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07-08-21 16:26 #47296Senior Member

Posts: 1945Thats just so incorrect and demonstrates that you didn't really read what I wrote. You are clearly attacking a POV which I do not hold.
Originally Posted by MiamiSammy
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The vast majority of people will remain unvaccinated forever. You seem to be equating your own little societal bubble with what's going on in the greater world outside. Thats the problem. Unless you want to live in a world where you cut yourself off to most of the world and constantly have vaccines, your theory doesn't work.
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07-08-21 16:23 #47295Senior Member

Posts: 1945I didn't measure it myself, I had it tested several times. My IQ is 142. I am fine with that.
Originally Posted by MiamiSammy
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You seem happy to throw insults but you haven't given any details as to why you think my POV is stupid. Well, at least nothing that makes any sense. Please explain why you think my opinion is stupid. I am good at listening and always happy to learn. Hence my IQ.
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07-08-21 16:12 #47294Regular Member

Posts: 1643Too long and self-indulgent for me to want to read
But guys around here seem to like long reports. And I can be long winded and an attention-seeking myself. Your posts remind me why professional writing is always edited. The take-home for me is you seem to really enjoy yourself, and that's cool in this sport at any age.
Originally Posted by NilAdmirari
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07-08-21 15:33 #47293Regular Member

Posts: 1643Your argument has loopholes that you can drive a Mack truck thru
Not worth debating any more here. I have often said, people who post have their minds made up already, it's not as if anyone here is asking whether or not they should get vaccinated. As long as we live in a free country then people are free to make bad decisions, even when it is against the greater public good. Psychologically, many if not most people with these viewpoints already feel marginalized by society for other reasons, economically, politically, religiously, other scientific fringe beliefs (he keeps bring up vivisection and patent medicines). By going against the grain of the popular common sense opinion, they feel empowered and it compensates for the other issues and internal conflicts in their fringe belief systems. Control is the issue for them, not science or outcomes or greater good. They already feel persecuted, ignored and marginalized and this is how they compensate.
Originally Posted by JustTK
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07-08-21 15:14 #47292Senior Member

Posts: 6418Being under self confinement in sex prison I do appreciate such reports of distinction such that I don't really mind the vax vs anti-vax debate.
Originally Posted by NilAdmirari
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07-08-21 15:00 #47291Senior Member

Posts: 339The vaccine isn't a magic wand that you wave and PRESTO! CDC recommends waiting two weeks prior to interactions to allow the antibodies to actually multiply in your body and provide protection. This is the problem incurred when people of substandard intelligence try to fight over their weight class.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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07-08-21 14:57 #47290Senior Member

Posts: 339Stupidity and ignorance, as demonstrated so definitively by you, isn't a subset of anything other than a dearth of cognitive ability. You're simply not smart enough to understand what you're talking about.
Originally Posted by JustTK
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07-08-21 14:54 #47289Senior Member

Posts: 339By the end of the year, the vast majority of people will be vaccinated. Most don't feel the privilege you demonstrate, and are literally dying to get their vaccines. Yes, there are about 30% of pure ignorance out there who simply won't get it, but many of them will die. So be it. The Black Plague killed up to 90% of the population and changed the world order from one of peasantry to wage labor. Had they not utilized quarantines (some villages would lock infected people in their homes and starve them to death, others would fire on any strangers approaching the community) the plague might well have decimated entire regions, like it did in Asia.
Originally Posted by JustTK
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07-08-21 14:50 #47288Senior Member

Posts: 339You probably think that stripper thinks you're cute, too. ITS A FUCKING BUSINESS. ANYONE IN BUSINESS KNOWS OLDER PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY MORE FINANCIALLY SECURE. They're making a simple calculation that if they're going to fuck for money, they are going to fuck someone that HAS money. If you'll notice, their boyfriends are spending the money you're paying them to fuck you- and they ALL have local boyfriends. They also tend to like older guys because they're less likely to be violent.
Originally Posted by ColombiaLover
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07-08-21 14:44 #47287Senior Member

Posts: 339Neither Jung nor Freud are considered as central to psychology as they once were; Freud's oedipal theories have been roundly dismissed by the psychiatric community. Rather than having a daddy fixation, do you think it's possible these women might be smart enough to know that older guys have more disposable income and are more likely to treat them in the manner they prefer? The ratio of old rich men compared to young rich men is exponential. There's an undercurrent of misogyny just in your question- you imply that these women are driven by psychological need rather than intellectual strategy. It doesn't take Freud to figure out that if you're going to fuck for money, fuck someone who has money.
Originally Posted by Osteoknot
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07-08-21 14:38 #47286Senior Member

Posts: 339I truly wish the threshold of your intelligence was high enough to grasp the facts in this situation. Unfortunately, you don't have the level of IQ necessary to understand that you don't have the necessary level of IQ to understand the issue.
Originally Posted by JustTK
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Dunning-Kruger Effect.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.
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07-08-21 14:34 #47285Senior Member

Posts: 339You're right. You're putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 22. The problem with mutation is that eventually it can mutate into something no longer vulnerable to the vaccine and we're at ground zero. Your batshit crazy conspiracy about the "buy in" of annual vaccines is just that. As population puts more and more stress on wild spaces and interaction between wild species and civilization increases, these pandemics will become more common and the need for vaccines more vital. As much as you love your Ayn Rand philosophies and adhere to a "me first" mentality, millions and millions of people haven't "lived" with the virus, but millions and millions have died premature deaths. Yes, you are an ignorant imbecile with a terminal case of Dunning Kruger.
Originally Posted by JustTK
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07-08-21 14:24 #47284Senior Member

Posts: 1945Again, I don't doubt that. I am not anti-science at all. But I am not putting 2 and 2 together to make 6. .
Originally Posted by MojoBandit
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As I mentioned in a previous post, and as the people mention in your quotes, there are not enough people vaxd to prevent mutation. And since that is not even a serious goal of the international community, it will never be achieved. So we have a bunch of selfiish countries that implement policies that will kill their own citizens in the future and that will require buy-in to a never ending cycle of annual vaccines. Do you think that is a satisfactory outcome? I would rather learn to live with the virus, as millions and millions of people already have, myself included, no doubt.
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07-08-21 14:18 #47283Senior Member

Posts: 1945Yes I don't doubt it. The vaccine will help those that have been vaccinated and help prevent them from dying from the current variants of COVID. As would being in good health, as would following a healthy diet (research shows 73% improvement in covid outcomes), as would not being old, living in a cave, never travelling again, wearing a mask. None of it is a guarantee but there are quite a few things one can do to improve the outcome.
Originally Posted by JohnClayton
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But the issue is with the politics around world health. You can vax 100% of people in USA but if you ignore than 7 billion people living elsewhere, you cannot eradicate a virus unless you vax everyone at the same time. This is not even a goal of the rich countries. They just want to make money from the patents. So the virus will mutate and the vax will no longer work, and the political decisions will come back and bite the rich countries in the arse. All I can see is a future of constant border / restrictions / annual vaxxes for the rich and death for the poor. That's not a utopia I am willing to buy in to.
I am also anti-vivisection, which is smthg no one even considers. Plus I follow a healthy diet, thus giving me 73% extra protection according to studies. That's almost as good as a vax! Haha.
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07-08-21 14:05 #47282Senior Member

Posts: 1945Unfortunatyely the stupidity is all yours, in buying in to a solution that can not possibly work, then condemning others that don't buy in to your shortsightedness.
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