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  1. #46459
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyO  [View Original Post]
    I went to Lleras for the first time the other night just to see it and as someone else said I heard lots of English around me. Definitely not my scene these type of gringo places, but honestly some really stunning girls walking around. Got quoted 200-300 k and they would absolutely not budge on that, I chuckled to myself. The other day I had 2 girls at my place for 2 hours for 200 k total. Got the number of 2 girls and the next day they were still not budging on price. They wanted to know why I wanted to pay less and I tried to explain to them I do not want to pay them little money but I am just not paying Poblado prices because I don't need to.
    But, there's a clown on here that claims he can get them for 30 k. I really want to see it happen, they'll laugh at him LOL.

  2. #46458

    Far from the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Safado007  [View Original Post]
    100% agree on this!

    I honestly cannot understand what should be so special about el Centro. I was living in Medellin for a couple years and am still visiting from time to time. Anyone who says the quality of girls in Centro is the same as in La Isla / Fase 2 club has no idea what he is talking about. Centro girls quality is usually low and what I saw in the recent videos posted here, not much has changed. Yes they are cheap and it might be possible to find some cute ones. Also true that some are going to Lleras at night trying to charge 10 times as much as during the day in Centro. I prefer Top quality girls 8's and above and these usually cost 200-800 k and no way can be found at Centro. Some here now probably calling me stupid, mostly those who never been to Isla because they do not want or cannot afford.
    You fail in this debate because you think of women as Products in a shop.

    If you just purchased a computer at Best Buy and spent $1000, and I claim to just have paid $100 for the exact same model at Walmart Brand new, obviously I'd be lying.

    Well Gentlemen women aren't products. This is a personal hobby / business they do using their body, and yes I know it's the obvious but sometimes you all forget with so many crazy things I read on here and other places about hookers and pricing debates. So she can choose to charge 300 k one spot and 30 k another spot, and FREE even for some. Now I know many of you just flip out and losing your minds when guys mention free here. So I won't tell you about my free stories LOL.

    I'm going to keep repeating this and support those who's experienced the same. I've met 8's, 9's and 10's in Centro charging 30 k, and I've tried asking them to come to my apt / hotel and price went up to 250-300 k or more, same if I see them in Parque Lleras. Reason is simple, when they're hot they're in high demand in the streets and can get even more money charging 30-60 k and upcharging for extra stuff like BBBJ, anal etc. This is coming from them and I was shocked when one claimed this, that she can make more money in street as she turned down a 200 k offer I made her to come to my hotel. It was around 7 pm which was prime time for her. As soon as I walked away someone grabbed her and she disappeared LOL.

    It's a different dynamic in the street and I can see why also they could make more money. Plus she doesn't have to spend a hundred in a pretty dress, hair or too much make up. Economically it's smart. So when you think like that on their point of view, you'll see why those dimes exist in the street. Besides, Colombia is a country if 50+Million citizens, and only a few hundred women visit Poblado or Parque Lleras and those clubs you fake ballers call fancy. Meaning the majority of beautiful women or the real cream of the crop of the country remain unseen, with the locals or the Elites, Celebs, or work in private. Just don't be too closed minded.

  3. #46457

    Misleading

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    I respect all types of mongering. Whether it's centro or poblado or strip clubs to casas.

    But stop with this misleading information.

    Yes on occasion you'll see a centro girl try her luck in Poblado.

    But you're not going to see a hardened Poblado girl take 30 k to sell her pussy.

    She'll start at 200 usd and might work her way to 200 mil if she's desperate.

    Centro girls don't work their way up to La Isla. Maybe it has happened on rare occasions but it doesn't work that way.

    The higher end girls work at La Isla right now. It's wall to wall packed on weekends because they can be open past curfew hours.

    They do not just let any girl walk in there to work.

    Look guys whichever way you monger is your business.

    If I sat here and tried to make fun of the guy spending more than me on the same girl, do you think that person is going to care?? He's in a position not to care.
    Agree to disagree and your info is truly what's misleading. One thing I want to make clear and I speak for myself perhaps the other Centro guys. Just cause we go to Centro, it does not mean we don't also go to Poblado and spend 200-800 k when we feel like it. Not going to measure bank balance or dick size while at it, but I could. Also anyone who's so quick to mention they got money blah blah on an anonymous board on the internet that no one cares about is actually the one whos' broke and trying wayyy to hard. Anyone coming from the USA can have money. So it's not about that at all.

    In fact I could even get into facts and stories how Wealthy people spend less in many ways. Yes there are some flashy dudes, but real wealthy men who built their castle from the bottom with their own sweat always make every dollar count. I used to be a banker, the clients that called to dispute $1-$5 late fees and finance charges were Always the ones with $100 k+ to several Millions of $ in their accounts, whereas the ones with bad credits with barely few hundreds dollars who are always paying overdraft fees and finances charges never or rarely call to dispute fees. If anything they were grateful to have an account in the first place. Hence the well known facts that bank / businesses make money usually only the medium class and especially on the poor. Consider this Free education, and try disciplining yourselves, as you're giving yourselves away as fakes and want to be cause you don't really have money if going to Poblado only is your argument.

    My thing is if you're visiting a country, why not explore multiple places and methods? No different than eating street food and go where the locals go. Going to places that cater only to gringo to me is not a real local experience since they're targeting my dollar. No different than going on a cruise and staying on the Ship LOL. It's pathetic. And some would dare claiming they visited the country. No you didn't, you stayed on a fancy ship. Menus in English, Bitches speak English, LOL, all to trap my dollar. So no I want to get what the locals get, no Ingles, cheap street food, cheap cervezas, raw local pussy with no fake tits / No Fake asses targeting my tourist arse.

    Why does it have to be a competition or one vs the other? Some dudes like myself get bored quick, some mornings I use Centro also for a little walk and exercise, evening I prob spend more than some of you in Poblado. Yes I sit in VIPs in both Gusto and Lleras park club, La Isla and all the others. I often walk in with two chicas or pick two chicas and buy a bottle to share with even strangers LOL. Most of what users write about centro is true, there are women from Poblado that I fuckd for 300 k that can't even come close to some of the Centro beauties. Not all of them but some for sure. Plus la Isla ain't really all that and some women in there I wouldn't fuck for free. I'd say 1 out of 10 women in la Isla is prob an 8-10, the rest or 90% are just average hoes.

    When I went last time few months back, same girls coming from La Isla and Face dos went to other local after hour club after closing, and were asking 1/3rd of what they skd me before LOL. So 300 k got reduced to 120 k (actual going rate in the after hour club, 120 for 30 minutes, room upstairs and club still take a cut meaning they prob earn 50 k), met one in the street before she went inside, negotiated down to 50 k + taxi and ended pay paying 100 k at my place. Was around 4 am. Yes same hoe from La Isla who wanted 300 k. Of course many aren't going to go for it, plus the super hot ones always make enough money and don't go to after hrs and aren't desperate. But many of the others, still possible solid 6-8 range you can get cheap if you catch them in other places or if they like you.

    So GTFOH. If you don't have games just say you don't but don't talk sh $t you know none about. It's also about not being afraid to visit clubs with no other gringos almost in sight. Some of you fellas maybe aren't fun, yes some of those hunnies are hardcore pros, but many of them are new to the game, or college student and besides they are all still human. If you're cool and they just want to hang with you sometimes the money becomes secondary. Women aren't machines, they can chose to charge you an amount and charge the other chomp less. They are not programmed to not have any feelings, or never get horny, and you all often forget that they still have boyfriends banging them for no dinero, or worse no boyfriends due their hobby meaning they still want dick when they've no client.

    Bottom line, I don't want to offend anyone so Admin don't ban me for saying this LOL, but honestly if you joined this hobby because you failed with women and didn't have any games, or were unlucky with love for whatever reasons, then just learn and try to apply yourselves to become better, remember that practice makes perfect, and just don't argue. Just having stateside money that becomes a lot overseas and suddenly getting laid by women you've never had a chance to bed before does not make you a player, or think you know all about women. You are paying her while the local matcho with games with zero dollars is nutting in her free, daily!

    Because believe it or not, many of us in hobby have been married, dated dimes back home, tons of them, fuckd the prom queen and everything in High school and still don't have any problem picking up dates. And for us this is just fun to continue our journey of passion and emptying our intensely filled Libido LOL.

  4. #46456

    Good To The Last Gota (Drop) Kind of Like The Maxwell House Coffee Slogan

    Very slow today in El Centro which is typical, yet two Sundays ago it was popping.

    I arrived around 3 PM Sunday and just kind of hung around for a few hours making laps and talking to a few guys. Nothing to write home about, yet a few of my regulars were out and I kind of let them know not today, but thanks.

    Around 5 PM I was getting tired and wanted to get back to my place for happy hour so pulled one of my regulars who I have known for at least seven years, longer than any of my others.

    We checked into Zona Rosa and my god was she in heat! After about 25 minutes of huffing and puffing, she literally demanded that I come in her mouth. She had never asked me to do that before, and I typically don't finish with Blow jobs, and when I do the girls typically hit the bathroom to spit out the jizz.

    Well this time, being the gentleman that I am, I decided to oblige and go with the flow.

    Oh man she worked it and worked it and then I blew my load.

    But she kept sucking, and when she pulled her head back, she had this shit eating grin on her face as she had swallowed my load. I don't think it was too tasty, but maybe it was!

    Holy shit, major brownie points for what transpired. I never knew she was a swallower, and they are hard to come by.

    I told her she was a dog in heat today. I'm not sure if I said it correctly in Spanish when I told her that she was a "Perra Caliente", but she understood what I was saying and smiled and said yes she was very horny today which in Spanish is "ganas" I believe.

    For some reason I seem to have good experiences on Sundays in El Centro and today was a winner.

  5. #46455
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You can also buy a real refundable ticket for free.
    I am aware of that and that is an option but with the current situation I have spent months fighting airlines for refunds for "refundable tickets". A lot of airlines and companies are dragging their heels and have all types of T's & see's and its very easily to overlook a condition in terms of your refund, and I would rather do without the hassle of spending a few hundred dollars and then fighting to get it back. Simple solution for me, spend less than $20 and I have a live ticket within a few hours as I see my time as valuable.

  6. #46454

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You can also buy a real refundable ticket for free.
    That's true depending on what you are trying to do. For example if a return ticket from Medellin is needed, just buy it right before you leave then cancel it after you clear customs. US federal law gives a 24 hour window to cancel. Usually they wait until the 24 hours has expired before hitting your CC. If not you'll be promptly refunded.

  7. #46453
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyO  [View Original Post]
    I think I used this website https://bestonwardticket.com. You get emailed a ticket within a few hours which will be a live booking for 48 hours on the airlines website, you also can choose your destination. There are others if you Google it. An extremely useful service when using one way tickets and well worth 20 bucks.
    You can also buy a real refundable ticket for free.

  8. #46452
    Quote Originally Posted by DogLife  [View Original Post]
    How do you rent airline tickets? Am curios? As this is something which can really be useful to me at times.
    I think I used this website https://bestonwardticket.com. You get emailed a ticket within a few hours which will be a live booking for 48 hours on the airlines website, you also can choose your destination. There are others if you Google it. An extremely useful service when using one way tickets and well worth 20 bucks.

  9. #46451
    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    If anyone has specific advice regarding what to do, or if I were to buy a new phone, how to activate e-SIM with T-mobile, etc. , it would be greatly appreciated if you give me the short version.
    With T mobile, you go onto their website and buy an international pass, $35 for 10 days, $50 for a month. That is the most painless way to go.

    You do not need an international pass for Mexico (or Canada I think) but you do for South America.

  10. #46450

    Renting airline tickets

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyO  [View Original Post]
    At Slapshot on my way here I rented an airline ticket just as a precaution as I had issues with one way tickets before. They cost around $20, a few companies do them and the booking number shows up as a live booking on the airlines website.
    How do you rent airline tickets? Am curios? As this is something which can really be useful to me at times.

  11. #46449
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    If I sat here and tried to make fun of the guy spending more than me on the same girl, do you think that person is going to care?? He's in a position not to care.
    The observation may not be for the guy spending more than you. It could just as well bring awareness to someone new that comes along. Just like when I went to Jamaica and they had the nice new shop where tourists could by things. I sensed something fishy and went outside to ask a local. Turned out locals could by the same shit around the corner 50 meters away for 1/4 of the price at a place that was not shiny and new. Nobody is being forced or made fun of to shop at either place, but it is information that can be taken into account of where to shop.

  12. #46448
    Be sure to buy an unlocked phone. If you don't it's not the end of the world, you can get it unlocked but it will take up to a day. Also, and this is in no way me blaming you the victim, keep your phone in your hand or in your pocket at all times. That is my practice even at home on the rare occasions someone I don't know well is in my apartment. Another point for future reference is the DIDI app give you the option of using a taxi. You pay the meter reading using the same payment methods you use with independent DID drivers. And the taxis use their own phones to accept the trip and follow GPS guidance. I sometimes lose patience with taxistas fumbling routes and turn on my phone's GPS. In those situations I tell the taxista to turn off the radio and listen to the GPS. I keep the voice guidance in Spanish.

    Anyway back to your phone, you won't have much problem setting up a new eSIM but it may take more than one try. I stick to physical SIMs for this reason. I also keep a spare phone but in a pinch I can use a friend's unlocked phone with a newly activated spare physical SIM I also keep handy.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    I left Lleras around 12, last night. When we got back into Envigado, I told the taxi driver I needed to pull out cash to pay him (normally I would take DiDi / Uber but it was slow and a cab was readily available). We went to the gas station, but the guy had been using my cell on the dash for the map, and he took off. The gas station says I can talk to some one about video on Tuesday. The police say go to Fiscalia, which is not open today. My last back up was April 15. I can't access WhatsApp on my computer, nor can I mark my phone as lost on icloud. What a day!

    I fucking knew this bullshit would happen.

    If anyone has specific advice regarding what to do, or if I were to buy a new phone, how to activate e-SIM with T-mobile, etc. , it would be greatly appreciated if you give me the short version.

  13. #46447
    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    .

    If anyone has specific advice regarding what to do, or if I were to buy a new phone, how to activate e-SIM with T-mobile, etc. , it would be greatly appreciated if you give me the short version.
    It appears to be straight forward following instruction here.

    https://www.t-mobile.com/support/devices/t-mobile-esim

  14. #46446
    Quote Originally Posted by Onojdi  [View Original Post]
    Is it possible to take the girl to your hotel? I just don't' like these short time places. I prefer "my" place. And not to rush. I'm thinking for something like "let's go to my hotel, take that 30 k x 2 and let's take it slow and easy".
    If your hotel is on El Centro and reasonably close then it's possible. However, if you're in Poblado or Laureles most of them won't want to go. There's a bit of paranoia about leaving their comfort zone. There's also the time aspect. If traffic is bad they could miss 6 or 7 customers just to leave with 1. You can either rent your own place in El Centro to use for the girls there or use one of the better short time hotels like Premium Plaza or Zona Rosa.

  15. #46445
    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    I left Lleras around 12, last night. When we got back into Envigado, I told the taxi driver I needed to pull out cash to pay him (normally I would take DiDi / Uber but it was slow and a cab was readily available). We went to the gas station, but the guy had been using my cell on the dash for the map, and he took off. The gas station says I can talk to some one about video on Tuesday. The police say go to Fiscalia, which is not open today. My last back up was April 15. I can't access WhatsApp on my computer, nor can I mark my phone as lost on icloud. What a day!

    I fucking knew this bullshit would happen.

    If anyone has specific advice regarding what to do, or if I were to buy a new phone, how to activate e-SIM with T-mobile, etc. , it would be greatly appreciated if you give me the short version.
    I know it's too late for this information now, but whenever a taxista needs direction I hang onto my phone and tell him when and where to turn. I've known too many people who have lost phones by charging them in a taxi, or letting the driver use their map.

    If I was coming down this week I'd just bring you a phone, but I won't be in Envigado for another 10 days.

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