Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

You lecture on a topic that has not been understood yet by top virology scientists and schools, and you do that exhibiting such a self-confidence like if you were stating demonstrated theorems. All this matter has still to be understood, and science does it starting from empirical facts.

Indeed, there is some evidence that being vaccinated, that is having some immunity, DOES protect to some extent also from being infected. Otherwise, how could one / we even mention herd immunity?

To what extent, it has still to be assessed. Vaccines have been out for less than one year. Nothing. To make the matter even more complex to assess, variants are more or less resistant. The system is quickly changing, before we understand the parameters.

The origin of your claim, very common around, is that statistical facts in vaccine trials and mass vaccinations have been mostly collected by counting those who fell sick, not doing a PCR to all those who were vaccinated (impossible in practice).
Most plausible conjecture is that vaccines protect to a less extent from infection, than from falling seriously sick, but this does not mean that there is no protection against infection..

This all makes perfect sense to me, which means someone is going to come along saying it's all garbage because of something they read from a guy who never took a science class.

Now let me throw a wrench at it.

I (vaccinated) caught Covid (most likely) from my brother, even though I probably was only within 6 feet of him for under a minute while he was contagious. I was probably contagious for nearly 3 weeks (unaware I was infected for the first 2+ weeks). During that time I spent at least 8 hours within 6 feet of 3 women and 2 hours in that range with a fourth, plus 2 hours having sex with a fifth. Only one has become infected. She was the one of the first 3 who had the lowest average distance from me.

Had I known of my infection, 1 less person would have been infected (assuming she won't infect anyone during her infectious period. If I had not been vaccinated, I probably would have been tested sooner, cancelled my trip and not infected anyone else.

On the other hand, if, being vaccinated, I had been asymptomatic, I would have been in closer contact with several other women, possibly infecting more, who could pass on the infection.

While the vaccine does reduce the chance of spread, it is not a perfect solution. There will be situations where, on a local scale, a vaccinated person will infect more people than if they were unvaccinated.

To try to make it clearer let's talk seatbelts. Seatbelts save lives. If you compare 100,000 accidents where everyone wore a seatbelt with 100,000 accidents where nobody wore a seatbelt, the benefits are obvious and undeniable. However, there are accidents where people die because they were wearing a seatbelt.

It's simple. For the overall public good, the more people who get vaccinated (and wear seatbelts) the better. But on the micro scale, for a small number of people, getting vaccinated (or wearing a seatbelt) will make things worse.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I know man, it is Karma. Unless it's family or wifey, no more bruh. Do as you please. After you nut feel free to stick 20 inches of your foot down their throat, I'm done caring LOL.

I'm in a strip club in the US waiting for a puta in the back room, I'm sitting at the bar the place is empty, she texts me saying she will be out in 2 minutes.

I did her several times in the past, so I see she starts walking towards me and WHAM it happens, she sits down with some old guy I didn't even notice sitting in the corner.

I was like WTF? She was smoking hot A true 10.

So instead of just leaving because I'm pissed, I walk up to the table and say what are you doing, and she says I'm talking to this gentleman, don't be rude! Jajajaja.

I was furious, not offended or hurt just pissed, I'm guessing he didn't even take her.

She probably just thought she could try to snag him and get still get me jajaja.

She was a solid 10 and she fucking knew it.

I blocked her number and didn't go back to that club for a few years.

[Mr Enternational]

You lecture on a topic that has not been understood yet by top virology scientists and schools, and you do that exhibiting such a self-confidence like if you were stating demonstrated theorems.

Not at all. I do not know shit about viruses or medicine, but I do know English and I know how to read and understand it. What I stated is from what is said on the CDC website (my reason for putting in quotation what I directly copied and pasted and saying this stuff from the CDC) and has nothing to do with my thoughts, beliefs, or self-confidence. So if there is a dispute, take it up with them. I do not have a dog in the fight.

[Black Page]

Quick question for a first timer in MDE. How far is it from centro to Lleras and then to Poblado? Just trying to get some perspective. Thanks.

What about Google Maps?

[Black Page]

How is that? Being vaccinated does not stop you from contracting or spreading the virus.

You lecture on a topic that has not been understood yet by top virology scientists and schools, and you do that exhibiting such a self-confidence like if you were stating demonstrated theorems. All this matter has still to be understood, and science does it starting from empirical facts.

Indeed, there is some evidence that being vaccinated, that is having some immunity, DOES protect to some extent also from being infected. Otherwise, how could one / we even mention herd immunity?

To what extent, it has still to be assessed. Vaccines have been out for less than one year. Nothing. To make the matter even more complex to assess, variants are more or less resistant. The system is quickly changing, before we understand the parameters.

The origin of your claim, very common around, is that statistical facts in vaccine trials and mass vaccinations have been mostly collected by counting those who fell sick, not doing a PCR to all those who were vaccinated (impossible in practice).
Most plausible conjecture is that vaccines protect to a less extent from infection, than from falling seriously sick, but this does not mean that there is no protection against infection.

I prevent a wrong claim: immunity from vaccine is stronger and more effective than from having been sick. At least this is a well known fact, demonstrated for most vaccines that have been used so far. There is some good reason that justifies that, because of how a vaccine works.

In conclusion: vaccinating say 90% of a population DOES protect also the 10% who could not be vaccinated, or (shame on them) refused it. The bad thing is that we will be never able to vaccinate 90% of world population.

[JjBee62]

I was supposed to meet up with a chick in Bogota today. Yesterday she told me that we could meet up sometime after noon today and I said ok. I hit her up at 10am today to ask what time we were going to get together. She said she thought me saying ok meant no. In what the fuck world does saying ok mean no? So if I wanted to mean ok what would I have had to say? I say what I mean. I don't say shit in a secret code for you to figure out and assume what I mean. Dealing with stupid mfs like this makes me want to be monogamous.

While there's no sure fire way, because chicas are going to be chicas, try something like "Te vere a la 1 mas o menos manaña. Esta bien? Confirmare la hora en la mañana.

I will see you around 1 tomorrow, okay? I'll confirm the time in the morning.

That won't guarantee she's going to show, but it ensures she understands your intent.

That's in my rules to live by, along with always confirming the girl is talking pesos and not dollars.

[Vewdew]

Quick question for a first timer in MDE. How far is it from centro to Lleras and then to Poblado? Just trying to get some perspective. Thanks.

From El Centro to LLeras its about 5 km or 3.1 Miles, from Poblado to El Centro its closer but not by much, I would say 4.8 Km or 3 Miles. Hope this helps.

[JjBee62]

Quick question for a first timer in MDE. How far is it from centro to Lleras and then to Poblado? Just trying to get some perspective. Thanks.

Parque Lleras is in Poblado. From Parque Lleras to El Centro is about 5 miles. From the south end of Poblado add about 4 more miles.

[Mr Enternational]

The "betrayal" situation is quite easy to understand if you accept one of the cultural idiosyncrasies of Colombians. They don't like to say "no."

This applies not only to chicas, but to most Colombians. Giving a direct "no" goes against their nature.

I was supposed to meet up with a chick in Bogota today. Yesterday she told me that we could meet up sometime after noon today and I said ok. I hit her up at 10am today to ask what time we were going to get together. She said she thought me saying ok meant no. In what the fuck world does saying ok mean no? So if I wanted to mean ok what would I have had to say? I say what I mean. I don't say shit in a secret code for you to figure out and assume what I mean. Dealing with stupid mfs like this makes me want to be monogamous.

[Mr Enternational]

Anyone refusing the vaccine at this point, considering 3,5000,000,000 shots have been given safely with a profound effect in the spread of the disease, is not only a selfish POS but a public health threat.

How is that? Being vaccinated does not stop you from contracting or spreading the virus. It only stops you from getting seriously ill and dying. A person with or without the vaccine is the same public heath threat. So the only person that someone could be hurting because they did not get the vaccine is themselves.

"COVID 19-vaccines are effective. They can keep you from getting and spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. COVID-19 vaccines also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19. Getting vaccinated yourself may also protect people around you.

This stuff from the CDC says can and may. It does not say will. If that was the case then Jj, who has already been vaccinated, would not have needed to be quarentined the other day after he tested positive for the virus.

[Osteoknot]

From my Sugar Daddies post. She was and maybe still is, in a classic long term, Sugar Daddy relationship with a gringo in his sixties who flies in one long weekend per month from Miami to bang her brains out. The Sugar Daddy bought her virginity from her mother when she was 15 years old. She sent this foto to me the first time before we met. I must have met her on line since she was in Bogota and I was in Medellin. Pictures don't seem to do justice, but her beauty was one for the ages. I also just remembered, SHE was the first one I ever pulled that little trick of having her enter the room, drop to her knees, and start sucking without saying a word the first time we met. That same scenario played out during my last trip to Medellin with Sort Swirl, as was posted here, but BarbBogota was the first. So far, those are the only two chicas with whom I have done that, but I am sure not the last. I will look for that transcript, it is really nasty and fun.

[JjBee62]

Anyone refusing the vaccine at this point, considering 3,5000,000,000 shots have been given safely with a profound effect in the spread of the disease, is not only a selfish POS but a public health threat.

While I'm clearly in favor of getting the vaccine, people are going to do what people are going to do. My uneducated opinion, considering my medical history, and the difficulties I experienced even though I'm vaccinated, is that I would be in ICU somewhere right now, with about a 5% chance of survival, if I wasn't vaccinated.

And everyone on this board is a public health threat. We're out fucking multiple partners, almost all who are unvaccinated and many are having unprotected vaginal and even anal sex. And let's not forget the recent discussion of the joys of actually eating other people's shit.

It's easy to sit on your throne and point the finger at others, but if you're mongering, you're no better than anyone else who's mongering, regardless of vaccination status. I've already proven a vaccinated person can get infected and I've proven a vaccinated person can infect someone else, even without kissing or having sex with them.

[ChuchoLoco]

No, I have not been vaxed.... Not something I want to spend a half a day researching on Google!

Never thought much of your posts and now I'm even more sure that you are the kind I avoid.

Much easier for you to spread the Virus than to take the time and effort to avoid doing so.

[CummingMan]

Quick question for a first timer in MDE. How far is it from centro to Lleras and then to Poblado? Just trying to get some perspective. Thanks.

[MiamiSammy]

No, I have not been vaxed. Haven't been home since New Year, and not really interested in the vax, anyway. One buddy has been vaxed, and both have had COVID. One got it a year ago, so he's not 100% confident, and doesn't want to spend his vacation quarantined, but it sounds like he's going to roll the dice.

I woke up today feeling fine. Congestion has improved, and fatigue is gone.

Based on JjBee62's terrible experience and information, it seems any test I do in the next 24 hours would come back positive. Thus, maybe I need to just make the decision based on how I feel. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but if I feel 100% in the morning, and my buddies have no worries. I'll probably consider going out. What could go wrong? Last time I was excited to go out in Medellin, I spent two days and $1800 replacing an iPhone!

Thanks to all for the comments, advice, & info. Not something I want to spend a half a day researching on Google!

Anyone refusing the vaccine at this point, considering 3,5000,000,000 shots have been given safely with a profound effect in the spread of the disease, is not only a selfish POS but a public health threat.