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  1. #48435
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem.

    Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.
    So, people (mongers are people) with high self esteem would not go meet women without money involved?

  2. #48434
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem.

    Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.
    Very well stated. Agree 100 percent. Never really seen it put in writing in such a concise accurate way.

    When I moved over 20 years ago the vast majority of dudes fit into the first category. I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that in order to live over here you had to have experienced some modicum of success in your life back home, be on a fat expat package, or be an English teacher who just didn't care about anything. There were also a lot of guys who could afford to come over here for a couple of months a year and they were normally quite successful back home as well. As flights became cheaper and things became easier and more accessible Thailand opened up to a very different type of punter. And that goes for both Western and Asian punters. So as time went by there were more and more that fit into the second category. I always found it comical with dudes who used P4 P to feed their ego. To me the whole idea of it is there is no ego involved.

  3. #48433

    Good post

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    This might be my category, with a footnote. That 3000 baht agogo girl is probably 2000 baht on the second evening and 1500 baht thereafter. But, there is no second date if the first date isn't on point. I have a history of sending the poor performers away before the first date is finished, usually with partial payment. I'll just go out and bring another back a short time later. I'm willing to pay whatever it takes, but I insist on good performance.

    There are also the men who have so much money that 1,000 baht versus 10,000 baht makes no difference to them. There is no point in haggling price because an extra 9,000 baht is no more significant to these men than buying the 10 baht water instead of the 7 baht water at 7-11.
    Its all about performance performance performance.

    I don't want a supermodel for 100 thb if her performance is shit.

    One point of disagreement, the guys with huge bank accts, I seriously doubt they are mongering where the rest of us are?

    If they are, I think they are lost, there are some big money venues in the world and sorry guys BKK is not one of them LOL.

    If I wanted to spend 10000 thb for a pop I wouldn't do it in BKK.

    The idea of a rich guy hunting pussy in BKK makes me want to piss myself laughing.

    I love Thai hookers but I doubt there is one worth 10000 thb in all of Thailand.

  4. #48432
    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPearl  [View Original Post]
    IMHO I'd add at least one other, 3rd, group.

    Those with average or high esteem who pay above market rates because:

    (A) they can and or have the disposable burnable income or assets to do so and or.

    (B) they hope this will get them better service and or.

    (C) hook the lady as wanting to be a regular if her service and or attitude is up to his standards.
    This might be my category, with a footnote. That 3000 baht agogo girl is probably 2000 baht on the second evening and 1500 baht thereafter. But, there is no second date if the first date isn't on point. I have a history of sending the poor performers away before the first date is finished, usually with partial payment. I'll just go out and bring another back a short time later. I'm willing to pay whatever it takes, but I insist on good performance.

    There are also the men who have so much money that 1,000 baht versus 10,000 baht makes no difference to them. There is no point in haggling price because an extra 9,000 baht is no more significant to these men than buying the 10 baht water instead of the 7 baht water at 7-11.

  5. #48431
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem.

    Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.
    I disagree. Low self esteem mongers are not chasing anything above a 7. They are all about getting girls for a cheap price. They could care less if she has the face of a pig.

  6. #48430

    Pay more

    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPearl  [View Original Post]
    IMHO I'd add at least one other, 3rd, group.

    Those with average or high esteem who pay above market rates because:

    (A) they can and or have the disposable burnable income or assets to do so and or.

    (B) they hope this will get them better service and or.

    (C) hook the lady as wanting to be a regular if her service and or attitude is up to his standards.
    Are you suggesting you do this? What else do you do this with? Hairdresser? Plumber? Car mechanic? Physician? Attorney?

    Do you pay more at restos so the cook, cooks better for you?

    Goferring wrote back last year a great post, that states this does not work, as a matter of fact, they know the reasonable price, and once you cross that line, you have labeled.

    Yourself a chump and / or easy mark, to be taken advantage of, and not to be respected.

    Wiser words were never spoken!

  7. #48429
    Quote Originally Posted by Lebyteme  [View Original Post]
    Long time lurker here. Too all you valued posters who have a hard time believing others posters claim about bbfs, age and physical appearance matters.

    Also if you could not go out and pick up attractive women in your home country then most likely the women in sea are not swooning over you also.

    If you can not go to a club and not embarrass yourself on the dance floor then what do you think some 18-25 yr old would see in you? Besides your wallet of course.

    Long story short. Some guys have no problems getting the extras because the girls would actually fuck them for free. Not taking shots at anyone, just trying to point out the obvious!
    Well said. Yes, age and appearance matter.

    Even so, sometimes Thai women will actually prefer the older well dressed gentleman rather than a Justin Bieber or Brad Pitt lookalike.

    Some Thai women are looking for a wealthy sugar daddy or husband to "take care" of her, her family, all her relatives, kin & the entire village.

    In return she will "take care" of her farang very well, I'm sure.

    Some other factors may also come into play to attract Thai ladies, besides mere cash and being a high or low roller.

    For example, how one smells. Is your scent of Chanel number 5. Or dog shit.

    For another example, are you a polite or interesting talker. Do you speak Thai. Do you show interest in your "date". Are you considerate. Do you have "game".

    For yet another example, race may also be an important factor with some Thai females, whether in or out of the "pay for play" market.

  8. #48428
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem.

    Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.
    IMHO I'd add at least one other, 3rd, group.

    Those with average or high esteem who pay above market rates because:

    (A) they can and or have the disposable burnable income or assets to do so and or.

    (B) they hope this will get them better service and or.

    (C) hook the lady as wanting to be a regular if her service and or attitude is up to his standards.

  9. #48427
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem. / Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.
    You seem to conveniently leave out that the 1st group sometimes sacrifices quality or convenience. Not always, but sometimes. ME, I prefer lookers over plain girls and I am willing to pay the market rate for them whatever that is depending on when and where I find them. Keep in mind that poon is a depreciating asset just like hotel rooms and empty plane seats. That why guys who are willing to wait until 4 am can usually score a better deal than guys that want that girl at 9 pm.

    As I indicated above, I pay the going rate for what I like when I want it. But that does not mean I always pay top Thai dollar IE 2000 to 2500 baht (oily), 2500 to 3000 baht (Go Go), 4000 baht & more (high end nightclubs), to sometimes well over 4000 baht in a Soapy. At the same time, or rather at different times, you can find me cruising Soi 6 or Soi Full Love Inn in Pat in the afternoon or Soi 4 and Sukhumvit looking for a sexy SW's from 1 am to 4 am. I dig variety. It mixes things up and makes it more interesting. But make no mistake, the sexy, scrawny, little girl I had fun with last time I went to 007 Bar (Soi Full Love Inn) and had for 1000 baht was no comparison in looks to the 6000 baht Maria Hotel & Spa soapy massage sideline girl that I 69'd and enjoyed licking her "A" hole.

    So, I guess this puts me in a 3rd group of punters who know the score and are willing to pay going rates to have their cake and eat it too when and where they want it. I will add that I don't care what other punters are doing or paying. My focus is 100% on the girls and having a good time. Other punters don't really exist in my world. 555.

  10. #48426

    Touche'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebyteme  [View Original Post]
    Long time lurker here. Too all you valued posters who have a hard time believing others posters claim about bbfs, age and physical appearance matters.

    Also if you could not go out and pick up attractive women in your home country then most likely the women in sea are not swooning over you also.

    If you can not go to a club and not embarrass yourself on the dance floor then what do you think some 18-25 yr old would see in you? Besides your wallet of course.

    Long story short. Some guys have no problems getting the extras because the girls would actually fuck them for free. Not taking shots at anyone, just trying to point out the obvious!
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem.

    Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.

  11. #48425
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Oh no, not even close.

    The crown for king or best on ISG would have to go to the long term, highly respected posters here who report getting bareback as the norm without discussion or objection from any girl they've spied, liked and taken, including the top best lookers from the top go-go bars, any night of the week, whenever they want and have never in many years paid one more than 1,000 - 1,100 baht for Long Time and whose claims are then confirmed by eye witness testimony from other long term, well respected posters here............
    That's why I said from all reports.

  12. #48424
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    Sorry guys, hate to bust up this mutual admiration thing you got going between yourselves but I'm the no 1 monger as proven by a recent poll of some 1500 working girls in Lower Sukhumvit (soi to soi 39). I came out on top (pardon the pun) in all categories, looks, personality, performance, , generosity, want to see again, and where to get the best noodles. Unfortunately but understandably for national security reasons the poll cannot be made public. Incidentally ET you came 4th some problem I believe with requiring specialized services and the Marquis didn't make the top ten.
    No, Franciscass, you forgot this election is decided by the Electoral College on a bar by bar basis. The popular vote is interesting. You can tell your grandkids about it. But that isn't how you win the crown around here.

    😉

  13. #48423
    Quote Originally Posted by DazeUp  [View Original Post]
    Thanks BB, but what I can't rap my head around is why someone would keep doing that. I can only reach the conclusion that not so innocent objectives may be behind it. I'm glad other punters can see through it though it is a little over the top.
    To me, it is the substance of what someone posts, the topic, the observations, conclusions, debatable points and so on that matters and what it is about those things that inspires me to respond or not.

    I really couldn't care less if all ten of my previous replies were to the same member hiding behind different identities and ISG accounts and that old lady has not left her Des Moines, Iowa basement since 1965 if what she posted is worth considering and responding to based on my experiences and observations as well.

    For example, I assume we are all talking about a particular member who claims to get bareback from every Thai P4P girl he approaches by either lying to her about his intense feelings of love for her, hinting he will take care of her and her family for a long time, dangling a sizable tip in front of her and so on. No doubt his style of posting seems for all the world to be comically fake, a made up persona to keep us from figuring out who he or she really is on the board.

    But the thing is the methods of manipulation he delights in describing and reporting ARE KNOWN to work on a huge percentage of P4P girls who might not otherwise agree so readily to bareback. At least, according to what I have heard from dozens of punters who apply those methods.

    Therefore, what that member posts is valid and worth responding to imo even if he is actually a 90 year old lady who has never been here but who now believes in her heart that you really do pronounce the name of the country "Thigh-land."

  14. #48422
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    I thought I was the best monger in BKK but that title goes to ET but he lives there and spends his thb more freely than this monger.
    Sorry guys, hate to bust up this mutual admiration thing you got going between yourselves but I'm the no 1 monger as proven by a recent poll of some 1500 working girls in Lower Sukhumvit (soi to soi 39). I came out on top (pardon the pun) in all categories, looks, personality, performance, , generosity, want to see again, and where to get the best noodles. Unfortunately but understandably for national security reasons the poll cannot be made public. Incidentally ET you came 4th some problem I believe with requiring specialized services and the Marquis didn't make the top ten.

  15. #48421
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully you have caught on that the guy who keeps saying he gets BBFS from 90% of the girls in Thailand and SE Asia is trolling.
    Thanks BB, but what I can't rap my head around is why someone would keep doing that. I can only reach the conclusion that not so innocent objectives may be behind it. I'm glad other punters can see through it though it is a little over the top.

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