Medellin Reports

[The Tall Man]

It is my understanding that in Colombia, the amount of child support to be paid is based on the strata in which the mother lives. As for enforcement against a gringo, who knows. But morally I would at least pay what's required. And perhaps more since it would not be the child's fault he or she is born. But I hope not to ever have that situation!

Both Robert and Boyd (the Mansion) have kids with Colombian women, although neither are married to the mother. I will ask Boyd about child support, as I am curious.

Interesting topic.

In the past 10 years here in Medellin I, like a thousand others, have met hundreds if not more than a thousand single mothers raising their kids as the Colombian biological father just fucks them and when they get pregnant find another.

I personally know one paisa who had a baby with a costeno who lived in Medellin, he has had 9 baby's with 8 different women and this in not out of the realm of normal by any measure rather the culture ingrained in the majority of the women is that them getting pregnant with such a guapo is like wining a lottery.

He does not pay a dime for any of the 9 kids and as this information is now 3 years old chances are that he has had 4 to 6 more babies.

And this guy is not necessarily attractive rather in fact he is chubby, about 40 yo now, and drives a delivery truck.

Other single moms I know personally, most are in starta 2 to 4, if they get something from the biological father it is about 150 mil a month.

I have also met a few gringo (from Canada) biological fathers and my experience is that they too, even though they have the means to support their baby / kid the find good lawyers to get them out of payment.

Now I have a real twist to this pregnancy thing.

I happen to have an extremely rare color of eyes which are not only rare in the worlds population but especially so in Colombia.

So I often have young and very fertile paisas and Venezuelans, once I get to know them, ask me if I would impregnate them as in their words "I would have the dream baby with your European traits and very rare color eyes", this is no joke as this is a regular occurrence and they are serious.

So I need to be careful. In the past 2 month alone I have had 3 serious offers to impregnate them, they even go so far as saying that they will not hold me financially responsible, right!

The Tall Man.

[Nounce]

Incorrect. The child is not a US citizen until the father who is a US citizen takes it to the embassy and claims it as his child.

That is under normal circumstance. I just look it up and there is a whole section on state department web site about how to get citizenship for a child.

Under the context, in the previous post, the paternity is supposed to have already been established, otherwise it does not make sense for judge to determine child support.

My post is not saying this is easy but it is possible under certain scenario without costing a fortune.

[Surfer500]

so she was eagerly waiting for me and off we went high into the hills / mountains of las Palmas, very exciting and very different as I am fucking her with the view of night time Medellin as she is hanging onto a railing doing her doggy style. She wanted me to take her home to barrio popular or near there but I found a taxi for her and her 10 mil extra. It was raw and real and in the open, what an experience.

I hope your feeling better, and if you caught COVID, it won't be bad for you so you can resume your daily routine.

"It was raw and real and in the open, what an experience" those are your words, in your post, that struck a cord with me.

Sometimes we have sexual experiences that are almost surreal, and I'm not talking about doing threesomes or foursomes or having a harem, all good stuff of course, but when you encounter someone and have sex somewhere in a very different venue versus a bedroom or a Hotel.

I can remember once while in Mexico many years ago I was in the Caribbean with a girlfriend on an Island with a small wooden deserted pier, and my girlfriend had me laydown on the pier, and it was a crystal clear night with a million stars out, and I just layed there with the crystal clear water all around and gazed at the stars while she blew me. It was like being on another planet, so I can totally relate to what you experienced, and I'm sure what you experienced is among others you have experienced in the past that have been etched into your memory.

I have about half a dozen sexual experiences that have left an indelible imprint in my mind, and are priceless.

[ColombiaLover]

It is my understanding that in Colombia, the amount of child support to be paid is based on the strata in which the mother lives. As for enforcement against a gringo, who knows. But morally I would at least pay what's required. And perhaps more since it would not be the child's fault he or she is born. But I hope not to ever have that situation!

Both Robert and Boyd (the Mansion) have kids with Colombian women, although neither are married to the mother. I will ask Boyd about child support, as I am curious.

Making baby outside USA is not a crime. Despite international deals and co operations Paternity is not taken seriously. Besides taking a DNA test is voluntary unless it is court ordered. No court will order it unless harm is fone to a USA citizen. In USA citizen case court order of child support can be enforced. Nobody can force a USA citizen to send child support to a foreign individual.

Caveat is if the girl gives your name to their immigration and if they take it seriously can file a case and when you try to enter can be arrested and forced to get a dna test. Will they go to all this length to support a child when they have their hands full catching real criminals is an open question.

Making babies and supporting the child is a moral obligation.

[Sammon]

Are you responding to my post?

The child is a US citizen by birth.

What you are saying is if a US citizen go to Canada and get a Canadian pregnant, nobody can enforce the child support?

Proof is in the pudding as they say. So DNA test is all important.

Having said that I met a American living in Angeles city. I was going to MNila in fly the bus van. This guy got on in one of the stops with his Philippine wife and daughter sending him off. Daughter looks Caucasian. He was going to Guam to meet USA immigration authority plead his case. He said he has been trying to get his daughter USA citizenship for last two years at USA embassy in Manila. He told me he has embassy recommended DNA test done and it proved he is the father but there were more issues. One of them was where he met the mother and if she was working in a bar. Indeed she was. Application was denied maybe there were other issues as well. At this point because he was a veteran he went through his Army channel who made a request to immigration to examine again and he was granted a hearing in Guam no less. He asked me if I looked at his daughter and look wise she did look Caucasian. It only goes to show DNA test is not a done thing of proof.

With Canada I guess it could be different. Canadian lawyer maybe glad to accept the case and cross the border and go to the Supposedly Father location and file for child support. Do not know if the judge will order a DNA test and decide for child support. Still the chances of child getting support in timely manner is up to debate. There are millions of deadbeat dads in America itself. How a Canadian lawyer will continually spend money to force the issue is hard to fathom.

An American judge will not entertain a DNA test done in other countries. Once again even if the girl hires an American lawyer (expensive proposition with no guarantee) and the lawyer is successful in getting child support order there is no way it is a done deal.

[Mr Enternational]

The child is a US citizen by birth.

Incorrect. The child is not a US citizen until the father who is a US citizen takes it to the embassy and claims it as his child.

[Flak3]

Making baby outside USA is not a crime. Despite international deals and co operations Paternity is not taken seriously. Besides taking a DNA test is voluntary unless it is court ordered. No court will order it unless harm is fone to a USA citizen. In USA citizen case court order of child support can be enforced. Nobody can force a USA citizen to send child support to a foreign individual.

Caveat is if the girl gives your name to their immigration and if they take it seriously can file a case and when you try to enter can be arrested and forced to get a dna test. Will they go to all this length to support a child when they have their hands full catching real criminals is an open question.

Making babies and supporting the child is a moral obligation.

Not according to the federal agency overseeing the collection and enforcement of international child support obligations.

USA Department of Health and Human Services Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE).

330 see Street SW.

Washington, DC 20201.

Tel: (+1) 202-401-5722.

Fax: (+1) 202-401-5655.

Email: ocseinternational@acf.hhs.gov.

Website: http://acf.hhs.gov/programs/css.

The issue of child support enforcement is a high priority to the United States. At the Department of State we:

Provide information through the Consular Affairs Internet home page;.

Deny passport services, except for direct return to the United States, to persons the USA Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families, Office of Child Support Enforcement (HHS / ACF / OCSE) certifies as $2500 or more in arrears.

Encourage foreign countries to join the Hague Convention on the International Recovery of Child Support and Other Forms of Family Maintenance (Hague Child Support Convention); and.

Facilitate communication among parents, USA States, foreign countries, and other USA Government agencies on this important subject.

HHS / ACF / OCSE is the USA Central Authority for child support agreements, including the Hague Child Support Convention. Questions about international child support enforcement may be directed to HHS / ACF / OCSE.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...d-support.html

[Nounce]

Making baby outside USA is not a crime. Despite international deals and co operations Paternity is not taken seriously. Besides taking a DNA test is voluntary unless it is court ordered. No court will order it unless harm is fone to a USA citizen. In USA citizen case court order of child support can be enforced. Nobody can force a USA citizen to send child support to a foreign individual.

Caveat is if the girl gives your name to their immigration and if they take it seriously can file a case and when you try to enter can be arrested and forced to get a dna test. Will they go to all this length to support a child when they have their hands full catching real criminals is an open question.

Making babies and supporting the child is a moral obligation.

Are you responding to my post?

Nobody can force a USA citizen to send child support to a foreign individual.

The child is a US citizen by birth.

What you are saying is if a US citizen go to Canada and get a Canadian pregnant, nobody can enforce the child support?

[Sammon]

One possibility is the Colombia court has determined the child support. Then it is easier to get US court to cooperate assume both countries are in some international convention. So this is very possible.

I think it will be difficult to get US court to cooperate without a Colombia court judgement. They will be overwhelmed by cases out of nowhere if they do. The other way is to sue in US court but that is going to be costly and US lawyers will want to be paid first in the form of retainer which will be a large sum of money by Colombia standard. I think this maybe what Surfer was thinking.

Making baby outside USA is not a crime. Despite international deals and co operations Paternity is not taken seriously. Besides taking a DNA test is voluntary unless it is court ordered. No court will order it unless harm is fone to a USA citizen. In USA citizen case court order of child support can be enforced. Nobody can force a USA citizen to send child support to a foreign individual.

Caveat is if the girl gives your name to their immigration and if they take it seriously can file a case and when you try to enter can be arrested and forced to get a dna test. Will they go to all this length to support a child when they have their hands full catching real criminals is an open question.

Making babies and supporting the child is a moral obligation.

[The Tall Man]

I would think if there is a hooker in South America that does BB, then she uses some kind birth control. You don't see a bunch of foreign babies running around like you do in Philippines and Thailand.

The post was ludicrous to begin with, imagine a knocked up hooker trying to find a long gone John. I think the post was a intended as a joke.

The pregnant Chcas you see in El Centro are typically forced to work by their loser boyfriends if their even in the picture, and just because you see a pregnant Chica working El Centro doesn't mean she got knocked up while working doing guys bareback.

And I know from personal experience that robbery by gunpoint on a moto is very common. Today a friend of mine told me about a guy somewhere on Avenida Poblado who was waiting for an Uber, had his phone in his hand, a gringo, and guess what, a guy pulls up on a moto and shoves a gun in the guys face and says hand over the phone. Just another reminder of how cautious you have to be, hence I only carry a cheap burner phone on me, and I only travel by taxi / bus and the Metro.

1000% true about the centro chicas, both Venezuelans and paisa, getting pregnant by their absolutely loser boyfriends.

The Tall Man.

BTW. I was out in el centro, the bars, last night, after a few hours handing with some amigos and amigas I found me something new fresh and ready to play, retrieved my car from the parking garage, told her I would return to pick her up in this exact spot within 8 minutes, so she was eagerly waiting for me and off we went high into the hills / mountains of las Palmas, very exciting and very different as I am fucking her with the view of night time Medellin as she is hanging onto a railing doing her doggy style. She wanted me to take her home to barrio popular or near there but I found a taxi for her and her 10 mil extra. It was raw and real and in the open, what an experience.

Well now this morning I have a headache and body-ache and the sniffles, perhaps I caught the virus not last night but in the past week. I need to rest my body and my gawd never in my life would think that I would say this but it needs a break from the continuous pussy.

[Nounce]

Do you think I just got drunk and decided to make shit up?? This was a news story a few years back. I am pretty sure the link was posted here or in the Cartagena thread. It is simple a DNA test, that is how you prove whose load it was, a paternity test. Maybe I did not clarify that the US courts got involved and ordered the paternity test.

One possibility is the Colombia court has determined the child support. Then it is easier to get US court to cooperate assume both countries are in some international convention. So this is very possible.

I think it will be difficult to get US court to cooperate without a Colombia court judgement. They will be overwhelmed by cases out of nowhere if they do. The other way is to sue in US court but that is going to be costly and US lawyers will want to be paid first in the form of retainer which will be a large sum of money by Colombia standard. I think this maybe what Surfer was thinking.

[Surfer500]

"This requirement does not apply to travelers entering the United States by land or sea".

The same statement can be found on the US Embassy to Mexico website. So my question is this: theoretically a person who was desperate could say fly into Tijuana and cross the border into San Diego and then catch a domestic flight to where ever in the US they were going without having to present a virus test? Does that sound plausible?

Right now with a USA Passport, Global Entry, Sentri, or a USA Passport Card, you can walk across the border from Tijuana to San Ysidro without a test. However, upon entering the Country they will scan your document and identify your travel history, and if with a Passport, they may go thru it, and notice you arrived in the Country by air into Tijuana raising some questions if not already identified in their data base. Technically though, the way the requirement is currently in effect, you wouldn't be breaking the law in my opinion as your entering the Country by land, not be air, hence I find it plausible.

[Surfer500]

Do you think I just got drunk and decided to make shit up?? This was a news story a few years back. I am pretty sure the link was posted here or in the Cartagena thread. It is simple a DNA test, that is how you prove whose load it was, a paternity test. Maybe I did not clarify that the US courts got involved and ordered the paternity test.

I can't ever remember seeing a post of yours that seemed fabricated, and without your clarification, it just seemed very odd, it sounded as though a hooker in Colombia could very easily upon discovering she was pregnant, just go back to the Hotel where she thought she got pregnant after what ever time elapsed, walk into the Hotel I'm assuming with legal intervention to obtain the information, than walkout out with the information on the guy, track him down in the United States, and then thru the USA legal system have the paternity test performed.

Seems highly unlikely that this scenario would ever playout, as most hookers wouldn't have the money or resources to track a guy down after discovering they were pregnant, after the guy had left the Country.

Maybe you can locate the story your referring too, and post it, and there is something we can learn from it.

[Osteoknot]

A lot of interesting shite goes on outside my hotel window on Avenida 70 near the Estadio Metro Station.

I am not a firearms expert but I think a recognize a pistol-grip 12 gauge shotgun and a. 357 magnum revolver, fingers on triggers.

[SubComm]

It is not only plausible, but it is true. I don't know who would go through all of that though. It would be simpler, easier, cheaper, and save more time to just get the test.

Sure it plausible. If you were and a set schedule and could not risk getting shutdown or quarantined in Colombia or wherever, why not? Some more logistics and probably cost involved but you could have 100 percent assurance you could get back when you wanted. Also remember, the PCR and COVID test apparently have a inaccuracies and are not definitely 💯 percent accurate.