Pattaya Reports

[Banana Boi]

There has to be a low alcohol version for lady drinks as they simply cannot be in the position where they have to drink full strength alcohol every night and in large quantities.

I would suspect virtually every bar in Thailand sells lower alcohol versions of lady drinks when needed.

Really depends on the girl. There are quite a few gogo bars in Pattaya that have free bottles of alcohol available to the girls. Beach Club is the one that comes to mind where you see girls just sitting at the free alcohol table taking shot after shot and by 11 pm they're hammered! Great time to see them for free DFK but not so great if you want to BF them. One of my favorite girls is an alcoholic and she works at Beach Club because she wants free booze.

It's ironic many guys want Thai girls to remain slim yet drink tons of alcohol night after night. The two don't go hand in hand.

[EihTooms]

And the Customers: who wants to take home a girl who can barely stand after 20 tequilas?

From what I have read and heard for most of my mongering life, there are many, many, many punters who either want or really need the girls they take to be as close to falling down drunk or comatose as possible in order to get what they want from them in the room. I agree with your take on it. Not my thing at all.

As always, YMMV.

[Member #4753]

Why not name the bar to help those who are upset at buying watered down drinks?

There has to be a low alcohol version for lady drinks as they simply cannot be in the position where they have to drink full strength alcohol every night and in large quantities.

I would suspect virtually every bar in Thailand sells lower alcohol versions of lady drinks when needed.

[Explorer8939]

Because that would be useful information, unlike what his reports are about! Hopefully soon we can just book a ticket land and have fun without all the smoke screens! But seems to be getting a bit better, also people need to check with their airlines about health insurance some airlines it comes with tickets, for example I was looking at Emirates airline and it says (I think) 25 k Covid insurance is included!

Anyone who spends much time at bars in Pattaya knows that tequila shots for ladies are watered down.

You see a customer buy 10 shots for a lady, she will drink them, make a show of being drunk, and then sober up the moment the customer leaves.

[Explorer8939]

Why not name the bar to help those who are upset at buying watered down drinks?

The mamasan worked at many bars. But she was just telling me the standard practice in Pattaya bars.

It got so bad with watered down tequila that I brought bottles of real tequila to a bar for my personal use, and paid the bar by the shot for my tequila.

[Goferring]

I thought the reason was simple. The bars want to sell drinks. The girls wants to be able to stay healthy to work everyday. One way to resolve the conflict between health and profit is watered down drinks.

And the Customers: who wants to take home a girl who can barely stand after 20 tequilas?

[Nounce]

I thought the reason was simple. The bars want to sell drinks. The girls wants to be able to stay healthy to work everyday. One way to resolve the conflict between health and profit is watered down drinks.

[RacShack]

Why not name the bar to help those who are upset at buying watered down drinks?

Because that would be useful information, unlike what his reports are about! Hopefully soon we can just book a ticket land and have fun without all the smoke screens! But seems to be getting a bit better, also people need to check with their airlines about health insurance some airlines it comes with tickets, for example I was looking at Emirates airline and it says (I think) 25 k Covid insurance is included!

[Banana Boi]

Every once in a while, I will spend a night with a Mamasan. The last one and I drank 3 bottles of wine, during which she explained about giving bargirls watered down drinks.

Why not name the bar to help those who are upset at buying watered down drinks?

[Mr Enternational]

I think Mr E. Is fine with people buying lady drinks to socialize and have fun. However, he believes people are buying lady drinks for the wrong reason. They think that buying more LD's will improve their chance to barfine the girl that they like.

It was not my belief, but what I gathered from SL's reports. Was I wording myself wrong? How were you able to get what I was saying, but many others understood it as I was saying not to buy drinks at all?

I even mentioned that I would once in a while buy a drink AFTER the chick showed me what she was about or when I was having fun with her. I would not just walk in and say I have to buy a drink for that pretty girl over there, then she might like me and let me barfine her as it seems SL and Sam were doing in several cases.

It is like walking onto a car lot giving a non-refundable down-payment only to be told this car is not for sale. Walk in, do a quick test drive, then put some money down when you realize this car will fulfill my needs. Don't throw money at it hoping it will change from not for sale to for sale, when you can find that out in the beginning by simply asking.

If a lady says no, some people think that revisiting and buying many more Lady drinks, will change her mind. Mr E. Is saying that this is usually unsuccessful.

Not one time did he say we finally bought enough drinks and the girls decided to let us pay them for sex instead of rejecting us.

The last reports are coming from people that enjoy paying ladydrinks instead of fucking the girls,.

Exactly.. And there is nothing wrong with that. It is only something wrong with believing the more drinks you buy the chick will decide to go with you when you still have to pay her anyway. If she is going then she is going from the beginning and not because of the 3 140 baht drinks you bought her (earning her what from 60 baht to 150 baht?) versus the 1000 baht barfine and 2500 baht you would have to pay her.

The cost of a lady drink is for the time they spend with you. I personally don't care what they drink or if they tip it on the ground.

For me I expect to get say 15 minutes of chat time

In most bars you don't have to buy a drink for 15 minutes of chat time. In some bars if there is no drink in front of the girl or if the glass is empty then the mamasan will make her move on no matter how much she wants to stay and chat.

[Explorer8939]

Every once in a while, I will spend a night with a Mamasan. The last one and I drank 3 bottles of wine, during which she explained about giving bargirls watered down drinks. Actually, I knew all that before, but I politely listened. She talked about code words the girls used when they didn't want to drink any more alcohol, how to mix Coke with soda so looks like Sangsom, watered down bottles of Tequila, etc.

[Paolo99]

Maybe buying drinks made some sense in the days when you could then take the girl to your hotel FOR THE WHOLE NIGHT. Since then the policy shifted from whole night to short time. Recently it has shifted again from short time to maybe not even that (no sex).

Not a big loss anyway, girls that were staying the whole night were basically sleeping the whole night. Most of the time it's better to have them out of your room and sleep alone after having fucked them twice in a two hours laps time.

As for your last sentence, I doubt it. The last reports are coming from people that enjoy paying ladydrinks instead of fucking the girls, I wouldn't take any conclusion based on these recent reports.

[Houston Player]

The cost of a lady drink is for the time they spend with you. I personally don't care what they drink or if they tip it on the ground.

For me I expect to get say 15 minutes of chat time so I can work out if the lady is worth buying another drink (or another 15 minutes).

If I am looking to barfine a girl I will know after 30 minutes (or 2 drinks) if she is worth being barfined or even if she can be barfined. I generally won't invest more than 2 or 3 drinks in this case. Total cost is probably $15, no big deal.

Some nights I don't really want to barfine a girl and may just be there to chill by myself or with fellow deviants. In this scenario I will probably buy 2 or 3 drinks per hour maybe spread over a few girls. If one girl happens to be entertaining enough to the point that everyone wants her to stay an hour or two I might tip her something like a few hundred or even a 1000 baht. I am paying for the entertainment value and if it costs $100 this is well within my means and represents value to me.

I know that everyone has different budgets and what represents value to them. There is no right and wrong.

Exactly the way I normally do it. I don't barfine that often anymore because frankly I can get laid anytime I want from my regulars with which I'm guaranteed the service I expect. I also don't normally barfine if I drink too much. I normally go out to go-go bars with my friends on Tuesday and Friday evenings every week and it's mostly to drink and have fun, I always buy lady drinks, I can drink alone at home. If a lady new or already a friend is really turning me on and agrees to my service requests I will either barfine her or have her come over after work. With the bars closing early it doesn't make sense to pay a barfine at 10:30 when the bar closes at 11:00.

We're expats and I already know many of the ladies and even if I don't I'm well known in the bar and she can find out about me from her friends in the bar or Mama. I don't have a girlfriend and I don't want one. However I do have many lady friends some work in bars, some in shops or restaurants, some are students and some are just freelance.

Edited to add that I live in Bangkok and what I described above I do in Bangkok. I was responding to the buying of lady drinks but realized that this thread is in the Pattaya forum. I only visit Pattaya on occasion and not often with the Covid restrictions. The Covid rules are being enforced less and less in Bangkok but in Pattaya they're still being enforced.

[Member #4753]

The cost of a lady drink is for the time they spend with you. I personally don't care what they drink or if they tip it on the ground.

For me I expect to get say 15 minutes of chat time so I can work out if the lady is worth buying another drink (or another 15 minutes).

If I am looking to barfine a girl I will know after 30 minutes (or 2 drinks) if she is worth being barfined or even if she can be barfined. I generally won't invest more than 2 or 3 drinks in this case. Total cost is probably $15, no big deal.

Some nights I don't really want to barfine a girl and may just be there to chill by myself or with fellow deviants. In this scenario I will probably buy 2 or 3 drinks per hour maybe spread over a few girls. If one girl happens to be entertaining enough to the point that everyone wants her to stay an hour or two I might tip her something like a few hundred or even a 1000 baht. I am paying for the entertainment value and if it costs $100 this is well within my means and represents value to me.

I know that everyone has different budgets and what represents value to them. There is no right and wrong.

[Gonz0]

Mr E is saying don't get taken advantage of by the girls. The drinks are not even real drinks. He has not said don't buy drink either. I don't think he is trying belittle anyone. Maybe someone can give him a lesson on how to express his opinion better.

I am on autopilot a lot of time when mongering and just follow what others are doing. His posts do make me stop and think about some very obvious things but that does not mean I am just going to do it like he said.

I know some don't like his posts but there some think it's valuable.

Never been to Thailand and I am making some assumptions based on what I am reading here.

I think Mr E. Is fine with people buying lady drinks to socialize and have fun. However, he believes people are buying lady drinks for the wrong reason.

They think that buying more LD's will improve their chance to barfine the girl that they like.

He is saying that whether you buy 1 or 10 lady drinks, when you eventually get around to asking her to bar fine, the answer will be the same.

If a lady says no, some people think that revisiting and buying many more Lady drinks, will change her mind. Mr E. Is saying that this is usually unsuccessful.

I think the more that guys chase these girls using lady drinks, the less likely the girls will be to barfine. The girls will end up making enough money from lady drinks, so the plan of buying lots of lady drinks to get the barfine fails.

There is no one size fits all here. There are different types of girls that will respond to different approaches.

Some girls are experienced, straight out pros. They know their price. You pay she plays. She doesn't need to get to know you or feel comfortable with you. She is confident that she can look after herself. With these ladies I agree, lady drinks are optional.

But there are also girls, new to the scene. Not experienced at P4 P, who may be a bit hesitant. They might need to spend some time with you before they feel comfortable and agree to barfine. I can see how buying a few drinks and investing some time could pay off with these girls.