Medellin Reports

[GoodEnough]

Sorry brother. This is neither a Seeking Arrangement thing nor a Colombia thing. This is more a pussy over man thing.

A hooker/porn chick in the golden age of Rio named Lebara used to take guys to her house a couple of hours away in Petropolis. My buddy went and said there was a stack of Western Union papers on top of a brand new China cabinet some guy just bought. Her mom grabbed the stack and asked her if my buddy knew how to fill the form out so he could send money too.

A buddy in the States is from Thailand. He was sending money back to his hometown to his girlfriend that turns out had another boyfriend. We could go on forever with these sending money stories that have been being created since the dawn of man being able to send money to women. I do not get it myself, but it always has been and always will continue to be a thing.

P. S. 1. I know gay guys that do the same shit, so it is actually more than a man-pussy thing. 2. I just googled Lebara and some old pictures came up.

I have never (regrettably) been to Colombia, and at my age it's not likely I'll ever go. I do, however, live in the Philippines where identical scenarios to that described above, play out every day. There are lots of variations on the theme, and they never fail to attract the gullible. I cannot recall how many times I have warned newbies here that they are being played, and in every case, I've been ignored, typically provoking a response such as: "I hear what you're saying, and I appreciate it, but this girl is different. " It has gotten to the point where I've simply stopped trying to warn anyone. Maybe the tendency to fall for these scams is a universal willingness to engage in willing suspension of disbelief.

GE.

[Mr Enternational]

Are some men really sending these SA girls money on a monthly basis? This is absurd and anyone who does this deserves a ban from Colombia, a ban from this forum,

Sorry brother. This is neither a Seeking Arrangement thing nor a Colombia thing. This is more a pussy over man thing.

A hooker/porn chick in the golden age of Rio named Lebara used to take guys to her house a couple of hours away in Petropolis. My buddy went and said there was a stack of Western Union papers on top of a brand new China cabinet some guy just bought. Her mom grabbed the stack and asked her if my buddy knew how to fill the form out so he could send money too.

A buddy in the States is from Thailand. He was sending money back to his hometown to his girlfriend that turns out had another boyfriend. We could go on forever with these sending money stories that have been being created since the dawn of man being able to send money to women. I do not get it myself, but it always has been and always will continue to be a thing.

P. S. 1. I know gay guys that do the same shit, so it is actually more than a man-pussy thing. 2. I just googled Lebara and some old pictures came up.

[ColombiaLover]

So true. They would never admit that all of the nice places they good, food they eat, and drinks they drink are paid for by gringos. It's one big fantasy and these girls are always trying to one up the other. Very competitive. And "boyfriends" are never disclosed.

I just recently spent over 3 days with 3 of 4 different girls (which ones were with me varied). We went to 3 different places that provided a lot of photo opportunities. A lot of pictures were taken, including a lot of pictures of me. Not one single picture of me ended up in any of their Facebook or Instagram posts. No mention, no tags, nothing, which is exactly what I expected.

We're just the ones who provide them the opportunity to take all those great photos, but that's as far as our usefulness goes.

[PunkedLife]

You seem to have completely missed the point.

Helping someone out and being a sugar daddy are 2 completely unrelated things. I help people out all the time, in many different ways, not only by giving them money. There's no expectation of anything in return. I'm helping the person out simply because I want to help them, not because they will like me, or do something to benefit me.

Being a sugar daddy is the act of buying something. You're buying access, a certain type of behavior, certain favors. If the money stops the arrangement stops. If the other person isn't fulfilling their end of the bargain, the money stops, at least in an ideal world. Unfortunately, many guys feel that if they pour more money in, things will somehow improve.

To further confuse things you want to toss in "successful relationship" as a red herring? Normal relationships don't begin with "how much will I have to pay you to fuck me?" Nor do they continue with "how much do you need each month to be willing to keep fucking me?

Imagine this. Imagine paying every month to rent a car that you can have free use of whenever you're in Medellin. Every month you pay the maintenance, insurance and parking for the car. If anything unexpected comes up, you have to pay more. One thing, you don't own the car..

Haven't been on here in a minute. Sugar daddy. Charity. Whatever hardship or problem they are going through sounds like a personal problem. Not mine. They can starve for all I care. Yet somehow these broads are like roaches surviving a nuclear bomb because no matter how many times you hear a btch has no milk to feed her baby or she hasn't eaten in days. Somehow months later this btch still breathing and asking for assistance from her gringo cajeros. Any guy that thinks otherwise in my opinion es un flojo. Idk if we're allowed to use the s word. From what I've seen personally and from experiences from many others is that no matter how many times you help them with their problems when you actually have an issue yourself they will be no where to be found. And yah yah there are exceptions but let's face it with all these guys bringing over that westernized pedestalizing mentality most look at gringos as un cajero. If you think you are special and that your game is that tight or that you found yourself that unicorn then hey carry on with whatever helps you sleep at night. But to me you are either paying for it hourly in person or your supporting a puta overseas while one of us keeps her warm for you. Or worse your flying these broads to you. Also, I know some on this board like to pretend they aren't doing the exact things they are admonishing. Unless you bagging these thots for free you got nothing to brag about.

[ColombiaLover]

Yeah, mom looks pretty good. And better than ever since she lost weight in the last year. I had always heard that she would bang for money, but never got in a position to try. Had her in the jacuzzi with Enlly a few times, but that's as far as it went. Too bad. Enlly is very good about never posting fotos with gringos. Keeping it tight like that allows her to have multiple sugars or boyfriends and bring in money from multiple sources.

I suspect Leidy Barone and AleXandra are the same, but are a little more premium.

I still have her on Instagram and both of her accounts on Facebook. I haven't paid attention but can't remember ever seeing a picture of her with a gringo.

He is probably one of many sugar daddies or she is at least still working behind her sugar daddy's back.

When I met her mum it did make me think of many beautiful, disgusting scenarios.

[MaddTraveler]

Just my opinion. The sugar daddy arrangement is not for the benefit of the sugar daddy. How could it be? Where's the benefit of paying for something for 6 months that you only get to use for 6 days? Even if you had the ability to keep the girl locked down except when she's with you, how do you benefit?

I've got no problem with sending money, but the only real benefit for the sender is the same warm fuzzy feeling you might get from feeding the homeless or any other act of charity. You're not buying loyalty, or real emotion.

So with this comment.

Are some men really sending these SA girls money on a monthly basis? This is absurd and anyone who does this deserves a ban from Colombia, a ban from this forum, have his penis removed and swapped for a vagina. Or replace it with a blank space with a thumbs down tattoo LOL.

Seriously fellas. When you join SA, it does state no PPM (pay per meet) as a way to discourage prostitution on the site as they don't want to get shut down. Hence why most people do Monthly / Weekly allowances. But you can make arrangements without buying into a subscription. A monthly allowance is popular in the states, but most guys who does this see the girl regularly. But overseas fellas, really? Unless you live there and make plan to see her like twice a week, three times a week, then why would you do this and what's the upside? Charity or just cause you can?. Nuff said. Like someone else wrote earlier no wonder why some join this site. The guidance seekers, the leachers, as Simps will always be Simps. I can't get surprised enough on what men do in desperation for affection, in this case fake affection from women who share themselves everywhere, probably kissing you with my sperm still leaking on side of her lips.

[Frank Lucas]

You would think that an owner could dictate who can come and go into an apartment they own. But all buildings have the equivalent of homeowners associations, along with rules that all owners must abide by. And the enforcers of these rules at time's besides the rental agencies are the porteros (guards) in the building. In some buildings there are fines levied against the owners for repeatedly violating the rules such as noise. Colombia is not like the USA when it comes to property, especially apartments.

This is why I decided not to buy in a building in Medellin but bought a house instead. No stupid people or rules to deal with so far.

[Mojo Bandit]

If you like a girl and want to support her bcos she needs help, what's wrong with that? Isn't that how all relationships work?

I think that sentence says everything that is wrong with the situation. Is anyone really solely motivated to send money to a chica because she needs help? Would they do the same for a chica who was not in the least bit attractive. No I don't thinks so. There is no reality in that ideal. I have nothing against the ideal but no its not happening. There may be guys who see it as a dual motivation, partly motivated by the ideal that she needs help and partially by wanting to fuck her but if she stops fucking him is he still going to give her money?

Bottom line is that unless you met the chica and had some non transactional relationship with her first before the ideal of sending her money, then you are in a relationship with the chica based on money. If you do not spell out to her what your expectations are then you should not have any expectations (and those expectations should be realistic, if you think she is going to stay chaste while you are not around, that is naïve) but expecting her to spend all her time with you while you are in town is reasonable. She is like a timeshare that you make lease payments on.

Anyone who gets involved on any level with a chica that is a prepago and then gets upset at any point down the road that she fucked some other guy is living out Aesop's Fable about the Farmer who revived a freezing viper back to life by sticking it in his coat to warm it, and when the viper got reinvigorated it bit the farmer. Because that is its nature. I am not saying that chicas are snakes, some of them are really sweet, but it is their nature to fuck other guys, and if anyone expects anything else or get their feelings hurt then they have totally misjudged the nature of the situation.

[JjBee62]

Some of you guys have a really, really warped sense of reality. No wonder you you loiter on forums like these haha.

If you like a girl and want to support her bcos she needs help, what's wrong with that? Isn't that how all relationships work?

Why would you think that entitles you to "lock her up", enslave her to you? Is that how a successful relationship works?

You can go round and FK who you want, so can she. If you have an open relationship, all well and good. If you demand she only has sex when you turn up while you want to screw around. Good luck with that, you will surely get what that unreasonable demand deserves. If you want to marry her and have a monogamous relationship, do the paperwork and make it happen.

Otherwise, just enjoy what you have and don't beat yourself up if you feel like helping someone.

You seem to have completely missed the point.

Helping someone out and being a sugar daddy are 2 completely unrelated things. I help people out all the time, in many different ways, not only by giving them money. There's no expectation of anything in return. I'm helping the person out simply because I want to help them, not because they will like me, or do something to benefit me.

Being a sugar daddy is the act of buying something. You're buying access, a certain type of behavior, certain favors. If the money stops the arrangement stops. If the other person isn't fulfilling their end of the bargain, the money stops, at least in an ideal world. Unfortunately, many guys feel that if they pour more money in, things will somehow improve.

To further confuse things you want to toss in "successful relationship" as a red herring? Normal relationships don't begin with "how much will I have to pay you to fuck me?" Nor do they continue with "how much do you need each month to be willing to keep fucking me?

Imagine this. Imagine paying every month to rent a car that you can have free use of whenever you're in Medellin. Every month you pay the maintenance, insurance and parking for the car. If anything unexpected comes up, you have to pay more. One thing, you don't own the car.

None of this changes the number of days you're able to be in Medellin. None of this guarantees the car will be available when you need it. None of this guarantees it will remain in the same condition you left it. You have no way to control who drives it or when. All you're buying is the hope the car will be available and in good condition each time you return.

You can make whatever rules you want, but you have no way to enforce those rules. However, none of the rules are unreasonable. If you're paying for something, you are certainly entitled to set limits. And you're not obligated to observe those limits. Is your employer required to work the same schedule as you? Is he limited to the same compensation and benefits? Of course not. He's writing the checks, he decides which rules apply to whom.

If someone wants to find a girl in Medellin to marry and settle down with, more power to them. Most are going to eventually learn they made an expensive mistake, but that's their problem.

If someone wants to maintain a sugar baby in Medellin, again, more power to them. The other mongers in Medellin will appreciate their girl having a better phone to send them pictures with, not to mention all the nice lingerie.

If someone wants to send money to help out girls in Medellin, great. I'm sure they all appreciate it.

However, if you are having trouble differentiating between these 3, completely unrelated activities, you probably need to hire someone to slap some sense into you, because trying to go from giving charity, to being a sugar daddy, to being a husband is a guaranteed disaster.

[JustTK]

Some of you guys have a really, really warped sense of reality. No wonder you you loiter on forums like these haha.

If you like a girl and want to support her bcos she needs help, what's wrong with that? Isn't that how all relationships work?

Why would you think that entitles you to "lock her up", enslave her to you? Is that how a successful relationship works?

You can go round and FK who you want, so can she. If you have an open relationship, all well and good. If you demand she only has sex when you turn up while you want to screw around. Good luck with that, you will surely get what that unreasonable demand deserves. If you want to marry her and have a monogamous relationship, do the paperwork and make it happen.

Otherwise, just enjoy what you have and don't beat yourself up if you feel like helping someone.

[MistaDynamite]

Where can I go to get a test before the flight back to the US other than the airport? I saw someone posted https://cendiatra.com/. Are there any others and can I set up an appointment fot them to come to my hotel or AirBnB?

Thanks.

[Surfer500]

Just my opinion. The sugar daddy arrangement is not for the benefit of the sugar daddy. How could it be? Where's the benefit of paying for something for 6 months that you only get to use for 6 days? Even if you had the ability to keep the girl locked down except when she's with you, how do you benefit?

Another approach is to put a girl on retainer with the arrangement being that when Daddy is in town, the girl is on call for him the entire time if wanted by Daddy. Of course paying for six months for six days doesn't make sense unless the monthly payment amount is low, and the Daddy is so smitten by the girl that he has no problem paying the money.

The ideal situation might be for a guy who spends more like six months a year in the Country, and has a favorite he want's to help out.

But the Daddy has to be able to accept that when he's away, the girl will do what she's going to do and not be bothered with it.

And the benefit for the sugar daddy is having someone basically on call they like being with when there around.

Not sure if this is a "true" sugar daddy arrangement, but may make sense depending on the parties and the monies involved.

[Wolf662]

......that are boning dirty hookers all day long.....

I don't know who you sleep with but none of the girls I see are in the least bit dirty. LOL.

Ymmv.

[JjBee62]

Depending on the girl, one "daddy" can be described to another daddy as "sick child or other relative", "college class", "hair salon appointment" or whatever else she senses will keep the mailbox money flowing.

Sometimes I think I'm too cynical. Other times I realize there's no such thing.

[JjBee62]

I still have her on Instagram and both of her accounts on Facebook. I haven't paid attention but can't remember ever seeing a picture of her with a gringo.

He is probably one of many sugar daddies or she is at least still working behind her sugar daddy's back.

When I met her mum it did make me think of many beautiful, disgusting scenarios.

I just recently spent over 3 days with 3 of 4 different girls (which ones were with me varied). We went to 3 different places that provided a lot of photo opportunities. A lot of pictures were taken, including a lot of pictures of me. Not one single picture of me ended up in any of their Facebook or Instagram posts. No mention, no tags, nothing, which is exactly what I expected.

We're just the ones who provide them the opportunity to take all those great photos, but that's as far as our usefulness goes.