Medellin Reports

[Paulie97]

However, if the gringo is just going about his business, the same as every other person in the area, he attracts little extra attention.

He attracts plenty of extra attention as compared to the locals by the mere fact that he's a gringo, who in their minds is more likely to have a fair amount of cash and a nice phone, and is less likely to put up a fight. We can inject anecdotes, like "well I've never had any problems" or what not, but at the end of the day the bad guys know who we are so be watchful and take precautions. Moseying around like the locals isn't enough.

P.S. Dangers increase with increased desperation and these are especially desperate times.

[LoveItHere69]

Police pickup truck with 4 people caught in the back. Big canopy covered truck had around 10 people caught by police. I saw them grab 3 people but no idea how they are picking the lucky ones. While others just walk around not bothered. Still some girls out and available. I took 2 repeats I saw wandering around today. No two girls tomorrow. Nearly had a heart attack.

[SavePros321]

Also when I sent an uber for my regular today I got a message from him asking if she had permission to move as there were a lot of police controls and stops. So this along with recent reports from Tall Man and it seems like its getting tougher to move either yourself or girls around at the moment during these shutdowns.

That is a true boner-killer.

Also, even though they have been doing lockdowns since the beginning of the month, the total ICU rate just continues to climb higher (now at just over 97%: https://dssa.gov.co/index.php?option...127&Itemid=352).

So nothing they have been doing there has been working. They are going to have to go back to total quarantine if they expect to get that number back below 80% even. Which is interesting because almost a year ago around this time they were lifting the quarantine.

[AsianKarma]

I am in Mde now and using SA, seems some want $150 usd and I laugh and most will take 200 mil or 250 mil I have not had a over night chica so can't say on that. I found a couple FB chicas that were happy with 150 plus taxi. So it really depends on the chica. Last night I gave 250mil to a 21 yo student who looked AWESOME in the photos but without makeup was just average. She did let me do everything bareback.

I also found another 19 yo student who I paid 300 mil for 2. 5 hrs and she did everything bareback too, but had to meet her in Gurane and pay for a hotel, so not as inexpensive as I hope but it was worth it to me. Will see her the night before I leave, since Gurane is only 20 min from the Rio Negro airport.

Jbg64 and Savepros321, thank you, this is very helpful. I'm mostly interested in how liberal and relaxed the women are outside of the US and a fair exchange and even more compelling, the sheer abundance of attractive women. So yeah, I'd pay whatever locally but I can only maybe find a couple of attractive providers in Colorado for any given month. Setting aside two weeks and this still not being enough time to visit with all of the available and available women is a dream.

[Silver Turtle]

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[Jbj64]

I am in Mde now and using SA, seems some want $150 usd and I laugh and most will take 200 mil or 250 mil I have not had a over night chica so can't say on that. I found a couple FB chicas that were happy with 150 plus taxi. So it really depends on the chica. Last night I gave 250mil to a 21 yo student who looked AWESOME in the photos but without makeup was just average. She did let me do everything bareback.

I also found another 19 yo student who I paid 300 mil for 2. 5 hrs and she did everything bareback too, but had to meet her in Gurane and pay for a hotel, so not as inexpensive as I hope but it was worth it to me. Will see her the night before I leave, since Gurane is only 20 min from the Rio Negro airport.

SA is an economy unto itself. A "fair offer" is going to be whatever that particular chica is asking for.

You said an SA girl just asked you for the equivalent of 400 USD. Do you really think she is going to go for your counter offer of 120 k-150 k COP (which is pretty standard outside of the SA economy)?

You also have to ask yourself what do you gain flying thousands of miles to pay a gringo tax of 400 USD to some chica the locals probably have for 80 k?

[Knowledge]

These are facts.

SA is an economy unto itself. A "fair offer" is going to be whatever that particular chica is asking for.

You said an SA girl just asked you for the equivalent of 400 USD. Do you really think she is going to go for your counter offer of 120 k-150 k COP (which is pretty standard outside of the SA economy)?

You also have to ask yourself what do you gain flying thousands of miles to pay a gringo tax of 400 USD to some chica the locals probably have for 80 k?

[SavePros321]

Hi,

What would this group recommend as a fair offer for SA girls for either a) the evening for a few hours including dinner, drinks, and the rest of the evening back at the apartment or b) the same as (a) but also spend the night?

An SA girl just asked for the equivalent to 400 USD for the overnight option. Just starting to have these discussions and will learn the market in Colombia but perhaps this group has thoughts as well.

SA is an economy unto itself. A "fair offer" is going to be whatever that particular chica is asking for.

You said an SA girl just asked you for the equivalent of 400 USD. Do you really think she is going to go for your counter offer of 120 k-150 k COP (which is pretty standard outside of the SA economy)?

You also have to ask yourself what do you gain flying thousands of miles to pay a gringo tax of 400 USD to some chica the locals probably have for 80 k?

[JohnnyO]

When I first arrived during the first weekend shutdown a couple of weeks ago I asked my regular driver to pick up my regular girl and he advised against as it could be problematic. I was able to get her an uber later.

Today über prices are almost triple the usual fare. Normal fare to pick up my girl around 8000, uber wanting 22000 due to high demand although this fluctuates every 10-15 mins or so. I prefer uber as card payments are easier and I am having issues with didi.

Also when I sent an uber for my regular today I got a message from him asking if she had permission to move as there were a lot of police controls and stops. So this along with recent reports from Tall Man and it seems like its getting tougher to move either yourself or girls around at the moment during these shutdowns.

[RiceRocket99]

I'll be in Medellin on Monday and staying for about 2 months (depending on how my apt search / purchase goes in Bello). It's been a few years since I hit up the Mansion, but it's nostalgic place for me. My first trip to Medellin 8 or so years ago, I stayed there and enjoyed it to the fullest. I still get their email updates / info. I'll have to hit up their Thursday pool parties (1 pm-8 pm) just to reminisce and splurge a little haha. It's 50 mil entrance fee with full access to their chicas albeit most have been around the block more times than not.

It'll be interesting convo if I decide to take a Mansion chica and she'll ask which room I'm staying, then I'll say I'm not staying in here or Poblado, she'll say where and I'll say Bello. She might respond me too haha. A Chino from Bello, they can call me Chino Bello, has a nice ring to it.

Anyways, paisas do house parties to the fullest during lockdown weekends. I was invited to a family party during last year's Christmas lockdown in Pachelly neighborhood of Bello. There were like 20 people maskless, both young and old just eating, drinking, cooking, partying from dawn to dusk to dawn back to dusk. Nothing like big party home cooked meals!

Also, if anyone is in MDE right now and wants to grab a beer at The Mansion or another club, hit me up via PM.

[JjBee62]

How could the locals distinguish the 10 percent of nice gringos from 90 percent of rude gringos? They don't like gringos in the area (or nation) though they may smile to your wallet.

For several years, your posts exhibited (cognitive / psychological) bias. You frequently described the Veracruz as the exciting area with many attractive girls. You almost always downplayed the danger and the number of robbed / assaulted gringos in the area. Your description of the Botero area is much closer to your fantasy / imagination and more distant from the reality. When other posters question about your description and offer more realistic picture, you accept their view and modify your position. But next day, you resume posts of the fantasy.

That's not been my experience at all. I'm a fairly obvious gringo and almost everywhere I've gone in Medellin people were warm and friendly to me. Neighbors in the 2 apartment buildings I lived in would chat with me. Cashiers in Carulla, Euro and Jumbo were pleasant to me. Other than the rare person giving me a nasty look, it always seemed like people were happy to see and talk with this big, happy gringo. It's a big reason why I keep coming back.

How do you tell the rude guy in a bar from the friendly guys in the bar? The rude guy is the one acting rude. Don't you think Colombians can recognize rude when they see it?

Veracruz is an exciting area and there are many attractive girls. Surfer has repeatedly, as have the other El Centro aficionados, told people that it requires patience. You might need to take 2 or 3 laps before you find what you want. That's been what I've seen. Although I don't partake from the street, I do enjoy walking the area and used to take 3 full laps every day, while getting in my daily exercise.

For the record, my full lap is from Botero Plaza, down the Veracruz alley, stroll Veracruz then walk down to Raudal, continue past all the print shops, then cover each street between Calle 53 and 54 until I get back to the metro tracks. From there, back to Botero for another lap.

From what I've seen, the thieves in El Centro don't look for gringos. They look for easy targets. If a gringo is walking around with a bulging wallet, with his nose glued to his latest and greatest iPhone, he's an easy target. If a gringo is being loud and obnoxious, he's an easy target.

However, if the gringo is just going about his business, the same as every other person in the area, he attracts little extra attention.

[AsianKarma]

Hi,

What would this group recommend as a fair offer for SA girls for either a) the evening for a few hours including dinner, drinks, and the rest of the evening back at the apartment or b) the same as (a) but also spend the night?

An SA girl just asked for the equivalent to 400 USD for the overnight option. Just starting to have these discussions and will learn the market in Colombia but perhaps this group has thoughts as well.

Sidenote: this is my second post and received a super helpful response on my first post which was much appreciated. Booked a nice private apartment with outdoor jacuzzi in walking distance to everything near Parque Lleras. Landing for my first time in Medellin on the 25th. Look forward to sharing a trip report afterwards.

[The Tall Man]

I hope Admin doesn't have an issue with these photos as this is some of what my buddies sent me today which I found amusing.

My buddy who is in Medellin was at ground zero today around 2 PM and has been in Medellin for the past two months and is at ground zero everyday in the early afternoon and this is what he said "place was packed. New faces everywhere. Most I've ever seen in El Centro today" and my response was, "not surprising since starting tomorrow it will be totally shutdown until Monday" and his response was, "Exactly".

What a sad state of affairs for everyone in Colombia.

Ditto that! I spent 3 or 4 hours and trolled all over yesterday Thursday afternoon, placed was packed and I too saw new faces but also many of the same girls out plying their trade in response to the 3 day curfew.

I got a few new numbers but did not partake as at about 4 PM I wanted to beat the traffic out of centro and glad I did as there was major traffic jams (tacos) and accidents all over the city.

I am having my ATF trying to come over this afternoon and stay a day or two. She is a special non-pro that I met a few years ago from where? Bello! Gawd got to love the cuties that bello puts out.

All is good at ground zero!

The Tall Man.

[Surfer500]

OK the story starts out, "There is this girl. " Judge a book by it's cover fits 90% of the time. I found my 10% wrong but in a good way. This girl sits / stands at the corner of the church fence. She is tall with long hair and short bangs. She is always on her phone and has an angry look about her. She is on the phone, talking to her friends, or sitting next to the vendor cart that is right there but facing away from the people waking by so you do not see her. I saw her off and on for 2 months I was here 7 months ago but never took her. Now back I have watched her for over a month and always wanted to take her. Swearing she would get on her phone during sex or turn into an evil princess and make demands of what I could not do. I finally did the frog thing. I jumped. She was on her phone walking up the hotel stairs and a few minutes into the room. I set her phone down. She never messed with it. She is a happy camper and fun. I have been with her twice. Last time she kicked my empty 5 liter water container on accident walking out the door. Next day I told her she kicked and dented my water container with her fat foot and owes me a new one. Then told her to put her fat feet on a diet. She is thin and could not give a shit what I say or do. She just laughed. I know others have wanted to take her but got the same vibe. Take her. Great personality and I do not know Spanish. So if you know Spanish you should have a better time. One small bad. Boobs are little soft. Not as firm as I had thought with her fit body.

A most entertaining read your post, and you've hit on a whole multitude of issues about the scene in El Centro and how un-expected and random things can be. You most definitely cannot judge a book by it's cover, and perceptions or vibes of how things might be with a woman you go with, and how things actually transpire in the room are typically unpredictable.

Unfortunately with the Pandemic, and up until a few weeks ago, Colombia has been one of the few wide open mongering destinations open on the Planet, hence the onslaught of mongers descending on Medellin along with their know it all attitudes as has been noticed by many others since last September.

As soon as things normalize if ever around the World including Asia, and other venues open back up, there will be less mongers in Colombia.

Colombia is not really a "user friendly" place to monger compared to other places, albeit inexpensive, with the main drawbacks being the language and danger factor which isn't really an issue in other mongering destinations.

[Silver Turtle]

I agree that the thugs outside of the Hotel know that gringos stay there and target them, yet the gringos that aren't treated well by the Hotel employees bring it on totally themselves, meaning their dicks to the staff and how they conduct themselves, hence the treatment at times you have described.

However, for the gringos that are respectful, give them like 2,000 peso tips (which is chump change), they will bend over backwards to accommodate you. The problem is that most gringos are arrogant and totally disrespectful, hence the treatment they get, and deserved..

How could the locals distinguish the 10 percent of nice gringos from 90 percent of rude gringos? They don't like gringos in the area (or nation) though they may smile to your wallet.

I have always had good experiences there, and it simply boils down to "people skills", and you do have to have some Spanish speaking skills.

For several years, your posts exhibited (cognitive / psychological) bias. You frequently described the Veracruz as the exciting area with many attractive girls. You almost always downplayed the danger and the number of robbed / assaulted gringos in the area. Your description of the Botero area is much closer to your fantasy / imagination and more distant from the reality. When other posters question about your description and offer more realistic picture, you accept their view and modify your position. But next day, you resume posts of the fantasy.