Rio de Janeiro Reports

**Vagabundo1** · 06-02-21 01:24

The Dude Abides.

https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c

I have wasted my valuable sperm giving Nina Deponca a enema for the second time tonight, and have reached a state of total enlightenment.

I plead guilty, and throw my self at the mercy of the court.

I only want peace, peace for all humans, and living creatures, aliens too.

Originally Posted by TheDerilious [View Original Post]

The literal presence of people like Vagabundo in Brazil has already broken the system and we act like it's only today's high rollers that have messed things up.

**TheDerilious** · 06-02-21 00:02

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

The inflation argument would be done with a basket of goods. If the basket of goods has only gone up 20%, why would prostitution have gone up a whopping 500%? The USA has nothing to do with what is going on in Brazil. The average Brazilian male is not paying 1000 reais per night for a chick that would be in Mabs as a Mabs chick would attempt to charge a foreigner. The average salary of workers in Brazil matters because Brazilian men with Brazilian salaries are who their primary customers are. These men are not paying 1 month's salary to be with a chick the way some foreigners are coming along and paying that.

It is like locals have been fishing peacefully at a pond forever using fishing poles. Most foreigners will go down to the pond and fish the same way the locals are. Then comes a foreigner that decides he wants to fish with dynamite. Then another. Then another. Soon the locals change ponds and any other foreigner that comes to the old pond will have to bring dynamite or he is leaving fishless.

Go look at PA, gparena, or any other "common man's" site if you want want you to understand prices. The vast majority of those prices are much lower than the 1000 are pernoite and substantially so. That is what the normal local man will use; just like the majority of Americans use Backpage (or equivalent) or some rub-and-tug massage joints for their escorting. Only a specific subset of wealthy men are using the higher priced options. There is a sizable upper crust in Brazil that does have the funds for that and it's not like every person in Brazil is some destitute bum with only 100 reais to his name. This is the same as every country in South America or SEA contrary to what some posters have mentioned here where Brazil is supposedly some sort of unique paradise of mongering where women like living in poverty and screwing strangers for baubles. Increased prices do heavily correlate.

Economics is not a bubble. Three major innovations have happened in the past 50 ish years to push prices up.

1) The vast growth of middle-class wealth in the developed world (US, China, EU, etc.) in contrast to the rest of the world has created even more disposable income for mongers to spend.

2) Global access to cheap travel that allows said mongers to spend their money. Flights, hotels, tourist economies, etc. Are much more ubiquitous than before. Just 30 years ago, it was much more expensive, complex, and confusing for people to travel somewhere. It used to require travel agencies to do all of that, or a very adventurous soul. Now, you can book flights, hotels, and itineraries in minutes, all in the language you understand because governments incentivize your dollars.

3) Internet and general mongering knowledge has increased. On the one hand, men are much more knowledgeable about traveling so they can engage more easily in the hobby. On the other hand, professional women can judge their worth on global scales, understand their "worth", and make decisions using that knowledge.

Your metaphor is missing an important point. The fish prefer getting blown up with dynamite rather than slowly killed by the fishing hook. So the smart and fast fish will take the best option available to them. The old and slow fish will continue to be available for all those who wish to do it the traditional way. I guess the argument many would make is that we should create closed off countries where the none of the fish ever learn about dynamite and so we can continue hooking them to death. But I argue that this is a stupid argument, economically and ethically. This is the kind of argument slavers made in the 1400's when they were "uplifting" African "savages" during colonization. Sure they were slaves or paid cents for a day's work, but at least we gave them running water right? They should be happy with that.

The literal presence of people like Vagabundo in Brazil has already broken the system and we act like it's only today's high rollers that have messed things up. Do you think the locals didn't notice when gringos started staying in Brazil for months on end spending 200 reais a night for prime bunda? Did you think the majority of the locals have the capability to pay 200 pernoite every night to pound 19 year olds? The way I see it and I'm not calling anyone out in particular (this is a common argument on local American boards as well), it feels like a lot of people get mad because they want the system broken; living or visiting areas where they can enjoy top-tier women at a price that the majority of the locals cannot afford. But, they want the system rigged so they don't have to compete with those who have more than them (everybody wants a Ferrari but ignores that Hyundai is great and fairly priced). Still, that's the best example of late stage capitalism that we are in right now, so it all makes sense. The funniest part is that I have never argued to spend 5 x market price or not search for bargains, yet the smallest indication that increased prices are not the sole responsibility of flippant morons making it rain causes a lot of heartache on this board.

**Vagabundo1** · 06-01-21 23:01

With 4 days, stay at IBIS and do Perola Negra, on Metro at Jardim Oceanico.

PN is in the shadow of IBIS, within rifle range, so you can easily get the girls to your room at IBIS from Perola Negra.

Ksportal (google it) has 50 r per noite lux suites, with all the amenities.

It is true Transamerica is a 3 d rate run down shit motel, but it is priced for aspiring working girls, and some of the landlords and administrators, I am sure will accept payment with a girls holes, as always.

Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]

Perhaps checkout Vagabundo's recommended Perola Negra.

**Vagabundo1** · 06-01-21 22:57

That is correct sir.

Originally Posted by RioBob [View Original Post]

Interesting, I'm sure the address of this club is 400 praia do Pepe? I.

**Vagabundo1** · 06-01-21 22:51

Natasha Rios of bradmontana.

I have this little piece of bundinha lined up.

https://www.xvideos.com/video6192149...m_vinny_burgos

So happy.

**Vagabundo1** · 06-01-21 22:49

Club Fifty Cent Wednesdays. Perola Negra, Ave de Pepe 400.

Nina Deponca Pernoite 300.

Thank you sir!

Nina Deponca, my personal sperm donor nurse is over for my nightly milking.

Yeah, that place has so much potential, now that metro moves people right there.

Wednesdays, we can have hip hop nights, which music the girls will be more down with. Indeed, all the headliners from Rock in Rio can come and take turns getting their balls licked.

We can press play on Hip Hop radio on those nights.

Look, all members of the board here, including el Cane my sometime foil, are greatly valued. We move on, and play some fifty cent, and shoot our frustrations up the tight anal rings of carioca butt sluts.

We watched the new Zawaadi scene -- Mandingoblack call your office!! Haha -- and now she is making moqueca, just like in a Jorge Amado novella, by the Atlantic.

Her father has / had covid. He is alright, god be thanked. Apparently onion in water along with garlic in water and other vegetables and a daily fruit smoothie in a blender are the way the man overcame.

Peaceout.

Originally Posted by BrasilNut [View Original Post]

This is an all around solid post.

**Vagabundo1** · 06-01-21 22:26

Club Lonesome Dove Tuesdays. Ave de Pepe 400.

Yeah, MichaelSamuel and I rolled in wearing Vasco shirts (him)!

We are going to do Lonesome dove nights complete with a Veteran Country Band with some pyscho PTSD Iraq and Afghan Veterans drumming for Garth Brooks covers (or at least Garth Brooks radio on music. google.com), with all the girls dressed in leather biker chaps with butt plugs, and cowboy hats, can you fucking imagine how many cowboys there would be on the DFW to GIG flight every night after this Covid shit with rich world politicians fucking men up the ass with their silly strap on restrictions!

The Brazilians will sing country if there are dollar bills, and better yet Benjamin Franklins attached!

Originally Posted by RioBob [View Original Post]

Interesting, I'm sure the address of this club is 400 praia do Pepe? If so it used to be called Club 400 and I used to go there on weekends when it turned into a swing club called Henri Club which was very good at the time. In close to 20 years there may have been 4 posts about Club 400 and all were bad don't waste your time, good to see someone has turned it around.

Same goes for Barra, in close to 20 years maybe there have been 5 posts of guys staying there because they were on business and never once gave it a good thumbs up for mongering, glad to see you've turned this around.

**Member #4698** · 06-01-21 20:53

I was at Perola Negra on a Saturday in early May from 20 h to around 21:45 h and it was DEAD. I spoke with 3 girls and their blond spokes girl (average face, but a troubled body) said the place gets lively later after midnight. I asked her, "you mean more customers and more girls" and she said yes. I have no reason to doubt her or Vagabundo's glowing reports. Some places are for late night and Perola Negra looked like it could be good. The bar area is large, there is a mini stage for a dancer or two, and the rooms upstairs are large. They just need to fill the place with more / better girls. But, I won't write the place off until I see what it is like after midnight.

But 8 pm on Saturday night is way too early for this bar. After seeing how dark and empty it was I should have ubered crosstown to Solarium, a friendly terma that I really like, but for some reason I stuck around and even bought a round of Tequilas for the 3 lonely girls and myself. Then I took the youngest one of the three, the only fuckable girl in the place at that time, a 20 year old mixed race girl, upstairs for a romp. She had great tits, an average face, and a big butt. Not my type and the sex was nothing to write home about. Oh well, it was totally my fault. I know better. LOL. I should have ubered.

In any case, when I left Perola Negra around 9:45 pm. It was still dead with only 5 plain girls around and 2 or 3 customers besides myself. I had 2 options: 1) salvage the night and head across town to 4 x4 or Solarium (my favorite) or 2) go get a big fat juicy steak. I opted for the big fat juicy steak. My normal lust and desire seemed to have deserted me on this particular night. The next night (Sunday night) I was on fire and I had one of my best sessions of the trip with one of my favorite repeat Barra VIP girls. We broke new ground that night as she decided to turn off her meter.

**Rio Bob** · 06-01-21 20:27

Originally Posted by Vagabundo1 [View Original Post]

The best terma in RJ is Perola Negra, precisely because it is on the beach. The talent in Perola Negra overlaps with 4 x 4, the girls go back and forth.

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Interesting, I'm sure the address of this club is 400 praia do Pepe? If so it used to be called Club 400 and I used to go there on weekends when it turned into a swing club called Henri Club which was very good at the time. In close to 20 years there may have been 4 posts about Club 400 and all were bad don't waste your time, good to see someone has turned it around.

Same goes for Barra, in close to 20 years maybe there have been 5 posts of guys staying there because they were on business and never once gave it a good thumbs up for mongering, glad to see you've turned this around.

**The Cane** · 06-01-21 18:25

Originally Posted by Vagabundo1 [View Original Post]

The last time I was in Perola Negra was with Mr E. We popped our heads in after having gone to VM, where we both sessioned. Mr. E used the Novo Canario hotel, thanks to good, useful information (in contrast to almost all the posts) from Sperto about the Novo Canario Hotel. VM is also the local of Mosaico, which again, IMHO, and based on 27 trips and a solid 14 months of being on the ground now, is a source of the best talent. You can session in Mosaico for 140. You can get a room at the Novo Canario for 50. To his credit, Mr. E has actually been here, repeatedly, and as Kipling said, "Or walk with Kingsnor lose the common touch.

I would also note that the veteran monger Mr. E chose to relocate from Barra to Copa in favor of a hotel that I also like and recommend. The Astoria Palace:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2562608

**Member #4698** · 06-01-21 17:39

Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]

In your setup, she likes the one who speaks Porto.

Yes, without a doubt speaking the local lingo is a huge asset. Google translate is a remarkable innovation, but it is vastly inferior to being able to carry on a spontaneous conversation with a girl.

There are other little thought experiments we can play that come up with interesting results like:

A) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount. Customer #1 can turn a girl on, and it takes him 45 minutes to reach orgasm. Customer #2 cums in under 3 minutes. Which customer do working girls prefer? It depends on the girl, but I imagine a lot of girls might prefer Customer #2. Does that surprise anyone?

B) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount meet a girl for the first time in a Terma or bar. Customer #1 tells the girl he is an expat living and working in RJ. Customer #2 tells the girl he is a tourist who just arrived, and he is planning to spend 2 weeks in RJ. Which type of customer do working girls prefer. Again, the answer depends on the girl. Some girls will prefer the tourist because they think he will pay more. Some girls will prefer the expat because they see him as a possible long-term customer. It all depends.

So, what's my point? Well, nothing really except to say all kinds of people come to the P4P marketplace and no two people are the same. So, when 2 people come to a private arrangement it's between them and sometimes them and the bordello and it does not matter what anyone else thinks. Do what you like.

**WyattEarp** · 06-01-21 17:37

Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean [View Original Post]

My trip is coming up soon and I'll be getting my PCR test to get ready. Here's the list I've compiled so far. Please let me know if I'm missing any "must try" locations. I did post this in the SP forum, thought I'd post here, too. This list is in the context of most of my time being in SP and 4 nights in Rio.

Rio

Solarium.

Termas 65.

Dolce vita.

Mabs.

Terma 65 (whiskeria 65) - close to 4 x4...

With only four nights in Rio, I would cut down your termas list. I think most of us would advise against running around trying to hit all the major termas. Find a place where you like the vibe, the girls and enjoy yourself. I think 4 x 4 would be a great place to start. If you want to hit other Centro termas nearby, then fine you're in Centro. Solarium is good as well. Centaurus and Monte Carlo are more expensive, generally smaller and cater to tourists who don't want to bother leaving Copa and Ipanema. Save them for last if you need an easy, convenient session.

Perhaps checkout Vagabundo's recommended Perola Negra.

**Jazzy Daddy** · 06-01-21 17:22

That's the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!

Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]

In your setup, she likes the one who speaks Porto.

**Member #4729** · 06-01-21 14:30

Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]

I think another reason is because it is an efficient operation so the girls can work more and make more money.

Ah Germans- nothing if not efficient.

**Xpartan** · 06-01-21 05:51

Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]

And now since it is agreed that we are all customers, I would like to conduct a little thought experiment: Imagine a working girl, any working girl, has 2 repeat American customers with very similar good looks, affable personalities, and they are both decent in bed. Customer #1 pays the girl her absolute minimum and does her during her off hours. Customer #2 pays the girl her Barra Vip's asking price and does her in prime time. In addition, Customer #2 takes the girl out to restaurants and occasionally buys her gifts like expensive designer perfume. So, which customer do you think the girl likes better? If you think the girl likes Customer #1 better, you do not understand women.

In your setup, she likes the one who speaks Porto.