https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioqu...lin-FA10983226
The victim was identified as Oliver Joshua, and according to Caracol Radio, the tourist arrived in the city on Wednesday afternoon and was murdered a few hours later.
Joshua only entered the country from Florida, United States, and according to the station the first versions point to the man "went out to make a cell phone call" when he was attacked by gunshots.
Witnesses cited by that frequency assured that the murderer wore a jean and gray jacket, and that after his assignment he got into a taxi and fled.
At a press conference on Thursday, the mayor of Medellin, Federico Gutirrez, was questioned about the murder of the foreigner, and the first thing he said was that he was a "hired killer".
"A person approaches him outside the hotel where he was staying, and arrives directly and gives him some shots that cause his death. He is already being followed up and communicated to the authorities of the United States. And until I do not have total clarity, I ask for time to say what could be the reasons for this death, "explained Gutirrez.
The mayor also said that what is clear, so far, "is that it was not for attempted robbery," because along with the lifeless body the authorities found "the wallet, his belongings and his cell phone, which is being analyzed and the calls you've had. ".
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