Medellin Reports

**MarquisdeSade1** · 04-19-21 22:45

You assume that a vaccine passport will only be used for those that want to travel abroad. It could just as well be used to discriminate against citizens of your own country. So because I chose not to take the vaccine and get the passport I am looked down upon and can only go to grocery stores on Tuesdays between 3 and 4 pm. It could be used as a mark of the beast of sorts where when you do not have it the mundane things you used to do with relative ease have been made very difficult.

How dare you challenge or disagree with these rabid partisan ideologues.

You ought to be whipped in public!!

**Ghosty101** · 04-19-21 21:58

Greetings fellow members,

I am a long time lurker, first time poster. I have done my fair share of RTFF. I am planning a trip in July and will follow up with a FR. Although it may be mechanical, I was wondering if someone could point me in the directions of twins or possibly triplets willing to do a 3/4 some. It's more of a bucketlist item than anything. Again, I am new and understand I don't have much to offer yet in the form of a FR, as this would be my first trip, but any help would be much appreciated. And while I'll be staying in Medellin and Cartagena for the majority of the trip (20 ish days) I would be willing to check out Bogota or Cali for the experience. Thanks again guys.

**Queens35** · 04-19-21 21:47

What is the rule during the full lockdown as far as grocery shopping?

During the weekend it's full lockdown, but they listed pico y cedula (Friday and Sunday are odd and Saturday is even). Can you go to the grocery store? TIA.

**SavePros321** · 04-19-21 21:03

Originally Posted by HotRockIt [View Original Post]

What's the word on places like New Life and massage parlors in centro? Its been awhile since I've seen anyone report on these places. Business as usual? Open? Closed? How have things changed during corona? Mask policy entering and mask policy alone with chicas in the room etc? Are the girls standoffish now? Whats up? Heading back in early June, if the govt doesn't screw it up more before I get there. Smh.

Lots of questions there.

Long story short: until the ICU rate there drops to at least below 85%, any further trip planning to Medellin in the next few months will be futile.

Info curtesy of Medellin Guru:

New Curfew Measures from President Duque

On April 4, President Duque announced measures for curfews and pico y cedula in Colombian municipalities depending on ICU occupancy from April 5 to April 19.

For cities with ICU occupancy between 50 and 69 percent optionally establish pico y cedula measures and establish curfews between midnight and 5:00 am

For cities with ICU occupancy between 70 and 79 percent establish pico y cedula measures and establish curfews between 10:00 pm and 5:00 am

For cities with ICU occupancy between 80 and 85 percent establish pico y cedula measures and establish curfews between between 8:00 pm and 5:00 am

For cities with an ICU occupancy greater than 85 percent establish pico y cedula measures and establish curfews between between between 6:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m.

On April 17, the ICU occupation in Antioquia was 97.39 percent out of a total of 1,420 ICUs available in Antioquia.

https://medellinguru.com/nightly-curfew-and-dry-law-medellin/

As of this post, the ICU rate has climbed to 97.82%:

https://dssa.gov.co/index.php?option...127&Itemid=352

**HotRockIt** · 04-19-21 20:02

A friend in MDE sent me this yesterday, thought I'd share it as it may be helpful to someone.

**HotRockIt** · 04-19-21 19:57

What's the word on places like New Life and massage parlors in centro? Its been awhile since I've seen anyone report on these places. Business as usual? Open? Closed? How have things changed during corona? Mask policy entering and mask policy alone with chicas in the room etc? Are the girls standoffish now? Whats up? Heading back in early June, if the govt doesn't screw it up more before I get there. Smh.

**Surfer500** · 04-19-21 19:15

Originally Posted by WorldTravel69 [View Original Post]

Report from Jesus in Cali, watching the News.

In Medellin there are no beds in the hospitals, they are 98% full.

450 people are waiting for a beds.

Besides no beds in the Hospitals, it has been reported in the local news that "ethical triage" is currently occuring in Medellin, meaning Doctors are now making decisions based on who get's an ICU bed when they are full, which is something Hospitals all over the World have been trying to avoid.

Imagine being a Doctor having to decide who gets an ICU bed between a young person and an old person, knowing that most probably one will not survive.

This situation is exactly what everyone had hoped to avoid, hence the lockdowns and curfews to try to avoid it.

It's so sad what's going on.

**World Travel 69** · 04-19-21 18:47

Report from Jesus in Cali, watching the News.

In Medellin there are no beds in the hospitals, they are 98% full.

450 people are waiting for a beds.

**Surfer500** · 04-19-21 18:11

Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]

What would happen if people without VP get in as every one else are vaccinated?
I wrote this 3 months ago. Use common sense and logic, one can come to the same conclusion. Vaccine is not a force shield

The debate continues.

Yesterday France announced that it would be letting Americans into the Country who have been vaccinated with out having to quarantine. And Greece and other Countries will be following suit as well to open up for the Summer.

Vaccine Passports, or whatever you want to call them, are already here.

We can debate this left and right, and whether they work, but at the end of the day, if you want to travel easily, internationally, and be admitted places your going to have to eventually get vaccinated.

I have a friend who didn't like the idea of getting vaccinated, yet he likes to travel, and got vaccinated so that he could travel, but also thinks the vaccines are a joke but realizes the forthcoming impediment (s) without being vaccinated.

So everyone will have to decide whether or not to get vaccinated as not being vaccinated will hamper International travel. However, for those who are not going to get vaccinated, yet have "false proof" of being vaccinated. I personally find this to be deplorable as someone in this situation might unknowingly be ill, or become ill, and infect someone.

Maybe somebody will go to ground zero today and report on a very nasty encounter so we can move on!

**Nounce** · 04-19-21 17:33

Originally Posted by BlackPage [View Original Post]

the vaccine passport in many countries will be a pass not only to travel, but also to attend mass events or other things. Highly democratic countries may pose additional tedious requirements to those who have not a green pass, without banning them.
I highly doubt I will be allowed to first enter, then do anything interesting in Singapore without such a pass, for example. And I do not expect Singaporean Authorities will care a damn f*ck if I complain because I feel discriminated LOL. Nobody will force ME to get a vaccine shot, but also nobody can force THEM to welcome me if I do not accept a vaccination.

What would happen if people without VP get in as every one else are vaccinated?

Originally Posted by Surfer500 [View Original Post]

Regardless, I think your in the minority, in that eventually.

I wrote this 3 months ago. Use common sense and logic, one can come to the same conclusion. Vaccine is not a force shield

Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]

As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected.

**Surfer500** · 04-19-21 17:16

Originally Posted by BlackPage [View Original Post]

Incidentally, I note that any time I applied to enter USA I had to declare that I was not planning to do anything illegal, anything *immoral* (gosh! that was a problem), and I was not infected with syphilis or other infectious diseases.

God forbid if upon entering Colombia I had to declare the activities I would be partaking in!

And I can just imagine you declaring that you would be prowling the bowels of El Centro after midnight looking for providers to service you in the back seat of your car.

And here we are today hotly debating vaccines.

When will this all be over and we can get back to the fun times before the Pandemic when are only worries are getting the Clap.

**Black Page** · 04-19-21 16:01

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

You assume that a vaccine passport will only be used for those that want to travel abroad. It could just as well be used to discriminate against citizens of your own country. (....)
Ask the Jews that were in the Holocaust, the Cambodians under the Polpot regime, or the apartheid era South Africans how this vaccine passport thing could go very left.

You are too intelligent to not recognize ex post the enormity of your reasoning.
1) Jews and Cambodians were not bearing an infectious disease.
2) The plan here is to prevent those who are not vaccinated to enter my country, not to mass kill them.

And yes, the vaccine passport in many countries will be a pass not only to travel, but also to attend mass events or other things. Highly democratic countries may pose additional tedious requirements to those who have not a green pass, without banning them.
I highly doubt I will be allowed to first enter, then do anything interesting in Singapore without such a pass, for example. And I do not expect Singaporean Authorities will care a damn f*ck if I complain because I feel discriminated LOL. Nobody will force ME to get a vaccine shot, but also nobody can force THEM to welcome me if I do not accept a vaccination.

Incidentally, I note that any time I applied to enter USA I had to declare that I was not planning to do anything illegal, anything *immoral* (gosh! that was a problem), and I was not infected with syphilis or other infectious diseases.

**Paulie97** · 04-19-21 15:59

Originally Posted by Rextor [View Original Post]

It takes a truly special type of mind to unironically compare people judging you for not getting the vaccine to the Holocaust. Bravo.

We can only hope that you are being facetious.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/memes/godwins-law/

P.S. Don't forget that he also got Polpot in there. Give him extra points for that. LOL.

**PolloNegro** · 04-19-21 08:00

Amongst us, would you value his information, or would you still have arrogance bias against his research if it does not agree with your beliefs. Men are going to be men and with that said, let's stop beating a dead horse. You can either get the vaccination or not, wait and see what the ramifications are in the future, but for the love of mongering, let us not argue about vaccines and covid if there are no readily credentialed scientist amongst us! Pollo Negro is out!

**Rextor** · 04-19-21 04:20

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

You assume that a vaccine passport will only be used for those that want to travel abroad. It could just as well be used to discriminate against citizens of your own country. So because I chose not to take the vaccine and get the passport I am looked down upon and can only go to grocery stores on Tuesdays between 3 and 4 pm. It could be used as a mark of the beast of sorts where when you do not have it the mundane things you used to do with relative ease have been made very difficult. Ask the Jews that were in the Holocaust, the Cambodians under the Polpot regime, or the apartheid era South Africans how this vaccine passport thing could go very left.

It takes a truly special type of mind to unironically compare people judging you for not getting the vaccine to the Holocaust. Bravo.