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  1. #15183

    Comparing Scandallo to Cafe Photo (new) and other high end boates

    During the last 18 months, I've been to the new Cafe Photo (at 1515) about 5 x and Scandallo about 25 x.

    Although both clubs aim to attract the high end clientele, they are quite different. The new Cafe Photo is renovated nicely, but much smaller than Scandallo. You can sit in the main lounge and see almost everyone, except those in the second floor (restaurant and smoking area). As it's a smaller venue, there are a lot less girls (30-50 in the nights I visited).

    There were 2 x at Cafe Photo that I left empty handed and went to Bomboa or Scandallo. 2 x I settled for a girl I would have passed on in Scandallo. That is not to say there wasn't a girl I was interested in during each of those visits, but usually they were with a guy and unavailable. There has never been a visit to Scandallo that I didn't find a girl that was both available and I was attracted to.

    The admission at Cafe Photo is 350, which is similar to Scandallo at 400 after 7 pm. Don't think they have an early bird rate like Scandallo as they aren't open during the daytime.

    Drink amd food prices are similar. I didn't eat at Cafe Photo, so can't comment on food quality.

    Cafe Photo also does not have an adjacent hotel, which I consider a plus. There is no exit fee to take a girl out of the club. If you want an easy adjacent in-house 1 HR session, that can be problematic.

    For me, Scandallo is so much better in almost every way (except the Saida fee) that I would only consider Cafe Photo or other over Scandallo, if a friend really really want to check it out.

    I'll do a summary of the 5 higher end boates I have been to in SP (Ranked in my order of preference).

    1) Scandallo.

    Admission:. 200 before 7 pm, 400 after 7 pm.

    Space:. Large and separated in zones (restaurant & long bar, outdoor patio & club / Disco).

    Decoration:. High end chique.

    No. Of Girls: 40-75 before 7 pm, 150+ after 7 pm and 200+ after 10:30-11:00 pm, especially from Tues to Thursday. A little slower on Friday, but still good.

    Quality of the talent:. Lots of 7's and 8's and more than enough 8. 5's to 9. 5's to satisfy any taste. The high number and variety of hot girls means I've never left the club empty handed.

    Rating: 9. 5 out of 10.

    Special note:. Can be enter before 7 pm and return later in the evening and avoid admission.

    2) Connection.

    Admission:. 50 before 7 pm and 100 after 7 pm.

    Space:. Decent size. Like a long rectangular field. The disco and bar in the front, and restaurant and smoking area in the back.

    Decoration:. Strip club / Disco vibe.

    No. Of Girls:. 40-60 depending on the day.

    Quality of the talent:. More of the girls have a PSE / slutty look and feel. Talent can be hit or miss depending on the day. I found the talent better in early 2021, as it was the main club to defy curfew so other girls from Scandallo would go there after 9 pm. Now those girls don't need to.

    Rating: 8 out of 10. Mostly due to the cheaper admission and girl prices.

    Special Note:. Location is farthest from main tourist / business area of SP among clubs listed.

    3) Cafe Photo.

    Admission: 350.

    Space:. Decent size. Main lounge / disco area in one open space. Easy to scope out the talent in one convenience spot.

    Decoration:. High-end disco / club.

    No. Of Girls:. 30-50.

    Quality of the talent: slightly less in quality than Scandallo. That combined with a lot less in quantity will result in potentially not finding what you want available.

    Rating:. 8 out of 10.

    Special Note:. In the heart of SP so convenient to most places.

    4) Bomboa.

    Admission: 250.

    Space:. Smaller and more intimate.

    Decoration:. Old school traditional bar / restaurant with a small stage. More seating upstairs, but mostly for smoking and for tranquility.

    No. Of Girls:. 40-60.

    Quality of the talent:. I found the talent to be somewhere in the middle between connections and Cafe photo. As this place caters more to locals the pricing is also better.

    Rating: 7. 5 out of 10.

    Special Note:. In the heart of SP so convenient to most places.

    5) Lotus Club.

    Admission: 300+.

    Space:. Large, high ceilings and renovated really nicely.

    Decoration:. Super new and trendy.

    No. Of Girls:. 5 to 10.

    Quality of the talent: Inconclusive. The two times that I came by they offered a show me around before charging me admission as there were very few girls on premises. I basically got a tour of the place and left to go to Bomboa, which is a 3-4 min walk away.

    I have seen the recent Instagram stories and it seems like they got a lot more people there now so they're doing a better job promoting the place. I might give it another shot checking it out when I return to SP.

    Rating:. Inconclusive.

  2. #15182

    What about Scandallo vs Bomboa?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    The old Cafe Photo (now the Lotus Club) was a must-do club for me (have not been to the new location yet). The old location is where I found this one: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2720488. All that said, there is no substitute for Scandallo. It's a unique destination that virtually no other place in the world can match for the kind of facilities and atmosphere there. So to answer the last of your questions posed in a word (is Cafe Photo basically the same). No! At least not at the old site it isn't, which again is now known as the Lotus Club.
    Thanks much for the info. Seems like the extra distance on the car ride may be worth it. What about Bomboa vs Scandallo? Same as Lotus Club?

  3. #15181

    Cafe Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by MagnumPI  [View Original Post]
    I'm curious is anyone has an opinion about the quality of the experience of Scandallo vs Cafe Photo. I have read a lot of posts from fellow mongers raving about Scandallo, but I haven't seen much on Cafe Photo. I'll be traveling next week to So Paulo, and my hotel is roughly 10 min from Cafe Photo while Scandallo is 40 min away. Is it worth the extra 30 min drive to get to Scandallo or is Cafe Photo basically the same?
    The old Cafe Photo (now the Lotus Club) was a must-do club for me (have not been to the new location yet). The old location is where I found this one: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2720488. All that said, there is no substitute for Scandallo. It's a unique destination that virtually no other place in the world can match for the kind of facilities and atmosphere there. So to answer the last of your questions posed in a word (is Cafe Photo basically the same). No! At least not at the old site it isn't, which again is now known as the Lotus Club.

  4. #15180
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Bomboa is walking distance to Cafe Photo. The Cafe Photo reviews here match my experience with more than 1 visit. You can read the review to decide.
    Sorry, I messed up. I was talking about the old Cafe Photo being near Bomboa. I did went to new Cafe Photo on their opening night.

  5. #15179

    Definitions

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    As a courtesy to your reply, for me, I will make consistent choice that maintains my financial freedom that basically starts with not spending more than I earned and not because I can afford it or not.
    According to my own way of thinking, the two go together. That is, if one consistently spends more than they earn, then by definition they can't afford what they're spending on.

  6. #15178
    Quote Originally Posted by Fewdie  [View Original Post]
    No....
    Thanks for making it clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fewdie  [View Original Post]
    ...I can find someone else at the same quality / level / whatever or even better who would agree. ....
    Agreed.

  7. #15177
    Quote Originally Posted by MagnumPI  [View Original Post]
    I'm curious is anyone has an opinion about the quality of the experience of Scandallo vs Cafe Photo. I have read a lot of posts from fellow mongers raving about Scandallo, but I haven't seen much on Cafe Photo. I'll be traveling next week to So Paulo, and my hotel is roughly 10 min from Cafe Photo while Scandallo is 40 min away. Is it worth the extra 30 min drive to get to Scandallo or is Cafe Photo basically the same?
    Bomboa is walking distance to Cafe Photo. The Cafe Photo reviews here match my experience with more than 1 visit. You can read the review to decide.

  8. #15176

    Thanks for the reply

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Again, you seem to be missing my point there, which was a narrow one. Let me say it another way. That part of what I wrote was really only mainly an aside about how the value that people place on a good or service can change because of an experience they had. ...
    I think I understand you. The first time that I went to Scandallo, I was prepared to splurge because it was a brand new experience. Since I never find anything that matched my expectation from reading the forum, the value has decreased. In my response to Bearsi, I wasn't saying he was wrong, I just suggested based on my understanding what maybe a better analogy.

    This is a description about a woman in El Centro in Medellin that a session costs no more than $10.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamWl  [View Original Post]
    I stumbled upon that girl my first week on the ground, stunning indeed, those puppy eyes made me stop dead in my tracks. ...
    I was there. LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    ...Met up with Pollo Negro and Nounce at the fountain in front of the Vera Cruz Church....
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    ...But to answer your question, yes! As long as I can afford to pay for First Class of Business Class and still monger where I want to for as much and as long as I want to then yes...
    That is the condition I want to know as in my original post mentioned. As a courtesy to your reply, for me, I will make consistent choice that maintains my financial freedom that basically starts with not spending more than I earned and not because I can afford it or not.

  9. #15175
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Damn that's insane bro! I used to go to Costa Rica and slam fuck 25 girls in 10 days (with almost no repeats and "nut"every single time). And I thought that was something LOL!
    I was 20-something and was window shopping for the first time. Now I think 1-2 shots and a nice dinner is just fine.

  10. #15174

    Scandallo vs Cafe Photo

    I'm curious is anyone has an opinion about the quality of the experience of Scandallo vs Cafe Photo. I have read a lot of posts from fellow mongers raving about Scandallo, but I haven't seen much on Cafe Photo. I'll be traveling next week to So Paulo, and my hotel is roughly 10 min from Cafe Photo while Scandallo is 40 min away. Is it worth the extra 30 min drive to get to Scandallo or is Cafe Photo basically the same?

  11. #15173

    Scandallo vs Cafe Photo

    Am curious if anyone has an opinion on the quality of the experience of Cafe Photo vs Scandallo. I'm traveling to São Paulo next week, and my hotel is much closer to Cafe Photo. When I read the posts from fellow mongers, all I see are references to how great Scandallo is, so I'm super intrigued. But, Cafe Photo is roughly 10 min drive from my hotel while Scandallo is 40 min. Is it worth it to go Scandallo, or should I just go to Cafe Photo?

  12. #15172

    Insane!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    Luckily those days are over when I first time went to Amsterdam and fucked 21 girls during 2,5 days.
    Damn that's insane bro! I used to go to Costa Rica and slam fuck 25 girls in 10 days (with almost no repeats and "nut"every single time). And I thought that was something LOL!

  13. #15171
    Quote Originally Posted by HarvestBoi  [View Original Post]
    I just checked. Prices from both US coasts to Sampa are about 1200 for coach, 3500 for business and 8-12 k for first. The difference is a lotta hours with a Scandallo garota LOL.
    Same thing happening with the flights from Europe. I usually have paid between $2000 and $2500 and now the same tickets cost $3500. The prices have gone up with the fuel prices and travel industry recovering from Covid. It doesn't mean I have to say no to a Scandallo girl if I like her. Luckily those days are over when I first time went to Amsterdam and fucked 21 girls during 2,5 days.

  14. #15170
    Quote Originally Posted by NapataJohn  [View Original Post]
    Anyone here taken a Scandallo girl for a weekend trip to Santos? Is 3000 BRL a good price for the weekend?
    Not much nice beaches in Santos. In any city in BR you will find working girls, why bring sand to the beach? Only if the price is right, multi days trip I offer no more than 1 k per day. If it is an exotic destination should be almost free LOL.

  15. #15169

    Flight Miles

    Quote Originally Posted by HarvestBoi  [View Original Post]
    I just checked. Prices from both US coasts to Sampa are about 1200 for coach, 3500 for business and 8-12 k for first. The difference is a lotta hours with a Scandallo garota LOL. Reminds me of a time where I had a business colleague who would boast that he never flew coach if he had to "spend the night on the plane". Later we were flying out of BsAs and sure enough, he's in coach. What's the deal I asked. He said, Did you see the crazy prices for First? I asked him how much money you have to have so that the fare difference is immaterial. " About 10 % more than you've got".
    I just found round trip flights to GRU for 155,000 miles on United. Not too long ago it was just 120,000 miles. And it was even less than that during the worst of the pandemic. Got it covered easy either way hehehe! For my next upcoming long flight (it's not to Brazil) I found First Class seats on Delta for only 90,000 miles! Damn straight I booked that flight post haste months and months ago with Delta SkyMiles! Try to do it now and they would want over twice as much in miles (Delta is the worst for this kind of gouging sometimes)! It pays to look around and book early. It really, really does!

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