American Women

[Xpartan]

Thanks to those that responded. Please keep them coming I will keep updating.

I wanted to keep my mouth shut initially and maybe I should've, but here is my $0. 02 anyway.

It sounds to me like you care about this girl and want to find a reason to make it work. Of course, I can be a way, way off.

But if I'm not, there is no shame in it; welcome to being human.

However, if you do want it to work, I hope you realize that a bottle of wine daily for a woman is alcoholism.

Whether she's sad because she can't have you or because you're not enough for her, or because of a thousand of other reasons is irrelevant.

She has a habit. If you want to even try to make it work, you two should have a conversation about it first.

Unfortunately, like every alcoholic and addict I've known in my life, she's most likely in denial. And this conversation may not end well for your relationship.

I'm just saying, there might be other considerations here, not just "upping your game. ".

[D Cups]

Guys,

I'm trying to figure out the one thing I'm missing here. I do have a lot to offer. Definitely more than enough in pretty much every department. Including confidence, dick skills, humor, personality. Etc. I apologize if I sound arrogant that is not my intention. I have always been able to pick up broads so I don't think it is the issue. But this one is keeping me at an arms distance. And I told her flat out maybe I'm just not the normal man she would be dreaming of, and I would understand because for many women I might not be there cup of tea. However, making it worse she claims it is her. So cliche she acknowledges but it is her own mind. It is playing tricks on me because I feel there has to be a flaw as if the right guy came in I'm sure she would drop everything and spread legs.

Obviously y'all will tell me to run, but I actually think that maybe there is a flaw in my game I need to fix, and I really enjoy my time with her. And we do get naked together so that confuses things more as we are not just friends, except most of the time we are or cuddle buddies. Maybe, there is not a flaw and it really is her! I dunno. Anyone have any ideas how to flush this out? I'm very direct so maybe I just need to hear the truth and she won't tell because she wants me around, so maybe I need to hear it from one of you. Anyway. You can tell AW are as fucked as they come and I can't wait to go back to SA for at least a month in Spring. Thailand next fall too.

I dunno man. I'm not a shrink and don't advocate for shrinks. If you decide to explore this with a shrink or a psychologist more than likely if she is a woman she will take the woman's side and it will be two against one. The broads are always trying to change the man to be what they want. Herein lies the problem. Get a broad that just accepts you and stop trying to blame yourself. Asians, particularly Filipinas, are known for being submissive and compliant as well as domestic and horny. Not known for their smarts, however, I find this to be a plus as women who ask too many questions are just trouble. Latinas can be gorgeous fuck buddies and domestic but what a fucking temper if you make them angry. The Filipina equivalent is a thing called tampo which is basically the silent treatment. Unknown to them I think most men enjoy the silence. Broads talk way too much anyways. Communication studies reveal that women say three times more words than me on the average. And most of it is meaningless dribble about nothingness or their fleeing emotions. I say stuff your dick in their mouth and find one you can at least tolerate most of the time. Good luck, man. I have no real answers or mind-blowing insights, just experience.

[OldSchool318]

Thanks to those that responded. Please keep them coming I will keep updating.

The cuddling response definitely feels true. I did it again all last night. I actually love it but it does feel empty without the normal finish after awhile.

Especially after I have been all over and had my dick is some real dimes sometimes 2 at a time. She even knows my nature and still keeps it in check because she is "trying to figure out her shit."

Also, Doom is very right. The guy who wrote that is probably not playing for our team LOL. And I know for a fact without knowing Doom himself that he has the life, because I have lived that too.

Also for the guy who fucks the fatties I have done that too ain't no shame in it. But don't let the one from Mexico come in and get Americanized because chances are she will. But the point you made about "hypergamy" really stands out. I'm probably a solid 7 but because she can fuck and get used by a 9 she will. That's funny though as I probably do the same shit! If I can fuck a 9 I will and have LOL. The difference is I won't put all my energy into the 9 knowing she doesn't give a fuck. The 7 will live at the 9's feet and he will piss on her and she will lap it up and won't give the 7 the time of day.

Even today we went out with her kids and did football Sunday and had a blast, but tonight she is probably sexting some other asshole. And that is the story of the AW. I'm not accepting it either. I'm just wasting time and enjoying life until I can get on a plane again, which I hope is ASAP.

[DoomBringer321]

I am as usual getting up to my morning routine after profaning the misses as it should be done always, I was having a nice breakfast and called ma man gringo loco he's considering residency for the fine state of Ecuador, it would be awesome to have a wingman permanently so that we could spread the seed far and wide to all the vaginas of the earth as I have professed in my new bible called Carnal nutrition.

So I am having a great day sort of until one of my homies in the US decided it was an awesome idea to introduce me to some bullshit article written by a sugar booty white boy called Andrew Court in the New York POST, you see players I am an ex-pat and my fellow Americans irritate me to no end, I hardly ever bother to watch the news and get aggravated for no reason, and it's my firm belief that the current status of western hetero normal relations is a complete shit show, in fact when the civil war starts I shall observe the mushroom clouds from afar as my wife is cooking dinner and have my two side girls one of them with her mouth on my dick while the other feeds me grapes, as it should be.

I proceeded to read what this stupid fucker is blabbering about, and right away in the title you can tell he is not in team "male", so allow me the opportunity on this board to break down the logic or lack thereof, and how it pertains to the current heterosexual dynamics in the west.

The article starts to explain the Golden Penis Syndrome he calls it "an arrogance that stems from the assumption that a steady supply of females will be sexually interested in them" I call this an abundance mindset, you know it's interesting women control the dating market they control access to sex. It's a known fact that women control access to sex but men control access to relationships, but let's be clear in today's environment if there is no sex, there is no relationship so women control everything.

Mr. Andrew Court calls the "abundance mindset" something that is arrogant and he goes on to say "Golden penis syndrome has led these smug males to engage in dastardly dating practices, such as cheating and ghosting because they're confident that another woman will always be waiting around the corner."

Amazing commentary by Mr. Court go ahead and give that mother fucker a booing sound, so by his reasoning because a small group of men has figured out, that they are going to be swimming in pussy no matter what, all of a sudden, they are smug, all of a sudden, their strategies are "dastardly, cheating and ghosting" did it ever occur to this primate that women have done the same thing since time immemorial. The female species in the west cannot stand it when men have a decided advantage on the sexual marketplace, they cannot stand it when men play the game better than they do, this is the only time that is a problem.

Modern women will date 10 guys, cheat on all of them, they will ghost guys and flake on them, eat dinner on a man's dime with no intention of escalating, but when men play the game, you hear the words "men ain't shit, men are dogs, men are trash, etc. , etc."

So according to Mr. Court what we do is considered "dastardly" yet the western female species and you can find articles and scientific studies online that back this up, 30% of women go out with men, just to get fed, 0 romantic interest, there are articles online that called this "smart dating" and "financial shrewdness" yet there is a gentleman who was coined by the press as the "Dine-and-dash dater" who got national ridicule and prison time for doing the exact same thing. So, when men do it it's "dastardly" but when women do it it's "smart" "empowering" "you go girl" "never settle" but when we men do it, because of our abundance mindset it's smug and arrogant.

The article goes on to say that the term was coined by frustrated female students at Sarah Lawrence College in upstate New York, where ¾ of all enrollees are of the fairer sex. Journalist John Birger believes many college-educated men in their 20's, 30's, and 40's have also developed Golden Penis Syndrome because they're similar in high demand when it comes to dating.

Jon Birger is the author of "Date-onomics: How Dating Became a Lopsided Numbers Game."

"The sex ratios among college-educated, hetero singles in Manhattan is approximately three women for every two men. I've interviewed a lot of men who were continuing to take advantage of that imbalance," Birger told Mel Magazine.

So, all of this is characterized as "taking advantage" yet what would a thinking a rational human characterize western women when they swipe left and right on Badoo, tinder, bumblebee, Christian mingles and other dating apps, taking advantage of thirsty dudes. Yet no one is complaining about that, no one is complaining that men strike out on the dating apps because women have a lot of dating options in said apps. So according to this author, when men do it is "dastardly" when women do it it's simply "exercising their options."

When we break down this disparity in how men and women are judged we are not even counting the following statistics that again you can look up with any cursory glance on the net, women file for divorce over 60% of the time, 30% of women commit paternity fraud which is not a crime in most states or in Europe, most men come out of divorce court most likely financially destitute.

It's no wonder why younger men do not take women for anything other than sex in modern times.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/men-wi...nce-for-women/

https://la.eater.com/2019/1/17/18186...es-restaurants

[DoomBringer321]

My thought on the subject, let's open up the debate.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...745&viewfull=1#post2622745.

[Appalachian]

I started dabbling in mongering specifically because of the quality of the American girls I was finding. I lack social skills. I'm an engineer. On the other hand I'm attractive and fit. Not over the top gym fit but I can hike 20 miles in a day. The girls here have too many options or at least think they do so they start nitpicking as much as they can. I have a few flaws like anybody and I've found that the 7's or higher gravitate toward sleeping with 9's or higher. Hypergamy. That's left me with mostly 4's or 5's when I am at least a 7's.

I've dated mostly overweight girls. Not 180-200 lbs which I'm fine with but 230-280. Among those I had one I really liked who I tried to date seriously. I found out after wasting 9 months that she had been cheating the whole time. This girl was a 4 in the face and about 280 lbs. That was a big hit to my self esteem.

So I've been doing this a little and eating casually in the us. Hit a few kink clubs, etc. Now I'm feeling much better snd actually found a Mexican tinder girl I'm dating. She's very attractive. Basically my ideal features plus she's kind and genuinely interested in me. 7 years younger. I know moving to the us might be part of what I have to offer but I'm fine with that.

[Steve 9696]

Guys,

I'm trying to figure out the one thing I'm missing here. I do have a lot to offer. Definitely more than enough in pretty much every department. Including confidence, dick skills, humor, personality. Etc. I apologize if I sound arrogant that is not my intention. I have always been able to pick up broads so I don't think it is the issue. But this one is keeping me at an arms distance. And I told her flat out maybe I'm just not the normal man she would be dreaming of, and I would understand because for many women I might not be there cup of tea. However, making it worse she claims it is her. So cliche she acknowledges but it is her own mind. It is playing tricks on me because I feel there has to be a flaw as if the right guy came in I'm sure she would drop everything and spread legs.

Obviously y'all will tell me to run, but I actually think that maybe there is a flaw in my game I need to fix, and I really enjoy my time with her. And we do get naked together so that confuses things more as we are not just friends, except most of the time we are or cuddle buddies. Maybe, there is not a flaw and it really is her! I dunno. Anyone have any ideas how to flush this out? I'm very direct so maybe I just need to hear the truth and she won't tell because she wants me around, so maybe I need to hear it from one of you. Anyway. You can tell AW are as fucked as they come and I can't wait to go back to SA for at least a month in Spring. Thailand next fall too.

I would submit there is nothing wrong with you and this is textbook post-kids American woman. Certainly in my situation and many guys I know once their wife had kids her sex desire went out the window. So I would say she typical or at least common. She doesn't enjoy or crave sex. She does it with you out of obligation to try to keep you. But she'the rather just cuddle. This is all about her and not you. Find urself a pre-kids mid twenties gal if you want to have some great sex and have it often. Even tho mine are indirectly paid as Sugar Babies (see Seeking Arrangement thread) you can't tell me they don't enjoy and want the sex. Many twenty somethings these days are free and liberated in a good way. They enjoy sex and lots of it.

[OldSchool318]

Understood, Old School. Good that you can travel and get some. I stopped dating AWs 12 years ago now opting instead for frequent travel to Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Costa Rica, Colombia, Curacao and Dominican Republic. My employer paid me to go to most of these countries so I feel very lucky. Most of my buddies that are tied to AWs are miserable and I can see why because the broads have fat asses, don't put out and are never happy with what you do for them. Like I said I'm retiring in Philippines as soon as they let me in. Looks like February 2022 now. I do have a brown sugar that sucks me off for 40 or 50 bucks a pop so that helps, too. Good luck, man.

Guys,

I'm trying to figure out the one thing I'm missing here. I do have a lot to offer. Definitely more than enough in pretty much every department. Including confidence, dick skills, humor, personality. Etc. I apologize if I sound arrogant that is not my intention. I have always been able to pick up broads so I don't think it is the issue. But this one is keeping me at an arms distance. And I told her flat out maybe I'm just not the normal man she would be dreaming of, and I would understand because for many women I might not be there cup of tea. However, making it worse she claims it is her. So cliche she acknowledges but it is her own mind. It is playing tricks on me because I feel there has to be a flaw as if the right guy came in I'm sure she would drop everything and spread legs.

Obviously y'all will tell me to run, but I actually think that maybe there is a flaw in my game I need to fix, and I really enjoy my time with her. And we do get naked together so that confuses things more as we are not just friends, except most of the time we are or cuddle buddies. Maybe, there is not a flaw and it really is her! I dunno. Anyone have any ideas how to flush this out? I'm very direct so maybe I just need to hear the truth and she won't tell because she wants me around, so maybe I need to hear it from one of you. Anyway. You can tell AW are as fucked as they come and I can't wait to go back to SA for at least a month in Spring. Thailand next fall too.

[Rocko20]

Run for your life and go anywhere in Latin America or Southeast Asia when it opens. All women are fucking nuts IMHO but American Women are the worst on the planet. Even the young guys with game and money are heeding this advice because they are sick and tired of all the bullshit they have to put up with AWs.

I agree. I'm pretty young with decent money and America is horrible for dating, women, mongering, etc. If you're not at least 6'2", and willing to buy them a bunch of stupid crap while living in a major city that has the most women, just forget about it.

I can go to the Dominican Republic with some flip flops, Thailand looking like a bum, or even to the Germany brothels and get more ass in 1 day than I could in 1 year in America.

The good news is millions of American men can't, won't, and don't go overseas which means more overseas women for the rest of us.

America is a place where you make your money, then take it overseas to spend it.

[D Cups]

This is where my money is. I need to be here a good amount of the time. I travel often like I wrote.

But I still need women in my life here in the US as paying gets expensive here. The one I wrote about doesn't really cost me anything. At least not money. Time, energy head creeps yes. LOL.

I'll keep posting adventures and updates but leaving is not an option right now.

Understood, Old School. Good that you can travel and get some. I stopped dating AWs 12 years ago now opting instead for frequent travel to Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Costa Rica, Colombia, Curacao and Dominican Republic. My employer paid me to go to most of these countries so I feel very lucky. Most of my buddies that are tied to AWs are miserable and I can see why because the broads have fat asses, don't put out and are never happy with what you do for them. Like I said I'm retiring in Philippines as soon as they let me in. Looks like February 2022 now. I do have a brown sugar that sucks me off for 40 or 50 bucks a pop so that helps, too. Good luck, man.

[D Cups]

This is where my money is. I need to be here a good amount of the time. I travel often like I wrote.

But I still need women in my life here in the US as paying gets expensive here. The one I wrote about doesn't really cost me anything. At least not money. Time, energy head creeps yes. LOL.

I'll keep posting adventures and updates but leaving is not an option right now.

Understood Old School. Good that you can travel and get some on the side. I stopped dating AWs 12 years ago opting to travel frequently to Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Costa Rica, Colombia, Curacao, Mexico and Dominican Republic instead. But I had the kind of job that allowed the time off and even paid for me to go to many of theses countries. My buddies in the USA who are married or living together with their GF are mostly miserable. Their significant others are fat asses and never satisfied with anything the guy does for them. I do have a brown sugar that comes over to suck me off for 40 or 50 bucks between trips so that keeps me happy. Good luck man. Like I said I'm headed to Philippines to retire as soon as they let me in. Fuck the USA and especially California. Prices are out of control as well as the broads. I can't deal with it any more. I'm going somewhere where women treat you like a man and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

[DramaFree11]

Not wrong. Her gig is monster energy drinks and smoke stix. This combo causes massive anxiety in these women as well.

I am pretty sure unless you are the guy that causes her knees to get week (for whatever reason) you can do just about anything you want and she will keep coming. I have been on both sides of the coin. Otherwise no matter what there will always be a reason you are not good enough and they will probably never tell you.

Yes, I forgot about smoke stixs. 2 of my last 2 arrangements were hot, but both depressed. I told them too stop smoking that shit and lay off the sugar there lives would improve immediately.

I forgot the to mention how they dress. Yoga pants, gym shoes and ball caps just do not do it for me. Once in awhile it is cool, but they look so stupid in that outfit. Not to mention the Pajama party at airports these days, just a joke.

Now I am doing great professionally, but that comes with a trade off, I can not travel as much and very little free times. When I go to Mexico it is amazing, but the other 12-14 days I do want some companionship.

[OldSchool318]

Great report. So true about the wine. You forgot to mention 2 or 3 trips daily to Starbucks and a crappy diet. No wonder they are getting so fat and depressed. The whole thing is so sad, but I doubt there will be a change in American women anytime soon.

Not wrong. Her gig is monster energy drinks and smoke stix. This combo causes massive anxiety in these women as well.

I am pretty sure unless you are the guy that causes her knees to get week (for whatever reason) you can do just about anything you want and she will keep coming. I have been on both sides of the coin. Otherwise no matter what there will always be a reason you are not good enough and they will probably never tell you.

[OldSchool318]

Run for your life and go anywhere in Latin America or Southeast Asia when it opens. All women are fucking nuts IMHO but American Women are the worst on the planet. Even the young guys with game and money are heeding this advice because they are sick and tired of all the bullshit they have to put up with AWs.

This is where my money is. I need to be here a good amount of the time. I travel often like I wrote.

But I still need women in my life here in the US as paying gets expensive here. The one I wrote about doesn't really cost me anything. At least not money. Time, energy head creeps yes. LOL.

I'll keep posting adventures and updates but leaving is not an option right now.

[DramaFree11]

As long as this lasts I will periodically update.

I travel a lot especially to Latin and South America and much of it is documented here and have lived in a few of those countries so you already know I have known the good life.

In CR I have a Tica that always takes care of me in everyway. I also have a few Colombia that can't wait to see me when I go back. Unfortunately due to business I can't be there as much as wanted. So I have to date in the states because like any man I get lonely.

I am in shape, money in my pocket, and dress well. I am also not quite old yet.

Anyway. I date a 30 year old Blonde with 2 kids. She is to me very beautiful and she is kind and she does cook for me when I go over. She also is fun to go out to the clubs and the strip clubs too. We have a good time together.

However, she is also a chronic wine drinker. Like most other women I know of her age these days, they drink about a bottle at least every day. Sometimes it is harder booze, and Sunday game day it is beer. There is a constant sadness underneath the beauty which makes no sense to me as her life is pretty great and she clears north of 100 k..

Great report. So true about the wine. You forgot to mention 2 or 3 trips daily to Starbucks and a crappy diet. No wonder they are getting so fat and depressed. The whole thing is so sad, but I doubt there will be a change in American women anytime soon.