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  1. #11898

    Art of the deal

    Quote Originally Posted by DukesFord  [View Original Post]
    I'm not much of a negotiator, how do get them down. I think I'd go with an approach where I'd say:
    I'm not much of a negotiator myself as well. I'm used to the Montreal / Barcelona scene with incalls and brothels with set prices for all girls. I find it easier to keep track of and you know what you're getting pretty much.

    Since reading all the posts here it seems like Brazil is a buyers market where there is room to negotiate given the economics of the country. I'm seeing so far the $400-$600 range is where you expect good service and if you pay more you're looking for something specific or you're being taken (for 1 HR time period that is) if you pay less like $100-$250 you will most likely get bait and switch and get quick rushed sex. The worse.

    I would not use your approach because these girls seems to be getting a lot of messages all the time so after reading your message they will just move on. But if you throw them a number they have something to respond to and it's not like they get booked completely all the time so if they see no one is going to book them or few have for the day then they will take your reduced offer than nothing at all.

    She gave me her 600 rate and I told her the time I wanted her and for 500. She took it. At worse she will say 600 is her firm rate so no harm no foul. If I gave her a 100 offer yea that would be stupid. She was worth 600 anyways so if I did pay that I would be fine with that.

    With Yasmin P from Private55 her rate was 400 and given her looks and twitter profile that was more than a fair price. No need to negotiate. Worth the price.

    With my first post with the girl who baited and switch me she wanted 250 for 1 HR so I said lets do 2 HR for 500, makes sense right? She asked for 800. Ridiculous. I knew that price was too high. Took the 1 HR, had a bad session and learned my lesson. Knew something was wrong and avoided making a costly mistake.

    It's really all about gut feeling, throwing offers and being direct.

    Kind of a hassle tbh but it's how Brazil works so just got to adapt to it.

  2. #11897

    Yup

    Quote Originally Posted by Anaggie  [View Original Post]
    Is this the one you are talking about?

    https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/1948/

    I spent the weekend with her and another redhead (read my post a few pages back) and it was fun. She is bi and really prefers girls so if you want a threesome one night. She is totally down for it.
    Read your post and was definitely inspired by that to come down to Brazil and give it a shot tbh! Now do I want to spend 2 k USD? (I'm assuming it's USD for those 3 days or else you got a steal of the century) It's a bit rich for my blood but from what I read you got your money's worth!

    She was actually the first girl I reached out to but seems like she has been MIA since new years, maybe on vacation which would be disappointing for me.

    I was also looking at another redhead Sofia Gauche but I checked her twitter and she is on vacation till the 14th so that also was a let down.

    Definitely want to do my first 3 some here in Brazil. Girls seem good and the price honestly can't be beat! (I know Asia has better prices but I'm not into Asian girls like crazy) so that's a goal before I leave next week! Two redheads or 1 redhead and 1 blonde. Trying my luck and hoping for the best!

  3. #11896

    Yes!

    Quote Originally Posted by AznSafado  [View Original Post]
    You might want to give one of these girls a try. Their profiles have plenty of pics and videos so you'll have a good idea of what you're getting looks wise and perhaps even performance wise:

    https://twitter.com/NinaBarbosa18?s=09

    https://twitter.com/mari_avilaofc?s=09
    Thanks I will!

    I was looking at Nina but didn't see the other girl anywhere and she looks like my type!

    Fast response too you guys are the best! Thank you!

  4. #11895
    I'm not much of a negotiator, how do get them down. I think I'd go with an approach where I'd say:

    Thanks for the information on your rate, but I'm not sure how I could afford your rates, wish I could.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    So far second day is better.
    She wanted to charge 600 got her to go for 500. She wants 800 for hotel visits so went to her instead.

  5. #11894
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    Trying out MClass tomorrow with Melina and Yumi Yamada.

    Is it trust worthy? I saw Marina (redhead girl) was on there and read someone guy on the forum had some good luck with her.

    Don't won't to get burned again like I did with Vipsecrets.

    Thanks.
    Is this the one you are talking about?

    https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/1948/

    I spent the weekend with her and another redhead (read my post a few pages back) and it was fun. She is bi and really prefers girls so if you want a threesome one night. She is totally down for it.

  6. #11893

    Redhead spinners

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    So far second day is better.

    Used club model and private55.

    No BBFS anywhere I seen for the person who was asking.

    1. Tieri Mizuno.

    Contacted via club model.

    She wanted to charge 600 got her to go for 500. She wants 800 for hotel visits so went to her instead.

    ...

    Trying to find some decent redheads and spinners so that's the goal leaving in a week so if anyone knows any info it would be nice to have.

    2nd day good but could be better.
    You might want to give one of these girls a try. Their profiles have plenty of pics and videos so you'll have a good idea of what you're getting looks wise and perhaps even performance wise:

    https://twitter.com/NinaBarbosa18?s=09

    https://twitter.com/mari_avilaofc?s=09

  7. #11892

    Imho:

    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    I got BBFS in Rio but never in SP. I asked, offered extra money and never got it going. Not sure if that is just the SP scene, or if I didn't find the right hookers. SP always felt a lot more business like. Rio always felt far more laid back.
    The difference you'll find between the Rio scene and the Sao Paulo scene is, IMHO: Rio caters to ballers who are in town from a few days to a few weeks. They got loads of money to blow and plenty of time on their hands to do it in. BBFS is not really an issue, if the price is right, and you look healthy.

    Conversely, Sao Paulo mongers are mostly corporate types (such as myself) who not only work here, but also live here. I've been living here almost 6 years, if I want BBFS I call one of my regulars and it's no a major problem because that's how we roll.

    Cheers!

  8. #11891

    MClass?

    Trying out MClass tomorrow with Melina and Yumi Yamada.

    Is it trust worthy? I saw Marina (redhead girl) was on there and read someone guy on the forum had some good luck with her.

    Don't won't to get burned again like I did with Vipsecrets.

    Thanks.

  9. #11890

    2nd Day intel

    So far second day is better.

    Used club model and private55.

    No BBFS anywhere I seen for the person who was asking.

    1. Tieri Mizuno.

    Contacted via club model.

    She wanted to charge 600 got her to go for 500. She wants 800 for hotel visits so went to her instead.

    She is much older than the pics suggest she is like 30 or so and is not picture perfect but she was very nice and spoke decent English. Nice big ass and what seems like natural tits with big nipples.

    She may not be model status hot but she definitely knows how to suck and fuck and let you take control. Great session. She made those typical Japanese girl sex noises which doesn't do anything for me but was nice.

    I'm not into Asian girls as most Americans guys are but she's decent. Very chill and helped me find some good restaurants.

    2. Yasmin Piovane.

    Contacted via private55.

    Charges 400 at her location. She looks exactly like her pictures. Nice face, body and big tits / ass all natural.

    Really sweet girl. Speaks Spanish so that helped me a lot. Started with a great massage and some good talk. The sex started off good, BBBJ was short but good and then the sex was just ok. She seemed to lose steam unfortunately. Didn't like to have her tits sucked so disappointing there. Never kissed come to think of it. Really odd how the mood changed. Mixed bag idk she seems good but the end was lackluster.

    Trying to find some decent redheads and spinners so that's the goal leaving in a week so if anyone knows any info it would be nice to have.

    2nd day good but could be better.

  10. #11889

    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuupter  [View Original Post]
    She seems to have good reviews on GPGUIA, here is here twitter https://twitter.com/Tiechan6.

    And here is her reviews https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.ph...5f865&start=20 just google translate it.

    You can find escorts too on twitter, here are a few guys that meets escorts and recommends or reviews them. Add them and find out from their post or contact lists.

    https://twitter.com/Melissa_sp2020

    https://twitter.com/juanzefino

    https://twitter.com/yusukeelias

    https://twitter.com/BreakingBad_GP

    https://twitter.com/AndarilhoGP
    Thanks again! You're really making my trip here in SP better!

    I should have know better than to use something else besides the other sites you mentioned, I even had a gut feeling it was going to be no good but I decided to roll the dice.

    At the end of the day I'm trying to find a girl who I can spend multiple days with that is chill, like the old saying goes "one good girl is worth a thousand bitches" of course due to not speaking Portuguese and not being well prepared it might not happen but its 2021 a new year and you should always try to set high goals so why not.

    Seems that SP is very business like as someone else mentioned so maybe Rio is the place to be but it is only my 2nd day so I'll see.

  11. #11888
    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoTrigger  [View Original Post]
    I'm reading many recent reports, but they are all lacking one critical detail. Are mongers getting BBFS or is it covered? For some of us like me it makes all the difference.
    I got BBFS in Rio but never in SP. I asked, offered extra money and never got it going. Not sure if that is just the SP scene, or if I didn't find the right hookers. SP always felt a lot more business like. Rio always felt far more laid back.

  12. #11887

    Difficult in Latin America

    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoTrigger  [View Original Post]
    I'm reading many recent reports, but they are all lacking one critical detail. Are mongers getting BBFS or is it covered? For some of us like me it makes all the difference.
    I find BBFS easily only in Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Morocco, Tunisia.

  13. #11886
    I'm reading many recent reports, but they are all lacking one critical detail. Are mongers getting BBFS or is it covered? For some of us like me it makes all the difference.

  14. #11885
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    So on my first day found out some things.

    1. Grand Hyatt Hotel in Brooklin lets girls in but they charge $150 reais for your guest. Had to sign the bill as they brought the girl up. Well at least they let her in I guess. I booked a room for 2 guests so I thought they wouldn't charge anything but not so.

    2. bianca ninfeta from Vipsecret is bait and switch. Girl that came in was at least 30 instead of 21. More thicker tanned and just not my type face wise. Disappointing as she took less than 20 minutes to get everything done and lazy at that wouldn't even get on top. Paid 250 plus 70 uber and 150 for guest fee at the hotel. Not worth it at all. Had trouble trying to find a girl to get and at this point was just tired and went with it due to everything being closed and not being able to take out $$.

    3. if you come to Brazil try to get some decent currency exchange back home so you have some cash to use right away or be like me who has to wait til Monday to get big stack of cash out. Hotel ATM only allows 2200 reais plus $250 reais fee to take it out. Annoying but partly my fault so it is what it is.
    She seems to have good reviews on GPGUIA, here is here twitter https://twitter.com/Tiechan6.

    And here is her reviews https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.ph...5f865&start=20 just google translate it.

    You can find escorts too on twitter, here are a few guys that meets escorts and recommends or reviews them. Add them and find out from their post or contact lists.

    https://twitter.com/Melissa_sp2020

    https://twitter.com/juanzefino

    https://twitter.com/yusukeelias

    https://twitter.com/BreakingBad_GP

    https://twitter.com/AndarilhoGP

  15. #11884
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    So on my first day found out some things.

    2. bianca ninfeta from Vipsecret is bait and switch. Girl that came in was at least 30 instead of 21. More thicker tanned and just not my type face wise. Disappointing as she took less than 20 minutes to get everything done and lazy at that wouldn't even get on top. Paid 250 plus 70 uber and 150 for guest fee at the hotel. Not worth it at all. Had trouble trying to find a girl to get and at this point was just tired and went with it due to everything being closed and not being able to take out $$.
    Damn, I forgot to mention only trust sites like clubmodel. Br, splove, private55, fatalmodel for Sao Paulo, others you don't hear of in this forum should not be trusted. I don't use photoacompanhantes as that is also bait and switch. You should sent her home if the picture don't look like her.

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