Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

How do you get by getting bareback services in centro? Do they feel unsafe / offended if you mention it.

How do you offend a sex worker by talking about sex? It is like offending the cashier at McDonald's by asking for cheese on your burger.

[Orgasmico]

How do you get by getting bareback services in centro? Do they feel unsafe / offended if you mention it and what percentage do you guys reckon would accept it for a 30 k tip, I plan on taking PrEp with me so inb4 don't do bare, thanks.

Everything is negotiable. Success depends on you. No one can tell you how successful you will be. If you find someone desperate enough, they might accept 30 K. There is something for every budget. Good luck!

[TravelDog99]

I am planning my first trip to Medellin in September or October. I have stayed in Costa Rica before at the Sportsman's Lodge and am looking for a similar experience. Low key, kind of quiet, food and beverages available in or nearby, safe and secure and enough girls to choose from to have some variety and keeping it interesting. Even some girls around if you feel the urge mid-day. I am not interested in the late night nightclub scene, pursuing and finding the ultimate 20 year old cover model, wandering the streets at night, negotiating the lowest ultimate price, or getting on a dating app. I speak little or no Spanish. Any suggestions for a similar experience? I've heard mention of Mansion?

[ABizzle]

How do you get by getting bareback services in centro? Do they feel unsafe / offended if you mention it and what percentage do you guys reckon would accept it for a 30 k tip, I plan on taking PrEp with me so inb4 don't do bare, thanks.

[GeneHickman]

Of course the guy would want to fuck her, and of course she would want to let him (see Clinton, Bill) and of course the wife would be upset. But only in America could she then sue them and not be called a working girl, but a victim. (and I kinda like her).

That is why I say sex is being used as a weapon in the US. It's as much within many marriages as outside. It's a definite tool in the gender wars.

[Osteoknot]

Maybe some of the sugar daddies amongst us can weigh in on this. If a guy is sending a Chica every month or week, or whatever it is, what happens if a girl has more than one sugar daddy, and two or more of the sugar daddies are in town at the same time. I would think a "smart" sugar daddy would have an arrangement, at least I would, that when daddy is in town, the girl is only with daddy, not with other daddies.

But maybe I'm missing something here?

A Smart Sugar Daddy assumes he is one of several, doesn't care, as long as the pussy is at his beck and call, and on demand when he wants it. The amount he spends is inconsequential or the proverbial drop in the bucket. He doesn't think he is love. He is paying because for whatever reason, that particular piece of poontang scratches an itch he's got, and he doesn't want or need to shop around.

The Sugar Daddy who has it bad, is delusional, believes he is the only one, and the worst part of all, is spending money he can't afford, and believes the relationship is based on love. I knew a blue-collar Gringo who was sending half his take home to a girl who probably could barely stand his touch.

I can hear guys saying, a Smart Sugar Daddy is an oxymoron because no one with any real brains would be in that position to begin with. That's why I stressed the point that the money is not even a blip on his radar and he doesn't care what other people think.

I know this chica in Bogota who universally gets compliments as the most beautiful girl I have fucked in Colombia. Posting a picture of her is kind of a moot point because by the time I blur her face out, the nuances of her amazing beauty will be lost, but I will put a few screenshots and you will have to let your imagination do the rest. She speaks English, is in college, and knows how to behave perfectly in public. She has been groomed by the same sixty-something year old Gringo who paid her mom for her virginity when when she was fifteen. Now she is 23, in college, nice apartment, he pays her tuition and expenses. She told me the whole story on a long weekend we spent together in Bogota. She fucked me for some extra cash that she did not want to ask her Sugar Daddy for. And for the first time in their eight year relationship, she told me he was getting "a little rough" whatever the fuck that means, so she was shopping around for a new Sugar Daddy. Not my forte but a great short term fuck. He lives in Miami and flies in one three-day weekend per month. So there's one example.

[Elvis 2008]

Best quote I can cite about our hobby is "Men do not pay women for sex, but to see them disappearing after sex".

Besides regular P4P activities, I am one who did spend money to have a girl pretending to be my girlfriend, then I started wondering "what am I doing here?" and I evolved, starting to offer money to 2 girls, to pretend they are my 2 girlfriends and we are a happy trio. All this only in Batam, Indonesia, because there local girls really can make you feel they are girlfriends with benefits, and never in Colombia, because in Colombia girls are very clear it's a business arrangement.

With all this, everytime I finish the deed I start wondering "who is this girl sleeping here? Who's next?" and I go back to the Wise Statement above.

Nothing personal, BP. I could have quoted five posts with the same sentiment. Thing is I have posted more about this subject than anyone. I have posted about my successes more than anyone on seeking.com, SA, and others have followed in my footsteps.

So let me repeat my story. I have been at this a long time, and seeing hookers got old. I would enjoy someone's company and I hated the clock running. I get the comment about paying not for sex but for women to leave, but in my cases with the best working girls, I wanted the dates to be longer and did not want to be paying hourly rates that were really rates for sex.

Back in 2009, the Great Recession hit, and I explored the SB concept and have stayed with it since then. Desirable women were without work and money, and several hotties were not gung ho to do prostitution but they were willing to do a form of P4 P if it could be kept quiet and the women did not feel like sluts, I. E. They really liked the guy. What a SD does for a woman is money and something else. For a SB it is sex and something else. That is it. People always want to say at its core SD SB relationships are P4P and for some that is true. For others and with me, it is not.

In the USA a few years ago, new prostitution laws were passed and seeking.com/ SA had to change its appearance. They kicked off anyone who requested pay per meet (but just in the USA). In Colombia, I would get offers all the time from women who did not want to be kicked off.

When I have a real SB, I do not want them to leave. I enjoy their company, and they enjoy mine. I lectured women all the time on the site if you are interested in my money and not me, I am not interested in you. Most would actually respond to that positively.

As for the rules, anything goes. There is no rule about exclusivity, or time, or condoms or anything. You do whatever the fuck you two agree to.

So you are hanging with women who are working girls, and you treat them like they are. There is nothing wrong with that, and you may get some very skilled women, but I have not met many working girls who are quality people who I want to hang out with very long.

And while you are banging working girls, I was banging models, lawyers, doctors, engineers ETC. If a girl really likes me, guess what? She does not want to take money from me. I flew in a Colombian lawyer from Villavicencio and gave her $300 for 3 days company and she tried to give it back to me. She later told me she loved me. I insisted she take the money and calmed her down and told her it was infatuation not love. Did that ever happen with some centro chica to anyone here? Offer to give back $300?

A good SB SD relationship is harder to find than a good john working girl relationship but the sex is better, the companionship is better, and it is a richer and often cheaper experience. At the end of the day, fucking working girls gets pretty old. It is like fast food, satisfies a craving and little more. Why would you want to pay a quality woman, a quality companion, to leave? Some if not most of my best times with my SBs have been outside of the bedroom. I like to think quality women have some value besides their three orifices.

So you all can go on your rampages, rail against sugar daddies all you want, but the concept is not a threat to the women you are seeing ("Hey daddy, buy me a Iphone" does not mean you have a SB, just a greedy working girl), and it is going to continue whether you like it or not. Yes, guys having higher quality companionship, fucking better looking women, having better sex for often less money is going to win out in the end. Surprise!

[BlackThought]

330 k + tip so about $100 usd.

That's not bad at all to smash a 10.

[BlackThought]

First time in Medellin. Just visited Loutron and holy shit. It's expensive but definitely a must visit at least once. The way they have the line up of girls come out and present themselves is something out of a fucking movie. Every girl either a 8, 9, or 10. It's about double the cost of a standard lay in Poblado and not exactly GFE, but I can finally say I fucked a solid 10. I really don't think it can get much better.

If the girls provided full GFE, I would not look twice at the price. This is my type of mongering. No BS. No wasting time searching for a decent looking girl, or waiting for a girl who shows up 2 hours late. Just solid 10's quite literally fucking spoon fed to you. Wow.

What were the rates?

[Mr Enternational]

If we're being honest, most of us have walked that road at some point in our life. Whether it was throwing gifts and attention at the highschool sweetheart, or making it rain at the strip club.

That is something that I can say I have never been a party to. I have always been a player and my last year in high school I was a DJ at the strip club. So while dudes were tipping the chicks, the chicks had to tip me.

[Mr Enternational]

Dude you totally missed my point. I could care less if she was disgusted with me, why the personal attack?

It was not a personal attack. It was a play off what you said. Did you even read your own post? I even quoted it, but here it goes again.

does not have to have sex with men she is disgusted to look at.

I was simply saying that you could have been one of the men that you wrote about.

[Errol Flynn]

I do think is it more common in Colombia for men to be fucking their maids, secretaries and so on than in the US where such things are frowned upon and even illegal and often can come back when relationships go sideways, and lead to the downfall of people in higher positions.

I happen to live in the playground of the Hollywood rich and famous. A few years back, a young woman I knew (early 20's at the time and very hot, but knew it) got hired by a 40 something major television star and his wife to be their au pair. Sorry I can't name him, but by most standards I think he would be considered extremely handsome. Of course he was rich. Whether he was charming or an asshole I really don't know. What I do know, is that the most natural and obvious thing happened. He and the au pair hooked up. Duh. Then his wife found out, and fired the au pair. My friend hired Gloria Allred and got a major settlement, really didn't have to work, so went looking for her next rich guy.

Of course the guy would want to fuck her, and of course she would want to let him (see Clinton, Bill) and of course the wife would be upset. But only in America could she then sue them and not be called a working girl, but a victim. (and I kinda like her).

[JjBee62]

Dude you totally missed my point. I could care less if she was disgusted with me, why the personal attack? Maybe she had a session with you and felt put off by maid offers. You see how that is uncalled for? Did you even bother reading the previous post about the maid sending money to her boyfriend and how that might not be the best idea. Listen, you do not know me nor do know you. I would never hire her period. Read the post beforehand before you start to insult people you do not know.

If you're able to assume that the girls are disgusted by most of their customers, which pretty much means everyone on ISG, why is it improper for someone to float the possibility that a girl might be disgusted by you? Is it just everyone else here who is disgusting, with you being the only exception?

Mr. E's point is perfectly valid. Why would you try to turn a hooker into a housekeeper? Why would you expect a hooker to jump at the chance to become a housekeeper for a complete stranger? Perhaps there's a reason why she's not already a housekeeper. Maybe she hates cleaning. Maybe she can't stomach cleaning toilets. Perhaps she realizes there is absolutely no upside to becoming a maid.

While being a hooker has it's drawbacks, it at least allows her to dream. Every hooker in Medellin knows of some girl who went off to live with some rich customer. Each one knows someone who gets expensive gifts, trips to exotic places and lots of money. How often do you think that happens to maids in Colombia?

If being a maid in Colombia is so fantastic, any woman should jump at the opportunity, why haven't you started your own maid service? You could clean houses for gringos and get all those wonderful benefits for yourself.

[JjBee62]

Hey guys, long time lurker here. I have read almost this thread and the Bogota one. I currently live in Mexico, in my mid 20's and work remote. I was planning on heading to Colombia to cut down living costs and to date better looking women. I do p4p about 5-6 times a year mostly because I'm a cheap bastard. Prices in Colombia seem very low though.

Any recommendations for someone who wants to date normal women (non p4p) and wants options for cheap sex to supplement normal dating?

Paying 50 k for a quickie at centro seems tempting but it doesn't seem like a good area to stay, I plan to stay for 3-6 months and then move on to another country. I was thinking of renting an apartment in Laureles, is this a suitable area for p4p too? (I don't plan to pay more than $50 per session).

I would say my total monthly budget overall is $1000, but trying to keep it as low as possible as long as I can rent an apartment to myself with a kitchen in a not so bad location and have sex around 2-3 times a week at least. I don't drink, do drugs or party..

Well, if I could go back in time and talk to my mid 20's self, and I had the possibility to work remotely (not as common 35 years ago, I'd have some simple advice.

First I'd tell myself to start learning Spanish, but you've already got that covered. Then I'd tell myself to take some classes and improve my dance skills.

After that I wouldn't even worry about P4P, except if I happened to get bored. At your age, fluent in Spanish, you're a hot commodity in Medellin. If you can dance, you'll draw women like flies, except there aren't many flies in Medellin.

Food is cheap in Colombia, especially if you stick to basics and cook for yourself. The hard part will be finding an apartment that maximizes your bang per buck. Local transportation is cheap as well.

If you focus on the non-pros, you'll probably be kept busy enough to keep your mind off P4P. And you can probably cut that average date cost as well.

[SavePros321]

Instead of claiming the girls are stupid because they won't let you scam them, why don't you do something smarter? If you're looking for a maid, go to an employment agency that provides maids. If you're looking for someone to pay for sex, go find a prostitute. If you're looking for someone to buy clothes for, go find yourself a girlfriend.

That's exactly I read the OP's post. Good summary JJ!

We should file that guy's post under "stuff broke troll-mongers say", LOL!