Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

I have never heard that before. Source? What about NEP sister establishment Butterflies? Significant development if true.

SL.

I agree. Seems unlikely. Could wreck their business completely. It is not that unusual for serving staff in bars to be Gatoeys though (or gays), or outside promo staff. Still Deja Vu had secret Gatoeys for years. So you never know. I remain sceptical till I see evidence for myself.

As was Ben Pincus's first Thailand post, we don't have to assume he really knows everything for sure. Hasn't he anything better to post about?

Billboard is certainly not known as a LB bar. He could have easily got mixed up between bars as lot of LB bars nearby. Surprising a guy would know which LBs were post-op anyway other than by rumours. I have never seen a post-op constructed "pussy" live in Thailand at close range (only a peak in the door at Voodoo and that was big bush LB). Never seen a LB dick live either. Only the tits to date.

Many years ago in home country, maybe 30 years ago, post-op ladyboys used to work as strippers. Below the waist when nude, they looked quite horrible really, so could not fathom how guys could enjoy watching them strip at all. Maybe some guys were blind to the miss-shaped bodies.

[Sideshow01]

I don't visit Baccara that often, but I've been asked to buy the first Heineken at the outside bar area for the last couple of years, at almost every visit. But clearly it has been due to the amount of customers everytime. This place is usually packed.

I walked straight in (first visit so none the wiser) but it was pretty deserted (midweek late November).

[GrapeMan]

Hi All.

In general, have you found Thai girls in gogo bars etc to be open to video recording?

How do you ask that in Thai? Or will they understand if you ask in English?

If you're taking them back to your hotel room they may be open to letting you snap some pics of them, just ask. Or hold out your phone and ask if you can take a pic and she'll get it. It may or may not work. As for videoing it. YMMV.

[Zahle]

I don't visit Baccara that often, but I've been asked to buy the first Heineken at the outside bar area for the last couple of years, at almost every visit. But clearly it has been due to the amount of customers everytime. This place is usually packed.

I am not sure what you mean. I went there early December and each and everyone had to buy a drink before entering the bar. It was the first time that I could not persuade them that I was a regular drinking customer and had to buy a drink before entering. The night was great, with lots of beauties and a few shows by six ladies that danced with bikini, then topless, then naked. Late December there were only a few beauties. Buying drinks was only asked after entering and it was just a bit dull. In no way was anybody barred from the club on any of these nights.

[Member #4733]

Billboard hosts post-op Kathoey. Just so you know, be on your guard if that's not what you're looking for.

I have been staring at the bath tub girls for quite a few hours in Billboards. I am pretty sure they all were straight women. Can't say about the carousel. But I wonder about that. I have not seen them at Butterflies. I spent a few hours there but could be that some are Kathoey. I surely have seen them at Kazy Kozy or whatever the exact name is.

[Bouvis]

Billboard hosts post-op Kathoey.

There are a lot of plastic surgery recipients there, I never knew they were post-op.

Did you have the unfortunate experience of discovering this?

[Sunlover2]

Billboard hosts post-op Kathoey. Just so you know, be on your guard if that's not what you're looking for.

I have never heard that before. Source? What about NEP sister establishment Butterflies? Significant development if true.

SL.

[Member #4733]

This used to be my only go to place in soi cowboy but a couple of years ago they spit out the members only shit on me. This was the end of my patronage. Wondering if they still indulge in this behavior on busy nights or better common sense has prevailed.

I am not sure what you mean. I went there early December and each and everyone had to buy a drink before entering the bar. It was the first time that I could not persuade them that I was a regular drinking customer and had to buy a drink before entering. The night was great, with lots of beauties and a few shows by six ladies that danced with bikini, then topless, then naked. Late December there were only a few beauties. Buying drinks was only asked after entering and it was just a bit dull. In no way was anybody barred from the club on any of these nights.

[Sammon]

You're right about the feeling about Indians-much of it justified. Almost all the night spots allow Indians in, but you may not get a nice welcome. However, if you're well-dressed, polite and reasonably good-looking, I think you should be able to do all right.

Discrimination is rampant all over the world. Do not take it personally. With plenty of entertainment options you will not be using your hand. Who cares if the establishment likes you or the girl likes you. You are there for fun.

There is no one nationality liked all over the world.

[BenPincus]

So true. Loud music. Lots of women. Lots of action. But. I have never been bothered by the girls there, true beauties and good looking alike. That was what was asked for.

Billboard hosts post-op Kathoey. Just so you know, be on your guard if that's not what you're looking for.

[Margaya]

This used to be my only go to place in soi cowboy but a couple of years ago they spit out the members only shit on me. This was the end of my patronage. Wondering if they still indulge in this behavior on busy nights or better common sense has prevailed.

[Gargano19]

Might interest you know that mainland Chinese are not well considered too, due to extremely bad manners in Thai View, and lack of respect. Viets also have a bad reputation. Australians had a bad reputation for sneaking out of Hotels without paying in the old days. English have a bad reputation for being loud and foul mouthed (bad swear words). Some hooker girls don't like white westerners and prefer East Asian customers (easier customers).

I have had good friends that were Indians, but I can still be irritated by groups of Indians in a similar way to the Thais, although skin colour is not a factor for me in the slightest. I just don't like sitting near roudy groups or near strong underarm body odours, regardless of country of origin. I don't regard it as prejudice. Many of us just don't want to sit and tolerate something that irritates our senses in some way. I could easily have same problem with those from my own country.

Many things that we do are disgusting to Thais. Therefore it is wise to become aware of Thai culture and values and try to behave in a way that is moderately compatible.

Agreed. I can't tolerate too group of people who are rude or "rowdy". For me I see so many Chinese, like you said, who are extremely rude. Most of them are very young maybe in their 20's, and they are also mostly in groups of 3-4. Worst part, they pay no respect when they are walking around, how many time I have seen them drunk and coming in front of car accidentally.

They maybe easy customers for girls (333 rule haha), but usually very annoying punters to sit next to.

[Syzygies]

I am 33 dark skinned male from India doing a solo travel to Bangkok and Pattaya for 2 weeks. I did RTFF and realized we Indians earned a bad name there. Are there any specific gogo bars or places where Indians / dark skinned guys are not allowed? I wanted to avoid the embarrassment and spoil my mood.

There are prejudices about foreigners from many different countries, for a wide variety of reasons too, some cultural. So Indians are not singled out, however groups of Indians in particular are considered to come with certain problems: very low spending, noisy / roudy behaviour, challenging and not wanting to pay the bill, body odours especially underarm that Thais are not used to. White westerners can stink badly in Thai view as well.

Might interest you know that mainland Chinese are not well considered too, due to extremely bad manners in Thai View, and lack of respect. Viets also have a bad reputation. Australians had a bad reputation for sneaking out of Hotels without paying in the old days. English have a bad reputation for being loud and foul mouthed (bad swear words). Some hooker girls don't like white westerners and prefer East Asian customers (easier customers).

All these prejudices arise from experience of people from certain countries, even if not all of us fit the reputation. Skin colour may be a factor but for sure it is not necessarily the dominant one, some Thais being quite dark skinned themselves.

I have had good friends that were Indians, but I can still be irritated by groups of Indians in a similar way to the Thais, although skin colour is not a factor for me in the slightest. I just don't like sitting near roudy groups or near strong underarm body odours, regardless of country of origin. I don't regard it as prejudice. Many of us just don't want to sit and tolerate something that irritates our senses in some way. I could easily have same problem with those from my own country.

Many things that we do are disgusting to Thais. Therefore it is wise to become aware of Thai culture and values and try to behave in a way that is moderately compatible.

[Canyon]

Hello people,

I am 33 dark skinned male from India doing a solo travel to Bangkok and Pattaya for 2 weeks. I did RTFF and realized we Indians earned a bad name there. Are there any specific gogo bars or places where Indians / dark skinned guys are not allowed? I wanted to avoid the embarrassment and spoil my mood.

Thanks,

Ranjob.

You're right about the feeling about Indians-much of it justified. Almost all the night spots allow Indians in, but you may not get a nice welcome. However, if you're well-dressed, polite and reasonably good-looking, I think you should be able to do all right.

[Bouvis]

I don't understand these YouTube guys. Instead of getting laid in Thailand they go around shooting videos and talking to strange men.

Guess OP better stay in his hotel room.

I was filmed chatting to a girl on Soi 4.

My cousin saw it on you tube and informed me.

I wanted anal and the girl declined.

My cousin asked "Did you ask for Anal on you tube?

I was thinking WTF??

Then I watched myself.

It was pretty obvious as to what I was after.

Captured on video for the world to see for eternity.

Oh well.