Medellin Reports

[CapYandel]

Hey guys, long time lurker here. I have read almost this thread and the Bogota one. I currently live in Mexico, in my mid 20's and work remote. I was planning on heading to Colombia to cut down living costs and to date better looking women. I do p4p about 5-6 times a year mostly because I'm a cheap bastard. Prices in Colombia seem very low though.

Any recommendations for someone who wants to date normal women (non p4p) and wants options for cheap sex to supplement normal dating?

Paying 50 k for a quickie at centro seems tempting but it doesn't seem like a good area to stay, I plan to stay for 3-6 months and then move on to another country. I was thinking of renting an apartment in Laureles, is this a suitable area for p4p too? (I don't plan to pay more than $50 per session).

I would say my total monthly budget overall is $1000, but trying to keep it as low as possible as long as I can rent an apartment to myself with a kitchen in a not so bad location and have sex around 2-3 times a week at least. I don't drink, do drugs or party.

Here in Mexico I normally spend between $10-30 per date with a non pro, so obviously it is way cheaper than p4 p which costs about $70 at least.

I guess my question would be, with a dating / monger budget as small as mine ($200-$300 monthly) does it make sense to do p4p in casas, street, the not so often good looking prepago for 100-200 k or should I just stick to regular dating? I speak fluent Spanish and have no trouble getting sex the regular way but nowhere near the quality of some of these prepagos.

[Wolf662]

Good for you, I'm also sure all them hot clean looking girls are for sure only fking you, so their not dirty, hmmm hmmm! Oh and by the way so your sure, I bang the similar dirty hookers you have displayed only differences is you don't think yours are dirty, and I know what mine all are! LOL! Stay safe! And of course Ymmv.

Well to me number of sex partners does not equal dirty / clean, number of showers and frequency of clothes washing does.

Ymmv.

[Tudman]

This is ridiculous. You are hiring her because she is a hooker and not because of her skills as a maid. So what is the difference between her getting paid at the club and getting paid at your house? If you were really interested in a maid then you would put out an ad for an actual maid instead of trying to turn a hooker into one. I once paid a hooker to clean my place and it turned out horrible. I could see why she was a hooker and not a cleaner. And what did she tell me? You can't say I didn't warn you. That she did. People know their own strengths and weaknesses. If they wanted regular jobs, then they would have signed up for them just like the majority of the population. You can't turn a hooker into a housewife or a housekeeper.

Did you take into account that she may have said no because she was disgusted to look at you, or it is only other men she could be disgusted to look at?

We all have our preferences. Don't try to force on them the preferences you think they should have.

Dude you totally missed my point. I could care less if she was disgusted with me, why the personal attack? Maybe she had a session with you and felt put off by maid offers. You see how that is uncalled for? Did you even bother reading the previous post about the maid sending money to her boyfriend and how that might not be the best idea. Listen, you do not know me nor do know you. I would never hire her period. Read the post beforehand before you start to insult people you do not know.

[JjBee62]

You can't talk logic or reason to many women. The hamster in their brains keeps on spinning. She is a maid fir a reason. It's a train wreck at times, hopefully she made the correct choice.

At fase 2 I remember telling a girl she can be my empleada (maid) and I will pay her more than she makes there. I forgot the details as this was a few years back, and she looks at me in a disgusted way. Just this past weekend, I was using a cam site, and seeing if I can get the girls whatsapp for free. I told her I would buy her a new outfit at studio f to go out, a nice dinner at a fancy restaurant and a night out at a place on las Palmas. She tells me, she wants the equivalent of $75 for her whatsapp. Well, aside from the fact that she is probably a scammer who will make up excuses to not meet up after the exchange of numbers she is where she is at for many reasons. 1 is they live in the present and cannot think of the future. Her math is not so good, a decent outfit in. Studio F is worth more than $75. It becomes comical at times.

Guys, try it out yourselves. Next time you are in a strip club or casa etc, ask your girl on average per month, how much she makes and how many days she works. For example, she says 2 million pesos a month more or less. Then offer her to be your empleada for that..

You're viewing things from a fucked up perspective. Let's take the Fase Dos girl as an example.

Talk to any stripper, if you can get into the friend zone with them you'll hear about all the crazy propositions they get. An old stripper friend from Albuquerque told me about a guy who had driven a couple hundred miles to go to the club. He brought along a diamond ring he claimed was worth $20 k, looking for a stripper who would agree to marry him. That's just one of the tamer stories.

Every stripper knows exactly why you're in the club. Nobody goes to a strip club looking for a maid, or a secretary. They're all there looking for someone to fuck. And the girls are there for the same reason, to get guys to pay them to fuck. You know what every one of them thinks when you offer to hire them to do something else? They think you're trying to fuck them for free and get them to clean your house while they're at it.

She would have to be incredibly naive to fall for something like that. At the club she knows what she has to do and she's guaranteed to get paid. She doesn't have to worry about spending all day cleaning someone's house, having to fuck him by his rules and then find out she has to repeat for 6 days before getting paid.

On to your attempts on a cam site to get a girl's Whatsapp for free. She's clearly much smarter than you give her credit for, and I've got about 10 years experience along with a year working with webcam models to back that up.

Every webcam model, every time they broadcast, gets plenty of "if you give me something for free, I will pay you later, more than you would normally get. " Those are called freeloaders. I've seen 10,000 of those offers, ranging from $5 to $100,000, if I've seen one. If she's selling her Whatsapp number, which usually goes directly to a phone carried by her handler, it's simple, you spend the money and get the number. Then you get to try to convince some Colombian guy to let you fuck his model.

Why would anyone think there's some exception out there? Do you go into restaurants, and instead of paying, tell them you'll send over some headphones next week which are worth more than the price of the meal? Does your cellphone provider let you pay the bill by sending them some clothes from Amazon?

So why is a girl being stupid if she won't accept a promise, from a complete stranger, for something she can't use to pay her bills. She's not on webcam to get new clothes. She's on webcam to get paid. She would be stupid to accept such an offer.

Understand this. If she has managed to stay on webcam for 4 months, she's almost guaranteed to be making good money by Colombian standards. She doesn't need to fuck anyone, doesn't need to spend time with people she doesn't like and she's making more, consistently, than she ever made selling pussy. While you might be able to woo her, either she'll turn out to not be worth the effort, or you'll spend at least 20 times as much as just going out and finding a hooker.

Instead of claiming the girls are stupid because they won't let you scam them, why don't you do something smarter? If you're looking for a maid, go to an employment agency that provides maids. If you're looking for someone to pay for sex, go find a prostitute. If you're looking for someone to buy clothes for, go find yourself a girlfriend.

If you think women go to clubs to look for "simps" and you're still going to clubs looking for girls, well that's a pretty easy equation to solve.

[GeneHickman]

Did you take into account that she may have said no because she was disgusted to look at you, or it is only other men she could be disgusted to look at?

We all have our preferences. Don't try to force on them the preferences you think they should have.

While I agree with this for the most part. I do think is it more common in Colombia for men to be fucking their maids, secretaries and so on than in the US where such things are frowned upon and even illegal and often can come back when relationships go sideways, and lead to the downfall of people in higher positions. I have seen this girl that works cleaning houses 2-3 times a week, she gets paid 80 mil for a full days work (what she told me). I was giving her 150 mil for a couple of hours but of course I was not there all the time, and I know she does the same with other mongers as well. But she uses this more to augment her income as a maid than replace it, I could never figure out why not just working girl a little more as the 80 mil wasn't much. I asked her directly once and she said well she likes cleaning houses and thinks hard work is good for her, and also that's what her daughter thinks she does for a living. So they all have their reasons, and I don't mess with that or try and use my financial position to change the status quo.

All I know though is if I was living there, she would be cleaning my house. Jajaja.

[Mr Enternational]

Guys, try it out yourselves. Next time you are in a strip club or casa etc, ask your girl. Then offer her to be your empleada for that. She will probably say no. Zero chance of catching an std, normal hours, dignified job where she can tell her family

This is ridiculous. You are hiring her because she is a hooker and not because of her skills as a maid. So what is the difference between her getting paid at the club and getting paid at your house? If you were really interested in a maid then you would put out an ad for an actual maid instead of trying to turn a hooker into one. I once paid a hooker to clean my place and it turned out horrible. I could see why she was a hooker and not a cleaner. And what did she tell me? You can't say I didn't warn you. That she did. People know their own strengths and weaknesses. If they wanted regular jobs, then they would have signed up for them just like the majority of the population. You can't turn a hooker into a housewife or a housekeeper.

etc, does not have to have sex with men she is disgusted to look at.

Did you take into account that she may have said no because she was disgusted to look at you, or it is only other men she could be disgusted to look at?

Meanwhile she prefers to work late nights on the weekends while her friends are out, hanging around on her cell phone, waiting until the end of the night to make $50?

We all have our preferences. Don't try to force on them the preferences you think they should have.

[Nounce]

It seems that you want to define Sugar Daddy as someone that suppprts a girl and enslaves her with rules.

I don't see anything he said fit the definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slave

[Nounce]

She is a maid fir a reason.

She is a migrant worker. By going to another country, she makes at least 4 times more which is also much more than a college graduate makes in her home town.

[Black Page]

For those who like the sugar lifestyle, to each their own. I prefer to rent for a day or 2 and return.

Best quote I can cite about our hobby is "Men do not pay women for sex, but to see them disappearing after sex".

Besides regular P4P activities, I am one who did spend money to have a girl pretending to be my girlfriend, then I started wondering "what am I doing here?" and I evolved, starting to offer money to 2 girls, to pretend they are my 2 girlfriends and we are a happy trio. All this only in Batam, Indonesia, because there local girls really can make you feel they are girlfriends with benefits, and never in Colombia, because in Colombia girls are very clear it's a business arrangement.

With all this, everytime I finish the deed I start wondering "who is this girl sleeping here? Who's next?" and I go back to the Wise Statement above.

[MaddTraveler]

Sorry brother. This is neither a Seeking Arrangement thing nor a Colombia thing. This is more a pussy over man thing.

You're 100% right. I mentioned SA since there was an ongoing discussion about it. Went to Costa Rica few years back, met this chica and went full GFE, BBFS, CIM, everything. Then found out she had an American fiancee, western union novio sending her money every month. Then she got married and even sent me pictures of her wedding on Fb LOL. I said congrats and asked when will you be avail again? LOL, she replied and said soon. And yes met her again on following trip, she works in Del Rey hotel without her hubby's knowledge. I guess after honeymoon was over and when the dude returned to the state.

Lots of simps do this also in the DR, many of these chics have western union papis. Sometimes it's helpful and I've gotten better discounts from these girls cause they're not desperate, also they're not banging 10 dudes a day and they become very selective bc they got cash coming weeky. So technically those daddies are helping us fellas. I get better svc from these girls, they dress better, smell better, and definitely tigher. All because of the daddies.

I guess I should say a big thank you LMAO.

[MaddTraveler]

Weird thing about Colombia and this group of great mongers, 1. If you're not in Poblado, you're not banging the best chics. 2. Only the select few members find the diamonds in Parque Botero. 3. No one ever spends more than 35,000 pesos for sex in centro. Thanks to Mr Enternational for keeping it honest with the 50,000 pesos and 16,000 pesos for the room. 4 if you use seeking then you have most definitely found the best chics in Medellin. 5. if you haven't stayed at the Mansion then you're missing out on one hell of an experience. 6. if you invest in any property, its a lost, regardless, even if you just want a place to call your own and store items when you leave the country. 6. don't every mention money on this board, otherwise your arrogant, cocky, and usually broke, according to those with the most money and largest opinions. 7 did I mention that you are the scum of the earth if you are banging chics in centro bareback? 8. No chic from centro has ever made it Parque lleras and asked for 10 times the rate that she receives in Centro. 9. No one from the board ever spends more money on a room than he does Pu $$why, because the room and location, usually Poblado / Laureles will get you a skinny chic with flawless skin and perfect ass, this happens all of the time. 10. Never take anything that I post as valid information, because most of my adventures and girls are not real or exist, I have only been traveling to Medellin for 4 years now.

It's so funny how your last item is the one that's correct. Mostly nonsense is what you just wrote. Mongering has no rules, no laws, no set pricings as these women aren't robots.

Stop writing rules or thinking you know it all. You said some here are arrogant and you actually meet the exact definition of arrogant with this list LOL.

- I'm in Medellin now, and met at last 3 chicas so far which I would rate a solid 8 (Fair rating w over 10 years of mongering) - met them in centro then I see them at night in parque Lleras. This is fact, period, any opinion is irrelevant. They go from the 30-50 k pricing to asking me 200 minimo in lleras, had to remind them hey I need centro pricing. I was with my boys and shit was funny as heck, then settled with one for 100 an HR, she was you're right. And gave me a centro discount at night haha. This hobby is fun, it's flex, just use your skills for maneuvering, manipulating and negotiating with WG and you'll be fine.

- Stop this BS with the hold the line crap. I've read hundreds of reports here where dudes pay 30 k in centro + 30 k+ tip. I always pay 50 k min plus hotel. I do the same in newlife and other casas, and when I go back they remember that. These girls often whisper to me on a voluntary basis that they prefer fucking gringos than the locals. Photoprepago girls tell me the same thing. Why, because we tip, because we are more caballeros (gentlemen). This is coming from them and we should be proud of that as foreigners. So tipping $2-$10 worth of pesos is nothing for fck's sake. You're mocking guys who maybe broke but you just told the world you're cheap and broke LOL.

- Also poblado is just more expensive and more safe perhaps for the chomps. Nothing special. The girls are just as hot in other places. Went to Barra Ej club last night, block from Nutibara, place was filled 6/7's, with many 8's and a couple 9's at least. Only 80 k to bang, 5 k beer. Poblado 25 k beer in Gusto and 300-700 k for a rundown hoe with extra make up. That's what you call hotter? Nah, you just pay extra for the location since Poblado is more beautiful and the bars are a bit more fancy, not the girls. The girls are just the same. Nightly I can count at least 50 centro chicas circling lleras lmao.

- I agree, the mansion is for losers and newbies only.

- I use seeking and agreed (just got to have patience, I closed it but may give another shot), the hottest girls in Medellin hands down, non pros, clean and let me bang raw and nut inside LOL. A 9 came two days ago from 7 pm to 10 am next day, went to dinner, bars, dance, 3 rounds all BBFS, only 200 k next day. She's happy and returning tonight.

- I met a vet who nearly lives here, and said there are like 100+ casas in Medellin incl strip clubs, etc. The Medellin map from this board doesn't have even half of those. So just explore and don't think you've seen it all. If you hate arrogance then just don't sound like one. I only speak of what I know for facts, and stay open to learn.

I have reports coming. Medellin is LIT right now. Come down fellas.

[Ewe52]

Yes, I am having trouble differentiating between the situations bcos I don't believe there is any difference between them. It's all about perspective. It seems that you want to define Sugar Daddy as someone that suppprts a girl and enslaves her with rules. If that's your definition then fine. We disagree on the definition. I would say that anyone looking in on a relationship from the outside and sees an older guy supporting a younger woman from afar, would say that is a sugar daddy. Rules don't come in to it. And that is how I would describe a sugar daddy too. Merriam-Webster seems to agree with me at least: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict.../sugar%20daddy.

Agreed, Paying for anything you're not using you are all of those terms and beyond pathetic. I may have 2 phD and an MD but I can see the alumni of Clown you are the strong on this board.

[Tudman]

My buddy's full time maid sends all her salary back to her boy friend who is building a house in her home town. My buddy keeps telling her to keep half for herself but she does not listen. Not sure how it will end up.

You can't talk logic or reason to many women. The hamster in their brains keeps on spinning. She is a maid fir a reason. It's a train wreck at times, hopefully she made the correct choice.

At fase 2 I remember telling a girl she can be my empleada (maid) and I will pay her more than she makes there. I forgot the details as this was a few years back, and she looks at me in a disgusted way. Just this past weekend, I was using a cam site, and seeing if I can get the girls whatsapp for free. I told her I would buy her a new outfit at studio f to go out, a nice dinner at a fancy restaurant and a night out at a place on las Palmas. She tells me, she wants the equivalent of $75 for her whatsapp. Well, aside from the fact that she is probably a scammer who will make up excuses to not meet up after the exchange of numbers she is where she is at for many reasons. 1 is they live in the present and cannot think of the future. Her math is not so good, a decent outfit in. Studio F is worth more than $75. It becomes comical at times.

Guys, try it out yourselves. Next time you are in a strip club or casa etc, ask your girl on average per month, how much she makes and how many days she works. For example, she says 2 million pesos a month more or less. Then offer her to be your empleada for that. She will probably say no. Zero chance of catching an std, normal hours, dignified job where she can tell her family etc, does not have to have sex with men she is disgusted to look at. Meanwhile she prefers to work late nights on the weekends while her friends are out, hanging around on her cell phone, waiting until the end of the night to make $50? Sometimes more and even at times nothing, minus taxi etc. Maybe a captain save a ho will show up, but odds are against that. Of course, personally I would not trust her to be alone in my house, but even if I did, they probably would be lousy at their jobs anyhow.

None of us are perfect. I do stupid things and acknowledge it. I used to wait in long lines at clubs. Today, hell no. Thinking like many. Men go to clubs looking for sex. While women go to clubs looking for simps. For those who like the sugar lifestyle, to each their own. I prefer to rent for a day or 2 and return.

[StudPlayer]

I don't know who you sleep with but none of the girls I see are in the least bit dirty. LOL.

Ymmv.

Wolf, great photos.

If you can pm me the contact info on the chica black hair removing her panties with black bra still on, mucho gracias.

You got good taste in chicas.

[JustTK]

You seem to have completely missed the point.

Helping someone out and being a sugar daddy are 2 completely unrelated things. I help people out all the time, in many different ways, not only by giving them money. There's no expectation of anything in return. I'm helping the person out simply because I want to help them, not because they will like me, or do something to benefit me.

Being a sugar daddy is the act of buying something. ...

However, if you are having trouble differentiating between these 3, completely unrelated activities, you probably need to hire someone to slap some sense into you, because trying to go from giving charity, to being a sugar daddy, to being a husband is a guaranteed disaster.

Yes, I am having trouble differentiating between the situations bcos I don't believe there is any difference between them. It's all about perspective. It seems that you want to define Sugar Daddy as someone that suppprts a girl and enslaves her with rules. If that's your definition then fine. We disagree on the definition. I would say that anyone looking in on a relationship from the outside and sees an older guy supporting a younger woman from afar, would say that is a sugar daddy. Rules don't come in to it. And that is how I would describe a sugar daddy too. Merriam-Webster seems to agree with me at least: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict.../sugar%20daddy.