Medellin Reports

[Zeos1]

If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.

LOL. You can go out after 6, and that's not what he's talking about. You won't necessarily get a chance to show them your pockets or have a discussion about what you have or don't have. That can be anywhere. And people get robbed and killed for nothing some of the time. It isn't the junkies you have to worry about, it's the criminals. And there are lots, and lots of guns too.

I saw a map once of the street gangs, and the higher level gangs that control the street gangs. For Medellin. There were hundreds of street level gangs, and a number of higher level organizations they may have to answer to. They don't generally want wars. That gets too much attention, as in the past with Escobar, etc. But one offs are not a problem. You don't want to be one of those. You tell someone to f off. Maybe they understand you maybe they don't. But they get the picture. But you do that to the wrong one. You're dead. They don't have any problem at all with that.

In a city where you can hire a hit man for much less than $100 US it's not all safe and secure.

[Incrociatore]

Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/

I read the article. But I also read this:

"Jeff is the founder and editor-in-chief of Medellin Guru. He first discovered Colombia back in 2006 and has traveled to all the major cities in Colombia. Jeff is fortunate to have lived over eight years in Medellín."

He has been robbed once in 8 years! I mean, statistically it's nothing really. A friend of mine in Turin has been robbed 3 times at the station by junkies using a syringe. 3 times in 2 years. Watching at the data the probability to get robbed in Laureles is really low. I'm sure it's much easier to get robbed en el centro at night. During the day there is so much police. I mean today I have seen at least 20 soldiers with automatic rifles.

And, look at him, he is a the perfect target. You can see he is a gringo from 1 km, and you know he will not do any resistance. Robberies happen all the time in all the big cities. You can't be safe in New York, London or Paris.

There were over 40 thousand robbery offences recorded by the Metropolitan Police in London in 2019/20, an increase of almost six thousand when compared with the previous year, and a peak for this type of offence in the provided time period. Did you read? 40 thousands. Yes, London is bit, but it's still much more than in Medellin with all the neighborhoods combined. In Laureles it happens not even 1. 5 times a day. Why it should be me? Most likely is going to be a monger from USA or Canada, with blue eyes, in his 60.

My point is: play smart. Leave the wallet at home, you don't need it. Leave the passport and any other ID at home. Keep your phone in the front pocket, and bring yourself the credit card only when you need it to get money from the ATM. Otherwise use Apple Pay or Google Pay, which here don't even know what is, but it works. Also, if you are going to el centro don't go with your phone, they are going to pickpocket you easily. Bring just the money for a fuck or two, and the taxi. If they rob you, you lose 30 dollars, which is not a big deal.

[Member #4665]

How dangerous is Medellin? I've been in many many countries but S. America seems a different beast! Is it possible to walk around during the day, maybe visit a casa, and have a 99% chance of getting home safe?

It depends. Most locals they say they Stay safe because they don't wander around streets where there are druggies and cheap hoes. Stay in a safe neighborhood. If you visit massage parlor take the taxi walk from the taxi into the Establishment call taxi exit establishment and jump in the taxi. Research on YouTube as there is a worldwide phenomenon where Criminals slip substance into thee mongers drink. So just be aware and don't let anyone do that. Don't walk around with expensive cell phone. Just use an 80 euro android. For those concerned about the escorts, try to find some escorts that ccome from a bettter background and already have a little bit of money.Find an establishment with A reputation or get some recommendations of girls from friend.

[Incrociatore]

I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.

You might get rejected. They don't know what a POCT is, and they aren't going to Google. Your test must be the PCR ones. And also it has to be not older than 96 hours. Also you don't want to explain what is a POCT, because probably you don't even know, and they don't care. Regulation says PCR, and PCR needs to be.

[Mojo Bandit]

If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.

Here are the official stats on robberies, a person is 3 times as likely to get robbed in El Centro as they are in Laureles or Poblado but that does not mean you are exempt in Laureles or Poblado it just means it is less likely to happen there. The most likely way is as described in this article and that has been described in posts here in this forum, It is by the passenger of a motorcycle. I think they actually have term for these guys in Colombia but I cannot remember what it is. Looking at just Laureles and Poblado the stats average out to be like 5 per day that means 15 per day in El centro on the average - so like Nounce said robbery can happen anywhere -
https://medellinguru.com/medellin-robbery/

According to this other article the motorcycle rider thing started as a means for hitman (a method that is still around) of the Escobar cartel (it also says that the person who thought of it was eventually assassinated in the same way) so that it would be easier to evade the police through traffic, but also robbers caught on to this method, In 2014 Medellin even passed an ordinance banning male passengers of certain age group on the back of motorcycles. "motorcycle assassinations decreased by 39 percent, Robberies of cars and of motorcycles by motorcycle riders each fell by nearly 30 percent. " I do not know if that law is still in effect.

https://www.insightcrime.org/news/br...engers-hitmen/

[Surfer500]

I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.

Excellent advice as in Southern California while researching places offering the PCR test, hidden in the fine print of one lab was what you described not being the true PCR test performed in a lab that Colombia is looking for. Found a place that if your tested by 8 AM in the morning they will have same day results and it's called the Molecular PCR Nasopharyngeal Swab at a cost of $275 USD for same day results.

[ColombiaLover]

I am traveling to Medellin on Wednesday. So I did not want to deal with the drama of having a COVID test that was sent out to a lab. Having to hope I get the results back in time. So I managed to find a CVS in Orlando (about 45 minutes away) that had the rapid molecular test. I called the COVID 19 hotline for CVS and they assumed me if is a PCR test, not an antigen test. So I went and got my test today and 15 minutes later I was told I was negative. However, when I looked at the results that were sent to me, it described a "MOLECULAR POCT" test. From my understanding, a PCR test is a molecular test. But since the results says "POCT" and not "PCR" I suspect that the test will not be accepted. So, I've made another appointment with CVS for the PCR test that goes to the lab and once again I'll be waiting to see if I get my results in time. Very frustrating. What I've found is that most of the folks who give these tests are not very knowledgeable (and the web pages do not always give you clear information). So you really have to pay attention. Ugh.

[Nounce]

If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.

Robbery can happen almost anywhere. I guess you are generalizing a specific case as the norm.

[Incrociatore]

I've walked all over La 70 and the surrounding streets at all hours. 3 times I saw potential problems, all involving the same guy, twice during the day. I had 3 guys attempt to rob me in El Centro, in the middle of a crowd in broad daylight. I saw 2 guys rob and beat a guy one night next to the Veracruz church.

No place is dangerous, until suddenly it is.

Going to walk around El Centro after midnight, with nothing to steal sounds like a good idea, if you're wanting to rate the Colombian healthcare system. You may need to rate it posthumously.

The flaw in your plan is the thieves don't know whether you have nothing to steal, or you're not giving them what they want. However, since you're obviously not a resident of El Centro, it seems unlikely they'll believe you have nothing. From about every report I've heard, including one from a girl I know in Milagro, when people refuse to give money, they get stabbed or shot.

As for the police, after about 9, they become scarce in El Centro.

Let us know how your experiment works out, or we can read about it elsewhere.

If you have nothing with you, you have nothing. They can search you. You give them what you have. 50k for example, without any resistance, you show your pockets are empty and it's over. If you go there with your phone and 1 million, then they will pretend your phone and 1 million, but if you have 20 k for the taxi, they will take what you have. Or you think they are gone to cut in half and search if you have some money in your belly? Yesterday I didn't have my phone with me, and I was there with almost no cash. I was there in the dark, from 6 to 8:30. No one touched me. I tell you more, I was feeling more secure than in the afternoon, because less people, greater distance, I was much more in control. One guy approached me, he followed me for a 10/20 seconds, till I said him to fuck off. I never let him closer than 2 meters from me. I doubt the junkies of el centro have guns. Cartel has guns, not the junkies in el centro. If they had one, they would have sold to buy drugs. The risk to get robbed is real, but who gives a fuck if they still me 50000 COP, I don't really mind. You all speak about Medellin like you can't go out after 6, which is bullshit.

[TresRios]

Simplier said than done given some of the Fayboo tales that other board members have posted.

I have had no problem building a list on FB. Just need to get the first few started, then the gates will open. They will be sending you friend requests.

I started a new FB account 3 days ago and have over 200 contacts.

Find the gringos with lists, or chicas that have a lot of likes / comments from gringos.

Super easy.

TR.

[Incrociatore]

Which post? That area is generally fine. I don't recall people saying it is dangerous to not go there.

If you do a search on the forum, you'll find the posts.

[JjBee62]

I met another young shy woman on seeking chat. She wants someone to take her on a date, and then she'll make up her mind if she wants to get intimite.

She doesn't have the personality nor the looks to impose conditions, but she expects to get paid to go get pizza, and then she will still have the option to turn him down, after he already made an investment.

She should think things through before asking. I told her come to the bakery 5 minutes away from my place buy yourself a juice and if you want to be my friend you can do that. of course she's paying her own taxi and her own juice. Duuumbooo.

Ahhh let the silly women be silly women.

That may be why so many use Facebook.

Hello. Are you available? I want to see you. How much do you want? I pay (whatever price you want). Is that okay? Yes I will give you 20 k for a taxi. Can you be here in 1 hour? Okay. I will see you in 2 hours.

(Hola. Estás disponible? Quiero verte. Cuanto quieres por un rato? Siempre pago (whatever). Está bien? Sí te daré 20 mil mas por un taxi. Puedes llegar acá en una hora? Claro. Entonces te veré en 2 horas.).

She'll show up, probably want to use the bathroom to freshen up, might come out in lingerie or just underwear. In less than 15 minutes she will be doing what you want. If she's enjoying your company she'll still be doing what you want 2 or 3 hours later. When she's done, give her the money and walk her to the door.

Tomorrow she'll send pictures of her friend and ask if you want a trio.

[TresRios]

I can only vouch for the first one. Erika Munos. I first saw her a few times a couple years back. Saw her again about two months ago. Very thin not a lot of baby damage. Friendly girl and you'll have a good time.

I wouldn't call her a super star performer but I would bet you'll be satisfied with your cita.

Excellent thanks. Can you say what she charges? What she does or doesn't do?

She strikes me as the girl next door type.

TR.

[JjBee62]

What would you say if I told you the story was completely made up?

I would say the guy should tell his side of the story. I'm certainly willing to give him an unbiased (reasonably) hearing.

I would also say, again my focus on reporting the incident (with no identifying details) was to discourage the type of behavior the guy has been (perhaps falsely) accused of.

[Member #4665]

I met another young shy woman on seeking chat. She wants someone to take her on a date, and then she'll make up her mind if she wants to get intimite.

She doesn't have the personality nor the looks to impose conditions, but she expects to get paid to go get pizza, and then she will still have the option to turn him down, after he already made an investment.

She should think things through before asking. I told her come to the bakery 5 minutes away from my place ( she can travel across the city, not me) buy yourself a juice and if you want to be my friend you can do that. of course she's paying her own taxi and her own juice. Duuumbooo.

Ahhh let the silly women be silly women.