Medellin Reports

[Elvis 2008]

Hey, thanks for the post. Very entertaining text. Just wondering what will happen if 1 of these girls finds out her pictures are being posted online? What if she retaliates? What if she gets violent?

Good for you Frank. You seemed to get the sugar baby concept.

Kiara was using seeking.com as a prostitution site. She is a working girl who happens to be a 10 I wanted to bang. She was not good enough in the sack for me to see again, and I do not care about posting her pictures because I am never going to see her again.

Stefany is a much different case. She has not been with a guy other than me in the P4P world and I think that she has seen 3 guys in her lifetime. She is a college student that has been cooped up in Barranquilla going to school with strict parents who monitor her every move.

I did not finish up what happened with her. She texted me the next day wanting to get together. I said I might be able to get together with her late like around 10, and she countered that she wanted to meet for dinner at 5. She had asked me before if I was seeing other women, and I wanted to go bare with her, so I lied and told her no. She seemed not to believe me and asked for 300,000 COP more. I asked if she was going to go bare like she said. She said that she was not sure. I said that she seemed to be more interested in my money than keeping her word and pleasing me. She said I cared more about sex than her. I did not respond and have not spoken to her since.

This is what happens when a sweet innocent one gets her around her more worldly cousin. LOL. She will hang with her cousin convinced there is better out there, find out there is not, and text me and want to see me again. I am not interested. She had her chance and she blew it. I liked her look, her voice and her passion but I thought she would be more interested in pleasing me. I have no use for a woman who weasels out of her word and uses emotion as an excuse. As you will see, Frank, I could have gotten what I wanted eventually but she was not special enough for me to correct her or to wait on her.

As for women retaliating, that is the thought of someone stuck in the sex prison who needs to go to Colombia.

Unless the girl is some sort of gem that cannot be replaced and that inspires a guy to pay more then 400,000 or 300,000 per meeting is okay. For the 1st meeting 500,000 is okay but then the price should go down closer to 300,000 or 400,000. This is a lot of money in MED. Let them go. If they want to charge rates from other continents.

Frank, she was a friend who had a need not a hooker I paid a price to. I cannot recall how many times I have told guys with SA / seeking who ask how much for a girl, "How about you start at zero and see how it goes?" If I told Stefany I was short of cash and would give her money later, I could have given her nothing and gotten away with it because I had supported her through the quarantine. I had given her grocery money so she and her family could eat, and I would do it again. The 500,000 COP was not a price but a gift.

Except for Kiara, there was no negotiating "price" or talk of money with ANY of the women I saw. If I gave them money, I put whatever I wanted to in the woman's purse when I was done. The most money I spent on anyone was on Jessica, and I did not give her a penny in cash. I bought her a swimsuit because I wanted to hang out by the pool with her and I bought medication for her and her mother.

All I'm saying guys, it doesn't pay off to act rich and throw money around. I think the girls will appreciate more down to earth humble Generous type of man. It's probably better to say I'm going to pay this amount so you can be happy and have fun and get to work but please don't think I have all this money that I can just throw around.

You guys keep thinking in absolute terms. It depends on what it is for. You pay the medical bill for a girl's mother you are a hero. You spend $1000 for a bottle of vodka at a club to show off you are "rich", you look like a doofus.

On top of it, there is always something that impresses me. When I am doing well, I will ask a few of my women, "Are things going good? Do you need some help (as in money)?" Three of the women in my reports (Angel, the Queen, and Stacy) have said we do not need any money. That is one way that you know that they are not working girls.

They are tons of women out there that want to fuck guys for help once in a while and do not want to look like or feel like working girl. And even some if not most of them are really not interested in sinking their hooks into guys for child support or marriage. Especially in times like this, they just need some help, and those are the women I am after.

[Kafka]

Get your story straight-- you already said she did CIM the night before. So why the need to remind her unlike the previous night .. ?

I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to. I got close to mounting her and she cried like a baby, "I am scared" Oh boy, here we go again I thought. I tried to explain things to her about safety and condoms but I got nowhere. I grabbed a condom and finished off inside her. We agreed to have lunch with her cousin, and I agreed to pay for some shopping. Stefany's cousin spoke English and had an American boyfriend, and I winced upon learning that. Stefany had stayed the night and asked for 500,000 COP which really is not that excessive given the exchange rate. The problem is that meeting her cousin had led to a sea change in attitude. I said goodbye to Stefany and told her that I might see her the following night because I had business plans, the business being meeting other women, and she seemed sad to see me go.

[Gringo Trooper]

Most of my girls and not sex workers and I have never been refused a pussy foto. Now, if you are talking about a photo that shows the face and pussy at the same time, that is puta material. But pussy photos are like greeting cards to Colombian chicas jajaja.

I was actually checking out some of the talent you had posted in the past. Well done man, they all looked great.

In Colombia, I pretty much stopped hunting for non-pros, ever since I got into the P4P game.

It's a double edged sword, in my experience, because I definitely miss the chase and the pursuit. And I miss having the drive to pick up non-pros in the states and abroad.

[Kafka]

A newbie would give you a price a real pro will take you for everything you have.

Each girls going rate is different. They will try to get as much as they can out of you. You need to negotiate. One girl I was chatting with started out at 350 k, she quickly dropped down to 150 k. I thought more about and was a bit pissed that she started out at 350. I would have more respect for her if she stuck to her initial price. At least then I know she wasn't trying to swindle me at first.

These are the pics she sent me. Is that worth 150? Depends on you and the girl and the market. If you are really finding 10's, 400 k doesn't sound like that much, but I suspect what's happening with most guys is that they don't know the market down here and they're really paying 350 k for 6's.

To sum it all up, there are sooooo many girls on facebook. Its really not hard. I've had 100 percent success rate asking girls if they will fuck for money on facebook. Without much effort I've gotten most of the offers down to 150 k, but I've actually been too busy with other avenues to actually take a girl up on an offer.

There is 1 facebook girl, who has really caught my eye. I've been putting a little extra effort with her. She hasnn't mentioned pricing yet. So maybe she's a newbie. We shall hopefully see soon.

[Mr Enternational]

So I change hotels and go to the Medellin Marriott. It is really nice. Gym and pool are open and are fabulous. I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?

I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, .

I am laughing my ass off right now. Mfs want to call themselves putting pussy on retainer by being a WUT (Western Union Trick). As many examples as there are (some dudes are even falling for the same shit multiple times!) and mfs still do not learn. Pay as you go: C.O.D.

As soon as this pandemic shit hit and guys were talking about sending money, I said you better keep your shit in your pocket. You do not know if you will end up needing it with the upcoming events and you do not know if you will ever see that chick again. But of course everybody knows what they are doing with their money and it is theirs to do as they see fit.

Yet 9 months later and some countries are still closed so it is impossible to see the girl and in other countries that have opened the girls that you sent all the money to is refusing to see you. I can't stop laughing about this shit. I told you, I told you!

[Member #4665]

Reprisal from what or who? I don't get it. Its your own fault if you overpay. 90 percent of the time they will never see you again. They will try to get as much money as they can from you and they are not going to cry about it. Maybe laugh, but not cry.

Well 1 girl said to me I don't like to take more money than the standard price because it's their money. And she had this face like she just didn't want to mess with people. She was talking to me about what she does when guys give her more money than she wants. I think she just didn't want to do something wrong. I don't know anymore I would have to ask her to explain further. Another girl I gave her 500 she gave me 200 back and told me It's only 300. She was genuinely honest and for that reason alone she got a few more Gifts. I didn't go to another girl. I have to thank her by staying with her. The 3rd girl gave me 40 back and told me the tip wasn't necessary.

Yeah there's probably a all sorts of Girls that keep the extra money. I guess I was lucky. But sometimes honesty is sexy.

[Kazeu]

Hey bro I feel your pain. It's natural, everybody gets tense when we talk about money. However, imagine a Man from Alabama spent 800,000 for 3 hours At seeking arrangement. So the forum members tell him hey good for you you had a good time but we just want to let you know politely that you could get 6 to 8 hours with 800,000 split into 2 dates. So the man from Alabama tells us thanks for letting me know I'll do it next time. In this way a healthy conversation about pricing is beneficial to everyone. Also a lot of girls do not want to overcharge the customer for fear of reprisal. I have Personally heard them say this.

Reprisal from what or who? I don't get it. Its your own fault if you overpay. 90 percent of the time they will never see you again. They will try to get as much money as they can from you and they are not going to cry about it. Maybe laugh, but not cry.

[Kazeu]

Well I think what was mentioned was 300,000 through 500,000 for a 3 hour date on seeking With 1 of the top girls.

If you got a 3 hour date with a top girl on seeking for 200,000 please tell us about it. Or, What exactly are you talking about? I think that 200,000 could work with some of the girls but Would it work with the top girls?

Some of the girls on seeking don't even work in the economy massage parlors where the girls are more affordable. And then again Some of the girls on seeking look like they couldn't even get a date for free These girls may actually have to pay a guy.

Also how much is the going range for Facebook girls ? Because I think some guys mentioned 150,000 maybe someone said 200,000.
Also there are some escort ads with pretty women that say 120 for one hour 240 for 2 hours.

Each girls going rate is different. They will try to get as much as they can out of you. You need to negotiate. One girl I was chatting with started out at 350 k, she quickly dropped down to 150 k. I thought more about and was a bit pissed that she started out at 350. I would have more respect for her if she stuck to her initial price. At least then I know she wasn't trying to swindle me at first.

These are the pics she sent me. Is that worth 150? Depends on you and the girl and the market. If you are really finding 10's, 400 k doesn't sound like that much, but I suspect what's happening with most guys is that they don't know the market down here and they're really paying 350 k for 6's.

To sum it all up, there are sooooo many girls on facebook. Its really not hard. I've had 100 percent success rate asking girls if they will fuck for money on facebook. Without much effort I've gotten most of the offers down to 150 k, but I've actually been too busy with other avenues to actually take a girl up on an offer.

There is 1 facebook girl, who has really caught my eye. I've been putting a little extra effort with her. She hasnn't mentioned pricing yet. So maybe she's a newbie. We shall hopefully see soon.

[Member #4665]

Paying more than 200 K absolute top is a disgrace. And you're polluting the playing field for everybody else. Knock it off please.

Well I think what was mentioned was 300,000 through 500,000 for a 3 hour date on seeking With 1 of the top girls.

If you got a 3 hour date with a top girl on seeking for 200,000 please tell us about it. Or, What exactly are you talking about? I think that 200,000 could work with some of the girls but Would it work with the top girls?

Some of the girls on seeking don't even work in the economy massage parlors where the girls are more affordable. And then again Some of the girls on seeking look like they couldn't even get a date for free These girls may actually have to pay a guy.

Also how much is the going range for Facebook girls ? Because I think some guys mentioned 150,000 maybe someone said 200,000.
Also there are some escort ads with pretty women that say 120 for one hour 240 for 2 hours.

[Member #4665]

An exception would be to make it clear at the time of the 500,000 deal that you will pay that one time only and from here on out you will only pay 300,000.

Yes that's right. The higher price is for the 1st day only. Make that clear from the start. So these prices are for seeking. 3 hours for 300,000 seems to be part of the standard. And yes, the standard can vary and has a range. The problem is she may have 2 or 3 other guys offering her 300,000. So if this is the case and may be necessary for the 1st date to be higher that way the guy can Lure her in. Then for the 2nd and 3rd date the girl may agree to a lower price because she already knows the guy is trustworthy, he has a nice place, it safe, and he's not going to try to fuk her ass for 180 minutes like some other idiot wanted to.

Of course there is no need to pay 500,000 for the 1st date all the time. If the guy is not choosy about finding a specific girl he can just go for another Girl that doesn't have simultaneous offers and will gladly accept 300,000. It depends, do you have other alternatives?

[Member #4665]

We really don't need the price police looking over our shoulders. We are grown up and we can read, I. E. RTFF. Please knock it off.

This is a true market place, you are welcome to offer as much, or as little, as you wish, Assuming you find takers.

Hey bro I feel your pain. It's natural, everybody gets tense when we talk about money. However, imagine a Man from Alabama spent 800,000 for 3 hours At seeking arrangement. So the forum members tell him hey good for you you had a good time but we just want to let you know politely that you could get 6 to 8 hours with 800,000 split into 2 dates. So the man from Alabama tells us thanks for letting me know I'll do it next time. In this way a healthy conversation about pricing is beneficial to everyone. Also a lot of girls do not want to overcharge the customer for fear of reprisal. I have Personally heard them say this.

In the science of negotiation. It is established that the prices need to be public knowledge to keep the market fair. If nobody could disclose their income then the employers would have an advantage when negotiating salaries. That is why there are entire website devoted to making salaries public and even in Google employees can post their income in public bulletin within the company ground.

Anyone can pay more if They want to. But it may be beneficial to establish the surplus as a tip or a gift from a friend who appreciates the girl. She should be thankful. If The guy goes out and pays more she may think He is a sucker instead of a generous man Giving a tip.

So in summary we can all benefit from a healthy conversation about money. Not talking about it would be a mistake.

[Osteoknot]

Very unlikely a non / puta would give you a photo of her pussy. Yeah, that's a beautiful vagina.

Most of my girls and not sex workers and I have never been refused a pussy foto. Now, if you are talking about a photo that shows the face and pussy at the same time, that is puta material. But pussy photos are like greeting cards to Colombian chicas jajaja.

[Osteoknot]

I know a 3 people and a family of 5 who had covid earlier in the year and are not showing any detectable antibodies now in October. So about 4-5 months later.

All 5 people in one family got Covid? And why were they all re tested for antibodies? And why would you know 8 people who have been retested for antibodies? Do you work at a lab or something?

You missing a couple of major points. Don't worry, you are not alone and a lot of the so-called experts don't get it, either. The repeat lab tests for antibodies are meaningless if they don't predict reinfection. I don't use lab tests for evidence of reinfection, I use the number of sick people who got reinfected, which would be in the millions if people were not immune from prior coronavirus infection. That is the only true measure. Did any of the 8 people you claim (an extraordinary number for one person to know about, BTW) get sick again with Covid? Even if you say yes after the fact, the epidemiology proves, up to this point in time, that immunity is conferred by primary infection. Not lab tests, not pundits, not politicos, not physicians, etc. Look for outcomes and not processes. I am not arguing the point to prove I am correct, even though I am. I simply don't want people to have unwarranted fears. If your statements are accurate and I have my doubts, then the only thing you may have proved is retesting for antibodies does not predict lack of immunity. This is consistent with how a body becomes immune and reveals your basic lack of understanding of medical physiology. You do not need to have measurable antibodies to be immune. The be cells of your humoral immune system retain MEMORY on how to remanufacture antibodies if reexposed, is how it usually works. This mechanism remains to be proven with Covid, but is probably true.

If and when the immunity wears off, the epidemiological evidence will be obvious, interconvertible, overwhelming, and undeniable. Until then, chillax.

[Paulie97]

We really don't need the price police looking over our shoulders. We are grown up and we can read, I. E. RTFF. Please knock it off.

This is a true market place, you are welcome to offer as much, or as little, as you wish, Assuming you find takers.

This is an open forum and he can give his opinion about prices if he likes. He can also give his opinions about sending girls money. Actually the post from Elvis 2008 is a cautionary tale. He reported sending girls all total 1500 a month for a number of months while he was waiting to get in Colombia. He arrives and one essentially tells me that he wasn't sending enough thus she owes him nothing. The next one rushed him, wouldn't kiss him, plus overcharged him. 100 dollars for two hours, especially in the present market is too much, even though she faked an orgasm for him. 200 mil pesos is plenty. Yes he posted photos, and independents just as hot or hotter can be had for 150 to 200 mil, easy. And if you go into the Centro casas and strip clubs and are patient, you can pluck out equal quality for 40 to 100 mil or 12 to 30 dollars, though for a briefer encounter. That's the way it is, and the membership here deserves to hear this information, even if angers someone like yourself.

[Lefeu]

I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to...

Thanks for taking the time to post this intel buddy. Excellent report!