Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

She may try to raise her price, and she might be able to find a few individuals who pay her higher price in the short term. But over time, in the long run, her price will have to drop if demand does not increase or she will simply run out of business. If she is able to get mongers to pay her increased price in the long term, it is because demand for her went up, and not because other mongers have to "make-up" for her decreased demand. That is ludicrous.

The most common pitfall of not understanding the Law of Supply & Demand is thinking that payment determines price.

The second most common pitfall is thinking that certain markets are "unique", like the Latin America puta market, and the Law of Supply and Demand somehow does not apply. As long as it is a free market, Supply & Demand rules.

The third most common pitfall is people is projecting personal experience into the scenario when virtually no one individual monger, even someone with numbers way average, can witness the actual dynamics of the Law of Supply & Demand in action. That takes macro economics..

He actually has a point. I've heard similar sentiments from several expat business owners in Medellin. Buildings will sit vacant for years because the owner won't budge of the price he wants.

Even my friend with the escort agency. I've tried to explain that it's better to drop prices to be competitive, than to have only a few customers. Run specials, offer first timer discounts, do something to get the phone ringing. Nope.

Individually, if you're dealing directly with the girl, if you handle it correctly, you can get the price dropped. However, dealing with girls who use a manager, like many of the Instagram girls, they are willing to sit indefinitely waiting for that payday.

[Osteoknot]

Imagine guy's that don't have any financial constraints or a budget, meaning they can afford to partake in their mongering venues as much as they want, in this situation, the real constraint becomes how many loads a guy is capable of blowing within hours.

I know guys, especially those who are older, who do not recharge as quickly who will at times go with a girl, and purposely hold back and save their load for another girl the same day or within hours.

Imagine your in a bar / club, or on the street, you've just finished with someone, and immediately afterwards in the same venue you see something that really get's your attention, but you know if you go with her, you won't finish as just not enough time has elapsed since the last one.

You talk about a frustrating situation, and truly a constraint, this is it, at least for me.

My wingman was slightly stunned today when I told him I didn't pop every single encounter. I said, "WTF, when I was averaging over 5 girls a day last trip did you think I was climaxing every time?" No fucking way. Maybe first and last. There are tons of ways to have fun without getting obsessed with orgasms. Probably one of my favorite things to do is edge all day then pull out on the last girl of the day and drench her face. Maybe tonight, with Catgirl, our first meeting this trip and she will be Number Three today. I am looking forward to it, with as little "desire" and "planning" as possible, jejeje.

Freckle left this morning for Peru. I have never spent so much time with one chica over four weeks. You may recall she was the chica to whom I made the bee-line when my plane landed here about a month ago. I cried like a baby for a few minutes but it's a good thing she left. We basically had nothing in common except total tolerance of each others' company and effortless sex. Not pussy whipped but another level I can't explain.

Then early Saturday morning I am off the the finca in Guatape for a birthday fiesta with Managerette. I was planning all kinds of new sexual escapades with her this weekend, our first overnight, but as usual the word "plan" comes back and bites me on the ass. Turns out it's going to bunk style accommodations, boys and girls in separate rooms! Jajaja, joke is on me but I don't mind. I will take some fotos but probably won't post until I get back. Chao, and Keep On Keepin' On!

Peaches is here.

[Osteoknot]

Maybe that is what you think will happen, but in Latin America everyone knows that the price will be raised to make up for the lost demand. To make more off 1 person is better than making less off a few people.

She may try to raise her price, and she might be able to find a few individuals who pay her higher price in the short term. But over time, in the long run, her price will have to drop if demand does not increase or she will simply run out of business. If she is able to get mongers to pay her increased price in the long term, it is because demand for her went up, and not because other mongers have to "make-up" for her decreased demand. That is ludicrous.

The most common pitfall of not understanding the Law of Supply & Demand is thinking that payment determines price.

The second most common pitfall is thinking that certain markets are "unique", like the Latin America puta market, and the Law of Supply and Demand somehow does not apply. As long as it is a free market, Supply & Demand rules.

The third most common pitfall is people is projecting personal experience into the scenario when virtually no one individual monger, even someone with numbers way average, can witness the actual dynamics of the Law of Supply & Demand in action. That takes macro economics.

Exceptions could possibly be your micro market example, but even then, unless you are personally tracking every single encounter she has and what was paid to her over a significant period of time (months), then again, no dice. Even if you said you did that and came to your same conclusion, then I would have to assume your analysis was in error. Even the puta to whom the activity is occurring, can have extreme self-bias as to what is actually happening. And let's face it, a lot of these girls are clueless about such matters.

You may certainly have the last word if you wish, I will beg off this thread.

[Metatemujin]

So I have been reading the forum. Thanks for all the great input. I am about to land in Medellin and will definitely write a thorough field report when I am done. I have a good number of contacts on FB, but I have also tried my hand at tinder and bumble. I am have 40+ matches of girls I find attractive on tinder and around 10 on bumble. Anyone has experience on how many of them are a scam? What can I do to minimize potential harm on first meet? How many of these matches are looking for compensation and how many are just regular tinder girls? I am in my mid 30's and probably a 6 out of 10 on the attractive scale and on the smaller side.

I was thinking of meeting for drinks at a public place and getting a feel for the girls then and if they pass the "vibe check" I would invite them back to my hotel (would start at hotel first for safety). I will be in Medellin for one month.

[JjBee62]

So I'm watching an episode of Law & Order Criminal Intent and Goren goes to this NYC establishment where you pay to dance and / or drink with good looking women. I guess it existed in the past https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_dancer and it was big in the US at one time 1920's, 1930's until they got their panties in a bunch. It seems like since Colombia doesn't have the massage parlors of Thailand and lots of people needing money that clubs like that would be something that could exist here. Are there any out there already? I've never seen mention of them, although I have seen mention of swingers which is something I'm interested in mainly for the gangbang aspect that's kind of died out around Tampa from what it was in the glory days but that's another story.

So do any pay to dance with a hottie type of places exist here or anyplace else in the world?

There's a bunch of bars in El Centro where girls wait for guys to buy drinks for them. I'm sure you could convince some to dance with you. Or you can go to practically any nightclub and if you're a good dancer, you'll have all the dancing you want for free.

Colombia has casas. It's the Spirit Air of the Thai massage parlors. They take out all the frills and just get down to business.

I never knew anyplace had gangbang glory days. Glory hole glory days maybe.

[JjBee62]

Bro,

She's a solid 5. Is this what we are doing here? Lmaoooooooo the streets of parque Lleras has better looking girls. I wouldn't even offer her 100 k. I know everyone has different taste but this is the reason 4&5 are demanding outrageous prices because you guys are treating them like 9&10's. For reference this is an 8.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZo_M6rL...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I'll play. Is your solid 8 available for P4P and if so at what price?

Because, unless she's available at a price someone is willing to pay, then for the purpose of the forum she's a 0.

[Mr Enternational]

6 at best, Imo, lol. Rating scale means nothing, but for the individual. Geez.

Adjustable 6 at that. I am still waiting for someone to show these 8's, 9's, and whatever the hell else in a non-glamourshot picture with no makeup. I need to see how a chick looks when she is around the house scrubbing the toilet or outside flagging down a taxi, not when she is trying to attract attention and lure men on the internet.

[Surfer500]

A lot of people talk like it's their free choice what they will or won't pay, which may be true, but a lot of guys operate under financial constraints or a "budget". This can indirectly shape their tastes for certain types of girls and directly effect the market in which they operate, SA, FB, casas, Ground Zero, etc.

Imagine guy's that don't have any financial constraints or a budget, meaning they can afford to partake in their mongering venues as much as they want, in this situation, the real constraint becomes how many loads a guy is capable of blowing within hours.

I know guys, especially those who are older, who do not recharge as quickly who will at times go with a girl, and purposely hold back and save their load for another girl the same day or within hours.

Imagine your in a bar / club, or on the street, you've just finished with someone, and immediately afterwards in the same venue you see something that really get's your attention, but you know if you go with her, you won't finish as just not enough time has elapsed since the last one.

You talk about a frustrating situation, and truly a constraint, this is it, at least for me.

[Mr Enternational]

What do you think will happen if suddenly one of the high priced girls stops getting offers (for any reason, it doesn't matter)? She will lower her price due to decreased demand. To make some money is better than making no money.

Maybe that is what you think will happen, but in Latin America everyone knows that the price will be raised to make up for the lost demand. To make more off 1 person is better than making less off a few people.

[Osteoknot]

A lot of people talk like it's their free choice what they will or won't pay, which may be true, but a lot of guys operate under financial constraints or a "budget". This can indirectly shape their tastes for certain types of girls and directly effect the market in which they operate, SA, FB, casas, Ground Zero, etc.

Besides payment being irrelevant to setting the price in a free market, stating what anyone else pays is "right or wrong" could be that person projecting his own financial situation into the mix. For enough guys, whether they pay 30.000 or 100.000 or 250.000 or even a million may not be a key factor, although almost everyone appreciates a value.

I have a few girls in my line up who were either new or fresh to the game and I am sure they would be some guys 9 or 10, but they basically don't know it yet or they don't understand the market. One girl in particular, Purrfekt Paisa went from 70 mil sessions in my hotel room, to 2 million peso outings on a yacht with someone else over the period of several months. She would still come back to me, at her new mark-up price of 150 mil, jeje, although I recently lost track of her.

I guess that has sort of been my strategy, finding these diamonds in the rough, and then their friends, and friends of friends, while keeping their prices reasonable for my comfort level.

I found a few old fotos of Purrfekt Paisa. Physically, she was the total package. She is tall. She had a sweet enough personality, and a simple mind that was sufficiently pliable.

[Osteoknot]

that's kind of died out around Tampa from what it was in the glory days but that's another story.

So do any pay to dance with a hottie type of places exist here or anyplace else in the world?

Curious, when do you consider the "glory days" of Tampa to be?

A lot of my girls, I don't know, about half, start out our sessions dancing nude. I realize that is not what you were talking about but I agree that watching a naked pretty girl doing a sexy dance is a good way to get the juices flowing.

[Balboa]

All due respect, but there are lots of guys, myself included, who have interactions with street girls that involve much more than just a release.

And what you didn't mention are the casa's, which truly fit the definition of a venue for guys that want a release as they are much more impersonal than what can transpire in the street scene.

I believe there are other members here familiar with the street scene who can corroborate what I am saying.

No doubt about it.

One of the reasons I dig the street scene is the ability to chat, and get to know a bit.

[Balboa]

Bro,

She's a solid 5. Is this what we are doing here? Lmaoooooooo the streets of parque Lleras has better looking girls. I wouldn't even offer her 100 k. I know everyone has different taste but this is the reason 4&5 are demanding outrageous prices because you guys are treating them like 9&10's. For reference this is an 8.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZo_M6rL...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

6 at best, Imo, lol.

Rating scale means nothing, but for the individual. Geez.

[Turgid]

....If you ask 1000 men to rate her on 1 to 10 scale, I can pretty much guarantee her average score will not be lower than 7.

If you ask 1000 men to rate her on a scale from 1 to 10 you will get ratings ranging from 1 to 10.

[Osteoknot]

If enough people pay fast and easy, the market will obviously adjust higher

Partly true, except payment is irrelevant to price.

If by "enough people" you mean more mongers enter the market (increased demand) while the number of wet holes remains constant, then indeed price will go up overall, independent of what people pay. That is what is shown in the Supply & Demand graph I sketched.

However, there is no evidence of a shortage of supply of wet holes in Colombia. The mongering market here has proven to be very elastic over time (there's a pun in there somewhere), especially when you remember to correct for inflation.

If you are talking about a micro-market, such as competition for once specific chica, then her price can be sensitive to changes in small numbers of mongers seeking her attention (changes in demand).

What do you think will happen if suddenly one of the high priced girls stops getting offers (for any reason, it doesn't matter)? She will lower her price due to decreased demand. To make some money is better than making no money. Price is an independent variable. This sounds counter-intuitive to most, but it has been proven true in every free market in the world for over 100 years.

Mongers get emotional about this topic because they think someone else's payment is spoiling their fun. First of all, money and emotion do not mix well. Gambling, sex, impulse buying, keeping up with the Joneses, you name it.

I will always stand up for this principle because it is absolutely wrong to blame what others pay as having any effect on what you pay. If you want to keep the prices down, then discourage other mongers from coming here in the first place. I have suggested this many times. That keeps demand and pricing stable, assuming the supply of wet holes is elastic (there's that pun we were looking for), which a lot of us believe it to be.

If price goes up, one of two things happened. Demand (number of mongers) went up, while the supply of wet holes stayed the same, went down, or did not increase enough to meet the new demand. Or supply (number of wet holes went down) went down without a corresponding decrease in demand.

Once a monger has arrived into the market, it's too late to control price. That ship has sailed, so to speak. Supply and demand will always reach an equilibrium point in any free market. The number of mongerers is what counts in our market, not what they pay. Of course, supply, or the number of wet holes matters too, but I believe this is one of the most elastic markets out there, and supply seems to meet demand almost purrfektly, although that point is debatable.

Nobody is ruining anything for paying what they are comfortable paying. Lets all relax a little.