Sao Paulo Reports

[MichaelSamuel]

I continue to be bad with getting trip reports timely so this is from my experience in Nov. Will be brief but hopefully useful to other first timers.

I was having a good time in Rio and shortened my time in SP to only 3 nights and it wasn't enough! First I took ubers everywhere they are just so easy and affordable I never bothered with anything else. I took some cabs in Rio and they were fine, but Uber is still cheaper and easier.

Stayed at the Renaissance in Jardins by paulista ave and seemed like a solid enough location. Nice neighborhood some easy site seeing you can walk to and plenty of restaurants and shopping. As I mentioned in my other report I only had one incall with a nice dupla from twitter.

https://twitter.com/ninfas_doprazer

Agatha and Carol had a terrific time and they were very enthusiastic. Both were all holes open and could switch between the two without having to change the cover as long as wasn't the ass. I probably should have negotiated more on price but it was 600 HR w / o anal and 700 with. They communicated well and arrived on time looking terrific. Will be happy to repeat them next time around.

With only limited time in SP I didn't manage to do anything other than Scandallo and that dupla. What can I saw about Scandallo? Wow, just wow. I have been playing for nearly 18 years and never seen anything like it except maybe the Macao saunas back in 2013, but I can't be sure and price wise is no comparison. If you have never experienced decision paralysis you are in for some trauma.

A few notes of practicality for first timers. Like many clubs there is security so no weapons of any kind. You will need a passport or copy to sign in at the front desk and get your ID card for the night. Then up one floor to the main lounge and restaurant area. Before 7 pm you entry fee is all consumable after only half. I thought sushi was pretty good the one night a buddy and I split a platter and the restaurant seemed popular with others. Once you choose a girl you go back to first floor then up a set of stairs which is actually the connected hotel (I assume this is some type of legal business separation). Here you get your room and if you paying the girl by card they ring that through (6% surcharge). When you finish you then pay for the room, no charge for credit card. Then head back to the club or out for the night. When you check out you can also pay by card no charge. One last point to note there is a bag check so if you have luggage you can check it here and there was a small fee like 20 BRL or something. I wanted to get one last session in so I checked out of the hotel on the last day and came with my baggage, I had to open everything for security for a quick look which was a pain but reasonable request.

I had 3 different girls and of course the last one was the best. Paid 700 each time which was probably a bit over but I didn't seem to get anywhere trying to talk them down. Perhaps it was the girls I chose? I think part of that is probably on me as I invested a bit too much time flirting ahead of time and they knew they had me hooked. Granted that works the other way as well so maybe being a bit harder would have yielded results. I did get contacts for all of them so hopefully on return I can reconnect outside the club for less.

I do have a couple questions for those more experienced at scans. I didn't get any indication from any of the 3 on there being opportunity for round 2, though really only had time with one of the girls I took. What's the status quo here? Also I didn't talk about specifics other than price with any of the girls before going to the room, how common is that? In particular would be curious if you can get any agreements on tapping that ass ahead of time.

Quick thanks to all those who posted before me, it was my first time in SP and first time in Brasil and the information was great and truly appreciated.

[MichaelSamuel]

I stayed at the Renaissance in November and had no problems. Only the main entrance was open so I couldn't go down and bring the girl in through the side or back but wasn't issue. I only had one dupla incall but nobody challenged them or me and while not dressed too provocatively they certainly were dressed to be noticed. In general I liked the property and would stay there again. As with the JW in Rio the lounge was closed so no freebies which was disappointing since I had finally hit platinum status with marriott. Every night you could request a bottle of wine or bucket of beers for free since the club was closed, came in handy with the girls.

I use a schwab card exclusively, but I did make the mistake on my first withdraw at the airport and didn't pay close enough attention and let them do the currency conversion. Big mistake. The 1 k BRL withdraw from that was 212.41 USD (includes fees that schwab reimburses), the regular ones the rest of the trip between 185-194 USD. Was one of those things right after I touched agree my mind kicked in and said "wait, what? Was too sleep deprived at that point and doing bad with getting a flight to Rio and just got flustered, live and learn.

I am planning a trip in the spring and debating between Grand Hyatt and Renaissance. After hearing your story, I might just pay the premium and stay at the Renaissance. It almost sounds like they were trying to take advantage of you as they knew she was a pro. This is the first time I've ever heard of where someone books double occupancy rate room. And charge a guest fee for the 2nd guest.

Are you sure you paid the double occupancy rate? Also, is this the first "guest" you had come up? It sounds like you didn't go down to meet her. I also presume you met her in the evening. Just curious whether there were other mitigating circumstances or they just made shit up to take advantage of a monger.

I plan to see an outcall online escort during the day and maybe bring back a girl from Scandallo during the evening and would hate to be hit with 300+ in additional guest fees. After paying extra for a double occupancy rate.

It's been my experience that it's always best to get cash from atms at airports as soon as you land. As long as you select local currency, it'll be the current exchange rate. Just make sure to use a card without fx fees and no ATM fees. Using a hotel is rarely a good route to take. With all that said, was shocked they wanted to charge you 10%.

[Turgid]

Just wanted to say how impressed I was with both Agoda and especially the Mercure hotel chain.

Even though my booking was non refundable, I followed a few people's advice on here (thanks again BTW) asking if they would consider a credit voucher or letting me change the dates and they just let me cancel the booking without any charge.

They didn't have to do that, so it's great to see good customer service still exists.

That's quite impressive considering the trauma hotel chains are enduring right now.

[Kcrl01]

It happens all the time. A transaction fails, and Uber notifies you. But you can actually continue to use the card. Before your next trip, Uber app will ask you to repeat the transaction, and it's usually successful. I don't think it depends by your card.

My banks are in the USA, I've been living in SP for around 6 yrs, but very so often when I use the Uber app my card (s) get rejected. To remedy it I have to contact my banks in the USA to straighten out the fraud alerts, it's a total pain in the butt!

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[Incrociatore]

I used my credit card with Uber in Brazil. Totally safe. One big issue: after about 2 months Uber rejected my credit card for no reason so I had to pay cash if I wanted to use Uber. Rejection of their credit card all of a sudden for no reason is an issue many heavy Uber users have with Uber all over the world it seems.

It happens all the time. A transaction fails, and Uber notifies you. But you can actually continue to use the card. Before your next trip, Uber app will ask you to repeat the transaction, and it's usually successful. I don't think it depends by your card.

[Sargent 50]

Seen this in another forum. How long has GP been "under construction".

1st things 1st. A big thank you to all of you who provide info and post your experiences in this thread. My first trip to Sao Paulo and due to this thread I knew exactly where to go and what to do. The info here is invaluable. Many thanks.

My trip has been weird. I'm here on business and every time I decided to hit up a clinica I had to jump on a call or put out a work related fire. I'm staying in Moema at a guest friendly hotel so for the last three days I've only engaged with escorts that outcall or allow a visit to them. While doing my pre trip research I found 8 escorts who are active on Twitter and using Gpguia to check their reviews I've struck gold 7/8 so far. These women devoured me as soon as the hotel room door closed. The level of GFE that I've experienced has been top notch. I also found a site that lists all of the escorts by blonde, brunette, mulatto etc. https://www.gptwitter.com/. I think it's a combination of luck, getting a sense of their energy from their tweets, 'bom energia' and that I had to adjust to the fact that they don't look at being punctual as I do being from New York LOL. They take their time responding and are usually 15-20 minutes late. I met one girl while although the sex was good it looked like she was having a fight with someone on her phone so she was apologizing way too much. I'm not easily annoyed so it was all good..

[XXL]

Is it safe to use Paypal as the payment option for Uber payments? My credit card is connected to paypal but I figure paypal could be a barrier. I read some guys using their cards were getting charges added to their cards in hours of using their cards as payments for uber. I have lots of 100 bills and it's such a pain to get smaller bills all the time as most my trips are like 20 reais or under and 100 is too much to change for some drivers.

Thanks for any help, advice or tips!

I used my credit card with Uber in Brazil. Totally safe. One big issue: after about 2 months Uber rejected my credit card for no reason so I had to pay cash if I wanted to use Uber. Rejection of their credit card all of a sudden for no reason is an issue many heavy Uber users have with Uber all over the world it seems.

[SoberHans69]

Just wanted to say how impressed I was with both Agoda and especially the Mercure hotel chain.

Even though my booking was non refundable, I followed a few people's advice on here (thanks again BTW) asking if they would consider a credit voucher or letting me change the dates and they just let me cancel the booking without any charge.

They didn't have to do that, so it's great to see good customer service still exists.

[Incrociatore]

I'm a good negotiator. I was able to make a threesome at my place with two hot girls for 600. One of the two constantly visit me for 300. Another one, my favorite, wants 500. Got one for 250, two others for 350, one for 500 yesterday (which I didn't like). I'm not willing to pay more than 600 at my place. I do not visit the girls, because usually they live in a shitty place where you all mongers fuck on the same bed they change once a week. Not for me. I only fuck at my place. I usually book in advanced, sometime the same day, or for the day after. I do only use only fatalmodel, because it's the only reliable website. And twitter as well. Unfortunately I can't access to your map, otherwise I could have advised on some girls I have been with.

I like your approach. Mine is similar, but I just do contact the girls I like and I keep the conversation on whatsapp till I fucked the girl. If I like her, I store the contact, otherwise I delete and block the number so I don't contact the same girl twice by mistake.

Everyone, please bare with me, I'm more of a mathematician than a cunning linguistic!

I tweaked the map of Sao Paulo (courtesy of World Traveler) and added different groups / icons for Clinicas, Boates (not sure if this differs from "Clubs" Clubs, Swinger Clubs, Prives, Love Hotels, Other, Hotels / Neighborhoods / Airports). What I don't like about Google My Maps is the integration with Google Maps for directions, which sucks!. I thought it'd integrate just fine, but it doesn't, it almost defeats the purpose of why I updated the map. I'm slowly moving these things over to Google Maps, which sucks because you don't have visible groupings with individual icons..

[Incrociatore]

Is it safe to use Paypal as the payment option for Uber payments? My credit card is connected to paypal but I figure paypal could be a barrier. I read some guys using their cards were getting charges added to their cards in hours of using their cards as payments for uber. I have lots of 100 bills and it's such a pain to get smaller bills all the time as most my trips are like 20 reais or under and 100 is too much to change for some drivers.

Thanks for any help, advice or tips!

I use the card with Uber all over the world. And when I pay in restaurants I use Apple Pay. I never bring the card with me, only when I need to get money from the ATM to pay the girls. I go around with my phone and some cash only, I keep the rest at home. I don't get more than 1040 per time. It's enough for 2/3 girls. PayPal is trash, don't use it.

[Anaggie]

You read where? I used my credit card for Uber all over the world including Brazil and no fraud. I've also used my credit card all over Brazil, including brothels and had no issues.

I concur.

I use my credit card all over Brazil and never had issues (knock on wood). The times I have had my info stolen was while I was at home.

I personally am not a fan of carrying cash so I carry the least amount I need to. Depends on the cost of the trip, I will pay cash or charge it on card.

[YippieKayay]

Is it safe to use Paypal as the payment option for Uber payments? My credit card is connected to paypal but I figure paypal could be a barrier. I read some guys using their cards were getting charges added to their cards in hours of using their cards as payments for uber. I have lots of 100 bills and it's such a pain to get smaller bills all the time as most my trips are like 20 reais or under and 100 is too much to change for some drivers.

Thanks for any help, advice or tips!

You read where? I used my credit card for Uber all over the world including Brazil and no fraud. I've also used my credit card all over Brazil, including brothels and had no issues.

[Bearsi]

Is it safe to use Paypal as the payment option for Uber payments? My credit card is connected to paypal but I figure paypal could be a barrier. I read some guys using their cards were getting charges added to their cards in hours of using their cards as payments for uber. I have lots of 100 bills and it's such a pain to get smaller bills all the time as most my trips are like 20 reais or under and 100 is too much to change for some drivers.

Thanks for any help, advice or tips!

[Bearsi]

I wouldn't say that the online escorts are trash. I would say I have had good returns on online escorts. I have found that you have to plan early and send a whole bunch of messages beforehand and weed out the ones who don't act interested. It takes some time. But it depends on the person. I enjoy the boates and Scandello but have found that I don't have connection to the girl after I am done banging them and I want them gone. Whereas with an online girl, I have established a connection so I enjoy my time with her. To each his own. I guess.

Trash was too strong of a word I agree. Didn't mean to offend anyone. Had a good time with Tieri from club model and Melina from MClass although I do have to say their photos were a bit misleading but of course you always have to expect that to some degree. Still good performers and I'm not so critical of girls not having flawless bodies like some guys here. Jasmine from private55 was good but the mood towards the end was off. And that girl from VIPsecrets was just awful but again some fault lies on my part for that as well.

The Twitter girls seem more reliable but also busy so that's a bit tough.

I do find the boates really good value and you can see the girls reactions and mood just from the line up introduction which is very helpful. Had really good luck and services.

Scandello I like but it can be overwhelming and the rooms could use some mirrors IMHO.

Jealous of your luck and success honestly!

I will keep posting my updates, like sao paulo so far and thanks for everyone's help!