Seeking Arrangements

[AsianPursuits]

For the first night, I was pretty price insensitive, and that is because I love strange. But after seeing them at least a half dozen times, I was ready to move on most of the time. However, instead of disappearing on them or breaking up with them, I would just say that my financial situation became tight and would not be able to see them as much, or not be able to see them at all in the near future. It was not a bluff. I really was ready to walk away. But pretty much all of them reduced their ask. For example, two gals said give me what you can. Most gals said it was okay not to give them anything, but maybe help them later if they needed it. Some even said that I did not have to give them anything anymore. I guess they became attached to me and did not want the relationship to end. But a couple of these gals started looking for other SBs on the side. But the major downside was that these gals then started thinking that we were in a real relationship, since it was less transactional based, and that opens up another can of worms.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I have one specific girl in my mind that I want to tame her expectations. My last few visits were 2 hours listening to her and resolving her life problems and 1 hour of great sex. But she still has financial needs so I haven't been back to see her. I guess I have nothing to lose as I won't continue with her current expectations.

[Midwestern]

I've seeing few gals here in my home town. I've found that their financial expectations decreases over time.

I started with $400-$500 per night but they now have a lower expectation.

Hopefully they feel it is less risky and I'm more reliable. OR I was always overpaying.

I prefer the first reason.

Do you guys find that the same girls will lower their financials needs as time passes.

For the first night, I was pretty price insensitive, and that is because I love strange. But after seeing them at least a half dozen times, I was ready to move on most of the time. However, instead of disappearing on them or breaking up with them, I would just say that my financial situation became tight and would not be able to see them as much, or not be able to see them at all in the near future. It was not a bluff. I really was ready to walk away. But pretty much all of them reduced their ask. For example, two gals said give me what you can. Most gals said it was okay not to give them anything, but maybe help them later if they needed it. Some even said that I did not have to give them anything anymore. I guess they became attached to me and did not want the relationship to end. But a couple of these gals started looking for other SBs on the side. But the major downside was that these gals then started thinking that we were in a real relationship, since it was less transactional based, and that opens up another can of worms.

[AsianPursuits]

I've seeing few gals here in my home town. I've found that their financial expectations decreases over time.

I started with $400-$500 per night but they now have a lower expectation.

Hopefully they feel it is less risky and I'm more reliable. OR I was always overpaying.

I prefer the first reason.

Do you guys find that the same girls will lower their financials needs as time passes.

[Nounce]

When I used SA in the states....

In US, probably, men are targeted for marriage too. The first girl only asked for money based on her living standard, not how much the father makes. The second girl and third girl fell in love with the men and wanted marriage, not money.

The second girl was able to use her saving to start a successful business in her home town but was hit by Covid. She ended up going into prostitution to support her family and her sister who is in college. It's a long story.

[Elvis 2008]

I also met girls who didn't ask money and we spent good amount of time at nice restaurants but no sex too. Those are the ones very selective and / or looking for long term arrangements.

Girls who don't ask money upfront generally turned out to be better experience than the ones who ask money upfront. Also I paid more to the girls who didn't ask money upfront if their service is better or I liked them. If someone sets a $ upfront that is what they got.

It is funny how that works isn't it? The same thing always happens with me. I went for the sex sooner than you did in most cases, but the best women want to prove they are more than just a good time in bed.

[Elvis 2008]

While I was traveling in Asia I met a regular girl via wechat. She was in town visiting her father whom had a new wife. Some family issues but she seemed genuine girl. We chatted via wechat then met for a drink one evening. Didn't get drunk but held her hand walking her safely back to her hotel, then room. I wasn't prepared as I thought it was just a friendly chat. So, no condoms, she revealed a super hot body and a certain eagerness. So a few rounds later I left at dawn. We chatted more but our schedules didn't align again. A month later I got her message about being pregnant. I chatted a little but had to cut the communication. I had a burner wechat which was her only connection to me. Was it a scam or was it real? I will never know. Some days I have distant thoughts to try track her down but I have chosen not to pursue her. I cannot see any good coming from it.

You are right and are smart not to have reached out to her. My gut instinct is if you did not know her that well, she was probably running a scam. I think women who do this are like the biggest scum on earth. You probably gleaned a little more about her character that led you to cut her off. I think you were wise to trust your instincts.

[Midwestern]

I have seen two cases in the last few years. One is a working girl. The girl went back to her home town and only asked for US $ 350 / month for support. The kid's DNA matches the father's.

When I used SA in the states, I met this one gal that said that her friend used SA and got pregnant from her SD, and so now her friend was set for life because the SD pays for child support. That story scared the crap out of me of course. Made me wonder if some of my SBs at the time might intentionally try to get knocked up by me.

Last year I had a great arrangement with a gal, but she kept trying to get me to CIP. I then later found out that she was trying to get pregnant before her recently married younger sister. That scared me and I started paying attention to her p-calendar, but eventually I stopped seeing her.

But then I always think, "could they get my contact info if she went to the hotel and asked who registered the room on April 21 in room 252?
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Yeah, I worry about this too. I bet if she does get preggers, then maybe she can call the police to force the hotel to reveal the identity of the booked guest. I guess it would depend on the country and its privacy laws.

I guess the first highlight was clit rubbing with dick. I'the never done this before but got to thinking that a dick makes an awfully good clit massager.

Ha, another great FR! Thanks, Steve. Just wanted to add my experience with clit rubbing with dick. Last year, I did it to a gal in an MP. At first, she was scared that I was trying to have sex with her, but after some DATY, she gave in to the clit rubbing with my dick, and she was going crazy horny, and so I then slipped it in, and she went even more crazy horny and just let me bareback her in the shop. Yeah, pretty stupid, but my little head had the better of me that day.

More recently, with an incall pro, after she gave me a great BBBJ, she was ready to do the deed, but she was not wet yet, and so while she was on top, she started rubbing her clit on my dick to get wet and horny, but she got so horny that she started raw dogging me. Again, my little head allowed it, but when I turned her around for missionary, she came to her senses and forced us to use a cover, which I was pretty relieved about.

[Steve 9696]

So I haven't been spamming you guys with Shayla stories, but a minor update is probably due. We've gone to twice a week at her urging. I don't know if this was a ploy to get more money but I guess not because I haven't given her more and she still wants to meetup twice a week. Got to say she seems totally into the fucking and is still going strong if it takes me 40 minutes to finish!

Just a couple highlights from this week. She brought a big ole vibrator last time and we put it to good use. She asked if she should bring it again and of course I said sure but we also talked about experimenting more which leaves the door wide open.

I guess the first highlight was clit rubbing with dick. I'the never done this before but got to thinking that a dick makes an awfully good clit massager. So after some great FIV and fucking I was in the Steve position and pulled out and started using my dick to slide it up and down and around on her clit. She really liked this. I'the slip in for a few strokes and come out again and do dick clit massage and back in. Really recommend this. When doing her clit it feels great but a bit of a tease. So when you slip back in it feels wonderful. Same for her. Alternating clit with full on reentry seemed to really get her going.

So far all our dates have been one long round of sex. I'd toyed with a round 2 but it never really materialized. We'the just cuddle a long time. Somewhere I vaguely recall mentioning two rounds but it was a nice surprise when on bed number 2 she pulled me down close after a half hour of fucking and whispered "you have time for two rounds tonight?" Why yes ma'am I do!

After round one we are snuggling under the covers and I am the big spoon. After maybe only ten minutes she takes my right hand down between her legs. Naughty girl. I discover she's been vibing herself as we snuggle and she's a hot wet mess! This girl is a horny beast. Well it's only about a minute of FIV before I'm hard again and sliding it in in spoon position. Don't usually do that but it was nice.

Final round I am tough to finish and she started me too soon without any rest but damn she feels amazing. Finally I ask her to do what she did the other night to finish which was amazing. I am standing at the side of the bed and she rolls on her back and dives under the hood. Amazing sloppy ball work. Not a couple licks but full on wet and wild ball worship. With my hand on shaft I shoot a nice pearl necklace in relatively short order. That is a GREAT position if you shave your balls and your girl is willing to do the under carriage with gusto. (These are correlated!)

Finally the other thing I love about Shayla is she's not one of those neat freaks and scared of a good cum dousing. Because as we cuddle cum is dripping down into her hair and on and into her ear and we just laugh about it and smear it about on her chest. Just totally at ease with sex and all that comes with it. Super nice!

[AsianPursuits]

But then I always think, "could they get my contact info if she went to the hotel and asked who registered the room on April 21 in room 252?.

Pretty easy to get occupant details by paying the local hotel staff for the details of course.

In my case I was visiting her hotel room, so no track there.

Interesting the anecdotal stories that when the girl is genuinely pregnant she wants nothing from the guy.

Similar story with a ex-GF Filipina single mum pregnant at 17 years old. She and her family want nothing to do with the pinoy father. Certainly unfair on the guy as he is interested in the child, but hers is an all Filipino situation.

[Desin]

There's no sadder tragedy in life than a child growing without a father (or mother).

I asked my regular how would she feel about bareback sessions with applying condom in the end. Since she has said she has a coil for contraception, I would only take the risk of semen entering her on the second round. Assuming, that she hadn't removed the coil without telling me, or that it would have been a lie from the start. Luckily, she said no. By rational mind it's still a totally unnecessary risk, but once that enters one's mind (after telling about the coil), it's hard to get it out. At least without asking for the possibility.

[Wanaf]

You have got game.

So, last week I posted about my best SB (Miss D) and then, a super model SB (Miss K) after a little bit of coaxing. I met "the" on Saturday night / Sunday, K on Wednesday.

For Thursday, I had lined up Miss M. She is a 19 why. O, student living about 150 kms from where I was visiting. Initially, she wanted me to come to her but then, I have to drive 150 kms, find a hotel and I was a bit not sure if it was worth it. Convinced her to take a train / bus to me and that I will cover her costs. She agreed but part of me was thinking that she wouldn't show up.

Wed night, until about 130/2 AM, I'm fucking Miss K. Although with condom, it was still a good fuck given the lead up to it was exciting (see previous report). Thu AM, Miss M was supposed to reach me at 1030 AM but part of me was thinking she wouldn't. However, around 8 AM, I get a text that Miss M is already on the way. I freshen up, still a bit tired but go to pick her from nearest train station. A bit of confusion as Googlemaps took me to a different place but eventually, I find her. Patiently waiting for me at the platform. Poor thing.

First look. Super hot, tall chick with flowing hair (just the way I like it). Cherubic face (Wait. Do I really want to fuck her? She has her jacket on, fully covered. So, couldn't assess rest...

[Nounce]

... Was it a scam or was it real?....

I have seen two cases in the last few years. One is a working girl. The girl went back to her home town and only asked for US $ 350 / month for support. The kid's DNA matches the father's.

The second case is a regular girl but dated a married Korean man. She found out he was married after she was pregnant. She refused the man's money and went back to her home country to give birth. After birth, she contacted the father on Facebook to show him his kid but she refused the father's request to visit.

Both girls are in SEA.

There was actually another girl in Colombia did the same. She also refused the man's money. I know the girl but the information is second hand.

Since it was a regular girl, I would want to find out more if it were me and at least provide some support.

[AmericanPi]

Man. That's a scary story.

Not trying to judge at all. Just saying I would be living in fear of a phone call or knock on the door for a long time.

I actually use a burner phone and email account too. But then I always think, "could they get my contact info if she went to the hotel and asked who registered the room on April 21 in room 252?

Bottom line: bag it up. Always bag it up.

While I was traveling in Asia I met a regular girl via wechat. She was in town visiting her father whom had a new wife. Some family issues but she seemed genuine girl. We chatted via wechat then met for a drink one evening. Didn't get drunk but held her hand walking her safely back to her hotel, then room. I wasn't prepared as I thought it was just a friendly chat. So, no condoms, she revealed a super hot body and a certain eagerness. So a few rounds later I left at dawn. We chatted more but our schedules didn't align again. A month later I got her message about being pregnant. I chatted a little but had to cut the communication. I had a burner wechat which was her only connection to me. Was it a scam or was it real? I will never know. Some days I have distant thoughts to try track her down but I have chosen not to pursue her. I cannot see any good coming from it..

[Spidy]

... I once had this 9 model from Germany. She moved from 300 to 600 and then back to 500 in 24 hours of whatsapp chat. I point blank told her "listen, lets not waste each others time. If there are guys willing to pay you so much, I am happy for you. Leave me alone".

She said "Look at me. You think you will get a hot one like me? I said "what makes you think I am looking for hotness quotient? I am looking for attitude quotient. Hotness is bonus but you score zero on attitude. Goodbye". She was left stunned and speechless. I walked off. Period.

You had me LMAO, at "...attitude quotient...you score zero on attitude". I'll have to remember to use that one.

Yeah, a women's looks aren't even #2 on my list. Not looking to rehash the topic (as I'm sure it been discussed ad nauseam here), but for me it is as follows: 1. Attitude 2.Body 3. Looks/Face.

Europe. LOL. USA. No way. US is such a waste in this. ...

I've yet to play in this dating space and may never do so, especially in the states. However, it is good to see/read from posts like this one and other contributing BMs to this thread, that there are fertile grounds, outside the US, in this dating space, for finding "what you want", at your price point.

To all, the knowledgeable info and the odd chuckle, is much appreciated. Cheers!

[AsianPursuits]

My biggest fear is a text in a few months saying I'm pregnant and in my country you're in the hook for 18 years so if you ever pass thru this airport we'll be seeing each other. Said nicely of course. Ain't worth it. Bag it up.

While I was traveling in Asia I met a regular girl via wechat. She was in town visiting her father whom had a new wife. Some family issues but she seemed genuine girl. We chatted via wechat then met for a drink one evening. Didn't get drunk but held her hand walking her safely back to her hotel, then room. I wasn't prepared as I thought it was just a friendly chat. So, no condoms, she revealed a super hot body and a certain eagerness. So a few rounds later I left at dawn. We chatted more but our schedules didn't align again. A month later I got her message about being pregnant. I chatted a little but had to cut the communication. I had a burner wechat which was her only connection to me. Was it a scam or was it real? I will never know. Some days I have distant thoughts to try track her down but I have chosen not to pursue her. I cannot see any good coming from it.

Anyway, point of my story, if you will BB girls in developing countries decide how you will deal with this issue. If I am not using contraception I will not cum inside.