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  1. #43504
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    when in reality it may only be half to the girl not 1/5th, hence the analogy was flawed
    That is incorrect. The customer will pay house bar fine to take the girl out already. Maybe the girl will share with mms or others who help her but that is not the rule and there is no way that it will be anywhere close to half.

    An example is that you don't get girl inside Gusto, you get number or you make deal outside to get lower price, or just wait for a few weeks or months. Maybe one of them will bite. That is how I understand what Mr E is saying. In this approach, all similar girls in one's eyes are interchangeable.

  2. #43503
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

    I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

    Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

    No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

    But otherwise never again.

    The Tall Man.
    If these are your non pros that you got to before other mongers did then you shouldn't give the info.

    You don't ever have to give anyone's info anyway.

    But my point is if she's a truly hot fb girl in the eyes of many it's not going to make a difference.

    Odds are she has friends who will guide and her try to find her dates to get commission which is a huge thing out here.

    Every girl is not only a hooker she's a pimpette. Lmao.

  3. #43502
    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.
    I agree she is hot. If I am going to guess, I would say she is. She has a friend (same first name, last name Gomez) is a prepago. Maybe you can ask Gomez to confirm.

  4. #43501

    Since You Brought It Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    This is good information, and having two rooms is a great idea, I'm returning in February and have an apartment in Poblado, but am looking for a back-up location / hotel to take some of my Chicas besides Poblado. I used to stay with some of them in El Centro, but like the Laureles area as well.

    Sounds like you really know how to "grease the skid's" enlisting the Hotel staff to assist in your escapades! Thanks for the info, and I'm waiting for a report describing how you had a pair of girls in each room, meaning two in each room, and you pounding on all of them switching every few minutes from one to the next. Maybe they even have some adjoining rooms at one of the Hotels, then you don't have to get dressed when you go back and forth between the rooms.
    The most Rooms I have ever run at the same time was 4 at four different hotels, all within a couple of blocks, using Ayenda 1228 de la Balcones 70 as the anchor. That was unusual and 99% of the time I only need one Room. That will change when Catgirl enters the equation. I don't recommend scattering Rooms around town. You want them bunched up as close as possible or even in the same hotel. Hotel Botero was great for that, with 14 or however many floors it was of Rooms. Remember my "Can I fuck you while you're sleeping" rule? Essential in the situation when you are popping your head in a room in the middle of the night. I tip the maids and I treat the hotel staff with politeness and they watch out for me. Thanks for reminding me, I need to tip that girl that kept La Gacela and Soft Swirl from running into each other. Ostee Out. Soft Swirl is braiding my hair, that is foreplay, jaja.

  5. #43500

    I concurr

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

    I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

    Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

    No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

    But otherwise never again.

    The Tall Man.
    Mongering is essentially every man for himself, IMO. This is only my second trip to Medellin and I do not consider myself an expert about this city, at least not yet. I can only imagine what it will escalate to once I am relocated here permanently and embedded. There are guys who act like you're holding out when you don't cough up the exact info they want about girls, hotels, etc. That would be correct, I am holding out unless I have met you, approved you, and you have someone worthwhile to trade, WITH her permission in advance, jeje. Don't ask and look for handholding.

    This morning, La Gacela and I walked from the Estadio Metro Station to UniCentral Mall, a 30 minute stroll along the full length of Avenida 70. I bet we walked by 20 little boutique hotels and as many apartments for rent within a block of Avenida 70 that would be just as "friendly" as any Ayenda property. When I land in a new area, I intially book a hotel for 3 or 4 nights, and then go exploring, in case I find something I like better. Make a flash card with three or four questions in Spanish, "How much for one night? Are guests allowed? What is the guest fee? Is the WiFi strong?" What else do you need to know? Jot down the 4 answers on the back of the business card from the hotel. Take a foto of the front of the hotel to match an image with the card. Don't hesitate to ask to see a Room. They will probably show you their best room, then ask can you get that exact same room? At the end or your reconnoiter, glance over your cards and decide your next move. Ostee out.

    Gratuitious fotos of my Numero Uno Novia's ass and her Just A Walkin' Down the Street Singin' Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Do. The Third foto is Soft Swirl who just arrived a few minutes ago an hour after La Gacela left for work. This is Soft Swirl's encore visit after the Pillow Talk. I have two states of existence in Medellin. I am either with a girl, or a girl is on her way over. Any lapses and I get agitated.

    Numero Uno Novia Catgirl and I are hooking up Sunday for the first time this trip. Unless I make up another bullsh*t story about flight delays. She is ready to kill me because she strongly suspects I have been here fucking my brains out for more than a week, and she would be correct. Jajajajaja. I need to get a giant mural foto of my bedroom back in the states and use it as a backdrop. The main way she knows I am here is that I have not accepted a video call from her in over a week. Kinda hard to explain that away after the fifth or sixth time, jajaja. Her last message to me was "I'm going to go fuck a young chico now. " I asked her to please use a condom.
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  6. #43499

    This chica

    I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.

    LOL this post is comes right after The Tall Man's post about not giving out contacts. LOL so I know he is not going to tell me LOL but I get his point! Even if I told him a thousand times that I am not going to overpay this chica. I did not understand this at first and thought people were just being assholes but Experiences and the experiences of other mongers teach us to develop out own rules.

    I will not share her name or profile link with anyone even in PM because I do not know if she is prepago and so I do not consider it good form to share that stuff without knowing. Also if someone can confirm to me that she is a working girl than I would ask them to supply her first name so we know we are talking about the same chica and they are not just confusing her with some chica that looks a like her. I consider this a long shot but if anyone recognizes her and knows her to be working girl than a PM to me with her name.
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  7. #43498
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.
    True, but don't let it be you who inadvertently messed up the great deal you had going.

    I've got chicas I've been seeing since 2014. Some have completely disappeared from sight.

    But at least I know that there was nothing that I did on my end (like foolishly giving away my contacts) that accelerated their exit either to another guy or from the game itself.

  8. #43497
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    Great post Sangnyc21! "stay in your lane" I love that line it's perfect for guys reading here.

    I'm in Medellin for the winter and banging FB chicas and friends of friends of friends of FB chicas LOL. I give them all "250 mil incluyendo de Ubers". Also banging some SA chicas for the same deal. Some take that offer and others do not. No big deal either way there is so much pussy here.

    One thing I think is different with the better looking FB chicas is how often they work. I always ask them and they have to stop and think about the last time they were with a gringo. Or maybe they would be good poker players LOL because they are pretty convincing. But I tend to believe most as they are willing to share many details of lives. And have little or no shame for selling ass.
    This is the part most guys don't understand. They see the casa chicas, doing 6-10 guys a day, the popular street girls doing that many or more and assume the Facebook girls are doing the same. Many of them are only seeing 1 or 2 guys a week. Sure there are some scheduling 2 or 3 a day and some of the Mansion girls need a revolving door they're in and out so much, but most are fairly low volume.

  9. #43496
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGault  [View Original Post]
    It takes a while for guys being burnt by giving away the few gems they can come up with and seeing the negative results of their actions.

    In my mind I give a lot of info to help people but I draw the line at sending gems away to guys I don't know.

    The other thing that burns me up is what happened to me years ago in Mayorista. I was sitting at a table and a guy comes out of a taxi and asks me to help him get a girl. He showed me the one he liked. I made the deal for him as he had zero Spanish. He then takes the girl to a taxi and leaves with her. Not a two word thank you to me.
    Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

    I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

    Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

    No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

    But otherwise never again.

    The Tall Man.

  10. #43495

    Random Recent Pics

    The long shot of the back of the chica is out my hotel window. Avenida 70 is not a pick up area like Botero Park but that are definitely girls who can be picked up.

    La Gacela (la chica negro) is looking less Gacela-ish and more Amazonian with the weight gain, but I am digging it. She is strong, tight, and we have had some fun wrestling matches. And her muscular black ass is a great contrast to Flame's soft big white ass.

    I had to repeat Soft Swirl's huge apple bottom ass because she is worth a second look.
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  11. #43494
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Remember one thing guys. If the girl is universally hot to many eyes she's going to eventually find one or 2 guys that will give her off the walls money and gifts.

    Also she prob has many friends in the business whose prob had success stories as well.

    There's nothing you can do about this.

    I've had a girl lined up for a year now. Settled on 250 mil everything I wanted in the session.

    Well she's found her sugar daddy now buying her gifts, taking her places and guess what?? Yup I won't be seeing her.

    Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.

    Maybe for a short time period. But in the long run if she's hot enough she'll get what she wants.

    There are many girls I don't even think that are all that and not worth 200 mil for me charging 500 and up.
    So many guys get so excited about hooking up with hot girls, viz, 8's and 9's. They post here with drool dripping off their lips. Hope they realize that hot girls get fucked by the most men.

  12. #43493

    No safes. Safety deposit box at front desk

    Quote Originally Posted by DogLife  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the details. Just one thing. Do these Ayendas have safes in their rooms. Is it a standard or we need to ask for a room which has a safe.
    No safes. Safety deposit box at front desk.

  13. #43492
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

    They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room.

    I get double discount, first from the Booking site I use for the hotel, and then "Ayenda Dollars" directly from the chain so my prices are rock bottom. For YOU Surfer, I went back down to the desk and axed them what my rate was for the week, since frankly I don't keep track - 249 mil COP, 6 nights. What I was trying to point out was the DIFFERENCE of 100 mil COP for the week between the online price and the cheaper price at the front desk. In the past the better price was on line but not this time. Clear as mud? I might be a little punchy. I slept last night night but I did not repay the deficit in full. I had to send Soft Swirl down the back staircase while La Gacela came up the front. The girl at the front desk helped me out a lot and kept La Gacela in front of her while Soft Swirl went out the back. THAT is what you call guest friendly and much appreciated.
    Thanks for the details. Just one thing. Do these Ayendas have safes in their rooms. Is it a standard or we need to ask for a room which has a safe.

  14. #43491

    Thanks For The Info

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

    They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room..
    This is good information, and having two rooms is a great idea, I'm returning in February and have an apartment in Poblado, but am looking for a back-up location / hotel to take some of my Chicas besides Poblado. I used to stay with some of them in El Centro, but like the Laureles area as well.

    Sounds like you really know how to "grease the skid's" enlisting the Hotel staff to assist in your escapades! Thanks for the info, and I'm waiting for a report describing how you had a pair of girls in each room, meaning two in each room, and you pounding on all of them switching every few minutes from one to the next. Maybe they even have some adjoining rooms at one of the Hotels, then you don't have to get dressed when you go back and forth between the rooms.

  15. #43490
    Quote Originally Posted by SavePros321  [View Original Post]
    It's the story of the guy who is so desperate and eager to please people he's never met before by giving them his best chica contacts.

    Then six months later he wonders why the chica he paid 150 k now is asking for 250 k.

    It's simple logic: If you find a gem, what do you gain from giving away that gem to somebody you've never met before "just because"?

    Some guys here will be like "plenty of chicas everywhere. What's the big deal about giving a few contacts away"?

    And those will be the same guys in your DM trying to get your contacts since they've burned through all of theirs, lmao!
    Remember one thing guys. If the girl is universally hot to many eyes she's going to eventually find one or 2 guys that will give her off the walls money and gifts.

    Also she prob has many friends in the business whose prob had success stories as well.

    There's nothing you can do about this.

    I've had a girl lined up for a year now. Settled on 250 mil everything I wanted in the session.

    Well she's found her sugar daddy now buying her gifts, taking her places and guess what?? Yup I won't be seeing her.

    Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.

    Maybe for a short time period. But in the long run if she's hot enough she'll get what she wants.

    There are many girls I don't even think that are all that and not worth 200 mil for me charging 500 and up.

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