Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Spidy]

For Vagabundo. I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.

Okay, yah lost me on the connection to Vagabundo. Most of the pics from Vagabundo are IMHO, pretty Brasileiras with terrific bronzed bodies.

Not my type. Bundinha. Not bundao.

I didn't think so either.

I have observed in many threads in ISG of guys getting offended if a poster has a different view from them. I prefer brancas to negras, why should a poster be offended because of that?

Okay, I get it now...this is one of your brancas with a super hot bronze tan. Wow, she's pretty hot! Carry on!

[Member #4729]

Do any of us actually think these women actually say to themselves, "This ugly gringo is painfully pounding the hell out of me, but I sure do respect the fact that he haggled with me over 50 real?" Be realistic, respect is earned through action. If you want to haggle for the lowest price, go wild. If you want to pay a little more to get better service or because you don't want to haggle, then do it. Be smart and don't overpay, but don't listen to other mongers who get mad about the fact that they can't lowball WGs because others have ruined the market. Imagine a guy calling out other men for their successful careers and wealth. We used to have a name for those people in life; losers.

This was hilarious to read, thanks. Seems like IG boards spend way too much time on this subject, and people get into too many arguments about it. WYGD?

[Vagabundo1]

Not my type.

Bundinha.

Not bundao.

Didn't even click on the small version.

I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.

[The Cane]

I had a Barra vip girl come over yesterday afternoon, she was from Curitiba, German and Polish blood. She was a natural blonde absolutely beautiful and stunning and one of the finest GDP's I've ever seen, worth every real, I might even call her today again. There's plenty of girls in Rio that will go for your prices but not fresh quality like this. Locals pay the same price for these girls and make up most of their business. Ive had 2 from this site this trip all excellent gfe, actually this girl yesterday after we were finished she kept hanging out, what a sweetheart. Plus I paid at the end.

This is all definitely more in line with my experience with Rio Sex Site as well. I met a gorgeous natural blonde in Sampa from Curitiba too by the way with deep blue eyes. These girls do move around. Wonder if we may have enjoyed the same one?

[Bearsi]

I'm coming down in September with a friend who has never been to Brazil (only Colombia) We'll be staying 1 week in SP and 1 week in RJ. I heard it gets a bit cold in RJ around that time compared to when I went in January. Any other things I should know about September so I can prepare? We'll be getting a villa or something like that (any recommendations for some hidden gems? Greatly appreciated) in Copa or Ipanema (barra I liked the many options for cheap luxury condos / villas but the travel from the beach / termas girls is a huge miss for me, I like to step out and feel the sun and sand without planning a whole routine and terma girls are always down to fuck after their shift if they struck out that night and it's a pain to wait 30+ minutes for them to get to barra, prive girls are ok but not very GFE and are pretty mechanical to me IMO).

Can't wait to get back to Rio to see my terma girls who have been messaging me since I left in January! A much needed gateway to paradise!

[Bearsi]

Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.

Yeah they saw you as easy money. I messaged a few and I got some for 300-400 are incalled / outcall + Uber. The thing about the online girls is that they have a pretty stable client base, alot of them stay in Transamerica which has a bunch of guys going in and out, they have to time their schedule which can be all over the place sometimes since they can be from out of state / city and they have things set up days or weeks in advance with other guys. They have to be business minded so they can maximize their earning potential. It sucks but not all of them are like this tho. Talking to a few of them I did gather that they liked when the guy spoke some porto (because you know how girls love to talk) sex is better when you can easily communicate as well. Also depends how good looking you are / personality. I had a girl charge me 500+uber for 1 HR and then the next time she charged 500 for 1. 5 HR no uber so if they like you after the first meeting they can be a little more easy on the pricing since they know you aren't a creep or anything like that which is also one of their risks compared to a terma or prive where there are some security.

I found the best pricing are the termas like 4 x4 and solarium (centaraus is also good but pretty expensive compared to the rest but I would try to go at least once and get as many numbers. I met a really hot cool chick and most of the girls were pretty friendly) and some prives. The girls at the termas are super chill and it seems like they are in it for a good time and I got a few overnight for 200 R who were real hot. So it's a cat and mouse game of finding the right girls because some do overcharge.

That being said I wouldn't let 500 R be the reason not to bang a hottie you want. Some posters will scoff at your money management but at the same time it's your money to do with and you could never return to Brazil ever again for whatever reason so get the most out of it. 500 R is high but it's not absurd like 1000 for 1 HR. 500 R is like $90 and to me that's a cheap date you go on a girl with you are trying to bang not including your time. In Barcelona you pay close to 100 to 150 Euro, Montreal you pay $125-140 and London you pay 100-150 Pounds all much more expensive. There are some girls that charge 200 R that I wouldn't fuck for free. I know what I like and I will pay the price (again not absurd prices) because I'm on vacation for 2 weeks and I want to bang as many hot girls as I can manage (the FOMO is always the worst sometimes).

Don't hesitate to PM some posters as well there are some who like to take some newbies under their wings and you can go thru a crash course in a few days.

[Turgid]

I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.

[Rio Bob]

Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.

I had a Barra vip girl come over yesterday afternoon, she was from Curitiba, German and Polish blood. She was a natural blonde absolutely beautiful and stunning and one of the finest GDP's I've ever seen, worth every real, I might even call her today again. There's plenty of girls in Rio that will go for your prices but not fresh quality like this. Locals pay the same price for these girls and make up most of their business. I’ve had 2 from this site this trip all excellent gfe, actually this girl yesterday after we were finished she kept hanging out, what a sweetheart. Plus I paid at the end.

[Bearsi]

Has anyone tried this placed? I checked out some reviews on GPARENA from locals but seems like it's a legit massage place that offers Nuru, handjobs and maybe oral if you persist. The prices are good and girls look even better. Onix as well I heard from another poster was pretty legit with some handjob action. I didn't hit any Terapias last time I went to rio in January and went to go to some in September!

Thanks.

[The Cane]

That website doesn't sound good. I don't trust the look and GFE service level of any online girls anyway. For your information, the average salary for a white collar professional in Brazil is only around 4-5,000. These girls are asking an absurd amount to spread their legs.

In Sao Paulo, if you meet a girl at Scandallo, the minimum for 1 hour outcall to your place would be 500+uber. I have had pernoite for between 1,000 to 1,500, but I didn't find pernoite to be cost effective. Even though they stay all night, they don't allow me to fuck them more than around 1 hour. After around 1 hour, no more fucking allowed, only light kissing and cuddling allowed. Plus, they all want payment in advance which I am leery of.

Therefore, now I tend to stay clear of Scandallo girls. I find the clinicas in Sao Paulo to be the most cost effective way to play. I can fuck for 1 hour, pay after the session, then take a break to stroll around to eat something or to go back to my apt to recuperate and then back to the clinicas for the next session.

I will venture out to Rio in June to check out the pussy situation in Rio. I will find an Airbnb in Barra area to stay in since I read that this is an upscale area. Hope I can find the situation to be comparable or better and Sao Paulo.

I'm not a big fan of the escort scene, but I have had good luck with Rio Sex Site. The thing is, you will find some of the same girls as on BarraVIP. I guess some of it comes down to the luck of the draw. As they say, YMMV.

https://www.riosexsite.com/

[Xpartan]

Sage advice for those looking to rent cars, boats, motorcycles, bicycles...etc.

At the very lease one should, take extra care when filling out the existing damages on the top, right and left sides of the "car diagram section" of the rental agreement.

Fortunately, the buggy was a friend of mine, that was used while I visited in Buzios.

They're very beat up. At one point, a half of my muffler fell off and began dragging on the road. I called, and a guy with a new buggy showed up in 10 minutes and took away the old one. Of course, it didn't even occur to me to record any damages for the second buggy, LOL.

[Member #4729]

Seems like lately on this board and the Medellin forum there has been a lot of chatter (much of it sour) about prices. I will say to the people that consistently find themselves quoted outrageously high prices, consider that it could be an unflattering zapp photo- or the fact that you don't even have one- that's throwing things off. Prices that are ridiculously high (outliers) usually indicate something more than simple market forces.

Is it even possible to have a coherent discussion about what is considered a "fair" price? So much depends on contingencies and incidental factors. Ex- is it the end of the night in the Casino on Jaco or the beginning? Prices are half (or less) of what they are at 9 pm at 1:50 am. Your appearance and manner: do you look like a simp, a sucker, are you frightening, average, disabled, roided up? Might she actually want to have sex with you? The relative market value of the girl. What services she's willing to provide. What services you are requesting. The state of mind of the girl. Is it near her period? Her luteal phase? Is she ovulating? Do you remind the her of someone she knows? Is she having a bad day? Does she need to pay rent? Is she a bad negotiator? A shrewd businesswoman? How many days / weeks / years has she been at it? Does she feel herself getting old and willing to take less? Even though the girls are aware of the known going rate in a given market, there is always a spread between the bid and ask. Sometimes this spread is small, sometimes it's large enough to drive a bus through.

The Price Anxiety is that there is just one fair market price and that some pikers are throwing it off at the expense of more shrewd hobbyists who are in possession of knowledge of the "true" price. This is the great travesty being committed that seems to have so many in a sour mood. To be clear, I think in a basic sense this is true, and will always be true. However, please remember that price is not fixed- it is dynamic, it goes up and down based on sentiment, which is always changing. There are distinct markets where sentiments are divergent. Why are we even leaving our home countries if not for the arbitrage provided by tapping into another marketplace with different market dynamics? But, if you believe in classical economic theory (at least the Austrian / Chicago School), when a market becomes overpriced, it will eventually adjust down. Commodities traders always say the best cure for high prices is high prices. The bubble does not last, can not last. And if it does, the sad part will be that it was not in fact a bubble but a market shift and that you will need to find a new market just as you did when you left the US, etc. For the moment, in my mind, seems like the scene here in Rio has a fair price. And if it didn't, I'd just leave and go somewhere else.

[Vagabundo1]

If you're not at Transamerica then use gparena.net reviewed girls.

Barravipsrio girls started there for 150.

I can point to several examples.

Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.

[TheDerilious]

Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.

It seems like Rio outcall is starting to get the American infection of charging more for outcall. I can generally understand it but I would argue that these women should be considered lower volume, rather than higher volume escorts where the time traveling is wasted earning potential (obviously, these women could be high volume as well).

I'm not an expert, but I would recommend meeting them first for an hour before pulling out the pernoite request. If they don't know you, they will be less likely to quote you a good price and would be much more hesitant to spend an extended time with a person they don't know. WGs do have safety concerns and longer stays with strangers are obviously more of a situation that could be unsafe or, more importantly, leave them open for scamming. Imagine spending a whole night with a dude who scams you; you get scammed AND you lose the earning potential for the wasted time. Higher initial costs for pernoite is definitely used to sucker morons who actually think they are paying to stay up all night, but it could be a mechanism to weed out scammers and insincere people. That's just my two cents; I know a lot of guys on monger boards get mad but I do feel like we forget how things look from the perspective of WGs. When we get scammed, we usually just lose some money or have a bad experience. When these women get into trouble, it could be much more dangerous. IMO, if you have a good experience with the girl on the first meeting (treat her well, be respectful, don't be a total slob / douche, and the all-important "chemistry" you will get a good pernoite price. It may not be the 500 pernoite you want, but it will definitely be better than 2-3 k. YMMV. I've had some WGs do a "free" pernoite after a great first meetup as long as we had a real date night on the town. Dinner, walk on the beach, etc.

One other bone to pick but it gets old listening to mongers complain about how WGs are laughing at us for overpaying. Yes, when morons pay 10 x the normal asking price, you deserve to be laughed at. This is the same as stupid foreigners who pay $20 USD to rent a chair from a vendor or $5 dollars for a coconut. But honestly, WGs are not laughing at mongers who pay a higher price for service, within reason. Going to a terma and paying the going rate, or using an online escort who charges more is not grounds for the insinuation that these men should be laughed at. Like it or not, higher cost will on average lead to higher returns. It often correlates with better looks, service, and experience. Could those same things be had at cheaper prices? Sure, but it's not called "finding a needle in a haystack" for a reason. On all of my mongering trips (first time in Brazil upcoming), I have tried cheap and expensive options. Overall, the more expensive options tended to have a higher floor for quality than cheaper options.

Do any of us actually think these women actually say to themselves, "This ugly gringo is painfully pounding the hell out of me, but I sure do respect the fact that he haggled with me over 50 real?" Be realistic, respect is earned through action. If you want to haggle for the lowest price, go wild. If you want to pay a little more to get better service or because you don't want to haggle, then do it. Be smart and don't overpay, but don't listen to other mongers who get mad about the fact that they can't lowball WGs because others have ruined the market. Imagine a guy calling out other men for their successful careers and wealth. We used to have a name for those people in life; losers.

[Vagabundo1]

Rihanna noir is 400 pernoite for me.

Found her at dark side casas north of av presidente vargas.

I pick her up at central at 5 and we Uber back to transamerica.

You can also train them to take the bus to you. The guanabara on av America's.

3-4 pops a night and again in the morning.

Bare.

Three holes.

Many not all Barravipsgirls socialize at av gastao senges 185 for breakfast at olegario maciel 135/134 at night, and live at av gastao senges 395.

And I've got a list of similar lined up.

It's stupid to overpay in termas. Just get numbers and set it up outside. Don't pay the ask. Make a market, get 5-10 numbers and you will get your bid filled. Contact them a day in advance more. Be the hunter not the hunted, be the bat not the ball, gain and keep the initiative.

At these exchange rates Uber costs are negligible.

These are all shots of Rihanna Noir, two from Motel Carbonara in Bangu, where I paid 250 for 3 hours one Sunday after hiking.

Two from my room at Transamerica, where FLCNHvy, the Sikh Canadian from UBC, who was paying 1000 for "pernoites" from 4 x 4 that ended at 02 h with a girl with a rash on her ass came up to me and said high yesterday as he's still playing the longer and better cost per fuck game out here.

One from her social which has her nice ass out at Grumari beach where the girls go when they want to actually go to the beach with their real friends. Which one of our more recent contributors took a good day trip with information from this board..