Medellin Reports

[Villainy]

I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.

Well you learned an important lesson. TLN (Toda la noche) can be fun but can be an ultimately boring encounter. You don't speak Spanish, you don't have a friendship with the girl, what you effectively did was pay for two single sessions with the girl (the evening and the morning) and you got to feel her warm little body in your bed during the night. You certainly aren't out anything. A single session 150 + taxis vs 300 + taxis so you spent an extra 40 bucks at the current exchange rates and you learned that TLN isn't really for you.

I wish all my learning experiences in life had only cost me 40 dollars.

[JjBee62]

Certain things are objectively better than others. Charmin ultra soft is better than dollar store single ply. A steak at Morton's is better than Denny's. 15 hours in first class is better than 15 hours in coach. JW Marriott is better than Motel 3. Winter in Hawaii is better than winter in the Gulag in Siberia. Field passes to a football game are better than watching on a 19" black and white tv. Going to prom in a limo is better than going to prom with your date's dad as your driver and chaperone. Fucking a nympho 10 is better than fucking a 0. Fucking a girl is better than getting fucked by a guy (this one may be subjective).

But how happy each person wants to be is up to them. Would you be happier in coach or first class? Probably first class but it's your choice whether to be happy or happier or happiest. It's like the survey you get after eating or staying somewhere. Were you happy with your visit? What could we have done to improve your visit? Your experience could have been better but that doesn't mean you weren't already happy.

Only 1 thing you listed is objective, except you introduced a false equivalence. A vacation is objectively better than a prison sentence, but a vacation in Hawaii is not equivalent to a prison sentence in Siberia.

A steak at Morton's isn't better to a vegan. First class isn't better to someone who values price over comfort. The rating of 0 to 10 is subjective. Sex with a Nympho is nor objectively better. Not when, after barebacking her she tells you she barebacked 3 strangers today. And you went down on her.

However, you missed the point. How do you compare subjective experiences between 2 people? Did you enjoy your steak at Morton's more than the vegan enjoyed her favorite meal at her favorite restaurant?

[JjBee62]

- From life experience I think it's true to say most professional athletes will fail. Just like people in the music industry say you can be a great musician and they have made great music but they never received monetary compensation.

-So sure dream big, go play sports, try to make a record, but also focus on the jobs that you can take in that industry that can sustain your lifetime for example can you be a coach and assistant can you get involved in the business of sport?

The 1st lesson in business is 90% of all startups fail. Learn this fact in a book or university. Therefore it could be fair to say without researching that perhaps only 10% of WebCam girls will make a meaningful income, and it's probably even less because that is usually how life is.

So to say WebCam girls will make Middle-class income buy houses and pay for university sound Unlikely. Some advice for a WebCam girl would be find the a profession with opportunities for growth where you can work and grind it out for lifetime. And then 3 nights a week try to get the web cam thing going, but you should know that statistically speaking you probably won't make more than a little bit for beer money.

I understand it seems that way to you, and there is much truth in what you say. However, there are significant differences.

Startup businesses fail by the quarter: 3, 6, 9 or 12 months and they close the doors. In many cases it's because they expected quicker success. If they had planned and budgeted to lose money for 12-18 months, many failures would succeed.

Webcam models tend to walk away within the first 30 days, because they expect immediate success. I can't think of any model who stuck it out for 8 weeks who failed to earn at least $50 per day, which is a comfortable living in Colombia.

I say that webcam models can do these things, because I know several who have. It's what I did for a year in Medellin, worked with webcam models. I don't say this stuff because I have 1 friend who once talked to a webcam model.

One model was renting 3, 3 bedroom apartments in Poblado. One up by El Tesoro, where she lived, 1 just north of Envigado where my roommate and I lived, (rent free) and 1 at Ciudad del Rio, which was used as a studio. Combined rent and utilities over 7 million COP monthly. She paid for this from her income and her share of my roommate's earnings. At the time my roommate was saving at least 4 million COP each month.

Will everyone reach that level? Of course not, but an income of 2-3 million COP is within reach of almost every one who sticks it out.

[JjBee62]

I always have this image that Russian cam girls are sex slaves to the Russian Mafia. When a cam model she says she is from Moscow or the Ukraine (whether or not she is telling the truth, who knows) I always get the feeling there is big, burly, Russian Mafia guy in the Room hovering nearby, ready to hit her with a rubber hose, even typing the answers for her. When her hands don't move near a keyboard but there are replies on the screen, someone is typing, jaja. Could be my mind playing tricks because I axed a Russian girl one time who was in the Room with her and she flashed the camera around the entire room, and she was alone, jajaja.

The mafia guy is only in the room virtually. He uses a back office program to view and control her computer.

[JjBee62]

Did you see the news story of Jenni Lee The famous porn star living homeless in Las Vegas. It's true a lot of people just don't have the discipline to save money.

Way up north My friend has an escort friend girl that's been working for years and people think these girls are loaded. After getting to know her Very well one day she revealed she had practically no savings. No security, no other job no nothing.Like a Rolling Stone.

nearly 70 percent of Americans have less than $1,000 stashed away. this is why some girls upcharge foreigner s?

It's a lifestyle issue. Get to know some strippers. Even though a decent stripper can pull $3 k per week, most are always broke. As soon as one has a good night she goes out and blows it. Webcam, stripping, hooking, selling videos (RIP), are all instant gratification jobs.

[JjBee62]

How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience..

Go to the General thread search for "Facebook" and look for a post by me. I explain the process fully.

[ILuvThePussy]

Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?

Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.

I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.

[Flak3]

There's no need to cover all the rest. Here's my question for you and everyone else:

How is what you are getting better than what anyone else is getting?

This applies to anything in life, not just pussy. You can be eating at a 3 star Michelin restaurant, a meal in which the chef outdid himself. I could be sitting at home eating ribs cooked by my brother, who thinks Michelin makes tires. Which one of us enjoyed our experience more?

Read the forum. You have guys talking about how great their experiences were, with all different types of girls in different types of situations. Which one is best? Guys are staying at all types of places, from $15 a night to $500 a night and beyond. Guys are riding around in limos and guys are riding the metro. How do you compare your experience to another's experience?

The honest answer is, you can't. I can't. Nobody can.

The experiences you are having are your experiences. They are not better than anyone else's experiences. The girls you are fucking are the girls you are fucking. They are not better than the girls anyone else is fucking.

The food you're eating, bed you sleep in, toilet paper you use can't be compared to how they make anyone else's ass feel.

Certain things are objectively better than others. Charmin ultra soft is better than dollar store single ply. A steak at Morton's is better than Denny's. 15 hours in first class is better than 15 hours in coach. JW Marriott is better than Motel 3. Winter in Hawaii is better than winter in the Gulag in Siberia. Field passes to a football game are better than watching on a 19" black and white tv. Going to prom in a limo is better than going to prom with your date's dad as your driver and chaperone. Fucking a nympho 10 is better than fucking a 0. Fucking a girl is better than getting fucked by a guy (this one may be subjective).

But how happy each person wants to be is up to them. Would you be happier in coach or first class? Probably first class but it's your choice whether to be happy or happier or happiest. It's like the survey you get after eating or staying somewhere. Were you happy with your visit? What could we have done to improve your visit? Your experience could have been better but that doesn't mean you weren't already happy.

[StefanKa]

Hello everyone,

Has anyone flown back to NYC from ME recently?

If so, have you been required to quarantine?

When I came back from Europe a month ago, that took my cell number and kept calling me from tracing corps, but I didn't answer, they just left messages that I should quarantine.

Peace out.

[Combo]

Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?

Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.

Not to mention, what if her pussy stinks? This happens now and then, no matter how beautiful or ugly the chica may be. Kazeu said it perfectly "Easier to extend a session that it is to cut a session short. ".

[Surfer500]

Don't do this it sounds dangerous. Only have an overnight with a girl that has a long thread of positive reviews from her clients. After reading her performance reviews you will feel she's an honest hard worker. What if she is a criminal and does something to you while you're sleeping.

What threads are you referring that has reviews of girls performance in Medellin, this is Colombia, and things are different here than you may be used to in other Countries.

[Surfer500]

I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?

Is it a good deal, where did you find this girl. Irrespective of whether you have any history with this girl, if she comes off the streets of El Centro then it's not a good deal.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.

The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.

On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.

Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.

Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.

Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?.

Your attempts at sophistry make me embarrassed for you, the way you buy photo and video, please tell me you aren't also one of those people that paid for an online from China?

[Kazeu]

Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.

Just wanted to add, that during negociations this same chica asked me if I would pay for her taxi. I asked where do you live and how much it would be. She told me she lived in Castilla and said it would be 20 k each way. I looked up Castilla in google maps and then sent her a screen shot of a Cabify quote saying it would be less than 9 k for a ride to castilla. I said I would give her 20 k taxi total. She said "Okay, when should I come over?

Keep in mind also that after the session finished I did indeed give her 20 k and also walked her to the metro. This taxi bullshit is just another way to get money out of you. LOL. Generally she was pretty cool and it was a good session. So I wasn't upset or anything. I found it funny more than anything.

[Kazeu]

How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience.

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No there is no group that you need to sign up for. What you need is an IN to the network. Like you said some of the girls have a private friend list but not all. But you don't just look at a girls friends. You can also look at a girls followers. Just keep going around until you find 1 person that has an open friend list. Once you have one person that lives in medellin with an open friend list you're in. It doesn't really have to be a girl. It can also be a guy. Make sure the person is listed as living in medellin. Then you go to his friend list and click "Current City", that gives you all of his friends that also live in medellin. Start adding all the slutty girls that you see in the list, but also keep a lookout for rando guys in the list that have open friend lists that you can come back to after you finish with the current list. Also keep a lookout for girls with open friends list. The important thing is that all these people are all in medellin. Eventually you'll have enough friends in the network that you'll start seeing some people with a decent amount of mutual friends. These are gold. Make sure you check if they have open friend lists. And repeat the same process over and over again until you have a decent amount of medellin chica friends. Eventually you can stop mining friend lists and just work through the people that facebook suggests you add.

One thing to keep in mind, you'll probably have a better rate of acceptance if you actually have a facebook profile with stuff in it. Pictures. Posts. Etc. I hate friend requests from people with rando images as their profile pics who haven't posted anything ever.

Good luck and have fun. Never give up! Never surrender!