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  1. #47524

    Why Medellin and Cartegena Over Bogota for women?

    Hello,

    I am new here but not new to the mongering thing but have never been to Colombia. I had some Credit with Jetblue so I decided to book a ticket to Bogota next month. It seems like everyone universally prefers Medellin and Cartagena for the women is there a particular reason that I am missing? I wanted to stay in Bogota because I like the cooler climate but Have now decided to spend only a day or 2 there and then go to Medellin for a week due to all the positive reviews.

  2. #47523

    Different Strokes for different folks

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

    And if you're a younger dude, why tf would you skip centro to go to loutron and not vice versa? You have youth on your side on the streets, it's common sense really.

    Funnily enough, I can't bust a nut with a solid 9 at conejitas, but I can blow a load with a 30 k chubby brunette with green eyes behind the church because her pussy is so much better.

    Yes, the classic centro vs high end debate that goes on every weeek seemingly here. Its not a money thing, I could go to lleras every night if I wanted to. The girls are just a lot more fake, and literal seasoned pros who deal with gringos who use a translator every night and get fleeced, often tipping 50-100 k + like Onojdi. Centro girls are the girl next door types, the ones you see on the metro or working a coffee stand.
    I knew my report would piss off some of the long time regulars which is why I prefaced it by saying I'm a younger guy that clearly has different preferences from you guys. Different strokes for different folks. My advice is meant for younger guys like me (20's to 30's) that want to experience and be sold the "dream" as you describe it. We're a completely different demographic with completely different wants and it looks like I'm not alone. Just recently one guy posted about how he shacked up in an Airbnb and invited girls over using Tinder and Insta and much preferred it to the scene at centro. You are the presumptuous one if you think that isn't a viable strategy. Another guy posted about how the highlight of his trip was Loutron. The same high end place that "sells you the dream" which you don't like. Everyone has different preferences. If you enjoy picking up chicks in Centro, great. I just don't think younger guys coming to Colombia would like doing the same thing because we can get the same thing back home. There's probably a special type of appeal picking up chicks for cheap in centro has for you guys. But for dudes that want to come here and fuck pornstar types and live it up, Centro ain't it.

  3. #47522

    $100 goes a long way in Colombia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtndew704  [View Original Post]
    Can you post some examples of these 9's and 10's you are getting for $50-100?
    I didn't take any pics but $50-$100 is a lot of money in Colombia. $100 is 350 k pesos which is about as much as you could expect to shell out for a girl (at the highest end strip club or brothel). Now that's not to say spending more guarantees you a 9 or 10, but you literally can't reasonably spend more than $100 for an encounter tbh. Otherwise you're getting hosed or doing some overnight thing (which is fine).

  4. #47521

    Touche'

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

    And if you're a younger dude, why tf would you skip centro to go to loutron and not vice versa? You have youth on your side on the streets, it's common sense really.

    Funnily enough, I can't bust a nut with a solid 9 at conejitas, but I can blow a load with a 30 k chubby brunette with green eyes behind the church because her pussy is so much better.

    Yes, the classic centro vs high end debate that goes on every weeek seemingly here. Its not a money thing, I could go to lleras every night if I wanted to. The girls are just a lot more fake, and literal seasoned pros who deal with gringos who use a translator every night and get fleeced, often tipping 50-100 k + like Onojdi. Centro girls are the girl next door types, the ones you see on the metro or working a coffee stand.
    I wish when someone posted a post like they did, they would share some demo information on themselves to add some context to what they write here!

    I will show what I mean.

    I am a German white guy blonde hair blue eyes 6'3 180 lbs, 54 yo from Chicago, next.

  5. #47520
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

    Anyways, why tf would I want a girl in my airbnb? . I don't want a stranger around my belongings. IMO a very presumptuous report that makes a lot of generalisations based on a 4 day trip with no spanish. Sorry if harsh.
    Haha, got to say this aligns with my view too. I also prefer the general personality of the grils in Centro. Lot my humble and real. Less BS and pretensions. I have enough of that BS when I am at home.

  6. #47519
    Quote Originally Posted by Onojdi  [View Original Post]
    I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia.

    And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

    So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

    Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.
    Super. Glad to hear you had a great time. You spent what you wanted and found a way to suit you. Others, myself included, prefer other options. I quite like Club Colombia Roja. I can buy it from the street corner for 3. 000 pesos. I-ll be damned if I am going to go to a place where I have to pay 10.000 for the same goddamn beer. That's how I see the cost of things. It doesn't taste any better simply bcos I paid more for it. I have been in both corners and am happier where I am now. .

  7. #47518

    Have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Daga2222  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from my trip to Colombia. I spent about 4 days in Medellin and and a week in the Santa Marta area during more nature / touristy stuff (beaches, mountains, waterfalls, etc.) This was the first vacation I've had in a while so I didn't want to make it just about mongering. Now onto the time in Medellin, which was focused on mongering (outside of a day trip to Guatape):

    I tried my best to sample all of the mongering options available (online, SWs, brothels, the mansion) and IMO the right way to do mongering in Medellin is to build a list of online contacts before you come and chill out in an Airbnb having the girls come to you. If you want to ease into things, start by staying a few nights at the mansion where girls will be handed to you on a silver platter and then the rest in an airbnb. Once in a while, splurge on the high end brothels like Loutron.

    This advice is coming from the perspective of a younger guy. For me, the most important thing is getting to fuck solid 9's and 10's. A lot of people in this forum will talk about cento girls but the truth is the quality (at least from what I saw) is lower than what I can reasonably expect to get on my own in America, so why the fuck would I come to Colombia to fuck those chicks? I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.

    For me, the main appeal of my time mongering in Colombia was being able to fuck a couple of 9's and 10's that normally I would have no chance with. I did try out the SW and lower cost options and it ended up just being a waste of time for me. The highlight for me was Loutron. It's a high end brothel (300 k+) where you go to a mansion over looking the city. You sit down and a bunch of girls come out one by one, unrobe, spin around, and leave for the next one to come. At the end, you choose the girl you like. I think that experience (the mansion, the lineup, etc.) is worth experiencing at least once, so I highly recommend it. At Loutron, I got to fuck a solid 10 for the first time ever. The way I define a solid 10 is a girl that turns heads everywhere she goes and could easily be a pornstar based on looks. You aren't going to find this in centro.

    TLDR; if you're young and thinking about coming to Colombia, go for it. It's a hell of a time. BUT ignore the standard advice you see in this forum of picking up girls on Centro and shit. Chill out in a nice apartment and be prepared to spend some money on quality 9's and 10's (still only like $50-$100) That's really where the magic is.
    This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

    And if you're a younger dude, why tf would you skip centro to go to loutron and not vice versa? You have youth on your side on the streets, it's common sense really.

    Funnily enough, I can't bust a nut with a solid 9 at conejitas, but I can blow a load with a 30 k chubby brunette with green eyes behind the church because her pussy is so much better.

    Yes, the classic centro vs high end debate that goes on every weeek seemingly here. Its not a money thing, I could go to lleras every night if I wanted to. The girls are just a lot more fake, and literal seasoned pros who deal with gringos who use a translator every night and get fleeced, often tipping 50-100 k + like Onojdi. Centro girls are the girl next door types, the ones you see on the metro or working a coffee stand.

    IMO talent is more or less the same, , but in the more expensive places theyre selling you the dream, like you're hugh hefner, where as in centro you have to do the work and make her like you. she can be a total ***** or just whatever towards you, where in the clubs their job depends on your experience/

    In fact yesterday I fucked a solid 9 in raudal that was standing, in the doorway, estefania. 22 yo vennie blue eyes spinner 5 ft 3 face like selena gomez. Go see for yourselves she's probably there rn.

    Anyways, why tf would I want a girl in my airbnb? . I don't want a stranger around my belongings. IMO a very presumptuous report that makes a lot of generalisations based on a 4 day trip with no spanish. Sorry if harsh.

  8. #47517
    Quote Originally Posted by Daga2222  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from my trip to Colombia. I spent about 4 days in Medellin and and a week in the Santa Marta area during more nature / touristy stuff (beaches, mountains, waterfalls, etc.) This was the first vacation I've had in a while so I didn't want to make it just about mongering. Now onto the time in Medellin, which was focused on mongering (outside of a day trip to Guatape):

    I tried my best to sample all of the mongering options available (online, SWs, brothels, the mansion) and IMO the right way to do mongering in Medellin is to build a list of online contacts before you come and chill out in an Airbnb having the girls come to you. If you want to ease into things, start by staying a few nights at the mansion where girls will be handed to you on a silver platter and then the rest in an airbnb. Once in a while, splurge on the high end brothels like Loutron.

    This advice is coming from the perspective of a younger guy. For me, the most important thing is getting to fuck solid 9's and 10's. A lot of people in this forum will talk about cento girls but the truth is the quality (at least from what I saw) is lower than what I can reasonably expect to get on my own in America, so why the fuck would I come to Colombia to fuck those chicks? I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.
    Can you post some examples of these 9's and 10's you are getting for $50-100?

  9. #47516

    First time in Medellin and staying 4 days

    Hi fellow mongers,

    I will be visiting next weekend to Medellin. If anyone can suggest a good hotel and no Chica fee and places to go to get some good chicas. My Spanish is limited. Not looking for cheap girls'. Quality over Quantity. And willing to pay more (But how much? 7-10 range Chicas).

    Also any website (Escort, dating, Agency etc) would be very helpful.

    TIA.

  10. #47515

    Medellin report

    First time in Medellin. Here is my report to help those that want to visit. First of all I am not a guy that likes to pick up girls on the street and go to a short term hotel although I have done it a few times before. I like quality and am prepared to pay for it at Colombian prices. Arrived on Tuesday afternoon and arranged to meet a girl from SA that lives in Bogota but was here for a week. She was beautiful, classy and spoke perfect English. But cost more than the usual. She arrived Tuesday evening and I checked her in at the hotel I was staying for 2 night. The hotel is in the middle of Parque Lleras and was called the Charlee. Very unique and classy hotel but wouldn't stay there again. Had a great meal at Carmen and then we spent the night and following day together. Wasn't exciting enough for me so I had her leave the following evening.

    Wednesday night went to apparently the best strip club here called La Isla. It is in a building that is like a big warehouse but inside is nice and comfortable. A lot of stunning women in here and it was hard to make a choice. Had some drinks with a couple of different ones. Not cheap think they were 33,000 pesos each so around $9. My hotel wouldn't let me check another one in so decided to have fun on premises. Hotel attached to club and rooms were clean. Total cost 320,000 pesos (around $90) for an amazing 45 minutes. If you pay in dollars they only give you an exchange rate of 3,200 so $100 in US money. Yes I know it is expensive compared to one off the street but the quality was different class. The one I had showed me photos where she won a big beauty pageant in Colombia. She was that good.

    Left the club and decided to walk around the park around my hotel. Full of bars, clubs and girls on the street. Mostly from Venezuela is seemed. Got hit on of course many times. I wasn't interested but pretended I was. They start at 300,000 and come down quickly when you say no. I am guessing 150,000 would do it at peak times and then the cost of a short term hotel. As the night goes on I am guessing 100,000 would be readily available.

    Following day moved to a 5 star hotel away from the park booked on Hotwire. NH Collection Medellin Royal. $34 per night including breakfast. Crazy cheap.

    Went for dinner around the park and then visited a club called Gusto. Quite a few girls in there but not the same quality as La Isla so headed there again. Found another beauty and same thing as the night before 320,000 pesos. I didn't want to bring her to my hotel as would have cost a fortune and quite honestly I wanted to wake up early by myself as I had an early business meeting.

    Last day was the highlight of my trip. Visited the massage place Loutron which used to be owned by Pablo Escobar. Only 10 minutes away it is hidden away in the mountains and is a spectacular house. You sit down in a beautiful room and there is a notebook and pen for you. The girls come in one by one and you decide which one you want. They introduce themselves in their white coats and undress to show you front and back. Out of the 10 I saw there were 2 stunners but the other 8 were all more than acceptable. Went to an amazing room and spent an hour in heaven, massage, blow job and sex. Total cost 330,000 pesos. An amazing experience and one you must take advantage of while in Medellin if you can afford it. Only thing it took forever to get an Uber back from there. Heading back now and would say it was an OK trip. But Loutron made it extra special. I still like Brazil better but this is much closer for me of course living in Florida. And cheaper. Fro those that don't want to pay this kind of money and don't want to pick off the street I would say go to either Gusto or Parque Lleras bar for a drink and you will find nothing but working girls in there and will cost you less than La Isla or Loutron. But those are 5 star visits!

  11. #47514

    I love the casas, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Hey, we all roll differently. Some are into fb, others Lleras, others Fas Dos, others Centro. Me, I'm a strictly casa man; apparently not many of us around now. However, you have piqued my interest in Instagram. You stated "Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you". My experience has been that those who want $ have been significantly hotter than those who want just me. Obviously, you younger and handsomer guys out there may fare differently.
    I'm in Medellin now for the next 30 days. I used the info I learned here and the map (also from here). And I have been to the casas three days in a row! I love the simplicity and cheapness of them.

  12. #47513

    Casas

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Hey, we all roll differently. Some are into fb, others Lleras, others Fas Dos, others Centro. Me, I'm a strictly casa man; apparently not many of us around now. However, you have piqued my interest in Instagram. You stated "Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you". My experience has been that those who want $ have been significantly hotter than those who want just me. Obviously, you younger and handsomer guys out there may fare differently.
    Is there a certain area where there is a cluster of casas within walking distance of each other or are they scattered all over the place? If you don't mind me asking, where you stay and what are your favorite casas? I have found lists of them but have no experience in Colombia and don't know where to start.

  13. #47512
    Quote Originally Posted by Onojdi  [View Original Post]
    I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

    I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

    Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.

    Here you will read a lot of info about SWs, Centro girls, cheap options, etc. My report is for people who are looking for something else. I did not find a lot of info about that kind of travellers. I mean, people who are looking for a normal girls, working something in real life, going to university and so on. If you want a quality girl with tight pussy that did not fucked 100+ mens in the last 2 months, then go to Instagram. Send tons of messages, some of them will be answered and then it's easy. Colombian girls are super friendly, willing to meet gringos and to have some fun. Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you.

    And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

    I booked an Airbnb with a living room with a big nice sofa, kitchen with a bar area with 2 bar chairs. Separate bedroom. All the time I had in stock beer, wine, ice cream, chocolate and things like that. The effect is that the girl comes and then did not want to leave. Most of the times the girls stayed 4-5-6 hours. We fucked like crazy animals, drinking naked all the time, the girls are dancing, having fun hours after they planed to leave. And they know how to show their gratitude to you for the good time that they have.

    So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

    The summary was:

    - 7 different girls. Almost all of them stayed 5+ hours. The "oldest" was 23 years old. Most of them 20-21.

    - 3 asses fucked, one of them virgin. And she stayed from 6 pm to midnight. Yeah, it was really memorable night!

    - one 18 years old lesbian, living with her girlfriend from more then a year. And yeah, you can see that from her Insta profile.

    - Tons of photos, videos and good memories. With most of the girls we keep in touch even after I came back.

    - I showed the photos and the videos to my friends and now everybody either hates me or wants to come to Colombia. Or both jajaja.

    Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.
    Excellent report! I'll be back in Colombia next month and hope to provide some information about El Eje Cafetero. Any chance you could share or PM the search keywords you used on Instagram? Thanks again for the report!

  14. #47511

    Snoozers

    I get it, but sounds a bit more boring than I imagined it would be. I guess the selling point is the convenience of access to girls without having to do the legwork on your own which can be expensive and time consuming. For those of you that have been to European brothels where all the women are completely nude, I imagined that the women would be nude or scantilly clad so you would see what you're getting as well as enticing you to purchase the merch.

    Quote Originally Posted by CharmCityDave  [View Original Post]
    There is no nudity at the pool. They get complaints from the neighbors as it is. At night in the bar there will be strip shows and some girls will sometimes get a little more wild, especially if guys are tipping them to do so.

  15. #47510
    Quote Originally Posted by Onojdi  [View Original Post]
    I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

    I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

    Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.

    Here you will read a lot of info about SWs, Centro girls, cheap options, etc. My report is for people who are looking for something else. I did not find a lot of info about that kind of travellers. I mean, people who are looking for a normal girls, working something in real life, going to university and so on. If you want a quality girl with tight pussy that did not fucked 100+ mens in the last 2 months, then go to Instagram. Send tons of messages, some of them will be answered and then it's easy. Colombian girls are super friendly, willing to meet gringos and to have some fun. Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you.

    And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

    I booked an Airbnb with a living room with a big nice sofa, kitchen with a bar area with 2 bar chairs. Separate bedroom. All the time I had in stock beer, wine, ice cream, chocolate and things like that. The effect is that the girl comes and then did not want to leave. Most of the times the girls stayed 4-5-6 hours. We fucked like crazy animals, drinking naked all the time, the girls are dancing, having fun hours after they planed to leave. And they know how to show their gratitude to you for the good time that they have.

    So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

    The summary was:

    - 7 different girls. Almost all of them stayed 5+ hours. The "oldest" was 23 years old. Most of them 20-21.

    - 3 asses fucked, one of them virgin. And she stayed from 6 pm to midnight. Yeah, it was really memorable night!

    - one 18 years old lesbian, living with her girlfriend from more then a year. And yeah, you can see that from her Insta profile.

    - Tons of photos, videos and good memories. With most of the girls we keep in touch even after I came back.

    - I showed the photos and the videos to my friends and now everybody either hates me or wants to come to Colombia. Or both jajaja.

    Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.
    Hey, we all roll differently. Some are into fb, others Lleras, others Fas Dos, others Centro. Me, I'm a strictly casa man; apparently not many of us around now. However, you have piqued my interest in Instagram. You stated "Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you". My experience has been that those who want $ have been significantly hotter than those who want just me. Obviously, you younger and handsomer guys out there may fare differently.

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