Medellin Reports

[Kazeu]

I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?

Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?

Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.

[Member #4665]

- From life experience I think it's true to say most professional athletes will fail. Just like people in the music industry say you can be a great musician and they have made great music but they never received monetary compensation.

-So sure dream big, go play sports, try to make a record, but also focus on the jobs that you can take in that industry that can sustain your lifetime for example can you be a coach and assistant can you get involved in the business of sport?

The 1st lesson in business is 90% of all startups fail. Learn this fact in a book or university. Therefore it could be fair to say without researching that perhaps only 10% of WebCam girls will make a meaningful income, and it's probably even less because that is usually how life is.

So to say WebCam girls will make Middle-class income buy houses and pay for university sound Unlikely. Some advice for a WebCam girl would be find the a profession with opportunities for growth where you can work and grind it out for lifetime. And then 3 nights a week try to get the web cam thing going, but you should know that statistically speaking you probably won't make more than a little bit for beer money.

[ColombiaLover]

I agree that it is better to try her out first. That said, I'm not a big TLN guy. I like my sleep. And when I do TLN, I do it with my chicas who are not being paid. If you have the ability to fuck multiple times during the night, then this may make sense for you. Bang her before you go to sleep, during the night, and first thing in the morning. But be clear she's up for that. And that she knows you might wake her up in the middle of the night for sex. Some girls think TLN is once before bed and once in the morning.

For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.

If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.

[Combo]

I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?

For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.

If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.

[Gringo Trooper]

I've seen younger Colombian guys wearing shorts. Not often. But someone 45 or older? Very rare, except for gringos.

I love how far down the rabbit hole we have all gone regarding shorts.

I'm going to buy a new pair of shorts, specially to wear for my trip to MDE in a couple months. I will wear them the entire trip, except when going to nightclubs (as they will likely require pants for admittance).

[Forever18]

Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.

I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?

[Osteoknot]

Nov 2018 I went to Moscow for my bday, I had never tried SA before, well Moscow is a very tough town to monger, so I thought I would try SA within 1-2 hours a few girls including an African sent me messages.

I asked how much most said either $1500 or $2000 for 2 hrs, I laughed and responded OK, 2000 or 1500 rubles, they immediately blocked me, 2 or 3 hrs later I was blocked from SA.

Someone must of reported me, and SA kicked me off and gave me a refund.

I always have this image that Russian cam girls are sex slaves to the Russian Mafia. When a cam model she says she is from Moscow or the Ukraine (whether or not she is telling the truth, who knows) I always get the feeling there is big, burly, Russian Mafia guy in the Room hovering nearby, ready to hit her with a rubber hose, even typing the answers for her. When her hands don't move near a keyboard but there are replies on the screen, someone is typing, jaja. Could be my mind playing tricks because I axed a Russian girl one time who was in the Room with her and she flashed the camera around the entire room, and she was alone, jajaja.

[JjBee62]

Don't take offense. He just gets overly dramatic about anything he can. Its just his style. The best thing about the board is that you can see how other people monger and do their thing. Whether or not you follow their lead is up to you.

Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.

The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.

On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.

Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.

Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.

Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?

Last year in Medellin, I stayed in a great 3 bedroom apartment, 10 days, for free. What does that tell you about my self-esteem? A month ago I sent a girl $20 for 3 minutes of badly lit video shot with a cheap phone. 5 minute ago A much better looking girl sent me 3 minutes of video, with excellent lighting, shot with her iPhone X, completely free. Did my self-esteem change?

If the logic confuses you, your local university offers courses.

[JjBee62]

I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.

Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).

So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.

So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".

I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- "Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"

When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.

I've seen younger Colombian guys wearing shorts. Not often. But someone 45 or older? Very rare, except for gringos.

[JjBee62]

You think you are so smart Mr. E but you do not even get the concept of investing in women. You think spending money on women is purely a cost, and the reality is that I am getting way better than you and for waaaay cheaper. The funny part is I think there is a part of you that knows it too.

There's no need to cover all the rest. Here's my question for you and everyone else:

How is what you are getting better than what anyone else is getting?

This applies to anything in life, not just pussy. You can be eating at a 3 star Michelin restaurant, a meal in which the chef outdid himself. I could be sitting at home eating ribs cooked by my brother, who thinks Michelin makes tires. Which one of us enjoyed our experience more?

Read the forum. You have guys talking about how great their experiences were, with all different types of girls in different types of situations. Which one is best? Guys are staying at all types of places, from $15 a night to $500 a night and beyond. Guys are riding around in limos and guys are riding the metro. How do you compare your experience to another's experience?

The honest answer is, you can't. I can't. Nobody can.

The experiences you are having are your experiences. They are not better than anyone else's experiences. The girls you are fucking are the girls you are fucking. They are not better than the girls anyone else is fucking.

The food you're eating, bed you sleep in, toilet paper you use can't be compared to how they make anyone else's ass feel.

[JjBee62]

A month ago a want to be WebCam girl message my friend. He went to her Virtual room that shee was just starting out and she had a huge sign saying it was Her birthday and was asking viewers for money and gifts. Her birthday. Suuure. A month later she message my friend again she Explained at the beginning of the month she didn't have Internet so she stayed Somewhere That provided her with Internet and now she owed the tenant rent money. Of course she made nothing from her WebCam photos nor videos. Not even enough to pay thee rent. She kept telling myFriend that she was going to resort to escorting to pay her rent and Internet bill.

SoJudging by this story I suppose practically all web cam girls are broke and just like this online YouTube video business only a very few percentage of performers are actually making excessive amounts of money and then the next percentage is living below the poverty line and after that practically nobody makes anything. This web cam stuff is just the side hustle at least for most girls. If theey get lucky maybe they make some beer money.

Concerning the other post talking about leftover food at restaurants. I never really understood that because I always take all my leftover food in the restaurant home and Eat it later the same day or the following day. I just can't understand why anybody would leave food on the plate. Maybe to help out the homeboys opening the bags at the end of the day?

That's a fairly small sample size to draw conclusions from. I remember meeting a guy 30 years ago, he had just signed up to play minor league baseball (brother of a friend's wife). 6 months later he was asking his brother-in-law to help get him a job as a carpenter. Therefore nobody ever makes money playing professional baseball.

Just like most things, most webcam models fail. They fail because there are a bunch of guys who think they can put a girl on webcam and she'll make lots of money for them. It takes 6 to 8 weeks of 40 hour weeks before a model starts making any money. I can't guess at the number of women I've told this to. Every one, after 3 days wants to quit.

If they stick it out for 8 weeks, 75% will eventually be earning at least a middle class income working 30 hours weekly or less.

I was just chatting with my old roommate yesterday. She's been on webcam for 4 years. She now lives in a first world country, is working on her second advanced degree and is planning on buying herself an apartment back in Colombia next year. She will be paying cash. She travels when and where she wants, has a lot of money saved and is easily making a 6 figure US income.

I know of a few hookers who have been successful on webcam, but most lack the work ethic. I also know a few who were making a good living on webcam who gave it up and went back to hooking.

[JjBee62]

That's too simplistic a view of the market. The price isn't controlled entirely entirely by people buying pics and videos. But to say that it doesn't have any effect is not very smart. You can have the prices stay the same but still have an upward pressure on prices due to other factors pushing prices down. You can also have prices stay the same but the product shifts underneath. Meaning sure you can find girls for 150 k and 200 k but they're not the same caliber of girls that used to be available at that price.

If you're buying pics and videos off the internet and are happy with it that's great, but it definitely does affect prices.

Those were the days, less gringos in parque lleras but everything overall more expensive. I'm not sure how long 3800 is going to last, but lets enjoy it while it does..

Sure, there's going to be a effect on the market, but it's far from significant. For every girl I see selling pics and videos, I see a girl who now has an online store. They're selling everything from ice cream to butt plugs. I know one, who I met through another prepago, who was selling videos. She got into the habit of making surprise video calls to me whenever her boyfriend was out of the house. I couldn't even message her because he would get violent if he was around. She would just occasionally message me and ask for $10-$20 for the 5 or 6 video calls she had already made.

Finally she broke up with him and got her own place. She now has a drink cart she runs in the park in Bello at night, plus an online store selling lingerie, plus an online store selling sex toys and she's still selling her pussy and probably videos as well. Once she started asking me for advice on various things, she stopped asking for money, but she still sends little video clips or hits me with a video call.

Maybe her price has gone up. I haven't asked. But I bet I will be in for 200k or less when I hit town.

If you're into that sort of thing, she's one of the few younger chicas I've seen with a full Bush. Big tits, pretty face. If you're in town and interested I will pass along her contact info. Better get her before I get there, because I will have her shave that Bush off.

[Forever18]

How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience..

I want to know too. I have only used SA at the moment.

[Member #4665]

Did you see the news story of Jenni Lee The famous porn star living homeless in Las Vegas. It's true a lot of people just don't have the discipline to save money.

Way up north My friend has an escort friend girl that's been working for years and people think these girls are loaded. After getting to know her Very well one day she revealed she had practically no savings. No security, no other job no nothing.Like a Rolling Stone.

nearly 70 percent of Americans have less than $1,000 stashed away. this is why some girls upcharge foreigner s?

[Blakman]

Dearly beloved mongers we are gathered here to bid farewell to the passing of these three subjects. We promise to move on from them and continue on with our lives. AMEN!

I see people making this same (or closely related) argument all the time. Let's think this through a little, shall we?

Girl is selling pics and videos to scare up a little money. Does this mean that she thinks to herself. HEY self! If I can sell the suckers some pics and videos I don't need to sell my holy vag, or better yet, I can sell it for more.

Maybe you think that way but you're dealing with an immature girl who doesn't think anything like the way you do.

Let me explain. Young little paisa makes a few pesos selling the pics and vids. She doesn't put that money in a bank account. Most banks won't let her open an account because she doesn't have a job. So what does she do? She spends that money. She buys a shirt she likes, or another pair of sneakers or a flashy purse but she spends it. Tomorrow she looks in her barren wallet and it all starts again. She's going to sell what every can be sold to make some more money. Her holy vag is not exempt because of yesterday's pic and vid sale.

We often see the typical thesis. Don't overpay you'll ruin it for all of us. Seriously? What a joke. Let's see how it plays out for our young paisa. She gets a call after watching tele-novelas all day. Guy offers her 150 mil + taxi and she's en route after a little clean up and stuff. She gets there does her thing takes the money and goes home. First thing she stops at her store and gets a new pair of shoes she really wants and then goes home and gives mom 20 mil for looking after her little kid. She calls up her best amiga and tells her she had a good score and they go out drinking. Maybe some guys buy them drinks but most likely not because local men are as cheap as a lot of the mongerers on here. So a little tipsy she finally goes home. She wakes up and looks in her wallet and there it is 12 mil and 300 pesos. And it starts all over again just like yesterday. Oh and if our visiting extranjero paid her 250 mil + taxi? She just bought the shoes and a pair of designer pants she wants, gives her mother 30 mil for baby sitting and household expenses and invites her best 2 amigas to go out dancing and drinking. Same result in the morning 12 mil 300 pesos. Did the guy who overpaid ruin the market? I don't think so.

Are all girls like this? Maybe not all but certainly most. BTW she doesn't write any notes on the guys she sees so she won't remember what you paid her but she will remember the guys who give her extra money. She likes them. So do I f* it up for you? Maybe, the next time you make a date and she doesn't show or cancels, it might be because someone else offered her a little more and she canceled you to be with him. Happens all the time.

I'm not saying to throw your money around (that can cause you problems in a different direction) but the premise that it screws up the marketplace is laughable.

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